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2013-09-23 11:02:46 AM  
not awkward - stupid. republicans are morons. they just made one in an increasingly large number of mistakes.

there was a time when the republican party included intellectuals. nixon - for all his faults - wasn't a dumb man. but now the GOP is controlled by mouth-breathing apes like louis gohmert, michelle bachmann and steve king. they're idiots and they're making policy. the fact that this policy is contradictory and unworkable is a natural byproduct of a party run by dunces.
 
2013-09-23 11:04:58 AM  
Ah.  The Stimulus Waltz.  A classic.
 
2013-09-23 11:20:11 AM  
Silly Subby- The GOP knows that their constituents will never read the budget, so how they got to their numbers is irrelevant.
 
2013-09-23 11:22:02 AM  
POTATO!
 
2013-09-23 11:31:59 AM  
Nobody's ever accused Paul Ryan of honesty.
 
2013-09-23 11:38:38 AM  

Dinki: The GOP knows that their constituents will never read


you can stop right there.
 
2013-09-23 12:16:23 PM  
In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.
 
2013-09-23 12:22:20 PM  

mediablitz: Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.


They'll be happy to acknowledge them as long as they can say they're in spite of Obamacare.
 
2013-09-23 12:31:15 PM  
Hah.  You assume they'll keep Medicare intact as well.
 
2013-09-23 12:42:42 PM  
FTFA: "That's misleading and that's a hoax," he added.

Shout it from the mountaintops.
 
2013-09-23 12:46:50 PM  
Well.  Of course.  They're not trying to get rid of Obamacare because it's bad, they're trying to get rid of it because it's good.

("Good", in this case, is relative).

The last thing they want is something working out well for Joe average citizen that is a product of the Democrats.

If it was truly bad for the country, they'd be hands off and let the mess be placed at the feet of the Democrats.  The effort they've been putting in to trying to kill it is testament to just how frightened they are that people will like it when it's full implemented and understood.
 
2013-09-23 12:48:54 PM  

mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.


There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?
 
2013-09-23 12:52:02 PM  

timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?


At least a thousand!
 
2013-09-23 01:07:57 PM  

timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?


Notice how I said "next up"? That implies something coming in the future. But just how DO you think we will handle another 10-30 million people seeking health care? No hiring for nurses at all (one of the most in demanc jobs)?
 
2013-09-23 01:10:59 PM  

timujin: There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?


I have several family members that work for one of the national health insurance companies; in anticipation of health care reform they have trained and hired 200+ people for their call centers alone since the Supreme Court upheld the law.

This is a new set of products that is being sold directly to consumers, that requires additional employees in all sectors to implement.
 
2013-09-23 01:15:08 PM  
Paul Ryan, Numbers Guy
 
2013-09-23 01:15:33 PM  

Clent: timujin: There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

I have several family members that work for one of the national health insurance companies; in anticipation of health care reform they have trained and hired 200+ people for their call centers alone since the Supreme Court upheld the law.

This is a new set of products that is being sold directly to consumers, that requires additional employees in all sectors to implement.


We haven't hired in years but we are now - specifically because of all the IT business the ACA will bring us.
 
2013-09-23 01:16:14 PM  
sorry I slipped, what I meant to type was Paul Ryan, Literal Human Garbage
 
2013-09-23 01:16:19 PM  

Jackson Herring: Paul Ryan, Numbers Guy


He still is.  They're just not his numbers.
 
2013-09-23 01:16:23 PM  

Clent: timujin: There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

I have several family members that work for one of the national health insurance companies; in anticipation of health care reform they have trained and hired 200+ people for their call centers alone since the Supreme Court upheld the law.

This is a new set of products that is being sold directly to consumers, that requires additional employees in all sectors to implement.


This.
 
2013-09-23 01:17:12 PM  
I thought we were supposed to pass bills before we find out what is in the bill?
 
2013-09-23 01:20:35 PM  
During an appearance on ABC's "This Week," Van Hollen, the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said Republicans owe the public an explanation for how they can regularly vote to get rid of the Affordable Care Act -- they have now because of Obamacare savings.

Well, Chris, it's quite simple, you see. They have to work with the numbers as they stand. Also, the bogus "projected revenue" from Obamacare is questionable at best. Finally, the costs of Obamacare still out-weigh any revenue. In short, you've got nothing. But I'm sure the libs and dems will uncritically parrot your talking point, so, there's that.
 
2013-09-23 01:20:45 PM  
Well, that's amusing.
 
2013-09-23 01:21:22 PM  
It takes a whole lot more than savings from Obamacare to keep Ryan's budget plan from increasing our debt.
 
2013-09-23 01:23:06 PM  

Jackson Herring: Paul Ryan, Numbers Guy


Unskewed numbers guy at that.

t.qkme.me
 
2013-09-23 01:23:31 PM  

FlashHarry: not awkward - stupid. republicans are morons. they just made one in an increasingly large number of mistakes.

there was a time when the republican party included intellectuals. nixon - for all his faults - wasn't a dumb man. but now the GOP is controlled by mouth-breathing apes like louis gohmert, michelle bachmann and steve king. they're idiots and they're making policy. the fact that this policy is contradictory and unworkable is a natural byproduct of a party run by dunces.


Look at the right's beloved St. Ronnie.  Reagan had a talent for making policies that would fark over anyone who's not rich as hell sound like they'd be awesome for everyone.  A moron like Ted Cruz, on the other hand, has a talent for getting the teabagger base all herpaderped up, but he can't really appeal to or convince anyone not in his echo chamber about his ideas.
 
2013-09-23 01:25:39 PM  
While it wouldn't keep every aspect of the health care law in place, the budget authored by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) does rely on Obamacare's $716 billion in cuts to Medicare and maintains its $1.2 trillion tax increase.

Seriously, how can anyone defend this shiat?
 
2013-09-23 01:25:48 PM  
Bullshiat savings, in other words.
 
2013-09-23 01:25:52 PM  

timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?


Not net gains. But make no mistake, Obamacare is a huge government program, thus it will "create" jobs that aren't needed in the first place. This will make it more difficult to repeal, as BOB and dems have tied jobs to the legislation.
 
2013-09-23 01:26:17 PM  
And by anyone, I mean real people and not admitted trolls.
 
2013-09-23 01:26:19 PM  
Why don't we talk about Chris Van Hollen more? Is it because he tells the truth?
 
2013-09-23 01:26:54 PM  

Cletus C.: Bullshiat savings, in other words.


Are you telling us that Paul Ryan is a bullshiatter when it comes to his numbers?
 
2013-09-23 01:27:01 PM  

Aristocles: During an appearance on ABC's "This Week," Van Hollen, the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said Republicans owe the public an explanation for how they can regularly vote to get rid of the Affordable Care Act -- they have now because of Obamacare savings.

Well, Chris, it's quite simple, you see. They have to work with the numbers as they stand. Also, the bogus "projected revenue" from Obamacare is questionable at best. Finally, the costs of Obamacare still out-weigh any revenue. In short, you've got nothing. But I'm sure the libs and dems will uncritically parrot your talking point, so, there's that.


Hey man, I think he heard you.

Awesome.
 
2013-09-23 01:27:44 PM  

Aristocles: timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.

Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

Not net gains. But make no mistake, Obamacare is a huge government program, thus it will "create" jobs that aren't needed in the first place. This will make it more difficult to repeal, as BOB and dems have tied jobs to the legislation.


What does this have to do with your vibrator? Seriously, you mention it in every thread. Do you just shove it up your ass and keep it running while you post in these threads? How many batteries do you go through in a typical week?
 
2013-09-23 01:28:23 PM  

Bloody William: And by anyone, I mean real people and not admitted trolls.


Anyone who defends this should never be allowed to post on the internet again.
 
2013-09-23 01:28:55 PM  
He also should get props for not letting that slimy farker try to change the topic.
 
2013-09-23 01:29:14 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Cletus C.: Bullshiat savings, in other words.

Are you telling us that Paul Ryan is a bullshiatter when it comes to his numbers?


Yes.
 
2013-09-23 01:30:29 PM  

Jackson Herring: sorry I slipped, what I meant to type was Paul Ryan, Literal Human Garbage


No worries.  I do the same thing all the time.
 
2013-09-23 01:31:37 PM  

timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.
Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?


Here's some in my county:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/obamacare-processing-center-t o- hire-in-wentzville/article_0a61e190-7222-56a5-a22b-a2b9f5a92161.html

FTFA:
Obamacare may be controversial, but it's about to bring hundreds of jobs to Wentzville.
A Virginia-based government contractor is planning to hire 600 people over the next three months to staff a processing center in the St. Charles County suburb, to handle applications for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.
 
2013-09-23 01:32:12 PM  

Jackson Herring: sorry I slipped, what I meant to type was Paul Ryan, Literal Human Garbage


What do you have against Literal Human Garbage to besmirch their reputation with a comparison to Paul Ryan?
 
2013-09-23 01:32:23 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Cletus C.: Bullshiat savings, in other words.

Are you telling us that Paul Ryan is a bullshiatter when it comes to his numbers?


Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?

Paul Ryan: Stand-up policy wonk.

Dole Office Clerk: What?

Paul Ryan: Stand-up policy wonk. I coalesce the vapors of budgetary minutiae into a viable and meaningful comprehension.

Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a *bullshiat* artist!
 
2013-09-23 01:32:25 PM  

show me: timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.
Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

Here's some in my county:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/obamacare-processing-center-t o- hire-in-wentzville/article_0a61e190-7222-56a5-a22b-a2b9f5a92161.html

FTFA:
Obamacare may be controversial, but it's about to bring hundreds of jobs to Wentzville.
A Virginia-based government contractor is planning to hire 600 people over the next three months to staff a processing center in the St. Charles County suburb, to handle applications for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.


Oh, so like Census jobs.
 
2013-09-23 01:33:16 PM  

Cletus C.: Bullshiat savings, in other words.


Everybody is lying! Repubs, Dems, economists, your mom!
 
2013-09-23 01:33:29 PM  

fuhfuhfuh: Jackson Herring: sorry I slipped, what I meant to type was Paul Ryan, Literal Human Garbage

What do you have against Literal Human Garbage to besmirch their reputation with a comparison to Paul Ryan?


Get a room.
 
2013-09-23 01:34:20 PM  

fuhfuhfuh: How many batteries do you go through in a typical week?


it's one of those that plugs into a standard 110v socket.  he may have to up to it 220, since he's losing sensitivity to it lately.
 
2013-09-23 01:35:49 PM  
Will 2013 go down as the year the GOP fell on their swords? Tripped on their own dicks? shiat where they eat?
 
2013-09-23 01:36:30 PM  
Oh come on.  Everyone knows that if they defeat Obamacare, St. Ronnie will rise from the dead, bless the multitudes of True Conservatives, and usher in a golden age of no taxes, limited government and right wing bliss.
 
2013-09-23 01:36:35 PM  

mediablitz: Cletus C.: Bullshiat savings, in other words.

Everybody is lying! Repubs, Dems, economists, your mom!


Federal budget numbers? Mom is too busy sticking a ball gag in your mouth to worry about that stuff.

But yes, everyone in politics talking budget numbers is like Bullwinkle pulling a rabbit out of his hat.
 
2013-09-23 01:36:38 PM  

show me: timujin: mediablitz: In before "HuffPo, so I will ignore it" posts.
Next up. Republicans refuse to acknowledge job gains due to ObamaCare.

There have been job gains due to Obamacare?  Got a source for that?

Here's some in my county:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/obamacare-processing-center-t o- hire-in-wentzville/article_0a61e190-7222-56a5-a22b-a2b9f5a92161.html

FTFA:
Obamacare may be controversial, but it's about to bring hundreds of jobs to Wentzville.
A Virginia-based government contractor is planning to hire 600 people over the next three months to staff a processing center in the St. Charles County suburb, to handle applications for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.


Yay! Let's make the government so large that it affects every aspect of our lives! Wooo-hoo!

/ I don't understand why dems and libs want the government, literally, up their asses.
 
2013-09-23 01:38:07 PM  
The party of fiscal nonsense.

Honorable John Boehner
Speaker of the House
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Mr. Speaker:

Repealing Obamacare will add $109 Billion to the deficit in the first decade.

Hugs & Kisses,

CBO

(link goes to .pdf)
 
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