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(Washington Post)   Now that Ted Cruz has promised to filibuster the budget bill, it has become physically impossible, according to the rules of the Senate and the law of time and space, for us to avoid a shutdown unless the House GOP caves, like, right now   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 344
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2013-09-23 08:30:05 PM  

Karac: Aristocles: That's because Pelosi told us "We have to pass the bill, so we YOU can find out what's in it," and shortly thereafter proceeded to ram it down our throats.


God, how the current crop makes me wish for the days of old; when Bevets would put in real effort, sourcing and citing cherry-picked quotes; when winterwhile would show up with his half-ounce of artistic, if bad, talent.

The new schmucks can't even figure out to to quote-mine.


So you're telling me I got ONE word wrong? And said word doesn't really change the sense of the quote?

Well, I must say, this calls for an ohsnap.jpg Well done, sir.
 
2013-09-23 08:30:27 PM  
Hmm. He's going to screw over the GOP in the races for seats in swing states for 2014.
 
2013-09-23 08:33:07 PM  

SevenizGud: LordJiro: Yes, full steam ahead. Tank the economy because the Teabaggers can't stand the thought of poor people getting healthcare.

Uhm, I was thinking more along the lines of I'll pay for my healthcare and you pay for yours, and fark you if you think I should be responsible for your oreo-guzzling ass.

And it will be better for the economy, not worse.


So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?
 
2013-09-23 08:33:11 PM  

Karac: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.

Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.

Wrong again. Polls show American do not want Obamacare defunded.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101053976

herpity dooo!

Polls show Americans do not want Obamacare defunded if it means a government shut down.

There'd be no government shut down if BOB and the dems worked in good faith.

Who is Bob?

I guess you didn't read the article did you? It says aajoorty of the American public do not want Obamacre defunded. Period. End of story. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

The percent of Americans who do not want Obamacare defunds goes from a majority to a bigger majority if it means a government shutdown.

Can you be more wrong on this issue?

On the law itself, moreover, 52 percent are opposed, vs. 42 percent in support; in 16 ABC/Post polls since August 2009, it's never received majority support. (pdf)

Read a book sometime.

So you didn't read the poll I posted that show a majority of Americans do not want Obamacare defunded?

There are lots of reasons to oppose the bill that don't fit into your insistance that it needs to be defunded. The American people have spoken and they said, "do not defund Obamacare."

I said that the majority of people don't want Obamacare, period. I didn't say anything a ...


The part I bold was in the article that the Farklib cited. The bolded part was what the Farklib "conveniently" left out when citing the link.

Brush up on your critical reading.
 
2013-09-23 08:34:34 PM  
Someone fell asleep at the wheel on their responsibility to post the image that shows the % support for the various aspects of the ACA compared to the % knowledge that it was part of the ACA.

/my google-fu is weak
 
2013-09-23 08:34:57 PM  

falcon176: is it lib in here or is it just everybody


It ain't everyone... I'm smackin down Farklib propagand left an right, but I'll save some for you should you care to partake.
 
2013-09-23 08:35:06 PM  

Dimensio: Are you saying that the GOP should "have a farking spine" and allow the government to shut down, thus damaging the United States economy, or are you saying that the GOP should "have a farking spine" and allow the United States of America to default on its financial obligations, thus damaging the global economy?


No, I am saying that a real shut-down would show that 80% of government jobs are a waste, and those resources could be better served elsewhere, causing a robust economy to develop, and leading to a better life for each and every person on the planet.
 
2013-09-23 08:35:40 PM  

SevenizGud: Dimensio: Are you saying that the GOP should "have a farking spine" and allow the government to shut down, thus damaging the United States economy, or are you saying that the GOP should "have a farking spine" and allow the United States of America to default on its financial obligations, thus damaging the global economy?

No, I am saying that a real shut-down would show that 80% of government jobs are a waste, and those resources could be better served elsewhere, causing a robust economy to develop, and leading to a better life for each and every person on the planet.


For what reason did not such a revelation occur in 1995?
 
2013-09-23 08:37:03 PM  

PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?


Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
 
2013-09-23 08:38:47 PM  

SevenizGud: LordJiro: Yes, full steam ahead. Tank the economy because the Teabaggers can't stand the thought of poor people getting healthcare.

Uhm, I was thinking more along the lines of I'll pay for my healthcare


Sorry, you've been refused coverage.

/oops
 
2013-09-23 08:39:24 PM  

SevenizGud: Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.


I always love when the trolls go with the "die in the streets" argument.
 
2013-09-23 08:39:50 PM  

SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.


You do realize that pre-ghosts Ebenezer Scrooge was not supposed to be a role model, right?
 
2013-09-23 08:39:59 PM  
If our nation ends up defaulting because of one single Teabagger, then Cruz and his Dad may as well try to sneak BACK into Cuba.
 
2013-09-23 08:39:59 PM  

Aristocles: Karac: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.

Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.

Wrong again. Polls show American do not want Obamacare defunded.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101053976

herpity dooo!

Polls show Americans do not want Obamacare defunded if it means a government shut down.

There'd be no government shut down if BOB and the dems worked in good faith.

Who is Bob?

I guess you didn't read the article did you? It says aajoorty of the American public do not want Obamacre defunded. Period. End of story. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

The percent of Americans who do not want Obamacare defunds goes from a majority to a bigger majority if it means a government shutdown.

Can you be more wrong on this issue?

On the law itself, moreover, 52 percent are opposed, vs. 42 percent in support; in 16 ABC/Post polls since August 2009, it's never received majority support. (pdf)

Read a book sometime.

So you didn't read the poll I posted that show a majority of Americans do not want Obamacare defunded?

There are lots of reasons to oppose the bill that don't fit into your insistance that it needs to be defunded. The American people have spoken and they said, "do not defund Obamacare."

I said that the majority of people don't want Obamacare, period. I didn't say anything a ...

The part I bold was in the article that the Farklib cited. The bolded part was what the Farklib "conveniently" left out when citing the link.

Brush up on your critical reading.


How do you know? You didn't even read the link that showed a majority of American are against defunding Obamacare, with or without a shutdown. When they asked about a shutdown, the majority of Americans against defunding Obamacare went even higher.

Do support defunding Obamacare even if it means going against the will of the American people?
 
2013-09-23 08:40:00 PM  
Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.

Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.

Wrong again. Polls show American do not want Obamacare defunded.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101053976

herpity dooo!

Polls show Americans do not want Obamacare defunded if it means a government shut down.

There'd be no government shut down if BOB and the dems worked in good faith.

Who is Bob?

I guess you didn't read the article did you? It says aajoorty of the American public do not want Obamacre defunded. Period. End of story. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

The percent of Americans who do not want Obamacare defunds goes from a majority to a bigger majority if it means a government shutdown.

Can you be more wrong on this issue?

On the law itself, moreover, 52 percent are opposed, vs. 42 percent in support; in 16 ABC/Post polls since August 2009, it's never received majority support. (pdf)

Read a book sometime.

So you didn't read the poll I posted that show a majority of Americans do not want Obamacare defunded?

There are lots of reasons to oppose the bill that don't fit into your insistance that it needs to be defunded. The American people have spoken and they said, "do not defund Obamacare."

I said that the majority of people don't want Obamacare, period. I didn't say anything about "defunding," that's your straw man.

So do you stand with the American public when they say, "do not defund Obamacare"?

You seem to believe that the will of the American public is important. Should Republicans go against the will of the American public and fight to defund of Obamacare or should Republicans respect the will of the American public and drop this defunding non-sense?


You cite one poll. While there are numerous polls showing that the majority of AMericans despise Obamacare. I stand with those who want to repeal and replace.

Maybe if you had more data on your side, I'd agree. But the poll sets up a false dichotomy which puts defunding in a negative light from the get go. In other words, your poll is biased.
 
2013-09-23 08:40:08 PM  

12349876: Otherwise, it's better for everyone to have skin in the game taking care of each other.


Yeah, I'm for utopia too.

Meanwhile, in the real world....
 
2013-09-23 08:42:11 PM  

Karac: Who is Bob?


farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-09-23 08:42:30 PM  

max_pooper: So do you stand with the American public when they say, "do not defund Obamacare"?

You seem to believe that the will of the American public is important. Should Republicans go against the will of the American public and fight to defund of Obamacare or should Republicans respect the will of the American public and drop this defunding non-sense?


The Real American(tm) public wants it to be stopped at any cost.  That's all that matters to him.
 
2013-09-23 08:42:45 PM  

SevenizGud: 12349876: Otherwise, it's better for everyone to have skin in the game taking care of each other.

Yeah, I'm for utopia too.

Meanwhile, in the real world....


In the real world, there was a government shutdown in 1995 and, rather than your magical government-free utopia appearing, people got PISSED.

In the real world, responsible people who work *hard* can still get shafted by sudden, unexpected medical expenses.

In the real world, you are a terrible human being. I pray that you are never put in the position that you would like to put the poor in, where they must choose between medicine and food, fast death and slow death. Even if the world might be a better place if you *were* put in such a position.
 
2013-09-23 08:43:19 PM  

LordJiro: So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?


Preferably both.
 
2013-09-23 08:43:26 PM  

Aristocles: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.

Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.

Wrong again. Polls show American do not want Obamacare defunded.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101053976

herpity dooo!

Polls show Americans do not want Obamacare defunded if it means a government shut down.

There'd be no government shut down if BOB and the dems worked in good faith.

Who is Bob?

I guess you didn't read the article did you? It says aajoorty of the American public do not want Obamacre defunded. Period. End of story. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

The percent of Americans who do not want Obamacare defunds goes from a majority to a bigger majority if it means a government shutdown.

Can you be more wrong on this issue?

On the law itself, moreover, 52 percent are opposed, vs. 42 percent in support; in 16 ABC/Post polls since August 2009, it's never received majority support. (pdf)

Read a book sometime.

So you didn't read the poll I posted that show a majority of Americans do not want Obamacare defunded?

There are lots of reasons to oppose the bill that don't fit into your insistance that it needs to be defunded. The American people have spoken and they said, "do not defund Obamacare."

I said that the majority of people don't want Obamacare, period. I didn't say anything about "defunding," that's your straw man.

So do you stand with the American public when they say, "do not defund Obamacare"?

You seem to believe that the will of the American public is important. Should Republicans go against the will of the American public and fight to defund of Obamacare or should Republicans respect the will of the American public and drop this defunding non-sense?

You cite one poll. While there are numerous polls showing that the majority of AMericans despise Obamacare. I stand with those who want to repeal and replace.

Maybe if you had more data on your side, I'd agree. But the poll sets up a false dichotomy which puts defunding in a negative light from the get go. In other words, your poll is biased.


How many of your polls show support for defunding Obamacare?

Do you support the will of the American public or do you support defunding Obamacare?
 
2013-09-23 08:44:45 PM  

LordJiro: Yes, full steam ahead. Tank the economy because the Teabaggers can't stand the thought of poor brown people getting healthcare.

 
2013-09-23 08:44:59 PM  

SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.


Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.  YELL IT LOUD IT CLEAR!  Send it into every mailbox, every inbox, every telephone line, every TV channel, every website.  We want poor kids with cancer to die!
 
2013-09-23 08:45:58 PM  

SevenizGud: LordJiro: So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?

Preferably both.


As you are already known to be a liar (based upon your previous usage of a demonstrably dishonest claim when you tried to deny climate change science), your opinion is of no value.
 
2013-09-23 08:46:14 PM  

Dimensio: SevenisGud is also saying that if a single mother (due to the death of her spouse) of two children, who works two jobs to provide for her family, is suddenly struck by a hit-and-run driver and suffers a broken leg and rendered unable to work, that she should suffer bankruptcy and the loss of her employment (due to her inability to work), and that she and her children should die destitute.


She can put the kids up for adoption, or make them a ward of the state.
 
2013-09-23 08:46:17 PM  

12349876: SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.

Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.  YELL IT LOUD IT CLEAR!  Send it into every mailbox, every inbox, every telephone line, every TV channel, every website.  We want poor kids with cancer to die!


If the poor kids were smart and bootstrappy they would have been born to rich parents.
 
2013-09-23 08:46:25 PM  

SevenizGud: 12349876: Otherwise, it's better for everyone to have skin in the game taking care of each other.

Yeah, I'm for utopia too.

Meanwhile, in the real world....


In the real world of Europe and Costa Rica and Israel and Japan and Canada etc. that's how it works.
 
2013-09-23 08:46:27 PM  

TheWhoppah: His real name is Senator Rafael Eduardo Cruz.
Rafael was born in Canada, where he is still a citizen.
His father was a Cuban and a member of the Communist party.
Rafael uses the nickname "Ted" so as not to scar the Texas Tea Party rednecks that voted for him... his voters are afraid of "Illegal Mexicans."


Didn't his mother fail to meet the residency requirements to grant him US citizenship? Shouldn't he be required to become an American Citizen?
 
2013-09-23 08:47:38 PM  

Aristocles: falcon176: is it lib in here or is it just everybody

It ain't everyone... I'm smackin down Farklib propagand left an right, but I'll save some for you should you care to partake.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-23 08:47:42 PM  

SevenizGud: Dimensio: SevenisGud is also saying that if a single mother (due to the death of her spouse) of two children, who works two jobs to provide for her family, is suddenly struck by a hit-and-run driver and suffers a broken leg and rendered unable to work, that she should suffer bankruptcy and the loss of her employment (due to her inability to work), and that she and her children should die destitute.

She can put the kids up for adoption, or make them a ward of the state.


Making the children wards of the state would place a financial burden upon the state. Allowing the children to die is a more financially viable option.
 
2013-09-23 08:48:16 PM  

12349876: SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.

Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.  YELL IT LOUD IT CLEAR!  Send it into every mailbox, every inbox, every telephone line, every TV channel, every website.  We want poor kids with cancer to die!


Why are libs so selfish? Repubs and cons... even Teabaggers... believe in charity. Only in a world envisioned by a dem or a lib would anyone want kids to die.
 
2013-09-23 08:49:09 PM  

Dimensio: As you are already known to be a liar (based upon your previous usage of a demonstrably dishonest claim when you tried to deny climate change science), your opinion is of no value.


Yeah, because nothing says "lie" like quoting the data from HADCRUT verbatim.
 
2013-09-23 08:49:56 PM  

SevenizGud: Dimensio: As you are already known to be a liar (based upon your previous usage of a demonstrably dishonest claim when you tried to deny climate change science), your opinion is of no value.

Yeah, because nothing says "lie" like quoting the data from HADCRUT verbatim.


You deliberately presented cherry-picked data to support a demonstrably dishonest conclusion. Your presentation was a lie, and you are a liar for having presented it. Due to your willingness to lie, your claims lack credibility.
 
2013-09-23 08:50:47 PM  
When did the popularity of a law become a meaningful criticism? ACA was passed by both Houses, signed by the President and upheld by the Supreme Court. It doesn't get more legitimate than that.
 
2013-09-23 08:51:53 PM  
ACA is law and Zimmerman went free

cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com
 
2013-09-23 08:52:01 PM  

Aristocles: 12349876: SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.

Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.  YELL IT LOUD IT CLEAR!  Send it into every mailbox, every inbox, every telephone line, every TV channel, every website.  We want poor kids with cancer to die!

Why are libs so selfish? Repubs and cons... even Teabaggers... believe in charity. Only in a world envisioned by a dem or a lib would anyone want kids to die.


Or in the actual real world where real life Republicans in the audience at a GOP primary debate erupted in a round of applause when Ron Paul said a person who could not afford health insurance should be left to die.
 
2013-09-23 08:52:21 PM  

12349876: Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.


Way to misrepresent what I said. I never said they should get no treatment. I said they shouldn't get treatment that they don't pay for. They should still get treatment up until the point where they run out of money.
 
2013-09-23 08:53:04 PM  

simplicimus: When did the popularity of a law become a meaningful criticism? ACA was passed by both Houses, signed by the President and upheld by the Supreme Court. It doesn't get more legitimate than that.


Tea Party activists insist that the law is Unconstitutional, therefore funding it would violate the Constitution, based upon their reasoning.
 
2013-09-23 08:53:41 PM  

SevenizGud: LordJiro: So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?

Preferably both.


Hard to believe such a douche-tastic view hasn't caught on.
 
2013-09-23 08:54:52 PM  

Dimensio: SevenizGud: LordJiro: So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?

Preferably both.

As you are already known to be a liar (based upon your previous usage of a demonstrably dishonest claim when you tried to deny climate change science), your opinion is of no value.


I guess the libtrolls are trying to derail the thread since they're getting their asses handed to them.

Read a book sometime
 
2013-09-23 08:54:55 PM  

SevenizGud: 12349876: Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.

Way to misrepresent what I said. I never said they should get no treatment. I said they shouldn't get treatment that they don't pay for. They should still get treatment up until the point where they run out of money.


Poor children will not be able to afford cancer treatment. Therefore, you desire poor children who develop cancer to die. The reasoning is sound, and you should encourage Republican legislators to openly state their intent, to clarify their message for those who may currently withhold their support due to uncertainty of whether Republicans support their pro dead poor cancer-stricken child beliefs.
 
2013-09-23 08:57:28 PM  

SevenizGud: 12349876: Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.

Way to misrepresent what I said. I never said they should get no treatment. I said they shouldn't get treatment that they don't pay for. They should still get treatment up until the point where they run out of money.


Then tell your Republicans to say, "We want kids with cancer whose parents only have $1,000 in savings to die"  Make sure all the 300+ million know it.
 
2013-09-23 08:57:29 PM  

theknuckler_33: SevenizGud: LordJiro: So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?

Preferably both.

Hard to believe such a douche-tastic view hasn't caught on.


Oh, but it has... don't the dems and libs want to steal your money when you die? I believe it's called the estate tax. Both the "preferably both" and the dem-lib view want you to die broke.
 
2013-09-23 08:57:48 PM  

Dimensio: You deliberately presented cherry-picked data to support a demonstrably dishonest conclusion


I showed the last 15 years to show no warming in the last 15 years, which, by the way, was already admitted by Von Storch and Phil Jones and every climatologist on the planet. There has been no warming in 15 years, so tough shiat, Chicken Little. Cry about it.
 
2013-09-23 08:59:06 PM  

Aristocles: 12349876: SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, TA-DA!, you don't get health care.

Just like you don't get a car if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.
Just like you don't get food if you are unwilling or unable to pay for it.

Then tell your Republican buddies to tell the world that they want poor kids with cancer to die without treatment.  YELL IT LOUD IT CLEAR!  Send it into every mailbox, every inbox, every telephone line, every TV channel, every website.  We want poor kids with cancer to die!

Why are libs so selfish? Repubs and cons... even Teabaggers... believe in charity. Only in a world envisioned by a dem or a lib would anyone want kids to die.


You're right.  Health care in the 1800s was fantastic as an all charity enterprise.
 
2013-09-23 09:00:13 PM  

SevenizGud: PanicMan: And what happens if i am unwilling or unable to pay for my health care?

Then, die quickly.


Clarified.
 
2013-09-23 09:00:15 PM  

Aristocles: theknuckler_33: SevenizGud: LordJiro: So, if someone who can't afford a hospital bill breaks their arm or gets sick, they should either go bankrupt or die, right?

Preferably both.

Hard to believe such a douche-tastic view hasn't caught on.

Oh, but it has... don't the dems and libs want to steal your money when you die? I believe it's called the estate tax. Both the "preferably both" and the dem-lib view want you to die broke.


Poor people don't pay the estate tax.
 
2013-09-23 09:01:05 PM  
So, the congress critters don't get paid, I don't get junk mail, and possibly half of my work week gets stopped (and I still get paid for it), and I still get to blame the GOP for the overall chaos it creates. Thanks Rafael.
 
2013-09-23 09:01:07 PM  

Aristocles: Oh, but it has... don't the dems and libs want to steal your money when you die?


Nope, no one wants to steal anyone's money when they die.  Democrats do, to be sure, want to make sure that people who get millions of dollars of money they didn't earn pay fair taxes on it.
 
2013-09-23 09:03:06 PM  

12349876: We want kids with cancer whose parents only have $1,000 in savings to die


WTF are people with only $1K in savings doing having children? Obviously if you can only muster $1K, then you would have to be such a cesspool of shiatty genes that it would be unconscionable to have a child, since it is guaranteed to be a defective.

If you can't show at least $100K in savings and you have a kid, then both the parents and the kid should be shot on the spot on general principle.
 
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