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(Huffington Post)   RAND PAUL: Yeah....the party is pretty much hosed with this impossible defunding Obamacare thing. Welp, it was both a pleasure and a nightmare knowing you people   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 147
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2013-09-23 08:11:57 AM  
13 votes:
As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters
2013-09-23 11:08:31 AM  
11 votes:

phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.


Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.
2013-09-23 10:34:06 AM  
7 votes:
This is what happens when you send faux-ideologues to Congress, as opposed to competent legislators.

I get it. Folks are upset that the Libbiest Libs Who Ever Libbed a Lib have seats, and a President who speaks softly and lets you hit yourselves with your own stick, but at some point, maybe folks might want to STOP giving them ammunition to dun you with. Especially when the plan you oppose so much, was the pretty much the plan that you put forward a few years ago, and your Presidential nominee actually signed into law already.

I am NOT a fan of the ACA. It is a giveaway to the insurance industry, though less of one that Romney put forward in Mass--and perhaps THAT is the real feature that folks who are leading this "fight" have: it doesn't just give huge amounts of government cash directly to the middlemen to dole out at their leisure and a huge opportunities to turn that cash into interest elsewhere. It is still an awfully big giveaway that we might better use by not shuffling it between bank to bank to bank, and maybe actually see it in circulation. That was the modification that got it to pass though, and it still offers a better course than: hope y'all don't get sick and die. There's still a lot to do: mental health care in the nation has been gutted, jobs are still sparse, and the current model for "growth" apparently is more of the same house of cards shuffling and an assisted market model that only benefits a few, as opposed to opening up markets for real competition. For folks who claim that they want to see a free market, they are digging their heels in damn hard to prevent real competition and actual entrepreneurs to enter said markets. Coupled with a damning "law and order" mentality that shackles local, state, and the Fed to wasting millions upon untold millions on keeping a dollars flowing to private prisons, attorneys, and a seizure plan that allows looting of the public coffers and skimming directly from human misery, and we have some issues still to deal with at home, and yet, folks seem bent on getting us involved in every conflict across the globe, and then cry and wail when someone suggests something that WON'T get a lot of folks killed, and wail when the President might actually take a firm line. Then again, it does go back to the idea that mental health care is in serious jeopardy in this nation, and sadly, more than a few of our legislators, despite being well covered at this point for such care, they won't avail themselves to it, and their families are loathe to get them committed to save not just themselves, but the nation that they imperil....
2013-09-23 10:30:32 AM  
7 votes:
Defeating the GOP on this front is bigger than just the ACA.

If they set a precedent where they can just defund any law they don't happen to like, then no law is sacred. They can use the budget to punish their political enemies for passing laws they disagree with.

Our government is broken beyond repair
2013-09-23 09:43:49 AM  
7 votes:
Its fascinating watching the GOP destroy themselves over the ACA. I think they're more upset that Obama beat them than they are about the legislation itself.
2013-09-23 08:22:22 AM  
7 votes:

CPT Ethanolic: Even better sitting out here in Afghanistan and having your pay suddenly stop. Makes managing things at home from thousands of miles away REAL easy.


I can't imagine how "easy" it is. Maybe we could put you in Congress and send them over there...nah, that would never work. They'd shiat their pants waaaaaaaay before they even got on the plane
2013-09-23 08:18:02 AM  
7 votes:

somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters


Even better sitting out here in Afghanistan and having your pay suddenly stop.  Makes managing things at home from thousands of miles away REAL easy.
2013-09-23 10:05:56 AM  
6 votes:

Ned Stark: In what sense did conservatives lose?


The party is irreparably shattered, like a plane breaking up in flight. Don't confuse their continued momentum with actual control.
2013-09-23 09:57:35 AM  
5 votes:

Mrbogey: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?


Describe one thing that Obama has done that has "Screwed you over". Not something you THINK he's done, or not something you are afraid will happen, one real life example.
2013-09-23 12:26:46 PM  
4 votes:

phenn: As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.


Look, I pay my taxes (which apparently pay my salary...which in turn gets taxes taken out to pay my salary....) and I give back to my country through the civil service (government work) so fark you. I have a real job. I'm a civilian researcher for the military. You'd be amazed just how much private work comes from government contracts. So pull your head out of your ass and realize that, yes, government employees are real people dealing with the same shiat as you, we just have Congress dictate our pay and when we work and not a CEO.
2013-09-23 12:25:59 PM  
4 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: theknuckler_33: Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown? Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well? Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.

Yes, they draw my ire as well. I realize the whole thing is showtime to house republicans.

But people who work for the government, the very ones to be affected by a shutdown, can't be upset about this 'showtime'?

"Fark you, pay me" is a remark that is blooming with self-interest. Funny how people are dogpiling me for my own self-interest.


No you troll, its "fark you, pay me for the work you are asking me to do. No one gets a free lunch and I gotta eat too."
2013-09-23 11:19:24 AM  
4 votes:

phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.


Then why in god's name are you biatching about taxes in the US, if you've already abandoned the country?

Also, psst, psst. Costa Rica provides universal healthcare.

Meaning they're taking money from you, and using 'the fruit of your labor' to keep other people from dying. Why in god's name did you flee somewhere arguably *even more socialist* if you're pissed about folks 'taking the fruit of your labor'?
2013-09-23 11:08:02 AM  
4 votes:

phenn: Dimensio: phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.

I assume, then, that you eschew use of all public roads, and of all goods transported on public roads.

You pretty much assume correctly. I live out in the pucker brush these days and no one fixes the roads here.


YOU'RE SAYING THIS ON THE INTERNET YOU DOLT!
2013-09-23 10:19:05 AM  
4 votes:

Ned Stark: Weaver95: I have conservative friends who still cannot accept that they've lost this fight. They refuse to accept that Obama won.

In what sense did conservatives lose? Their opponents adopted heritage foundation insanity as their health plan and then ran it across the goal line. Even now with only the house in their hands the most you can say is that conservatives probably wont be able to fark it up even more.

Liberals, uhhhh... didn't look as silly?


I agree with you yet the conservatives certainly act as if they've been pounded into the dirt and pissed upon.

It's like the chemical weapons in Syria.   Peacefully removing the weapons from Syria is about the best outcome the international community could hope, and we've got people biatching about how Putin somehow embarrassed the U.S. as if it would be better to risk soldiers lives and kill civilians just to make Putin look bad.
2013-09-23 10:10:55 AM  
4 votes:

fsud: sprawl15: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

I was promised by fox news dot com that the sequester was actually going to be good for the country because...well, I don't think they gave a reason, I think they just pointed out that Obama didn't want it so it had to be good, but yeah. That's good enough for me and mine.

Obama didn't want the sequester?

It was his idea, of course he wanted it.

I'm told on Fark by FarkLibs at least five times a day that Barack "BOBby Fisher" Obama plays 4th dimension chess. He new the sequester was bad, and new Dim's wouldn't be n'sync with R's on a deal. It stands to reason that new kids on the block of the TeaPartyPatriots wouldn't extend the debt ceiling again, as America shouldn't, but Obama new they wouldn't.

When all that happens there is only one direction to go he will institute martial sharia law and appoint himself King as America burns under 98 degrees heat next summer. At that point theres no turning back. Street boys in the new black panthers will run our local governments.


Son, I knew StopArrestingMe. StopArrestingMe is a friend of mine.

You're no StopArrestingMe.
2013-09-23 09:53:43 AM  
4 votes:

KingKauff: I find it amusing that the people who are against RomneyObamacare are the ones who won't even need it.


Makes sense tho. To evangecals, helping the sick/poor means you encourage moral weakness. I didn't say that sort of things makes sense mind you, only that the GOP belief structure is farked
2013-09-23 09:49:00 AM  
4 votes:
When Rand Paul is starting to sound like the voice of reason, your party is in trouble.
2013-09-23 12:47:35 PM  
3 votes:

BorgiaGinz: Mrbogey: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?

You don't know anything about how DC works, do you? For one thing, federal workers make lower wages than the standard for comparable positions in private industry. You want to know who makes the real money in our area? It's private contractors like SAIC, CACI, and Booz Allen, located across in Northern Virginia, not DC, who make the serious dough.
When mopes like you complain about "fatcat government workers", people who actually live and work here know you're full of shiat.


Well to be fair what they are mostly complaining about is government workers benefits. Benefits like comprehensive health care including vision and dental, disability insurance, life insurance, the large amount of vacation and sick time that we get. They also complain about government workers unions which are still strong and still protect those benefits. Mostly they are jealous and feel that everyone should eat the shiat sandwich that they have to eat in the private sector.

It's okay though, because if the forced me to go private sector I'd earn about 2 maybe 3 times what I earn now, but I sure would miss those 26 vacation days a year, flex time, and working in a supportive non-competitive environment. I've worked the private sector and while the pay is better the stress, hyper aggressive competition, and hostile work environment keeps me here.
2013-09-23 12:20:13 PM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: Jairzinho: FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!

Actually, no. If the dems, libs, and Farklibs would simply listen to what the Teabaggers are saying, maybe there wouldn't be so many misconceptions.

The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.


A) Stop trying to make BOB "a thing". You are embarrassing yourself.

B) The GOP is working towards nothing but hurting Obama.

C) Farklib isn't "a thing" either and makes no sense w/ regard to "FARK Conservatives"

D) Even Forbes magazine says calling Obamacare a "job killer" is a gross misrepresentation.

E) What is it with you guys and all the "forced down our throats: talk anyway?
2013-09-23 11:51:16 AM  
3 votes:
So, the strategerie is

1. make the gop in general seem as barking-mad crazy as possible

2. Run as a POTUS candidate as a republican who unlike those guys actually cares for the needy and dispossed. A "compassionate conservative" as it were.

Gee, where have I seen this scam before?

ts4.mm.bing.net
2013-09-23 11:26:51 AM  
3 votes:

phenn: There is a government-underwritten health care system here called CAJA. It benefits the residents and citizens - not emigrants. It is funded by a consumption (sales) tax and works well for those who use it. For those who do not, health care is cheap. VERY cheap. Because the government doesn't poke its collective arse into everything under the sun, patient care, medication, etc is affordable.


I wonder if the health care is very cheap because the vast majority of the health care consumers are on a single payer system.

Nah, that can't be it.
2013-09-23 11:23:46 AM  
3 votes:

phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.


So a "real job" can only come from the private sector, huh?  Police, firefighters, and soldiers don't have real jobs?  We should just abolish all government--local, state, and federal--and turn into an anarchic mess because you don't like that, in order to function, governments require workers, which are in turn paid by tax dollars?  That's pretty stupid, don't you think?

The idea that a modern society can run without tax dollars and that you shouldn't be required to pay your fair share for even the most basic of services you take for granted, such as roads, is ridiculous.  Stop being dense.
2013-09-23 11:02:52 AM  
3 votes:

phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.


I assume, then, that you eschew use of all public roads, and of all goods transported on public roads.
2013-09-23 09:29:09 AM  
3 votes:

Diogenes: "I'm acknowledging we can't probably defeat or get rid of Obamacare," he said. "But by starting with our position of not funding it, maybe we get to a position where we make it less bad."

Umm...yeahhh.  I'd really like to know how you get from point A to B.


It may not be about Obamacare at all, I think they want the Keystone XL pipeline built.
2013-09-23 08:50:12 AM  
3 votes:
Well shutting down the government would interfere with the Medicare payments his medical practice depends on
2013-09-23 01:58:38 PM  
2 votes:

Phinn: HeartBurnKid: the Republicans are planning to shutdown the government and crash the economy

The government is not the economy.

The government is not doing much at all, except taking credit for the economic productivity of others.  It's what parasites do.


Oh, go Galt yourself you big baby.
2013-09-23 12:46:14 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown? Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well? Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.

Yes, they draw my ire as well. I realize the whole thing is showtime to house republicans.


If the people whose jobs are being held hostage - instead of those people who are holding their job hostage - draw your ire, you, little biatch, are nothing more than a sociopath.  Kindly EABOD and DIAF.

Put simply:  what if we made it so that your job and paycheck was contingent on us being able to bomb France?  Would you just shut up and take it, or would you complain your ass off?
2013-09-23 12:38:34 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: People who work for the government are paid by taxpayers who have no say in how much is paid or anything else.


You don't have a say in nearly any private sector business as to how much people are paid or anything else either; I don't demand Southwest to pay their pilots better because 'I pay their salary', and such a line of argument would seem outright silly to anyone listening. In fact, by virtue of the government being susceptible to legislative demands (rather than boardroom demands), the say you have in government employment is far greater than in the private sector. In the private sector, your only recourse is often a personal decision to boycott.

phenn: If I cannot find project work, I don't get paid. That is on me. No one is being forced to pay me.


If you cannot find project work because of your inability as an employee, you get fired. It's the same in the public sector. If you cannot find project work because of your employer's inability to get work, the employer is dissolved. Again, the same in the public sector.

The only real distinction is for required work where substandard service becomes mimetic (like the DMV). In those cases one could argue that they aren't being required to meet a high standard, but that's a very, very different argument than the one you're making via blanket statements like your OP.
2013-09-23 12:29:58 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: theknuckler_33: Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown? Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well? Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.

Yes, they draw my ire as well. I realize the whole thing is showtime to house republicans.

But people who work for the government, the very ones to be affected by a shutdown, can't be upset about this 'showtime'?

"Fark you, pay me" is a remark that is blooming with self-interest. Funny how people are dogpiling me for my own self-interest.


Except that's not what was said, it was "I have bills to pay and you're not helping." I fail to see how worrying about the ramifications of suddenly having no job for an indeterminate amount of time just so some group can use you as leverage to get what they want is the fault of the employee.  You're simply reading into this what you want.
2013-09-23 12:26:03 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.

So, no taxes or government where you live?

No. There is no government here. No taxes and no civilization. I live in a tree and am typing this on a coconut. When the sun sets, I can hear the sounds of savages hunting crocodiles in the pitch.

YES, GENIUS. There is a government and there are taxes. Why do people insist on asking absurd questions?


OK Honest answer?

We want a laugh at the responses. Because you've taken a hilariously absurd position on the whole "taxes are stealing the fruits of my labor" thing and we're all pretty certain there's no way you have the intellectual integrity to admit that it's ridiculous and will instead say increasingly more ridiculous things to defend it. It helps pass the time.
2013-09-23 12:24:56 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: "Fark you, pay me" is a remark that is blooming with self-interest. Funny how people are dogpiling me for my own self-interest.


"Fark you, pay me for the work I do" is distinct from "Fark you, pay me for existing". The reason people are dogpiling is that you're equating the former with the latter solely because the employer is the government. You feel 'entitled' to the money you earn through your labor, yet criticize them for the money they feel they're 'entitled' to through their labor.
2013-09-23 12:19:30 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown? Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well? Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.

Yes, they draw my ire as well. I realize the whole thing is showtime to house republicans.


But people who work for the government, the very ones to be affected by a shutdown, can't be upset about this 'showtime'?
2013-09-23 12:14:10 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.

Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.

But, this is FARK. And, here is where people come to create arguments out of thin air, using the most absurd nonsense they can pull out of their arses.

I'll get over it.


Sounds like you are reading your own biases into the comment. It is quoted just below the post I'm quoting. It is obviously displaying anger over the fact that there are radical nutjobs trying to defund a law that was passed by both houses of congress, signed by the president (who was reelected), and found constitutional by the supreme court, by sacrificng the rank and file government worker's ability to provide for their family. It really sucks to have your job held hostage by a bunch of clowns having a temper tantrum. It also sucks to have to work and not get paid until they decide to work out a solution.

I guess you never saw a 10-20 percent reduction in income, not because of your performance, but because your bosses can't get their crap together. Then again it is quite clear you believe all government employees are overpaid, lazy people stealing your money by sucking the government's teat and not hard working Americans providing a much need public service, sacrificing the opportunity for higher lifetime earnings in many fields. (Scientists, doctors, lawyers, and economists all make wayyyyyy more in the private sector)
2013-09-23 12:10:21 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.


You don't want to pay him for the work he does, and he's the taker.  Riiiiiiiight.
2013-09-23 12:07:42 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.


The fact that he wants to get paid for doing his job makes you think he's a taker?
2013-09-23 12:06:55 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: I have conservative friends who still cannot accept that they've lost this fight. They refuse to accept that Obama won.


Good! Take pleasure from their hate. Take sheer delight in watching the cruel and the stupid raging in futile outrage of their crushing defeat. To watch the bad guys lose is wonderful. To watch them continue to sputter and seethe even a year later is a delicious rare wine to savor.

iruntheinternet.com
2013-09-23 12:05:53 PM  
2 votes:

unexplained bacon: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

What a stupid thing to say.
'cause there are no 'real' jobs in government work

No real roads
No real work to be done in veterans affairs.
Nothing to be done in order to get social security checks out to the folks who rely on them.

Nope government workers = bad

/as someone who works a private sector job that relies on government doing their job I can say people who think like you are clueless about just how varied, worthwhile and important government work can be.
//pay attention


Yeah, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what has the Government ever done for us?
2013-09-23 12:04:54 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.


Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown?  Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well?  Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.
2013-09-23 12:02:21 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.

Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.

But, this is FARK. And, here is where people come to create arguments out of thin air, using the most absurd nonsense they can pull out of their arses.

I'll get over it.


You have no idea what he does. Maybe he processed the passport that let you get on the plane to Costa Rica. Maybe, he's an FDA inspector. Maybe he's a cop, a firefighter or a soldier. You just heard "Works for government" and decided that he was a taker.
2013-09-23 12:02:15 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.


Right. It's everyone else's fault that your statements that government jobs aren't real and that you shouldn't have to pay taxes were interpreted that way. You poor trod-upon little thing.
2013-09-23 12:00:12 PM  
2 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.

So, no taxes or government where you live?

No. There is no government here. No taxes and no civilization. I live in a tree and am typing this on a coconut. When the sun sets, I can hear the sounds of savages hunting crocodiles in the pitch.

YES, GENIUS. There is a government and there are taxes. Why do people insist on asking absurd questions?


So what's the end game of your  "NO ONE DESERVES THE FRUIT OF MY LABOR" whargarble?

Obviously SOMEONE deserves it, just not Americans?

The end game of your "Taxes are theft" bullshiat is a feudal society where the rich have huge armies to protect themselves and the poor routinely starve to death. I know you're thinking "That's ok, I'm a Job Creator. I'd be rich. fark those poors." The problem with that- very often the rich would get TOO rich, and someone would get a bigger army and take their stuff, or the poor would get too poor and have nothing left to lose, so they'd burn your castle down.
2013-09-23 11:59:05 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.


Oh, so you're spiteful to the point of derangement, and oddly enough have a very strong notion of entitlement. That's cool.
2013-09-23 11:40:52 AM  
2 votes:

Fart_Machine: BMulligan: Fart_Machine: phenn: jigger: Just because this guy (somedude) feels entitled to a steady, uninterrupted stream of your money (collected by immoral means) doesn't mean that he actually is.

Thank you. This was the point I attempted to make and did a piss poor job of doing so.

Your point is that you're a complete idiot?

That's not fair. I've seen no evidence that she's an idiot. Like many sociopaths, she appears to be rather clever.

I tend to group the "taxes are theft" crowd as being morons.


you'd pretty much have to be an idiot, we can all argue about how much money and how robust the  social services and military  should be done but you really have to be a dumbass to not understand that the money has to come from somewhere.
2013-09-23 11:33:04 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: Felgraf: Also, psst, psst. Costa Rica provides universal healthcare.

You would be partially correct.

There is a government-underwritten health care system here called CAJA. It benefits the residents and citizens - not emigrants. It is funded by a consumption (sales) tax and works well for those who use it. For those who do not, health care is cheap. VERY cheap. Because the government doesn't poke its collective arse into everything under the sun, patient care, medication, etc is affordable.


"In 1973, the CCSS took over administration of all 29 of the country's public hospitals and all health care"
2013-09-23 11:30:38 AM  
2 votes:

Fart_Machine: phenn: jigger: Just because this guy (somedude) feels entitled to a steady, uninterrupted stream of your money (collected by immoral means) doesn't mean that he actually is.

Thank you. This was the point I attempted to make and did a piss poor job of doing so.

Your point is that you're a complete idiot?


That's not fair. I've seen no evidence that she's an idiot. Like many sociopaths, she appears to be rather clever.
2013-09-23 11:24:01 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: verbaltoxin: Alright, tell us what bastion of free living and stateless liberty you relocated to?

Costa Rica. Far from perfect, but a good life.

I get a lot of people here who say things like 'then, why do you care?' So, to make it clear, I still have children in the states and what happens there affects them. Hence, I care.


Perhaps, but if you live in Costa Rica, you are no longer "Paying salaries like [his]".

You are also paying for the healthcare of people that are not you, so, sorry buddy, they're still stealing 'the fruits of your labor'.  Whatever your labor may be.

Perhaps I came off a bit harshly, but if everyone thought the way you did, we A) Wouldn't have gone to the moon, B) Probably wouldn't have eliminated smallpox and polio. Not because ZOMG THE PHARMACUTICAL CONSPIRACY because it kind of takes a pretty massive public funding/works effort to get mass vaccinations done.

And that's just two small, quick examples.
2013-09-23 11:21:03 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.


That isn't necessary. He pays taxes like everyone else does,  purchases goods like everyone else does, and performs a service to this country. Like it or not, there are some government jobs that society needs to function.

Get off your high horse.
2013-09-23 11:20:26 AM  
2 votes:

verbaltoxin: phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.

Alright, tell us what bastion of free living and stateless liberty you relocated to?


His profile claims Costa Rica.

You know, one of the countries with Universal Health Care.
2013-09-23 11:19:52 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.


Real job? So government employees don't have real jobs? Police officers, fire fighters, public teachers, university scientific researchers, public physicians and nurses, public economists, military servicemembers...

None of these are real jobs?
2013-09-23 11:07:29 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: Dimensio: phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.

I assume, then, that you eschew use of all public roads, and of all goods transported on public roads.

You pretty much assume correctly. I live out in the pucker brush these days and no one fixes the roads here.


Please describe the means by which you built your own computer from base raw materials and how you personally arranged and financed creation of the communication and power lines through which your computer operates.
2013-09-23 11:04:13 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.


Leaving aside the fact that you obviously didn't make it to the chapter on externalities and have therefore conveniently avoided all the times that YOU live off other people's labor the bigger issue is that what kind of grubby poverty stricken little shiat complains about taxes. Just earn more money you sorry excuse for a bootstrappy job creator.
2013-09-23 10:50:22 AM  
2 votes:

phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.


I am certain that your criticism is well-reasoned, and is based upon a full understanding of somedude210's specific employment, and not upon any irrational prejudices of your own.
2013-09-23 10:47:15 AM  
2 votes:

Graffito: Ned Stark: Weaver95: I have conservative friends who still cannot accept that they've lost this fight. They refuse to accept that Obama won.

In what sense did conservatives lose? Their opponents adopted heritage foundation insanity as their health plan and then ran it across the goal line. Even now with only the house in their hands the most you can say is that conservatives probably wont be able to fark it up even more.

Liberals, uhhhh... didn't look as silly?

I agree with you yet the conservatives certainly act as if they've been pounded into the dirt and pissed upon.

It's like the chemical weapons in Syria.   Peacefully removing the weapons from Syria is about the best outcome the international community could hope, and we've got people biatching about how Putin somehow embarrassed the U.S. as if it would be better to risk soldiers lives and kill civilians just to make Putin look bad.


Considering that Syria is a Russian client-state, it has ALWAYS been up to the Russians to clean up that particular mess, too. That they've been dragging their feet on this for nearly two years isn't exactly a "embarrassing" the US. It is the usual hemming and hawing that the UN community has been doing for generations, and the clucking of tongues, and hoping that someone(else) will do something that none of them have the courage or wherewithal to do themselves. Getting the Russians to finally address the issue, by forcing it with the potential to have said client-state bombed to sh*t while there is a civil war on, possibly destabilizing a fairly delicate dance to keep their boy in power so that their contractors and business interests will be firmly protected, that was not a pretty bit of theater, but it worked.  And all the while, that the supposed foreign policy geniuses who KNOW we have NO legitimate interests in the region were trying to come up with reasons that ANY action we took would make this President look weak. The entire hue and cry on this crisis was nothing but shameless opportunism, and it only made the GOP look even weaker and more shrill, while trying desperately to look "most punkest!" at the same time.

When I was bouncing, it was always the guy who talked the loudest, screamed the most, boasted the most, and derided everyone who curled up like CheezDoodle when things actually got to the point where action was required. At this point, the shrillness telegraphs a huge amount of what these folks actually have in the tank for a real fight. And afterwards, these loudmouths were the first to blame ANYONE else for their performance, and at this point, the parallels are far too similar for me to have much respect for the endless stream of armchair quarterbacks....
2013-09-23 10:33:16 AM  
2 votes:
Is it just me or has everything conservatives have tried to do in the last 15 years ended in failure?  And managed to cost the public trillions.  Iraq?  Afghanistan?  Fighting Obamacare?  Trying to manage the US economy.

Is there anything they are capable of beyond pooping their pants?  I realize that they are all intentionally ignorant, but they must have gotten something right over the last two decades.

/getting morons to vote for you is not success, it just means that you are from a red state
2013-09-23 10:13:32 AM  
2 votes:

fsud: sprawl15: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

I was promised by fox news dot com that the sequester was actually going to be good for the country because...well, I don't think they gave a reason, I think they just pointed out that Obama didn't want it so it had to be good, but yeah. That's good enough for me and mine.

Obama didn't want the sequester?

It was his idea, of course he wanted it.

I'm told on Fark by FarkLibs at least five times a day that Barack "BOBby Fisher" Obama plays 4th dimension chess. He new the sequester was bad, and new Dim's wouldn't be n'sync with R's on a deal. It stands to reason that new kids on the block of the TeaPartyPatriots wouldn't extend the debt ceiling again, as America shouldn't, but Obama new they wouldn't.

When all that happens there is only one direction to go he will institute martial sharia law and appoint himself King as America burns under 98 degrees heat next summer. At that point theres no turning back. Street boys in the new black panthers will run our local governments.


I served with StopArrestingMe. I knew StopArrestingMe. StopArrestingMe was a friend of mine. fsud, you're no StopArrestingMe.
2013-09-23 09:54:25 AM  
2 votes:

KingKauff: I find it amusing that the people who are against RomneyObamacare are the ones who won't even need it.


Lowering the number of people who use the ER as primary care, making sure everyone is vaccinated will help everyone. Doing away with pre-existing condition denials and lifetime limits will help most people.
2013-09-23 09:53:40 AM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Its fascinating watching the GOP destroy themselves over the ACA. I think they're more upset that Obama beat them than they are about the legislation itself.


That's exactly it. The GOP is throwing a temper tantrum because a Democrat got elected.
2013-09-23 09:51:03 AM  
2 votes:
I find it amusing that the people who are against RomneyObamacare are the ones who won't even need it.
2013-09-23 09:50:03 AM  
2 votes:
I have conservative friends who still cannot accept that they've lost this fight. They refuse to accept that Obama won.
2013-09-23 09:47:39 AM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Its fascinating watching the GOP destroy themselves over the ACA. I think they're more upset that Obama beat them than they are about the legislation itself.


I'd bet it's a lot more that Obama keeps pitching traditionally Republican ideas. It's kind of hard to play partisan politics when he's just reading out of their book from 10-20 years ago.
2013-09-23 09:45:35 AM  
2 votes:
This is RAND PAUL trying to salvage his 2016 Presidential run.  Ted Cruz is going full derp ahead on this, and so RAND PAUL wants to be able to just sit back, let Cruz destroy himself, and then move in on his supporters.
2013-09-23 09:41:47 AM  
2 votes:

KarmicDisaster: Only one third support it? Or is that a quote of what he "believes".


Depends on the phrasing. "Do you support the socialist Obamacare takeover?" polls much lower than "Do you support ?".
2013-09-23 09:39:10 AM  
2 votes:
These tards should cut their own benefits and premium health care first... show us how it is done; tea pots. Then I'll listen to them about cutting mine.

Also "Paul said Republicans still expect members to fight the law, which national polls show only about a third of Americans support. "

Only one third support it? Or is that a quote of what he "believes".
2013-09-23 09:29:43 AM  
2 votes:
I love watching my government fight tooth and nail for years just to get to the starting point of governing.
2013-09-23 08:28:23 AM  
2 votes:

somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters


I was promised by fox news dot com that the sequester was actually going to be good for the country because...well, I don't think they gave a reason, I think they just pointed out that Obama didn't want it so it had to be good, but yeah. That's good enough for me and mine.
2013-09-23 06:42:04 PM  
1 votes:
phenn:

Don't farking lie about what I've said. Don't make shiat up. It's not helping your side of any debate or conversation. Cool?

Other posters have not been kind to you in this thread, this is true.  This is not helping in any way (the left usually has facts and reality on its side and should use them instead of sinking down to a lower level), as being rude and creating personal attack distracts from the issue at hand, which in this case is an unrealistic idea of how governments and their employes should/do function.  However, remember the very first thing you contributed to this thread was an attack on someone because he was concerned about his job security.  You assumed that his job wasn't a "real" one and decided to attack whatever he did for a living without knowing any details of his employment.  That, combined with the way you present your interpretation of the role of government (which is naive, to be polite, but maybe it's just your delivery), has likely contributed to the hostile conversation.

I imagine Costa Rica is nice, but it's quite an easy place to move to once you've worked in the states for a couple of decades.  Living expenses are very cheap for someone of the industrialized world.  I sincerely doubt you would have moved there before you reaped the benefits of your American career and education.
2013-09-23 02:48:37 PM  
1 votes:
It'd be great if all the other asshole, moron "libertarians" (but I repeat myself) would also move to some other country. I would appreciate that.
2013-09-23 01:34:43 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: jigger: Just because this guy (somedude) feels entitled to a steady, uninterrupted stream of your money (collected by immoral means) doesn't mean that he actually is.

Thank you. This was the point I attempted to make and did a piss poor job of doing so.


No, you did OK.
It's just a piss-poor point.
2013-09-23 01:24:02 PM  
1 votes:

Dutch Pilsner: Slaves2Darkness: Muta: Aristocles: You know, it's annoying how pathetic the Farklibs are getting on this issue. You know you can't defend BOB's dud, so you try to change the subject.

Who is Bob?

Bob.
Bob's your uncle.
Uncle Sam.
President of the United States Barack Obama.
Barack OBama.
BOB

That's pretty silly.


Poor Aristocles...

lh3.googleusercontent.com
2013-09-23 12:54:05 PM  
1 votes:

Mike_1962: thurstonxhowell: phenn: thurstonxhowell: I really, really want to know Phenn's occupation.

She's a mother. They know best, no matter how mind bogglingly stupid the things they say are.

I have been a creative director for 25+ years. These days, I work for myself.

Next question?

How long do you think Costa Rica would remain an independent state if the US military did not exist?

Well, I don't believe you currently provide them with much. About 21 million in total aid since 2009. That includes everything. Prior to 2009 I believe they received little or nothing since they resisted US demands that all US citizens should have ICC immunity.


Costa Rica doesn't have its own military and has over 20% of it's claim to territory disputed by Nicaragua. Absent a super-power just to their north to make sure they abide by the ICC's decisions about where the boundary was between their two nations, I'm thinking Nicaragua might settle that dispute pretty quickly.
2013-09-23 12:53:58 PM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: Old and Busted: Farklibs defending the dems and attacking the GOP with arguments.

New Hotness: Call everyone a troll, then attack each other for responding to the supposed "troll."
 
Good for you, Farklibs.


That's because us poor liberals don't get daily talking points, so we are stuck with our own individual opinions and sometimes disagree with with other
2013-09-23 12:51:47 PM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: *plonk*

/I guess all it takes is a woman with an opinion to out the Farklib sexists.


Show us on the doll where Bob touched you.
2013-09-23 12:50:44 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: sprawl15: phenn: "Fark you, pay me" is a remark that is blooming with self-interest. Funny how people are dogpiling me for my own self-interest.

"Fark you, pay me for the work I do" is distinct from "Fark you, pay me for existing". The reason people are dogpiling is that you're equating the former with the latter solely because the employer is the government. You feel 'entitled' to the money you earn through your labor, yet criticize them for the money they feel they're 'entitled' to through their labor.

So, an impasse?

There is a slight difference not to be missed. People who work for the government are paid by taxpayers who have no say in how much is paid or anything else. If I do a crap job, I don't get paid. If I cannot find project work, I don't get paid. That is on me. No one is being forced to pay me. Unlike him.


Should have picked a different profession, stop being so jealous.
2013-09-23 12:50:14 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: cameroncrazy1984: SpectroBoy: phenn: verbaltoxin: Alright, tell us what bastion of free living and stateless liberty you relocated to?

Costa Rica. Far from perfect, but a good life.

I get a lot of people here who say things like 'then, why do you care?' So, to make it clear, I still have children in the states and what happens there affects them. Hence, I care.

You know Costa Rica has universal health care right?

And a lot more socialism and government than the US has. I wonder if he went to Costa Rica on Rush's suggestion?

May I ask where you got this information?


All you need to know is that there's government-run insurance available to anyone who wants it That right there is more socialism than the US has.
2013-09-23 12:46:57 PM  
1 votes:

Ned Stark: Weaver95: I have conservative friends who still cannot accept that they've lost this fight. They refuse to accept that Obama won.

In what sense did conservatives lose? Their opponents adopted heritage foundation insanity as their health plan and then ran it across the goal line. Even now with only the house in their hands the most you can say is that conservatives probably wont be able to fark it up even more.

Liberals, uhhhh... didn't look as silly?


They lost because they never actually wanted it passed.

The plan was only put forth to try and prevent greater health reform, especially with the hope of debating the poinnt until things change and they can put the whole issue to rest.

It was, at best, the lesser of two evils in their minds. But still evil.
2013-09-23 12:45:39 PM  
1 votes:

what_now: phenn: It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.

The fact that he wants to get paid for doing his job makes you think he's a taker?


that and I just want to do my job without having to worry that Washington is going to delay that or outright fark with it. As it is, we can barely schedule projects to go beyond the fiscal year because we don't know what the hell we have for money because the government has been running on FY2010 budgetary numbers for the last 4 years
2013-09-23 12:45:00 PM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: SpectroBoy: Aristocles: The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.

[www.acrossnowhere.net image 624x200]
Stop trying to make BOB happen.
It's NOT going to happen.

Who's the blonde?


A viable meme.
2013-09-23 12:38:25 PM  
1 votes:

hubiestubert:  a President who speaks softly and lets you hit yourselves with your own stick


That is beautiful.
2013-09-23 12:37:10 PM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?


You don't know anything about how DC works, do you? For one thing, federal workers make lower wages than the standard for comparable positions in private industry. You want to know who makes the real money in our area? It's private contractors like SAIC, CACI, and Booz Allen, located across in Northern Virginia, not DC, who make the serious dough.
When mopes like you complain about "fatcat government workers", people who actually live and work here know you're full of shiat.
2013-09-23 12:34:20 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: theknuckler_33: Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown? Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well? Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.

Yes, they draw my ire as well. I realize the whole thing is showtime to house republicans.

But people who work for the government, the very ones to be affected by a shutdown, can't be upset about this 'showtime'?

"Fark you, pay me" is a remark that is blooming with self-interest. Funny how people are dogpiling me for my own self-interest.


It's more because you're telling someone with supposed self-interest "I disagree with your self-interest while my self-interest is much more important". We all have self-interest, but his has nothing to do with yours.
2013-09-23 12:30:01 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: theknuckler_33: Perhaps you could actually realize that, you know, no one is trying to actually get rid of his job. They are holding it hostage for political purposes. I would imagine that people who work for parts of the government that have nothing to do with healthcare might feel entitled to have their job unaffected by political brinksmanship. I wonder how many 'real job' holders who work in the private sector are worried about their contracts being affected by a potential shutdown? Do they also draw your ire? Or what about the businesses that THOSE contractors purchase goods and services from that also might now be in jeopardy... are THEY worthy of scorn as well? Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.

Yes, they draw my ire as well. I realize the whole thing is showtime to house republicans.

But people who work for the government, the very ones to be affected by a shutdown, can't be upset about this 'showtime'?

"Fark you, pay me" is a remark that is blooming with self-interest. Funny how people are dogpiling me for my own self-interest.


Not for your own self-interest, for your derpy interpretation of his OP.  I'll say it again: Our entire society is ENTITLED to a government that can function without pushing the entire farking thing off a cliff.
2013-09-23 12:26:56 PM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: theknuckler_33: You're the one who started accusing people of being smug.

And you're not doing a very good job disproving it. If you have a problem with what I actually said, bring it up. Otherwise you're still just typing a lot without actually saying anything - you know, what I originally accused you of.


It is amusing for sprawl15 to accuse theknuckler_33 of being smug for something he wrote to phenn when phenn was being smug with the whole "I paid your salary, government worker... get a real job" derp. Since you just jumped in somewhere in the middle, I guess you didn't bother to see what was going on before using your own smugness to smugly accuse me of being smug. In other words, you're the smuggiest smugger who ever smugged.

/smug
2013-09-23 12:23:28 PM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: Old and Busted: Farklibs defending the dems and attacking the GOP with arguments.

New Hotness: Call everyone a troll, then attack each other for responding to the supposed "troll."
 
Good for you, Farklibs.


Old and Busted: Fark Conservatards who actually funny

New Hotness: Fark Conservatrd trolls who are such a bore that I ignore them

Good for you, you've somehow lowered the bar when it was already on the ground.

GaryPDX, this is for you.
2013-09-23 12:22:06 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: what_now: phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.

Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.

But, this is FARK. And, here is where people come to create arguments out of thin air, using the most absurd nonsense they can pull out of their arses.

I'll get over it.

You have no idea what he does. Maybe he processed the passport that let you get on the plane to Costa Rica. Maybe, he's an FDA inspector. Maybe he's a cop, a firefighter or a soldier. You just heard "Works for government" and decided that he was a taker.

No. Wrong.

It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.


So you are a tea tard?
2013-09-23 12:21:07 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: what_now: phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.

Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.

But, this is FARK. And, here is where people come to create arguments out of thin air, using the most absurd nonsense they can pull out of their arses.

I'll get over it.

You have no idea what he does. Maybe he processed the passport that let you get on the plane to Costa Rica. Maybe, he's an FDA inspector. Maybe he's a cop, a firefighter or a soldier. You just heard "Works for government" and decided that he was a taker.

No. Wrong.

It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.


Rewind to last week when Boehner and the House GOP were set to temporarily raise the Debt Ceiling until December 15th and it was the Tea Party faction that torpedo'd that plan in favor of shutting down the government in order to force the de-funding of the ACA.  So if a government shutdown happens and this person you're vehemently against can't pay their bills, it is the direct result of the Tea Party's actions.  In what world would that NOT result in anger?
2013-09-23 12:18:33 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Weaver95: I have conservative friends who still cannot accept that they've lost this fight. They refuse to accept that Obama won.

Good! Take pleasure from their hate. Take sheer delight in watching the cruel and the stupid raging in futile outrage of their crushing defeat. To watch the bad guys lose is wonderful. To watch them continue to sputter and seethe even a year later is a delicious rare wine to savor.


When I pointed out that the ACA was most likely going to create IT jobs to support claims processing and that I was trying to position myself to be a part of that...they suddenly went very quiet. It was as if the possibility that jobs might get created by the government never even occurred to them. And they couldn't refute my position either, because jobs WILL be created by the ACA. I don't know how many but companies will have to hire tech people to help with the work load.
2013-09-23 12:18:31 PM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: Graffito: Aristocles: Jairzinho: FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!

Actually, no. If the dems, libs, and Farklibs would simply listen to what the Teabaggers are saying, maybe there wouldn't be so many misconceptions.

The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.

Who the hell is BOB?

You know, it's annoying how pathetic the Farklibs are getting on this issue. You know you can't defend BOB's dud, so you try to change the subject.


The second you put up a cogent defense based on facts of your opinion, you will have people lining up to debunk it. Until then STFU.
\Also, Who's BOB?
2013-09-23 12:16:21 PM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: theknuckler_33: No, but you are apparently a fan of hypocrisy.

You seem awfully upset about something. I have no idea what it is, but you're getting righteous indignation all over my shoes.


You're the one who started accusing people of being smug.
2013-09-23 12:14:18 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: what_now: phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.

Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.

But, this is FARK. And, here is where people come to create arguments out of thin air, using the most absurd nonsense they can pull out of their arses.

I'll get over it.

You have no idea what he does. Maybe he processed the passport that let you get on the plane to Costa Rica. Maybe, he's an FDA inspector. Maybe he's a cop, a firefighter or a soldier. You just heard "Works for government" and decided that he was a taker.

No. Wrong.

It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.


People that want to get paid for their work are takers?
2013-09-23 12:12:19 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: what_now: phenn: HotWingConspiracy: Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?

If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.

Where anyone got the notion that I'm for life without any shred of government is a bit beyond me.

But, this is FARK. And, here is where people come to create arguments out of thin air, using the most absurd nonsense they can pull out of their arses.

I'll get over it.

You have no idea what he does. Maybe he processed the passport that let you get on the plane to Costa Rica. Maybe, he's an FDA inspector. Maybe he's a cop, a firefighter or a soldier. You just heard "Works for government" and decided that he was a taker.

No. Wrong.

It was the 'fark you tea tards, I have bills to pay' remark that irritated me. I think that alone makes it quite clear whether or not he/she is a taker.


So it can't possibly be frustration over the Republican obstructionists in our government (not your government, because you cast yourself away on an island) ruining opportunities for Americans. It's gonna be only an indication that this person is so self-entitled to the government that all he wants to do is take more money. The logic train doesn't make stops in your neck of the world, does it?
2013-09-23 12:09:41 PM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: theknuckler_33:

are you just a fan of recursion or what


No, but you are apparently a fan of hypocrisy.
2013-09-23 12:03:32 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: If you go all the way back to the start of this, you'll see that I responded to someone who said 'fark the tea tards, I have bills to pay'. He/she also said he worked for the government.

I told him/her to get bent. I don't like the attitude that, because he/she works for the government, he/she is ENTITLED to that job and, since I am formerly someone who paid his/her salary, I dislike his/her attitude.


Not quite as annoying as the ignorance of "I pay your salary" and "get a real job".
2013-09-23 12:01:40 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Its fascinating watching the GOP destroy themselves over the ACA. I think they're more upset that Obama beat them than they are about the legislation itself.


memedepot.com
2013-09-23 12:01:17 PM  
1 votes:

BMulligan: Shadowknight: what_now: I have 7 kinds of currency in my wallet. Not much, just a few bills (or coins) in low denominations. Why? Because it's farking cool.

Well, I had about 30 of each.  I always keep Euro and American on me, but we had just gotten back from Scotland and were SUPPOSED to go to Gibraltar for some sort of celebration of something or other.  A monkey, I guess?

Either way, I kind of made a last minute trip home, and had my wallet laden with foreign bills.  Which apparently makes the TSA grumpy.

In my experience, breathing is sufficient to make the TSA grumpy. When I flew to Salt Lake City for my dad's funeral a couple weeks ago, I got pulled aside for a "random" check. The guy who conducted the examination was a real pip, let me tell you. You'll be happy to know that I tested negative for explosives residue, though.



So...a friend of mine just visited the US from Germany. She's 29(this will be important in a moment). Besides the usual retarded questions("Are you planning to commit any terrorist acts while in the US?", "Are you planning to kidnap any American children", etc), they asked her one so utterly stupid that I have to bold and separate it to really let it sink in.

"Did you have any involvement in the mass murders committed by the Nazis in WW2?"

Upon pointing out that she was 29, and thus not alive when WW2 happened, the agent told her that didn't answer the question.
2013-09-23 12:00:43 PM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?


And here we have living proof that propaganda really does work.
2013-09-23 11:59:53 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: phenn: Why do people insist on asking absurd questions?

Because it drives the narrative; asking the absurd allows one to feel smug about already knowing the answer, while not actually contributing.


Kinda like telling someone who works for the government to get a 'real job' because you pay taxes, eh?
2013-09-23 11:59:33 AM  
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Copperbelly watersnake: I am really mystified as to what the Republican leadership hoped to gain here.


[lovejaysdotcom.files.wordpress.com image 460x288]
It's gotta start some time


They just want to watch the world burn?
2013-09-23 11:56:58 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.

So, no taxes or government where you live?

No. There is no government here. No taxes and no civilization. I live in a tree and am typing this on a coconut. When the sun sets, I can hear the sounds of savages hunting crocodiles in the pitch.

YES, GENIUS. There is a government and there are taxes. Why do people insist on asking absurd questions?


Interesting. You seem to like the fact that the government helps maintain a civilization in which you enjoy living.  Hard to believe all those 'not real jobs' can manage something like that.

What was that you were saying about 'absurd'?
2013-09-23 11:54:54 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters


Sadly, these tricone hat wearing CHUDS have as little to do with the actual American Patriots as possible. They scream about "freedom", but in reality, the only freedom they want is freedom for themselves to be inhuman buttholes at everyone else.

A scattered mob of cranks and asswipes, brought together under a common flag of faux empowerment, and too stupid to know that they've been drafted into the Koch Army to do the bidding of the filthy rich.
2013-09-23 11:51:23 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: theknuckler_33: phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.

So, no taxes or government where you live?

No. There is no government here. No taxes and no civilization. I live in a tree and am typing this on a coconut. When the sun sets, I can hear the sounds of savages hunting crocodiles in the pitch.

YES, GENIUS. There is a government and there are taxes. Why do people insist on asking absurd questions?


Why do you take absurd stands like "NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO MY LABOR BECAUSE OF REASONS", but only feel strongly about it when living in America?
2013-09-23 11:50:03 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: I honestly don't even know why republicans object to health care reform. They mostly break down into incoherent rage whenever the subject comes up.


I have family friends who are completely normal except for the fact that they're in the Tea Party, and this is 100% accurate.
2013-09-23 11:42:36 AM  
1 votes:

DeArmondVI: raerae1980: Graffito: Aristocles: Jairzinho: FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!

Actually, no. If the dems, libs, and Farklibs would simply listen to what the Teabaggers are saying, maybe there wouldn't be so many misconceptions.

The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.

Who the hell is BOB?

He's never come out and explained this BOB thing.   *shrugs*    I think it's meant to demonize our President, but I don't get it.   I say we just point and laugh at him.   It's up to him to explain this new meme he keeps pushing.

After the past week of seeing this stupid meme attempt, I propose thus: any post containing said meme never gets responded to. It'll just sits there in a thread; lonely, retarded, and not given the attention it so desperately seeks.

It's dumb, and at first was fun to make fun of. At this point, however, it doesn't even deserve to be made fun of. No need to plonk, just don't give any sort of acknowledgement to any posts with the offending meme.

/my last response to the failed meme


Anyone I see who uses "BOB" seriously gets their posts colored in a retarded pink color from now on.
2013-09-23 11:41:00 AM  
1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: Felgraf: phenn: Felgraf: Also, psst, psst. Costa Rica provides universal healthcare.

You would be partially correct.

There is a government-underwritten health care system here called CAJA. It benefits the residents and citizens - not emigrants. It is funded by a consumption (sales) tax and works well for those who use it. For those who do not, health care is cheap. VERY cheap. Because the government doesn't poke its collective arse into everything under the sun, patient care, medication, etc is affordable.

Still taking the fruit of your labor at no benefit to you. Tax is a tax.

How do you figure that health care insurance isn't a benefit? Or do you not understand how insurance works? Not everyone gets more out of an insurance policy than they put in.


He's an immigrant in costa rica, and he specifically said that their universal health care does not apply to immigrants.

Thus, he is still doing something the he *claims* is the reason he left the US.

Thus he receives the same benefit from it he does from paying 'moochers' in the US (Which, I agree *DID* ultimately benefit him in a round-about-way. But he apparently didn't feel that way.)
2013-09-23 11:39:10 AM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: Jairzinho: FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!

Actually, no. If the dems, libs, and Farklibs would simply listen to what the Teabaggers are saying, maybe there wouldn't be so many misconceptions.

The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.


Would this be the same FDR that brought the country out of the Great Depression, and was so popular that he served four terms as President?
2013-09-23 11:39:08 AM  
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: I tend to group the "taxes are theft" crowd as being morons.


Well of course. This one makes her living on the internet, which she apparently invented, moved to a socialist country and keeps her citizenship "for her children".

Move to farking Deadwood or shut up.
2013-09-23 11:37:47 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.


Jesus tapdancing Christ.........

Do you use roads?
Do you like having a fire department?
Do you like having police?
Do you like having EMS?
Do you like having public parks?

You may or may not need these things, but society does. If you don't want to be a part of our society, then GFY and get out.
2013-09-23 11:36:25 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: udhq: Ah, so "patriot blogger" then.

;-)

No. Graphic design, web design, web development, video, etc. The only blogging I do is on photography.


Tell all the other telephone sanitizers that I said hello.
2013-09-23 11:30:34 AM  
1 votes:

jigger: Just because this guy (somedude) feels entitled to a steady, uninterrupted stream of your money (collected by immoral means) doesn't mean that he actually is.


He's trying to work, he's not being lazy.

And what is this nonsense about collecting money immorally? Are you another person who thinks our government employees are supposed to be paid with unicorn farts?

We pay to use the service and infrastructure of our electric & gas companies. Same thing with government. Is this a difficult concept to grasp?
2013-09-23 11:29:27 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: jigger: Just because this guy (somedude) feels entitled to a steady, uninterrupted stream of your money (collected by immoral means) doesn't mean that he actually is.

Thank you. This was the point I attempted to make and did a piss poor job of doing so.


Your point is that you're a complete idiot?
2013-09-23 11:27:47 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: thurstonxhowell: I really, really want to know Phenn's occupation.

She's a mother. They know best, no matter how mind bogglingly stupid the things they say are.

I have been a creative director for 25+ years. These days, I work for myself.

Next question?


How long do you think Costa Rica would remain an independent state if the US military did not exist?
2013-09-23 11:27:14 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: verbaltoxin: Alright, tell us what bastion of free living and stateless liberty you relocated to?

Costa Rica. Far from perfect, but a good life.

I get a lot of people here who say things like 'then, why do you care?' So, to make it clear, I still have children in the states and what happens there affects them. Hence, I care.


You abandoned your children?

And you moved to a socialist nation.
2013-09-23 11:24:59 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: Felgraf: Also, psst, psst. Costa Rica provides universal healthcare.

You would be partially correct.

There is a government-underwritten health care system here called CAJA. It benefits the residents and citizens - not emigrants. It is funded by a consumption (sales) tax and works well for those who use it. For those who do not, health care is cheap. VERY cheap. Because the government doesn't poke its collective arse into everything under the sun, patient care, medication, etc is affordable.


Still taking the fruit of your labor at no benefit to you. Tax is a tax.
2013-09-23 11:18:56 AM  
1 votes:
Does anyone else feel like P. Barnes is going to need to tase a biatch pretty soon?
2013-09-23 11:18:09 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: Felgraf: Nope, sorry, you've agreed (by virtue of staying here) to live in a country where you pay some of the fruits of your labor to the government, who in turn provide you with police, military, infrastructure, water that won't kill you if you drink it, fairly well inspected meat, scientific advancements that wouldn't otherwise be researched because they are not *immediately* profitable, a legal system, a system that allows redress if you are wronged *other* than trying to outgun the other person, etc.

Don't like it? Then get the fark out, loser.

Already done.


Alright, tell us what bastion of free living and stateless liberty you relocated to?
2013-09-23 11:17:47 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.


What a stupid thing to say.
'cause there are no 'real' jobs in government work

No real roads
No real work to be done in veterans affairs.
Nothing to be done in order to get social security checks out to the folks who rely on them.

Nope government workers = bad

/as someone who works a private sector job that relies on government doing their job I can say people who think like you are clueless about just how varied, worthwhile and important government work can be.
//pay attention
2013-09-23 11:17:04 AM  
1 votes:

Graffito: Aristocles: Jairzinho: FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!

Actually, no. If the dems, libs, and Farklibs would simply listen to what the Teabaggers are saying, maybe there wouldn't be so many misconceptions.

The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.

Who the hell is BOB?


He's never come out and explained this BOB thing.   *shrugs*    I think it's meant to demonize our President, but I don't get it.   I say we just point and laugh at him.   It's up to him to explain this new meme he keeps pushing.
2013-09-23 11:15:52 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.


Enjoy not having police, fire departments, teachers, roads, electricity, clean air, water, public health or any kind of national defense.  I'm sure you can bootstrap all that up though.
2013-09-23 11:15:19 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.


I'm going to take all of your stuff.  How do you think you can stop me? Because you have a gun? I have a troop of Hessian mercenaries who are paid to rape and pillage.

Hide yo' shiat. I'm coming.
2013-09-23 11:10:18 AM  
1 votes:

rosebud_the_sled: Is it just me or has everything conservatives have tried to do in the last 15 years ended in failure?  And managed to cost the public trillions.  Iraq?  Afghanistan?  Fighting Obamacare?  Trying to manage the US economy.

Is there anything they are capable of beyond pooping their pants?  I realize that they are all intentionally ignorant, but they must have gotten something right over the last two decades.

/getting morons to vote for you is not success, it just means that you are from a red state


They have not failed, it is just your criteria for success are not their criteria for success. See, you assume they are governing for everyone and that is not true. Their success is that they have looted the treasury, twice now, allowing their friends to acquire massive amounts of wealth. They have successfully slowed or stopped investigation into the financial sector, twice now, so that the financial sector can commit fraud, their friends can gain billions of dollars in wealth, and get the public to pay for the clean up.

They have successfully created this idea of class war, and pitted the middle class against the poor. While at the same time decimating the middle class. They have successfully used fear of change, fear of god, and fear of whatever to keep themselves in power.

So, by my measure they have been an unprecedented success, it is just that the middle class and poor have been hurt and sometimes destroyed by their success.
2013-09-23 11:09:46 AM  
1 votes:

Obama's Reptiloid Master: phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

Let the bites come. I don't give a rip.

You're either the worst capitalist I know or the worst communist.


Person. Worst person.

Anyone who biatches about "real jobs" and paying salaries of federal employees is a tard, and doubly so while doing it on a home PC and US internet.

And, "pretty much" rugged individualism isn't rugged individualism. He is, however, "pretty much" retarded.
2013-09-23 11:08:45 AM  
1 votes:

Rwa2play: phenn: Rwa2play: phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.

8/10.  Bites acomin'.

Not a troll and I don't care. No one is entitled to the fruits of my labor but me and my family. This idea that my labor is someone else's property is ridiculous.

And yeah, you're trollin' man.


Technically his mother counts as family.
2013-09-23 10:59:23 AM  
1 votes:
Anyone who thinks a g-man's job isn't real should take it up with a Marine, an FBI agent, the lady who inspects your milk for flesh-eating bacteria, and an air traffic controller.

By which I mean all those people should gang up on and beat the living sh*t out of a Tea Partier for the temerity to say "get a real job," as if collecting disability and touring with Glenn Beck on a hoverround is a real job.

/or being a "self-employed" professional blogger at Townhall or self-publishing ebooks on how to avoid paying taxes with this one easy trick.
2013-09-23 10:56:20 AM  
1 votes:
"Paul said Republicans still expect members to fight the law, which national polls show only about a third of Americans support. "

They keep repeating this but I really find it hard to believe. Obama ran on a platform of health care reform and was elected. Then he ran on a platform of implementing the ACA, and he was re-elected. What part of "elected to reform health care and re-elected to implement health care reform" do these people not understand? The national polls in question must be framing the question in terms of "If you knew that Obamacare would murder your grandmother, would you still support it?"
2013-09-23 10:55:00 AM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

Thanks, Obama
2013-09-23 10:54:48 AM  
1 votes:

LeoffDaGrate: themindiswatching: Aristocles: BOB

Who's Bob?

It's been so long, I forget.  Who's the idiot that kept referring to Obama with the number?  "0bama"?


10#o'chez
2013-09-23 10:53:23 AM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: Graffito: Aristocles: Derwood: Defeating the GOP on this front is bigger than just the ACA.

If they set a precedent where they can just defund any law they don't happen to like, then no law is sacred. They can use the budget to punish their political enemies for passing laws they disagree with.

Our government is broken beyond repair

The bolded bit above is correct. No law is sacred.

Well, except for the right to keep and bear arms... amirite?

That's not a law.


Dear god you're stupid.  The constitution is the law of the land.
2013-09-23 10:51:21 AM  
1 votes:

phenn: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As someone who has been paying salaries like yours for 30+ years, fark you too. Get a real job.


Hurry up with my fries John Galt.
2013-09-23 10:48:32 AM  
1 votes:

Graffito: Aristocles: Jairzinho: FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!

Actually, no. If the dems, libs, and Farklibs would simply listen to what the Teabaggers are saying, maybe there wouldn't be so many misconceptions.

The Grand Old Party is working diligently to save America. The biggest job killing piece of legislation since the days of FDR is Obamacare, so it's important to tackle that first. But, BOB and the dems have been stubborn and have only changed Obamacare in ways that benefit their cronies, i.e. BOB and the dems have not been looking out for the American people. As Obamacare is slowly forced down the American people's throats, Republicans are keeping an open mind about ways to prevent the bungled, anti-Freedom legislation from destroying our Great Nation.

Who the hell is BOB?


You know, it's annoying how pathetic the Farklibs are getting on this issue. You know you can't defend BOB's dud, so you try to change the subject.
2013-09-23 10:45:01 AM  
1 votes:

PanicMan: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

It's already having a negative effect.   Everyone in my office if freaking out about a potential shutdown.


The Republican party is hoping that the people in your office will blame the Democrats.
2013-09-23 10:40:39 AM  
1 votes:

Derwood: Defeating the GOP on this front is bigger than just the ACA.

If they set a precedent where they can just defund any law they don't happen to like, then no law is sacred. They can use the budget to punish their political enemies for passing laws they disagree with.

Our government is broken beyond repair


And this is why the reasonable leaders from each party will make sure that the extremists on the GOP side will not succeed or if they do, they will be punished.

It is kind of like how the stock market is now driven by quarterly gains and not any reasonable look at the economic future and a roadmap of sustainability.  If you look behind the curtain, it is the same 'job creators' pushing both ideas.
2013-09-23 10:32:19 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: Mrbogey: As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?

we get paid far less than the private sector, we're often the first people to get hit with these economic decisions. We're the ones that get furloughed, we're the ones who actually have it against the freakin' law to do our jobs during these times. When we can't work, it farks over the private sector. Ours is oftentimes the first ripple in this ripple effect, with private industry not feeling the brunt of the problem until weeks or months later


His private sector job is shilling on FARK for the GOP. Give the guy a break.
2013-09-23 10:30:48 AM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?


Yup expanding healthcare is a dumb idea. Go play in traffic now.
2013-09-23 10:29:31 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: sprawl15: Weaver95: Its fascinating watching the GOP destroy themselves over the ACA. I think they're more upset that Obama beat them than they are about the legislation itself.

I'd bet it's a lot more that Obama keeps pitching traditionally Republican ideas. It's kind of hard to play partisan politics when he's just reading out of their book from 10-20 years ago.

And I think it's driving them crazy.


It's the method to his madness:  Trot out GOP ideas that mainstream Americans accept, then watch the GOP go apeshiat over it.
2013-09-23 10:27:09 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

I was promised by fox news dot com that the sequester was actually going to be good for the country because...well, I don't think they gave a reason, I think they just pointed out that Obama didn't want it so it had to be good, but yeah. That's good enough for me and mine.


Sigh....and the TeaTards thought Romney losing was bad.  Wait 'till they get a load of next year's election results.  "Apoplectic" might be too inadequate as a term for their reaction.
2013-09-23 10:25:21 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: sdd2000: what_now: KingKauff: I find it amusing that the people who are against RomneyObamacare are the ones who won't even need it.

Lowering the number of people who use the ER as primary care, making sure everyone is vaccinated will help everyone. Doing away with pre-existing condition denials and lifetime limits will help most people.

As will requiring health insurance companies to spend at least a specified percentage on health care and not profits.

And remember....actually paying for health care is considered evil. Apparently we aren't supposed to cut CEO pay under any circumstances ever.


Well...using corporate money collected to pay for health care to...ya know, pay for health care is considered evil. We're supposed to let the CEO use that money to buy a trophy wife and a new yacht.
2013-09-23 10:23:12 AM  
1 votes:

sdd2000: what_now: KingKauff: I find it amusing that the people who are against RomneyObamacare are the ones who won't even need it.

Lowering the number of people who use the ER as primary care, making sure everyone is vaccinated will help everyone. Doing away with pre-existing condition denials and lifetime limits will help most people.

As will requiring health insurance companies to spend at least a specified percentage on health care and not profits.


And remember....actually paying for health care is considered evil. Apparently we aren't supposed to cut CEO pay under any circumstances ever.
2013-09-23 10:16:57 AM  
1 votes:

what_now: KingKauff: I find it amusing that the people who are against RomneyObamacare are the ones who won't even need it.

Lowering the number of people who use the ER as primary care, making sure everyone is vaccinated will help everyone. Doing away with pre-existing condition denials and lifetime limits will help most people.


As will requiring health insurance companies to spend at least a specified percentage on health care and not profits.
2013-09-23 10:15:14 AM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: As a non-govt employee who is tired of govt employees doing their best to feather their own nest at the expense of the private sector, who really cares that bad economic decisions are finally impacting you? Did you think these dumb ideas Obama is implementing would keep screwing over only everyone else forever?


we get paid far less than the private sector, we're often the first people to get hit with these economic decisions. We're the ones that get furloughed, we're the ones who actually have it against the freakin' law to do our jobs during these times. When we can't work, it farks over the private sector. Ours is oftentimes the first ripple in this ripple effect, with private industry not feeling the brunt of the problem until weeks or months later
2013-09-23 10:13:05 AM  
1 votes:
FTA: "...the presidential prospect said Republicans in Congress could use votes on measures in the House and in the Senate to come up with compromise legislation that could make the law more palatable."

Now that you guys realize that it's not going to happen, now, now you want to COMPROMISE? What would you guys give up that you could still obtain? NOTHING!! so Fark OFF!!!!
2013-09-23 10:10:46 AM  
1 votes:

born_yesterday: At least have the guts to use your regular account.

fsud: n'sync


fsud: new kids on the block


fsud: 98 degrees


fsud: back. Street boys

2013-09-23 10:08:09 AM  
1 votes:

fsud: sprawl15: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

I was promised by fox news dot com that the sequester was actually going to be good for the country because...well, I don't think they gave a reason, I think they just pointed out that Obama didn't want it so it had to be good, but yeah. That's good enough for me and mine.

Obama didn't want the sequester?

It was his idea, of course he wanted it.

I'm told on Fark by FarkLibs at least five times a day that Barack "BOBby Fisher" Obama plays 4th dimension chess. He new the sequester was bad, and new Dim's wouldn't be n'sync with R's on a deal. It stands to reason that new kids on the block of the TeaPartyPatriots wouldn't extend the debt ceiling again, as America shouldn't, but Obama new they wouldn't.

When all that happens there is only one direction to go he will institute martial sharia law and appoint himself King as America burns under 98 degrees heat next summer. At that point theres no turning back. Street boys in the new black panthers will run our local governments.


2013-06-20 08:24:25

At least have the guts to use your regular account.
2013-09-23 09:59:46 AM  
1 votes:

t3knomanser: //"Welcome to the United States. I got mine. Go fark yourself."


FTFY
2013-09-23 09:48:20 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: Weaver95: Its fascinating watching the GOP destroy themselves over the ACA. I think they're more upset that Obama beat them than they are about the legislation itself.

I'd bet it's a lot more that Obama keeps pitching traditionally Republican ideas. It's kind of hard to play partisan politics when he's just reading out of their book from 10-20 years ago.


And I think it's driving them crazy.
2013-09-23 09:46:49 AM  
1 votes:

CPT Ethanolic: somedude210: As a government employee who already suffered furloughs this summer, fark you TeaTards. You have done nothing to improve this country and done everything to destroy it. I've got bills to pay and you're not helping matters

Even better sitting out here in Afghanistan and having your pay suddenly stop.  Makes managing things at home from thousands of miles away REAL easy.


Because not paying soldiers in the field always ends well....the Romans tried that a couple times and the guys who did it ended up quite dead afterwards.
2013-09-23 09:46:08 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: KarmicDisaster: Only one third support it? Or is that a quote of what he "believes".

Depends on the phrasing. "Do you support the socialist Obamacare takeover?" polls much lower than "Do you support ?".


How about "Do you believe the government should defund Obamacare?"

If that's the question, a majority of Americans say "No, Obamacare should not be defunded."


Survey says : The GOP is lying again
2013-09-23 09:44:27 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: KarmicDisaster: Only one third support it? Or is that a quote of what he "believes".

Depends on the phrasing. "Do you support the socialist Obamacare takeover?" polls much lower than "Do you support [list of things that Obamacare actually does]?".


/forgot fark gets antsy around angle brackets
2013-09-23 09:11:23 AM  
1 votes:
"I'm acknowledging we can't probably defeat or get rid of Obamacare," he said. "But by starting with our position of not funding it, maybe we get to a position where we make it less bad."

Umm...yeahhh.  I'd really like to know how you get from point A to B.
 
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