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(Huffington Post)   The House Republicans' budget includes cost savings brought about by Obamacare. Awkward   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 21
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2013-09-23 12:46:50 PM
6 votes:
Well.  Of course.  They're not trying to get rid of Obamacare because it's bad, they're trying to get rid of it because it's good.

("Good", in this case, is relative).

The last thing they want is something working out well for Joe average citizen that is a product of the Democrats.

If it was truly bad for the country, they'd be hands off and let the mess be placed at the feet of the Democrats.  The effort they've been putting in to trying to kill it is testament to just how frightened they are that people will like it when it's full implemented and understood.
2013-09-23 11:02:46 AM
6 votes:
not awkward - stupid. republicans are morons. they just made one in an increasingly large number of mistakes.

there was a time when the republican party included intellectuals. nixon - for all his faults - wasn't a dumb man. but now the GOP is controlled by mouth-breathing apes like louis gohmert, michelle bachmann and steve king. they're idiots and they're making policy. the fact that this policy is contradictory and unworkable is a natural byproduct of a party run by dunces.
2013-09-23 03:52:47 PM
2 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: Well.  Of course.  They're not trying to get rid of Obamacare because it's bad, they're trying to get rid of it because it's good.

("Good", in this case, is relative).

The last thing they want is something working out well for Joe average citizen that is a product of the Democrats.

If it was truly bad for the country, they'd be hands off and let the mess be placed at the feet of the Democrats.  The effort they've been putting in to trying to kill it is testament to just how frightened they are that people will like it when it's full implemented and understood.


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Think how they handle a situation they know will work out best for them. The Killian Memo.   The 'th' suffix as part of 187th was in superscript (showing it was done with Microsoft Word instead of a 1960s typewriter).

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They knew the document was a fake, irrespective of the debate of the story's accuracy, so they were quiet for days. Why stop an opponent from shooting themselves in the foot so close to the finish line?

Now compare that to the ACA. They have pinned Obama's name to it. Obamacare. But the funny thing about epithets are: they have a way of becoming the accepted name of what you were ridiculing, like with The Big Bang. So there it is. They named something hoping it would fail, not considering what it all meant historically it it were a resounding success. This could have been their Romney moment. Instead, they turned it into their Romney moment...! So do they relinquish their cards? Hell no! Never surrender! They NEVER surrender!

That's the beauty of bluffing someone that bluffs all the time, especially when they claim they always have an unbeatable hand. Just wait until you have an incredible hand, and call their bluff. You can clean out an opponent that can't change their strategy from this obvious tactic time after time. When called, they'll double down. They'll go all in. The cards will be revealed. And that's when they go completely mad and throw in the deeds to their houses too.

TL;DR - they hide their good cards with silence. Their constant screaming is their 'tell' they're bluffing. And they're not very good at knowing when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em.
2013-09-23 01:56:18 PM
2 votes:
Aristocles:  / I don't understand why dems and libs want the government, literally, up their asses.

Simple.  Early detection is the key to surviving prostate cancer.
2013-09-23 01:27:44 PM
2 votes:

Aristocles: timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

Not net gains. But make no mistake, Obamacare is a huge government program, thus it will "create" jobs that aren't needed in the first place. This will make it more difficult to repeal, as BOB and dems have tied jobs to the legislation.


What does this have to do with your vibrator? Seriously, you mention it in every thread. Do you just shove it up your ass and keep it running while you post in these threads? How many batteries do you go through in a typical week?
2013-09-23 01:10:59 PM
2 votes:

timujin: There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?


I have several family members that work for one of the national health insurance companies; in anticipation of health care reform they have trained and hired 200+ people for their call centers alone since the Supreme Court upheld the law.

This is a new set of products that is being sold directly to consumers, that requires additional employees in all sectors to implement.
2013-09-23 11:31:59 AM
2 votes:
Nobody's ever accused Paul Ryan of honesty.
2013-09-23 11:20:11 AM
2 votes:
Silly Subby- The GOP knows that their constituents will never read the budget, so how they got to their numbers is irrelevant.
2013-09-23 07:49:15 PM
1 votes:

timujin: So what you're saying, is that in addition to not wanting to allow folks to have access to healthcare, Republicans are actively trying to drive up unemployment?


Well, yeah.

The GOP goal is for the average American consumer to be paid $5/hr, have no health care, and no assistance to buy food. So they'll have no money to spend at Wal-Mart, which will have empty shelves anyway because the GOP has refused to pay for interstate bridge repairs over the last generation, and nobody can pass a CDL test thanks to their education cuts. And in turn, there will be no consumer or commercial vehicle traffic to pay for domestic gasoline and diesel products.

Then, at long last, they can declare victory over the liberal socialists.
2013-09-23 03:56:09 PM
1 votes:

Ricardo Klement: Maybe so, but the comment is that Obamacare created jobs, not that it will create jobs. At the moment, it's an investment.


That's not true.  The PPACA is a lot more than the insurance exchange.  It also expands community health services.  Many community health facilities have already received money to expand and have expanded resulting in construction jobs in addition to staffing positions and, on the secondary level, equipment purchases which also lead to job creation.  What's comical about it is that you'll often see Republicans cutting the ribbons or breaking ground at these expansion projects.

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2013-09-23 01:56:00 PM
1 votes:

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Aristocles:
Yay! Let's make the government so large that it affects every aspect of our lives! Wooo-hoo!

/ I don't understand why dems and libs want the government, literally, up their asses.

Legally required Insurance = Government mandate, but Private Industry provided Insurance.  Government hating Republicans should be in love with legally mandated profit centers, if it weren't for that darned black man doing it.

Government up your holes = Sodomy and invasive ultrasound laws, vigorously supported by conservatives.

Check and mate.


I still have yet to receive a serious answer to why ACA was a great idea when proposed by the Heritage Foundation, and when essentially the same thing was implemented in Mass. by Romney.

Unless the reason has to do with it being put into place by a nigg Democrat, why would people rejected something they previously supported, especially when they agree with the measure in the act?
2013-09-23 01:47:38 PM
1 votes:

Aristocles: show me: timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.
Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

Here's some in my county:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/obamacare-processing-center-t o- hire-in-wentzville/article_0a61e190-7222-56a5-a22b-a2b9f5a92161.html

FTFA:
Obamacare may be controversial, but it's about to bring hundreds of jobs to Wentzville.
A Virginia-based government contractor is planning to hire 600 people over the next three months to staff a processing center in the St. Charles County suburb, to handle applications for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

Yay! Let's make the government so large that it affects every aspect of our lives! Wooo-hoo!

/ I don't understand why dems and libs want the government, literally, up their asses.



I know, right? Why would anyone want clean water, safe food, and safe streets? Stupid libs, if it weren't for the government I could live like a warlord, hoarding all the food and water from my neighbors and only doling it out in return for sexual favors from their wives.
2013-09-23 01:42:47 PM
1 votes:

Aristocles: Yay! Let's make the government so large that it affects every aspect of our lives! Wooo-hoo!


They maintain your roads, your water, your food, your working conditions, and your retirement.

They're already in every aspect of your life.  And they do a pretty decent job of it as well, a few long term issues notwithstanding.
2013-09-23 01:40:50 PM
1 votes:

Aristocles: show me: timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.
Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

Here's some in my county:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/obamacare-processing-center-t o- hire-in-wentzville/article_0a61e190-7222-56a5-a22b-a2b9f5a92161.html

FTFA:
Obamacare may be controversial, but it's about to bring hundreds of jobs to Wentzville.
A Virginia-based government contractor is planning to hire 600 people over the next three months to staff a processing center in the St. Charles County suburb, to handle applications for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

Yay! Let's make the government so large that it affects every aspect of our lives! Wooo-hoo!

/ I don't understand why dems and libs want the government, literally, up their asses.


As opposed to small enough to fit in a vagina?
2013-09-23 01:28:55 PM
1 votes:
He also should get props for not letting that slimy farker try to change the topic.
2013-09-23 01:26:54 PM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Bullshiat savings, in other words.


Are you telling us that Paul Ryan is a bullshiatter when it comes to his numbers?
2013-09-23 01:23:31 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: not awkward - stupid. republicans are morons. they just made one in an increasingly large number of mistakes.

there was a time when the republican party included intellectuals. nixon - for all his faults - wasn't a dumb man. but now the GOP is controlled by mouth-breathing apes like louis gohmert, michelle bachmann and steve king. they're idiots and they're making policy. the fact that this policy is contradictory and unworkable is a natural byproduct of a party run by dunces.


Look at the right's beloved St. Ronnie.  Reagan had a talent for making policies that would fark over anyone who's not rich as hell sound like they'd be awesome for everyone.  A moron like Ted Cruz, on the other hand, has a talent for getting the teabagger base all herpaderped up, but he can't really appeal to or convince anyone not in his echo chamber about his ideas.
2013-09-23 01:20:35 PM
1 votes:
During an appearance on ABC's "This Week," Van Hollen, the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said Republicans owe the public an explanation for how they can regularly vote to get rid of the Affordable Care Act -- they have now because of Obamacare savings.

Well, Chris, it's quite simple, you see. They have to work with the numbers as they stand. Also, the bogus "projected revenue" from Obamacare is questionable at best. Finally, the costs of Obamacare still out-weigh any revenue. In short, you've got nothing. But I'm sure the libs and dems will uncritically parrot your talking point, so, there's that.
2013-09-23 01:15:33 PM
1 votes:

Clent: timujin: There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

I have several family members that work for one of the national health insurance companies; in anticipation of health care reform they have trained and hired 200+ people for their call centers alone since the Supreme Court upheld the law.

This is a new set of products that is being sold directly to consumers, that requires additional employees in all sectors to implement.


We haven't hired in years but we are now - specifically because of all the IT business the ACA will bring us.
2013-09-23 12:16:23 PM
1 votes:
In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.
2013-09-23 11:38:38 AM
1 votes:

Dinki: The GOP knows that their constituents will never read


you can stop right there.
 
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