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(International Business Times)   "Dexter" producers think the series finale was stupid too (spoilers in article)   (ibtimes.com) divider line 152
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2013-09-23 12:08:03 PM  
That was the most mind-blowingly stupid series finale I have ever witnessed.

I wonder how much coke was in the writers' room when someone exclaimed (spoiler alert)

"OMG let's make him a lumberjack! Gobble them down till the plate comes back he's Hungry Jack!"

I hope all the writers of this show do some sort of ritual suicide.
 
2013-09-23 12:20:51 PM  
I gave up entirely on this show several seasons ago, when it became obvious that the writing was getting far worse, not better. It followed exactly the same trajectory as 24 and True Blood -- very promising premiere season, OK second season, then rapidly unspooling stupidity. That the finale was terrible doesn't surprise me in the least, although to be fair I think that the show probably looks far worse than it really is now that Breaking Bad has demonstrated what a high bar actually looks like.
 
2013-09-23 12:24:07 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I gave up entirely on this show several seasons ago, when it became obvious that the writing was getting far worse, not better. It followed exactly the same trajectory as 24 and True Blood -- very promising premiere season, OK second season, then rapidly unspooling stupidity. That the finale was terrible doesn't surprise me in the least, although to be fair I think that the show probably looks far worse than it really is now that Breaking Bad has demonstrated what a high bar actually looks like.


I do not comprehend the satire in this post.

/Hoping that Sleepy Hollow does not follow the same path.
//Probably safe; as it is a show that I enjoy, it will likely not last more than half of one season.
 
2013-09-23 12:24:59 PM  
I stopped watching Dexter after Season 5 because it had gotten so bad.

From what I've read about it since, it sounds like it's gotten exponentially worse.

The AV Club review of the finale is a scorched-earth assault.
 
2013-09-23 12:36:07 PM  
The one productive thing that I got out of this season was that I should avoid a Scott Buck show at all costs. Good f*ck that was stupid.

I mean, in the last 20 minutes alone you had:

-A wanted killer that had avoided capture for his entire life walking straight into a hospital that has extra personnel because of the deux ex machina hurricane. His shiatty distraction for getting in only proves the point.

-Said killer being taken down by Batista in the one time this year that the department decides to do competent police work. He's then murdered by Dexter in a small interrogation room, and Dexter is allowed to walk right out because the camera didn't have a microphone and they don't need to, you know, ask him any questions/fill out paperwork/etc.

-Dexter taking his sister off life support, then strolling right out the f*cking front door with her body and onto his boat (because this hospital apparently has docks) without anybody so much as batting an eye

-Deciding to dump her body and then completely invalidate the "Dex's impulses can only be cured by the love of the right woman" theme of this season by suddenly deciding that his son is better off being raised by a serial killer on another continent and faking his own death. Because this is Dexter,neither of them have a problem with this when they read about it on the front page of the Miami Herald. He then magically survives the hurricane and goes into hiding as a woodchipper.

This season, and specifically the finale, was so bad that it retroactively made me hate the time I've spent on the show in the first place. It neutered the character and surrounding cast in a way that I couldn't have done if I was trying to sabotage the show myself. If it had just ended at season four, great- Rita dies and he's forced to become a single father of three, intent on making sure that they don't make the same mistakes he did. Hell, just have at least one of the people in the Miami PD be decent detectives and take him down to make him rot in prison or fry. But no, they cured his urges with a hot serial killer, sent away his stepkids because they were too hard to write for, gave him a babysitter that works 100 hours a week with no complaints, spent half the season on plotlines and characters that didn't amount to anything, then somehow undid all of THAT by having him decide at the 11th hour that he wanted to go loggin'.

Just... wow.
 
2013-09-23 12:44:56 PM  
"Wow what a horrible dream.  I've got to stop eating that rarebit?"

- Just guessing.
 
2013-09-23 12:45:14 PM  
I'm so glad I stopped watching after season 2. I have *good* memories of the show.
 
2013-09-23 12:47:55 PM  
Lindelof and Cuse! You're off the hook!
 
2013-09-23 12:51:04 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Lindelof and Cuse! You're off the hook!


I loved the ending of Lost.  (I know, I know...)
 
2013-09-23 12:51:57 PM  
I liked that the end was Dexter having a clean slate. Maybe they could so a spin-off that doesn't suck the life out of the characters in the last season.

What a weird end to what was a great series.
 
2013-09-23 12:53:52 PM  
I'm glad I checked out during the Julia Styles season. Looks like I made the right choice.

/Series should have ended somewhere around the time that Dick Solomon killed Darla.
 
2013-09-23 12:54:14 PM  
shiatty finale...but it would have made so much more sense if the inner monologue had said three simple words as it slowly zoomed in on his face.

/tonight's the night
 
2013-09-23 12:56:22 PM  
Honestly,they should have stopped after trinity..
 
2013-09-23 12:56:47 PM  
What a terrible, disappointing episode.  It was the most cliched series finale ever, with so many TV tropes thrown in.  It felt incredibly unoriginal, as if series finales borrowed from other famous shows and movies were thrown together into this one.  The writers were obviously watching "The Dark Knight Rises" right before writing this one up.

***SPOILER***

My Gripes:

-Deb's death was so contrived and unnecessary and pointless, it was definitely shoe-horned in.  I guess the writers figured that she had to be accountable for Laguerta's death somehow.

-Wow, that Masuka storyline with his daughter went nowhere.

-Quinn's detective aspirations went nowhere.

-Angel's restaurant storyline went nowhere.

-That Zach Hamilton serial killer was unbelievably pointless, and killed off for no reason.

-The fact that Dexter would entrust his son to Hannah McKay seems very, very wrong to me.

-Having both Elway and that U.S. Marshall seemed redundant.  Having them as one character would've tightened up the storyline.

Just a terrible show to the end, and I hate myself for having watched the entire damn thing.
 
2013-09-23 01:07:06 PM  

sigdiamond2000: I stopped watching Dexter after Season 5 because it had gotten so bad.

From what I've read about it since, it sounds like it's gotten exponentially worse.

The AV Club review of the finale is a scorched-earth assault.


Compared to this season S5 was a masterpiece.

Like holy shiat there's episodes of Spongebob Squarepants that make more sense than this season.
 
2013-09-23 01:07:41 PM  
Anyone know why Chrome downloads a widgets-tweet_button.html.torrent file when opening the page?
 
2013-09-23 01:08:42 PM  
And it was really painful to go from watching "Breaking Bad" to "Dexter" right afterwards.  It was like night and day, in terms of quality and entertainment, just a huge contrast between the two shows.

With BB, everything was deliberate, and each word and each action meant something.  Turn away even for a second, and you might miss a critical plot point.  With "Dexter", I could just play it in the background while FARK-ing, and not really miss anything.

"Dexter" had bigger kills and more action and violence last night, but there was no build-up to any of those things, rendering them meaningless and you just emotionally glide over them.  But in BB, that one kill, way off in the distance and in darkness and hard to see, was enough to make you angry and your stomach sick.  It's all in the writing, yo.
 
2013-09-23 01:10:22 PM  
I find it interesting that both of the (clearly incorrect) leaked endings I know of involved someone at Miami Metro revealing that they know all about Dexter, but have been covering up for him. The first I saw had Matthews; the second had Quinn. While both scenarios had problems, at least they tried to explain how an entire homicide department could be so incompetent.

Instead, the closest the actual finale came to that was Quinn just sort of giving Dexter a look while watching the video.  And Angel being incompetent.
 
2013-09-23 01:13:00 PM  
He's a lumberjack and he's OH-KAY!

/Never watched it.
 
2013-09-23 01:16:01 PM  
This happens when writers create a popular character who is essentially not a good guy. They become afraid of turning off fans, so they softpedal his badness. Or they go the other direction, and write him as increasingly bad, out of a perverse desire to see how far fans will go to defend him.
 
2013-09-23 01:16:34 PM  
I'm so very glad I stopped watching with Season 4.  Season 1 and 2 were perfect.  Season 3 was a little off but generally ok, and Season 4 was pretty good, especially with the ending, but man...how do you take such a good character and screw it up so much?
 
2013-09-23 01:19:19 PM  
I see Elway, Mathews, Quinn and Dexter.  Is this the NFL Special?

Only watched the Trinity Season.  Loved it!  Sad to see it go down a strange and Lonely path..
 
2013-09-23 01:20:12 PM  
I stopped watching in season 4. What could possible have gone so wrong that AV club gave it an F? Seriously, what was so bad? Deb dies and he fakes his death?
 
2013-09-23 01:21:38 PM  

Gone to Plaid: shiatty finale...but it would have made so much more sense if the inner monologue had said three simple words as it slowly zoomed in on his face.

/tonight's the night


I was expecting/hoping the "tonight's the night" music would start and we'd hear those words. I would have forgiven much just to hear that. It would tie it all back to the beginning.
 
2013-09-23 01:22:29 PM  
Well, the ending kind of tied things up for the main character. Dexter (whose seems to lose more brain cells every season) finally realizes that he is responsible for the deaths of nearly everyone he's been close to (Harry, Rita, Vogel, Debs) and decides to protect his remaining loved ones by "dying".
Also the supporting characters plot lines might point to the supposed spin off, much like Major Crimes picked up from the Closer.
According to IMDB, Michael C Hall is pretty busy for a few years, so it would be a Dexter-less spinoff.
 
2013-09-23 01:22:35 PM  
DeWayne Mann:
Instead, the closest the actual finale came to that was Quinn just sort of giving Dexter a look while watching the video.  And Angel being incompetent.

Quinn loved Deb, what else did you expect. I really dont believe that everyone would be biatching so much if Breaking Bad was on now.  This show has slowly went downhill in the last couple seasons, what else do you expect?  I was happy that Dexter was still alive, in which I expected death for him.
 
2013-09-23 01:23:24 PM  

Confabulat: That was the most mind-blowingly stupid series finale I have ever witnessed.


Um, no. The Sopranos last episode was an abomination, and I don't care how David Chase tries to spin it. It was a cop out. If Tony Soprano got shot and the "Cut to Black" cut was a representation of his life ending, they did it poorly. If the cut meant that Tony's life went on even if we stopped watching, it was also done poorly. There's just really no excuse how they chose to end the last Sopranos episode.

Hopefully the last episode of "Breaking Bad" shows how a show should end. I mean, we know Walt is back in New Mexico, with a M60 and the ricin. And that's he's pissed off at both the Schwartz' and the Aryans. If BB has a shiatty final episode now that would be a major disappointment. Especially if the final scene cuts to black.
 
2013-09-23 01:25:11 PM  

Pixiest: Gone to Plaid: shiatty finale...but it would have made so much more sense if the inner monologue had said three simple words as it slowly zoomed in on his face.

/tonight's the night

I was expecting/hoping the "tonight's the night" music would start and we'd hear those words. I would have forgiven much just to hear that. It would tie it all back to the beginning.


There's a tie back to the beginning, where Dexter's inner monologue was something like "I hope I don't have to kill Debs."
 
2013-09-23 01:26:04 PM  
The only bit of clever/interesting that the writers worked in was naming the Hurricane 'Laura'- after Dexter's mom.
 
2013-09-23 01:27:13 PM  
This whole season was going in very weird directions, especially the "love heals all" bullshiat they were forcing on us.  That one was really driving me nuts, since the previous season had Dexter's fantasies about Hannah being that she accepted him for the good-hearted yet murderous guy that he is, and helped him cover his kills well into geriatrics.  Then there's this season's "big bad" serial killer, which unlike almost every other season we don't even meet until nearly the end of the season, and who has no real personality or interaction with Dexter until that point other than Vogel trying to aim Dexter at him like some kind of dumb-fire serial killer missile.  It's hard to root for our anti-hero taking out someone when that someone has all the personality of a slate wall.

But okay, let's just skip over that and get to the finale, which even compared to the rest of the season was an abrupt shift in tone and direction.  The genius serial killer who somehow faked his own death as a teenager and has eluded detection for decades suddenly decides to forget all of those skills and waltz into a hospital that any idiot could tell you would be filled with cops, cops who sure as hell aren't going to be distracted by some guy in the ER making a scene.  Then Dexter deals with him in the most un-Dexter-like way yet, doing it in front of his cop buddies, and none of his cop buddies think "huh, why's he so good at killing?"  Instead of Dexter being the barest of inches away from discovery by the law at any given moment - a huge part of the show's thriller-like fun I might add - the finale turns every cop's "dumb" dial to 11.

Deb's death?  Hack writing at best, a fark you to the fans at worst.  Kill her? Sure. Do it like some kind of lame-ass Terry Schiavo? This is a Showtime series, not a Lifetime series.  And the ending... what hasn't been said about it?  Unexpected, confusing, and resolves nothing.  The entire premise behind him faking his death and becoming a goddamn lumberjack is way out of left field, completely counter to anything the character has done in the previous 95 episodes.

What fans were expecting - what the Onion AV article pointed out quite well - was an answer to "will he get away with it", and the show gave us NOTHING.  Yes or no, those would have been acceptable answers.  Dex spending the rest of his life behind bars, no matter how harsh, would have at least had a thematic satisfaction to the whole affair.  Instead this self-imposed sad-eyed exile turns the vicious serial killer who gleefully murdered a kiddy-diddler in the show's pilot into a simpering woe-is-me pussy.  It's like the Walter White to Heisenberg transformation except it being completely farking retarded, and none of it happened until the last 80-ish minutes of the show's run.

In short, I'm not a fan of the show's ending.
 
2013-09-23 01:27:37 PM  
What we need is a photoshop of Walter White at the bar in New Hampshire, and then the bartender turns the TV to Dexter, and Walter's face slowly changing into the scorching rage face. Or the bartender turns the TV to Jeff Daniels winning the Emmy.
 
2013-09-23 01:28:55 PM  

The Banana Thug: What a terrible, disappointing episode.  It was the most cliched series finale ever, with so many TV tropes thrown in.  It felt incredibly unoriginal, as if series finales borrowed from other famous shows and movies were thrown together into this one.  The writers were obviously watching "The Dark Knight Rises" right before writing this one up.

***SPOILER***

My Gripes:

-Deb's death was so contrived and unnecessary and pointless, it was definitely shoe-horned in.  I guess the writers figured that she had to be accountable for Laguerta's death somehow.


I guess she had to die for Dexter's sins, or some such crap like that.  It was such a completely unnecessary and pointless death.  Some shows can get away with that.  Dexter can't.

-Wow, that Masuka storyline with his daughter went nowhere.

-Quinn's detective aspirations went nowhere.

-Angel's restaurant storyline went nowhere.

-That Zach Hamilton serial killer was unbelievably pointless, and killed off for no reason.


Yep, yep, yep, and yep.

-The fact that Dexter would entrust his son to Hannah McKay seems very, very wrong to me.

Especially when he HAS grandparents, and a half-brother and half-sister.  Why not send Harrison to Orlando to live with Astor and Cody once you know you're not going to be with him?

-Having both Elway and that U.S. Marshall seemed redundant.  Having them as one character would've tightened up the storyline.

Just a terrible show to the end, and I hate myself for having watched the entire damn thing.


I'm not gonna say the destination ruined the journey.  I actually didn't mind the last few seasons.  But this ending was just so silly and underwhelming, especially when put up against Breaking Bad.
 
2013-09-23 01:30:13 PM  
I read that he gets on a motorcycle with Dr. House.
 
2013-09-23 01:33:21 PM  

Trocadero: What we need is a photoshop of Walter White at the bar in New Hampshire, and then the bartender turns the TV to Dexter, and Walter's face slowly changing into the scorching rage face. Or the bartender turns the TV to Jeff Daniels winning the Emmy.


I want this so bad.  It'd be better than Hank and Marie watching Miley twerk.
 
2013-09-23 01:34:15 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: This season, and specifically the finale, was so bad that it retroactively made me hate the time I've spent on the show in the first place.


This finale was so bad I'm debating if I put it behind or ahead of the Enterprise finale.  Or the Mass Effect 3 ending.  It's definitely a case where I'll recommend that friends stop before the last episode and just imagine their own ending instead, since it will undoubtedly be better.
 
2013-09-23 01:35:08 PM  
Dexter becomes a lumberjack, lol...wow.  Just wow.
 
2013-09-23 01:36:03 PM  
Things started going down hill for me this season when Hanna showed up.  I can't stand the character and Dexter's IQ plummets about fifty points when she's around.

Also I really wished he had just jumped into the ocean along with Deb's body.
 
2013-09-23 01:37:03 PM  
If they wanted to show they truly understood psychopaths it would be revealed there never were any 'bad' serial killers. It was him doing those kills too, only projecting the things he couldn't cope with himself doing onto others.
 
2013-09-23 01:37:10 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: what else do you expect?


I dunno, maybe like police officers capable of basic police work. Something like that.

I know, it's weird.
 
2013-09-23 01:40:51 PM  

rugman11: Trocadero: What we need is a photoshop of Walter White at the bar in New Hampshire, and then the bartender turns the TV to Dexter, and Walter's face slowly changing into the scorching rage face. Or the bartender turns the TV to Jeff Daniels winning the Emmy.

I want this so bad.  It'd be better than Hank and Marie watching Miley twerk.


http://youtu.be/2bXxbz02s9E
Took long enough!
 
2013-09-23 01:41:55 PM  
Just terrible.

I would have preferred a cheesy victory lap where everyone gets a happy ending and says their tearful goodbyes than the total lack of sense that ending made.

Why did Dexter take Deb out to see instead of a proper burial? You know what would have really saved Hannah and Harrison? Stopping killing people and living a happy life so that people don't want to hurt your family anymore. Instead he just up and disappears, leaving Harrison with a woman the child barely knows instead of the Nancy or the grantparents.

Seriously, Dafuq did i just watch?!?!
 
2013-09-23 01:46:31 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: If they wanted to show they truly understood psychopaths it would be revealed there never were any 'bad' serial killers. It was him doing those kills too, only projecting the things he couldn't cope with himself doing onto others.


If they truly understood sociopathic serial killers, we wouldn't have gone from cold blooded pinocchio serial killer into a real live boy who doesn't want to kill anymore..
 
2013-09-23 01:48:17 PM  

freak7: Did Deb hop into her Prius, pop in a CD and make the long drive to New York City?


No, but comatose Debs woke up after being dumped into cold water during a hurricane. She goes back to police work, seriously pissed.
 
2013-09-23 01:48:24 PM  

Trocadero: rugman11: Trocadero: What we need is a photoshop of Walter White at the bar in New Hampshire, and then the bartender turns the TV to Dexter, and Walter's face slowly changing into the scorching rage face. Or the bartender turns the TV to Jeff Daniels winning the Emmy.

I want this so bad.  It'd be better than Hank and Marie watching Miley twerk.

http://youtu.be/2bXxbz02s9E
Took long enough!


Oh.  Perfect.  Good find!
 
2013-09-23 01:50:31 PM  

Confabulat: That was the most mind-blowingly stupid series finale I have ever witnessed.

I wonder how much coke was in the writers' room when someone exclaimed (spoiler alert)

"OMG let's make him a lumberjack! Gobble them down till the plate comes back he's Hungry Jack!"

I hope all the writers of this show do some sort of ritual suicide.


Remember the old Hulk TV show, where one of the world's brightest scientists winds up performing menial labor in some podunk town?
 
2013-09-23 01:51:57 PM  
Season 1 - Ice Truck Killer:  Great Season
Season 2 - Bay Harbor Butcher:  Great Season
Season 3 - Jimmy Smits:  Mostly lame...you could almost mark the downward spiral in quality due to the writers strike.  The last couple of episodes were good.
Season 4 - Trinity:  Best season, best finale episode.  They could have ended the entire series at the end of season 4.
Season 5 - Jordan Chase:  Not great; but not horrible.  Lumen was a like-able character; but it seemed like they were trying to clean-up his previous relationships now that Rita was dead which was the low point of that season.
Season 6 -  Doomsday Killer: imaginary Edward James Olmos & Colin Hanks as a twisted murderer?  The side plots were beyond lame and the finale sucked.
Season 7 -  Didn't bother
Season 8 - I read the synopsis and saw a few scenes to see if it was worth watching again.  Nope.

WTF?  Now Deb is a killer?
he has a serial killer girlfriend?
His psychiatrist is coaching him to be a killer and is an accomplice?
They are introducing new bad guys three quarters of the way through the final season?

Seriously, I would not have been surprised if they introduced a new sidekick for Dexter:  a friendly bear named Bobo who is gentle to all the good guys, but disposes of the bodies of the killers Dexter murders.

...(reads synopsis of finale)

...Lumberjack, huh?  Guess I wasn't far off.
 
2013-09-23 02:03:22 PM  

ChewbaccaJones: Season 4 - Trinity: Best season, best finale episode. They could have ended the entire series at the end of season 4.


They should have packed up shop right then and there
 
2013-09-23 02:04:30 PM  
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2013-09-23 02:07:20 PM  
Hannah raising Harrison makes perfect sense to me.  Harrison may have been "born in blood" just like his father.  If Dexter is not going to raise his potentially serial killer son, who better than a serial killer?
 
2013-09-23 02:16:22 PM  
I gave at least 95 hours of my life to Dexter, and this is how I'm repaid? I watched faithfully for 8 seasons. I understand the gripes that most have over the latter half of the show's run, and I don't argue with the sloppy writing or some of the pointless, dead end story lines, but I've always understood that this is a tv show. I didn't need everything to translate to the real world. But to finish with Dexter becoming mountain man is a pretty terrible way to reward the fans who've stuck by the show all these years. I don't even think it needed a gigantic finale. There weren't a lot of questions to answer, and there wasn't anything that needed further explanation. This show wasn't about the destination. It was about the journey. Yet, I find myself disappointed, because i can think of 15 different endings that would have been more satisfying.
 
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