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(Washington Post)   Now that Ted Cruz has promised to filibuster the budget bill, it has become physically impossible, according to the rules of the Senate and the law of time and space, for us to avoid a shutdown unless the House GOP caves, like, right now   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 345
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2013-09-23 04:22:31 PM
That will definitely happen.
 
2013-09-23 04:28:20 PM
The Canadian born Cuban is going to become a Tea Party folk hero...
 
2013-09-23 04:34:09 PM
DOOOOO EEEEEET!

/what could possibly go wrong?
 
2013-09-23 04:35:44 PM
Now rules matter to dems?
 
2013-09-23 04:43:32 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


Considering the well-being of the nation has not mattered to Republicans for the past several decades, why should you be so concerned?
 
2013-09-23 05:01:41 PM
What I think is getting lost in the coverage is that this bill supposedly does a lot of other bullshiat things in addition to defunding Obamacare.  Googling around all I can find are the Obamacare mentions, but doesn't it also cut funding for other important programs?  Anyone have a good source?
 
2013-09-23 05:04:27 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


lolwut
 
2013-09-23 05:08:23 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


*pats ferretman on the head*
 
2013-09-23 05:12:45 PM

mediablitz: The

Ivy-league educated Canadian born Cuban lawyer is going to become a Tea Party folk hero...

ftfy.
 
2013-09-23 05:23:51 PM
This is either going to happen or it will not. Worrying about it won't do me much good.
 
2013-09-23 05:24:43 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


Aren't you adorable?
 
2013-09-23 05:25:40 PM

MisterTweak: mediablitz: The Ivy-league educated Canadian born Cuban lawyer is going to become a Tea Party folk hero...

ftfy.


Damn elitist foreigner...
 
2013-09-23 05:26:46 PM
I suppose it also would technically be possible to avoid if John McCain decides to break Ted Cruz's neck on the floor of the Senate, as that would forcibly punctuate the filibuster. However, that would be a significant breach of the usual Senate decorum.
 
2013-09-23 05:43:26 PM

abb3w: I suppose it also would technically be possible to avoid if John McCain decides to break Ted Cruz's neck on the floor of the Senate, as that would forcibly punctuate the filibuster. However, that would be a significant breach of the usual Senate decorum.


Just have the old man beat him with a cane. At least there's precedent for that.
 
2013-09-23 05:45:41 PM

Car_Ramrod: abb3w: I suppose it also would technically be possible to avoid if John McCain decides to break Ted Cruz's neck on the floor of the Senate, as that would forcibly punctuate the filibuster. However, that would be a significant breach of the usual Senate decorum.

Just have the old man beat him with a cane. At least there's precedent for that.


And getting away with it too
 
IP
2013-09-23 06:32:31 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


wat.
 
2013-09-23 06:37:04 PM
www.thepaepae.com

/oblig
 
2013-09-23 06:45:54 PM

IP: ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?

wat.


He's a troll. Ignore him.
 
2013-09-23 06:56:46 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


When didn't the rules matter to the Democratic Party as compared to the Republican Party? I'll take your inevitable lack of response as an admission of the 'bare assertion troll.'
 
2013-09-23 07:10:18 PM

ferretman: Now rules matter to dems?


Who's been feeding you live crickets.
 
2013-09-23 07:17:39 PM
Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.
 
IP
2013-09-23 07:19:08 PM

vernonFL: Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.


0/10
 
2013-09-23 07:47:20 PM

vernonFL: Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.


Fear, uncertainty, doubt.
 
2013-09-23 07:47:31 PM

vernonFL: Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.


Try harder.
 
2013-09-23 07:47:37 PM
I'm hoping the President ignores their nonsense and orders the Fed to continue to pay their government's debts as required, on time.
 
2013-09-23 07:50:00 PM

vernonFL: Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.


The monkeys flying out of your ass will probably find it pretty funny.
 
2013-09-23 07:50:12 PM
It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.
 
2013-09-23 07:50:16 PM
Wouldn't the CR fall under reconciliation, and therefore not be subject to cloture?
 
2013-09-23 07:52:58 PM

Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.


Bob?

i.huffpost.com
"And over here we're going to build a happy little troll..."
 
2013-09-23 07:54:07 PM

Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.


Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.
 
2013-09-23 07:54:36 PM

twat_waffle: Wouldn't the CR fall under reconciliation, and therefore not be subject to cloture?


I believe only after the CR has been voted on and has gone threw conference committee is it considered reconciliation and not therefore not subject to cloture.

I could be wrong. I am by no means a Senate rules expert.
 
2013-09-23 07:54:39 PM

vernonFL: Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.


Hyuk hyuk
 
2013-09-23 07:54:42 PM
The Republican Shutdown. Bring it on.
 
2013-09-23 07:55:03 PM

Aristocles: BOB


I think at this point your goal is to derail all political threads into a bunch of posts of well known BOBs.
 
2013-09-23 07:55:04 PM

TuteTibiImperes: What I think is getting lost in the coverage is that this bill supposedly does a lot of other bullshiat things in addition to defunding Obamacare.  Googling around all I can find are the Obamacare mentions, but doesn't it also cut funding for other important programs?  Anyone have a good source?


Most of the nonsense is being attached to the debt limit hike, I believe. There's a grab-bag of things that they're trying to get through as part of that fight, including immediately approval of the XL pipeline, gutting funding for the CFRB, dismantling various financial regulations, blocking the EPA's new rules and opening federal lands to energy production.
 
2013-09-23 07:55:15 PM
How about they force him to filibuster for 5 days straight instead of caving at every "threat to filibuster"
 
2013-09-23 07:55:26 PM

vernonFL: Keep laughing, Libs.

We'll see if you are still laughing in 2014 when the Republican win big majorities in the House and Senate, and then in 2016 when Marco Rubio wins the Presidential election in a landslide. The first bill he'll propose is the repeal of Obamacare.

We'll see who is laughing then.


Can we quote you on this?
 
2013-09-23 07:55:43 PM

Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.


Who is Bob?
 
2013-09-23 07:55:58 PM
Camera got them images
Camera got them all
Nothing's shocking..
 
2013-09-23 07:56:03 PM
Remember when the Republicans demanded the Senate pass a budget bill? They said it was SO important to pass a real budget and not pass things via CRs... Then the Senate did and the Republicans refused to have a reconcile committee because they would be forced to compromise and wouldn't be able to hold the US hostage to get their way.

No one is mentioning this is how we got here. If we passed a real budge like the Republicans were demanding for and then refused to do we wouldn't be having this problem now,
 
2013-09-23 07:56:53 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.


Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.
 
2013-09-23 07:57:41 PM
So Republicans are both FOR and AGAINST the same CR bill. Refused to go to reconciliation on the Budget bill with the Senate and we are supposed to try to believe it's Obama's fault?


Riiiiiight!
 
2013-09-23 07:57:48 PM

twat_waffle: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Bob?

[i.huffpost.com image 850x593]
"And over here we're going to build a happy little troll..."


+1111111111111^111111111111
 
2013-09-23 07:58:24 PM

TuteTibiImperes: What I think is getting lost in the coverage is that this bill supposedly does a lot of other bullshiat things in addition to defunding Obamacare.  Googling around all I can find are the Obamacare mentions, but doesn't it also cut funding for other important programs?  Anyone have a good source?


Yes, it'll have a bunch of BS in it, like hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars being spent on tanks and planes the Pentagon neither needs nor wants while cutting spending on less important things like "education" and "infrastructure maintenance." Thing is, that's about as newsworthy and unexpected as the sun rising in the east, which is probably why you can't find too much information about the House's budget bill beyond the "prevent that uppity Chicago thug from winning at all costs, but we're totally not racist because we didn't use the N word to refer to the Usurper In Chief" part.

As far as I know, it's just an ordinary and unremarkable annual budget bill, except for the part that completely defunds Obamacare. And because of that last bit, the GOP have taken an otherwise routine bit of basic nation-state operations and turned it into the logical conclusion of the escalation of poison pill politics.

MisterTweak: mediablitz: The Ivy-league educated Canadian born Cuban lawyer whose father was a foreign-born commie is going to become a Tea Party folk hero...

ftfy.


Fixed further.
 
2013-09-23 07:59:51 PM

Aristocles: TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.

Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.


Wrong again. Polls show American do not want Obamacare defunded.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101053976
 
2013-09-23 08:00:08 PM

Corvus: Remember when the Republicans demanded the Senate pass a budget bill? They said it was SO important to pass a real budget and not pass things via CRs... Then the Senate did and the Republicans refused to have a reconcile committee because they would be forced to compromise and wouldn't be able to hold the US hostage to get their way.

No one is mentioning this is how we got here. If we passed a real budge like the Republicans were demanding for and then refused to do we wouldn't be having this problem now,


You mean how BOB and the dems forced a crummy law down Americans' throats?
 
2013-09-23 08:00:52 PM

Aristocles: Corvus: Remember when the Republicans demanded the Senate pass a budget bill? They said it was SO important to pass a real budget and not pass things via CRs... Then the Senate did and the Republicans refused to have a reconcile committee because they would be forced to compromise and wouldn't be able to hold the US hostage to get their way.

No one is mentioning this is how we got here. If we passed a real budge like the Republicans were demanding for and then refused to do we wouldn't be having this problem now,

You mean how BOB and the dems forced a crummy law down Americans' throats?


Who is Bob?
 
2013-09-23 08:01:10 PM

Aristocles: TuteTibiImperes: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Alternatively, the House could behave and just pass what Obama and the Senate tell them to, instead of going against the will of the people again and again trying to repeal the ACA, especially since the majority of the country supports the ACA and wants to see it put into action.

Polls show that most Americans don't want Obamacare.

/sure, there are some items in the legislation that we like, but as a whole, including the mandate, we hate it.


America is so against it, that we turned it down TWICE in a national election for the Leader of the nation.
Oh Wait.

We didn't, and your just telling more lies.

Again.

Go play with your B.O.B. Troll.
 
2013-09-23 08:01:32 PM

Aristocles: You mean how BOB and the dems forced a crummy law down Americans' throats?


So crummy the voters of America voted for Democrats into the White House, Senate, and House in 2012, with the only saving grace for the Republicans being Gerrymandering.
 
2013-09-23 08:01:44 PM

twat_waffle: Aristocles: It would also be avoidable if the dems and BOB stood with the Republicans on this one and acted in the interests of, and in accordance with the will of, the people.

Hint: Cruz isn't doing this because he supports Obamacare.

Bob?

[i.huffpost.com image 850x593]
"And over here we're going to build a happy little troll..."


wrong bob.
www.hji.co.uk
 
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