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(Time)   Egyptian court bans the Muslim Brotherhood. WELL THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THAT   (world.time.com) divider line 90
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2013-09-24 12:26:06 AM
Islam = terrorism. Nuff said.
 
2013-09-24 12:26:40 AM
Thus solving the problem once and for all.

ONCE AND FOR ALL.
 
2013-09-24 12:27:22 AM
And who says there aren't any simple answers for intensely complicated problems?
 
2013-09-24 12:27:59 AM
Thank God, we can finally return to a more peaceful era in Egypt, where religious and political dissents were suppressed by a military regime.

For freedom and stuff.
 
2013-09-24 12:28:44 AM
emotivestorytelling.com
 
2013-09-24 12:31:12 AM

Acidicnads: Islam = terrorism. Nuff said.


Muslim = Obama
Brother = Definitely Obama
Hood = Trayvon = Close Enough

/thanks Obama
 
2013-09-24 12:32:20 AM
Christianity = Terrorism, but in the good guys uniform of FREEDOM and apple pie, with a hint of do as we say and not as we do.

/Hundreds of years of crusades to the Middle East and still no damn Holy Grail.
 
2013-09-24 12:37:33 AM
CRIMINALS WILL STILL HAVE BROTHERHOODS ON THE STREETS! WHY DOES EGYPT NOT WANT HONEST HARD WORKING SECOND AMMENDENTERS TO...wait, what?
 
2013-09-24 12:39:24 AM

sheep snorter: Christianity = Terrorism, but in the good guys uniform of FREEDOM and apple pie, with a hint of do as we say and not as we do.

/Hundreds of years of crusades to the Middle East and still no damn Holy Grail.


That's because the Holy Grail is in England. Everybody knows that.


i227.photobucket.com

"I told him we already got one!"
 
2013-09-24 12:42:38 AM
I think this is a good decision.  Hopefully Egypt can have a democratic election again soon, but with the Muslim Brotherhood around to try to put another Islamic fundamentalist on the ticket, they could have ended up with just another Morsi.

Hopefully the military doesn't eliminate any charitable operations they have, but rather just makes sure that the mosques running those programs aren't pushing Muslim Brotherhood propaganda while doing so.  A full investigation of their finances makes a lot of sense, the people should know if there are ties to terrorism.

Most of Egypt is Muslim, but most aren't hardliners.  This isn't the military trying to punish Muslims, as I'd assume many of the members themselves are members of that religion.  This is just a clear signal that the future of Egypt will be secular, and that Islamic extremists have no future in that.
 
2013-09-24 12:49:19 AM
Yay! World peace achieved!
 
2013-09-24 12:50:23 AM

D-Liver: Acidicnads: Islam = terrorism. Nuff said.

Muslim = Obama
Brother = Definitely Obama
Hood = Trayvon = Close Enough

/thanks Obama


i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-24 12:50:26 AM
Again? Oh boy. Well, that was a nice revolution.
 
2013-09-24 12:52:02 AM
Coming tommorow to egypt : The muslim brotherhood 2. But, it's from canada.. you've probably never heard of it.
 
2013-09-24 12:52:45 AM
And that's the end of that chatper.

*tosses scarf over shoulder*
 
2013-09-24 12:54:48 AM
Well hopefully considering it's in addition to killing a bunch of them, arresting their leaders and seizing all of their property and money. Not an especially American way of doing things to be sure. YET.
 
2013-09-24 12:56:53 AM
What could possibly go wrong?
 
2013-09-24 12:57:10 AM
To be fair I think this is exactly what the Muslim world needs to be doing to convince the West they're not a horde of frothing, bestial, desert death-cultists who swear allegiance to an absentee deity that muttered a how-to manual on rape, murder and oppression to some troglodyte in a sandstorm.
 
2013-09-24 12:57:15 AM

Danger Avoid Death: sheep snorter: Christianity = Terrorism, but in the good guys uniform of FREEDOM and apple pie, with a hint of do as we say and not as we do.

/Hundreds of years of crusades to the Middle East and still no damn Holy Grail.

That's because the Holy Grail is in England. Everybody knows that.


[i227.photobucket.com image 636x348]

"I told him we already got one!"


No no, France. Remember, the French got to Castle Aargh before King Arthur made it across the Bridge of Death.
 
2013-09-24 12:57:21 AM

TuteTibiImperes: I think this is a good decision.  Hopefully Egypt can have a democratic election again soon, but with the Muslim Brotherhood around to try to put another Islamic fundamentalist on the ticket, they could have ended up with just another Morsi.


There will be no democratic elections in Egypt until the military is unable or unwilling to depose an elected ruler simply because they don't like what they're doing to the military's bottom line. Do I support the Muslim Brotherhood? No, of course not. But there should be constitutional protections inherent in the system that prevent someone from trying to turn Egypt into a theocratic dictatorship that quashes all criticism of its actions.

It will never be a democracy until the military is forced to divest its fingers from all the economic pies it has placed them in. Otherwise we're simply going to have to live with a modern day Praetorian Guard determining the future of a country for purely selfish reasons.
 
2013-09-24 12:58:18 AM

Summoner101: And that's the end of that chatper.

*tosses scarf over shoulder*


*gets caught in ceiling fan; barflies laugh*
 
2013-09-24 01:03:46 AM
I just realized that the Egyptian military deposed their Muslim usurper President and then banned his political party...
 
2013-09-24 01:04:29 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: TuteTibiImperes: I think this is a good decision.  Hopefully Egypt can have a democratic election again soon, but with the Muslim Brotherhood around to try to put another Islamic fundamentalist on the ticket, they could have ended up with just another Morsi.

There will be no democratic elections in Egypt until the military is unable or unwilling to depose an elected ruler simply because they don't like what they're doing to the military's bottom line. Do I support the Muslim Brotherhood? No, of course not. But there should be constitutional protections inherent in the system that prevent someone from trying to turn Egypt into a theocratic dictatorship that quashes all criticism of its actions.

It will never be a democracy until the military is forced to divest its fingers from all the economic pies it has placed them in. Otherwise we're simply going to have to live with a modern day Praetorian Guard determining the future of a country for purely selfish reasons.


I agree, but I support the way the military handled Morsi.  Egypt is still trying to get the hang of Democracy, and there will be some growing pains.  As soon as he was in office Morsi started setting himself up as a ruler-for-life, disbanding courts, annulled amendments limiting his power, pushed for a constitution based on sharia law, and spent more time dealing with pushing an Islamic agenda than tending to the county's welfare, leading to food shortages and economic trouble.  Something had to be done, and since Morsi showed little respect for the legal systems in place to begin with, the military were the right ones to do it.

Hopefully a strong constitution can be written before the next president of Egypt is elected, and as long as the military limits themselves to only intervening if the people's choice starts to violate that, they'll be fine.
 
2013-09-24 01:06:51 AM
Wait until one of the Muslim Brotherhood blows up an important ancient Egyptian monument in the name of Islam. One thing I learned about Eqyptians when I visited years ago is that they are first Eqyptians before they are Muslims, and those monuments mean everything to them.
 
2013-09-24 01:08:07 AM
Sounds like a page from the American History of the Communist crackdown of the 50's, It was pretty much made illegal to be a communist, hauled in front of Congress, black balled in your trade, vilified in the media and ostracized in your community.  On the bright side, if Egypt sticks with the American Historic path, in 20 years the Muslim brotherhood will be allowed to run a "Gus Hall" for President.
 
2013-09-24 01:12:17 AM

Danger Avoid Death: sheep snorter: Christianity = Terrorism, but in the good guys uniform of FREEDOM and apple pie, with a hint of do as we say and not as we do.

/Hundreds of years of crusades to the Middle East and still no damn Holy Grail.

That's because the Holy Grail is in England. Everybody knows that.


[i227.photobucket.com image 636x348]

"I told him we already got one!"


Are you sure he's got one?
 
2013-09-24 01:12:35 AM

sheep snorter: Christianity = Terrorism, but in the good guys uniform of FREEDOM and apple pie, with a hint of do as we say and not as we do.

/Hundreds of years of crusades to the Middle East and still no damn Holy Grail.


Crusades? You mean those things that were a direct response to the non-stop wars of aggression directed at Christian countries (really all non-Muslim countries) by Muslim political entities since the dawn of their religion, including ones that were started at the behest of the very 'prophet' who founded it? Yeah, those were definitely unfair.
 
2013-09-24 01:13:46 AM
Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque:
It will never be a democracy until the military is forced to divest its fingers from all the economic pies it has placed them in. Otherwise we're simply going to have to live with a modern day Praetorian Guard determining the future of a country for purely selfish reasons.

Could we get that stateside as well please? For great justice?
 
2013-09-24 01:14:35 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Hopefully a strong constitution can be written before the next president of Egypt is elected, and as long as the military limits themselves to only intervening if the people's choice starts to violate that, they'll be fine.


My worry is that the military won't ever agree or adhere to that. The Egyptian military, aside from all the hotels and shoe factories it owns, gets a sizable stipend from the United States to both not muck around with Israel and to keep the Suez flowing. These payments are given under the guise of foreign aid and whatnot, but they're basically bribes to prevent war with Israel and not interfere with international trade. The military holds all of the cards in Egypt, and this is the second ruler in a row in which they have intervened.

Sure, the two rulers they were deposed were objectively bad, but I'm sensing a pattern here that I'm sure other generals within the military regime have noticed also.
 
2013-09-24 01:17:44 AM

Harry_Seldon: Wait until one of the Muslim Brotherhood blows up an important ancient Egyptian monument in the name of Islam. One thing I learned about Eqyptians when I visited years ago is that they are first Eqyptians before they are Muslims, and those monuments mean everything to them.


National identity is the key to democratic reform in Islamic states.   If your tribe is more important to you than your country, then you are far more likely to vote for someone that will benefit your tribe, rather than your country.

It's why American politics has been going backwards for 35 years, too.
 
2013-09-24 01:19:00 AM
So is it safe to see the Eiffel Tower again?
 
2013-09-24 01:20:56 AM

AbuHashish: So is it safe to see the Eiffel Tower again?


 Only if you don't mind being hassled by Gypsies while waiting in line.
 
2013-09-24 01:27:27 AM
I like subby's optimism. I got a good feeling about this event. I see nothing bad happening in the next 5 years.
 
2013-09-24 01:28:38 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: AbuHashish: So is it safe to see the Eiffel Tower again?

 Only if you don't mind being hassled by Gypsies while waiting in line.


There's always the one in Vegas. If you don't mind being hassled by Gypsies passing out flyers while waiting in line.
 
2013-09-24 01:37:33 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: AbuHashish: So is it safe to see the Eiffel Tower again?

 Only if you don't mind being hassled by Gypsies while waiting in line.


It's not gypsies, it's Bangladeshis. You always know when the French police are coming because the guys peddling the keychains suddenly all start running.
 
2013-09-24 01:44:02 AM

Acidicnads: Islam = terrorism. Nuff said.


Well, then...thanks for shutting up.
 
2013-09-24 01:53:07 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Thank God, we can finally return to a more peaceful era in Egypt, where religious and political dissents were suppressed by a military regime.

For freedom and stuff.


For oil and gas. And an open Suez.
 
2013-09-24 01:55:23 AM
The Politics tab likes the smell of its own farts. At times this is amusing. At times this is irritating.
Right now I don't care.

Lionel Mandrake: Acidicnads: Islam = terrorism. Nuff said.

Well, then...thanks for shutting up.


It's going well.
 
2013-09-24 02:05:30 AM

Rashnu: I just realized that the Egyptian military deposed their Muslim usurper President and then banned his political party...


Now realize that the Egyptian courts and the Egyptian military are both still controlled by their first deposed leader, Mubarak.

Basically, what happened is they deposed Mubarak, and then held democratic elections.

Then all the parts of the state that Mubarak still controlled decided they didn't like the results of that election.

So the parts of Egypt still controlled by Mubarak deposed the elected leader and declared their political party illegal.

They also released Mubarak from prison.

You can see how terribly democratic this all is.
 
2013-09-24 02:10:36 AM
The middle east is having something like their 30 years' war right now. Egypt, Syria, all over it comes down to the fact that they're going to have to figure out what place religion has in their society in modern times in relation to non-religious values, and Sunni vs Shia vs everyone else.

It's a war about religion, who believes what, and what society should reflect of religious teachings. It's gradually getting bigger and badder, and gradually it's becoming clear that this is not something that can be resolved by dragging in outsiders to act as the bad guys so that fundamentalists can win - simply because the Great Satan is sick of playing that role and is more than willing to just let them kill each other at this point. The gambit of calling in the US to play the bad guy role ultimately succeeded tactically in that Afghanistan and Pakistan have become a huge sandpit of failure for the US, but failed strategically in that the US doesn't really have the energy left to keep it up in Syria or Egypt (where the US actually helped the Muslim Brotherhood gain power before they farked the pooch). Now it becomes clear that it's not "Muslim vs Crusader US" but "Muslim vs Muslim" and "Muslim vs Secularist", and in that scenario the fundamentalists are much less popular.

So they will have to fight it out for themselves. Good luck to anyone over there. It's not finished by a long run.
 
2013-09-24 02:12:02 AM

BullBearMS: Rashnu: I just realized that the Egyptian military deposed their Muslim usurper President and then banned his political party...

Now realize that the Egyptian courts and the Egyptian military are both still controlled by their first deposed leader, Mubarak.

Basically, what happened is they deposed Mubarak, and then held democratic elections.

Then all the parts of the state that Mubarak still controlled decided they didn't like the results of that election.

So the parts of Egypt still controlled by Mubarak deposed the elected leader and declared their political party illegal.

They also released Mubarak from prison.

You can see how terribly democratic this all is.


Morsi disbanding the courts and wiping away the checks and balances against his own power wasn't democratic either.

Given the option between an Islamic extremist and a mostly secular military leading the country, it's in both the people of Egypt's and our own best interests for the military to have power.
 
2013-09-24 02:19:16 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Morsi disbanding the courts and wiping away the checks and balances against his own power wasn't democratic either.


Whose courts?

Courts whose judges were all appointed by Mubarak which were not set up under the auspices of the new Egyptian Constitution?

The courts that declared the results of the elections invalid anywhere that the Egyptian Brotherhood won seats in the new Parliament?

The courts that freed Mubarak?

I suppose you would be just fine with the Tea Party deposing Obama?
 
2013-09-24 02:23:58 AM

TuteTibiImperes: it's in both the people of Egypt's and our own best interests for the military to have power.


The United States certainly prefers vicious thugs like Mubarak who was known throughout the region for torturing and murdering his own people.

As long as he obeys our orders.

Hell, Secretary of State Clinton said he was "like family".

Our current idiot Sec State claimed that deposing a democratically elected leader was "restoring democracy".
 
2013-09-24 02:25:54 AM
The problem with elections is sometime you don't like the results you get, but you've let the cat out of the bag now.  You can outlaw a party but that isn't going to change the people you elect.  In America we have elected officials who give speeches about separation of church and state.  It doesn't mean they don't act as if there is no separation.
 
2013-09-24 02:32:32 AM
The Muslim Brotherhood is an ironic name for a violent group like that.
 
2013-09-24 02:38:57 AM
There elected president did say "suck it" to the constitution. What more do you need?
 
2013-09-24 02:42:43 AM

BullBearMS: TuteTibiImperes: Morsi disbanding the courts and wiping away the checks and balances against his own power wasn't democratic either.

Whose courts?

Courts whose judges were all appointed by Mubarak which were not set up under the auspices of the new Egyptian Constitution?

The courts that declared the results of the elections invalid anywhere that the Egyptian Brotherhood won seats in the new Parliament?

The courts that freed Mubarak?


The problem with the Mubarak regime was Mubarak.  Any judges or other officials he appointed had a legal right to be there until they were replaced in their own elections.  They also acted as a counter to Mosni who wanted to become Mubarak 2 Islamist Boogaloo.

If Morsi had stayed in power there would have been another revolution, possibly even an Egyptian civil war.  He was messing with tourism, infrastructure, trade, and logistics.  The Egyptian economy was falling, food wasn't getting to markets, and the people were getting very upset.  The military stepping in saved Egypt from becoming Libya or Syria on a larger scale.

BullBearMS: TuteTibiImperes: it's in both the people of Egypt's and our own best interests for the military to have power.

The United States certainly prefers vicious thugs like Mubarak who was known throughout the region for torturing and murdering his own people.

As long as he obeys our orders.

Hell, Secretary of State Clinton said he was "like family".

Our current idiot Sec State claimed that deposing a democratically elected leader was "restoring democracy".


Maybe not restoring democracy, but it does set the stage for a second chance at getting democracy right.  It was also the right thing to do as allowing a man who is abusing his office and trying to become a dictator to continue to do so is worse than putting the country back under secular military rule.

From our perspective of course the most important things are that the Egyptian leader keep the peace with Israel and not try to mess with the flow of oil.  For the Egyptian people it's that they make sure good gets to markets, the trains and buses run on time, tourism money keeps flowing, and their civil rights aren't destroyed by a government wishing to institute severe sharia law.

Right now the military is doing a good job of all of that.  They need to find out who is pulling the strings in the Muslim Brotherhood, - is it Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, or some other extremist organization?  Where is the money coming from?  What are their end-goals?  Hopefully they can be defunded and disbanded fairly peacefully from this point out, and once done, Egypt can draft a constitution and elect someone who will take it in the right direction as a modern secular society.
 
2013-09-24 02:45:44 AM

skinink: The Muslim Brotherhood is an ironic name for a violent group like that.


Boy Scouts of Egypt was already taken.
 
2013-09-24 02:56:08 AM
fark every religion and the fear of death it capitalizes upon.
 
2013-09-24 02:58:57 AM

Danger Avoid Death: skinink: The Muslim Brotherhood is an ironic name for a violent group like that.

Boy Scouts of Egypt was already taken.


I found it entertaining that apparently Libya has Boy Scouts.
 
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