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(Washington Post)   Eastern Colorado officials are hoping a nice blanket of snow will help all the tourists forget that most of their infrastructure was wiped out by flooding   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 65
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2013-09-23 09:13:34 AM  
But it's so trendy to live in the Rockies.
You know, where only a wolf or griz sould survive the winter.

Have some white whine with your neighborhood?
 
2013-09-23 09:48:13 AM  

vudukungfu: But it's so trendy to live in the Rockies.
You know, where only a wolf or griz sould survive the winter.

Have some white whine with your neighborhood?


That would be funnier if there were Wolves and Grizzly Bears here.
 
2013-09-23 09:49:36 AM  
Eastern Colorado?
 
2013-09-23 09:58:18 AM  
Uh, FYI, it didn't work for Halifax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion
 
2013-09-23 10:01:44 AM  

pseudoscience: Eastern Colorado?


The Pawnee Grasslands up around Greeley are nice.  But yeah, I don't think Subby has spent much time in Eastern Colorado.
 
2013-09-23 10:04:56 AM  
So who's the cocksucker who wrote the headline?  Eastern Colorado?
 
2013-09-23 10:05:34 AM  
A nice, thick layer of snow would mean more flooding in the spring.
 
2013-09-23 10:11:52 AM  
What, everybody in CO drives 4x4s right? What's the probl....oh yeah those Priuses and Smart4Twos probably weren't the best choice there.
 
2013-09-23 10:14:06 AM  
They should lower taxes and spend what money they have on bombs and fighter jets. The new infrastructure will just trickle down over time.
 
2013-09-23 10:24:45 AM  

pseudoscience: Eastern Colorado?


It's sorta correct, if you want to call everything east of the mountains 'eastern'.
 
2013-09-23 10:30:42 AM  
Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!
 
2013-09-23 10:31:39 AM  
/Living in Outer Bumfark is nice until something goes ... wrong.
 
2013-09-23 10:33:13 AM  
Like 10 comments in, and between the headline and the comments, there's already so much Colorado fail here.
 
2013-09-23 10:43:53 AM  
Open a Jet Pack store. let everyone get bootstrappy and cutting edge. Sure they have to land every 30 somethings but they'll save a bunch on highways.

Even go some Names:
Jet Packs 2 Go
Jett's Jet Packs
Colorado Jet Pack Emporium
Mack's Jet Packs and Racks (Formerly Chuck's)
 
2013-09-23 10:44:05 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!


Your impression of this part of Colorado is hilariously, hilariously incorrect.
 
2013-09-23 10:47:43 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!


You realize that the Boulder region, one of the flooded counties, is probably a contender for most liberal area of the country right?
 
2013-09-23 10:55:38 AM  
Global warming. Colorado never flooded before Halliburton stalked and raped the environment.
 
2013-09-23 10:58:31 AM  
The way things are going for Colorado, they'll get 12 feet of snow this winter and whatever tourists manage to make it in will become dinner.
 
2013-09-23 10:59:59 AM  

Dafatone: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Your impression of this part of Colorado is hilariously, hilariously incorrect.


xaldin: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

You realize that the Boulder region, one of the flooded counties, is probably a contender for most liberal area of the country right?


Yep, it's a backward gulag of whining NIMBYs.
Pampered, spoiled people of any ideology (pick one) living in a bubble without compassion.
Ever haul mud or gravel in a Pry-us?
It's Boulder's Katrina!
Now the whiners will see what You're On Your Own, (YO-YO!) government tastes like.
 
2013-09-23 11:02:37 AM  
Look,  in the US the FED is pumping 85 billion dollars a month to prop up the economy.       Everybody apparantly agrees there is no recession.    So just start a Berlin airlift of large cargo planes full of pallets of cash.    An extra 20 billion a month isn't evern going to dent anything.   As we all know, debt and the debt ceiling are not a big deal.  We'll deal with it later.

Put all the Coloradoians up in luxury hotels for a year and offer them like 2 million $ apiece to relocate or rebuild.      Cash for Colorado.     Easy-peasey.


/next issue
 
2013-09-23 11:04:24 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!


Yep.  Colorado is definitely 3rd world status.  Terrible here.  Most places don't even have running water or indoor plumbing.

You should really stay as far away from Colorado as you can.  You'll be much safer and happier staying on whatever coast it is that you're currently on.
 
2013-09-23 11:16:30 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!


Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined, and Boulder, which was hardest hit, is liberal to the point they threw the power company out and replaced them with renewable sources of energy for the most part. Yes, I have guns... that doesn't make me a redneck hillbilly... it makes me someone who got jumped by a bear (once) while taking out trash, and straight up raided by foxes another time while taking out trash. As a further aside, Coloradans collect .91 for every dollar they put into federal coffers, we're one of the states that props up system and pays a bit more than our fair share. As one of the first states to adopt Obamacare though, in 2014, in addition to our guns, pickuptrucks, and way of life that most of the rest of the country wishes they had, we'll also have nearly universal healthcare.

As for being too cold (got down to -36 last year here) and too high (about 10k feet where I live now), that's just how we weed out little nancys like you.
 
2013-09-23 11:19:37 AM  

OneFretAway: pseudoscience: Eastern Colorado?

The Pawnee Grasslands up around Greeley are nice.  But yeah, I don't think Subby has spent much time in Eastern Colorado.


Yep.  Eastern Colorado is Limon, Sterling, and other such expansive plains.
 
2013-09-23 11:23:14 AM  
Headline makes me feel sorry for the poor tourists who flew thousands of miles from Japan to see "Eastern Colorado," getting confused looks from the fine residents of Hugo.
 
2013-09-23 11:24:19 AM  

SevenizGud: Global warming. Colorado never flooded before Halliburton stalked and raped the environment.


In a thousand years we will remember the times of Gilgamesh and Noah in Colorado and know how terrible floods can be.
 
2013-09-23 11:24:39 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Dafatone: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Your impression of this part of Colorado is hilariously, hilariously incorrect.

xaldin: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

You realize that the Boulder region, one of the flooded counties, is probably a contender for most liberal area of the country right?

Yep, it's a backward gulag of whining NIMBYs.
Pampered, spoiled people of any ideology (pick one) living in a bubble without compassion.
Ever haul mud or gravel in a Pry-us?
It's Boulder's Katrina!
Now the whiners will see what You're On Your Own, (YO-YO!) government tastes like.


I don't think you understand the Colorado mentality, or what "your own" looks like here... there's more volunteerism going on in the last couple weeks here than I saw in the decade I lived in NYC. Aside from Boulder being incredibly liberal and Colorado being one of the first states to adopt Obamacare, I'm really confused why so many of you seem to think CO is a deep red state... it's also gone to Obama both times. Frankly, these assertions of "third world" Colorado because we had boil water alerts during and after record flooding are weird, but not as weird as the fact that the people in this thread seem to have time traveled here from the early 80s to tell us what they think of CO politics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh1qCf-ohOQ">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=xh1qCf-ohOQ

This is the place you think is conservative?
 
2013-09-23 11:27:00 AM  
People, you can't allow yourselves to get roped in so easily.  "The place where you live sucks" is the easiest troll there is.
 
2013-09-23 11:30:18 AM  

firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined, and Boulder, which was hardest hit, is liberal to the point they threw the power company out and replaced them with renewable sources of energy for the most part. Yes, I have guns... that doesn't make me a redneck hillbilly... it makes me someone who got jumped by a bear (once) while taking out trash, and straight up raided by foxes another time while taking out trash. As a further aside, Coloradans collect .91 for every dollar they put into federal coffers, we're one of the states that props up system and pays a bit more than our fair share. As one of the first states to adopt Obamacare though, in 2014, in addition to our guns, pickuptrucks, and way of life that most of the rest of the country wishes they had, we'll also have nearly universal healthcare.

As for being too cold (got down to -36 last year here) and too high (about 10k feet where I live now), that's just how we weed out little nancys like you.


You were doing so well until the "we take only .91 of every federal dollar" bullshiat. That study you love referring to is too stupid to understand shared benefits. Colorado venefits from military bases in other states. They benefit from lower transport costs from highway funds in other states. Same with rail costs. I'm sure coloradans travel, so they benefit from air costs. Energy development subsidies lower your energy costs. Etc. Liberals would do well to realize how stupid a study that doesn't analyze shared benefits when referring to federal funds is..
 
2013-09-23 11:35:59 AM  
It sucks so much here.. I'm moving back to Ohio.
 
2013-09-23 11:42:28 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Dafatone: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Your impression of this part of Colorado is hilariously, hilariously incorrect.

xaldin: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

You realize that the Boulder region, one of the flooded counties, is probably a contender for most liberal area of the country right?

Yep, it's a backward gulag of whining NIMBYs.
Pampered, spoiled people of any ideology (pick one) living in a bubble without compassion.
Ever haul mud or gravel in a Pry-us?
It's Boulder's Katrina!
Now the whiners will see what You're On Your Own, (YO-YO!) government tastes like.


I was going to say that if you're going to do a 180 on your trolling you should at least do it in either a different thread or a bigger thread, but then I saw you got a bite so never mind.
 
2013-09-23 11:47:19 AM  

theorellior: They should lower taxes and spend what money they have on bombs and fighter jets. The new infrastructure will just trickle down over time.


For practice, the aircraft can bomb the remaining infrastructure.
 
2013-09-23 11:57:55 AM  
Actually, it would be good for all the motherfarking tourists to go home, and take the transplanted liberal yuppies with you. As a Colorado native we are sick and tired of being Californicated.
 
2013-09-23 11:58:08 AM  

firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined,



So you're saying there are 400 ski resorts in Colorado?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ski_areas_and_resorts_in_the_Un it ed_States

/Utah, the Greatest Snow on Earth
//Colorado is still pretty awesome, though
 
2013-09-23 11:59:17 AM  
As if any of us here in Colorado care. Pot is legal so whats the problem? Mile High baby:-)
 
2013-09-23 12:02:40 PM  

aspenforest: firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined,


So you're saying there are 400 ski resorts in Colorado?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ski_areas_and_resorts_in_the_Un it ed_States

/Utah, the Greatest Snow on Earth
//Colorado is still pretty awesome, though


See how I said resorts, and you linked to a list of ski areas with no hotels, base services, or restaurants... resort != ski area... that said, I had no idea there were so many in the mid-west (I knew there were plenty in MI, but had no idea that some of the other states had so many ski areas). If we're including skiable areas though, I'd say either UT or CO... there's plenty of forest service land out here that isn't technically a ski area or resort, but offers some of the best skiing you'll ever encounter.

/wear your friggin transceivers and take avy safety classes if you're gonna go bc.
 
2013-09-23 12:13:33 PM  

firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined, and Boulder, which was hardest hit, is liberal to the point they threw the power company out and replaced them with renewable sources of energy for the most part. Yes, I have guns... that doesn't make me a redneck hillbilly... it makes me someone who got jumped by a bear (once) while taking out trash, and straight up raided by foxes another time while taking out trash. As a further aside, Coloradans collect .91 for every dollar they put into federal coffers, we're one of the states that props up system and pays a bit more than our fair share. As one of the first states to adopt Obamacare though, in 2014, in addition to our guns, pickuptrucks, and way of life that most of the rest of the country wishes they had, we'll also have nearly universal healthcare.

As for being too cold (got down to -36 last year here) and too high (about 10k feet where I live now), that's just how we weed out little nancys like you.


Pay to play.
Gotcha.
These floods will put an end to that smug net-contributor talking point.
A real paradise.
 
2013-09-23 12:17:20 PM  

pseudoscience: Eastern Colorado?


Fort Collins, Colorado Springs, Boulder, Longmont, Loveland, etc. are all on the Eastern Plains, nudged up against the Rockies to varying degrees, but mostly on the plain.  Aurora is so far east that Denverites sometimes call it "Saudi Aurora".  Weld County could be mistaken for Kansas if you didn't look west, and it really got flooded.  Even the mountain towns that got clobbered were still well east of the Continental Divide, except arguably Estes Park.  So far as I know, no one west of the Divide even got their feet wet.

Even if the rain did not fall mainly on the plain, it got scooped up and concentrated there.  Denver had few problems, but Aurora got hit because the rivers from places that did get a lot of rain hit flow through there.
 
2013-09-23 12:23:14 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: I was going to say that if you're going to do a 180 on your trolling you should at least do it in either a different thread or a bigger thread, but then I saw you got a bite so never mind.


I'm not an ideological poster.
Culturally, Colorado is not much ahead of New Jersey and not much more self-aware.
Smug, smug, smug.
 
2013-09-23 12:24:03 PM  

firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined, and Boulder, which was hardest hit, is liberal to the point they threw the power company out and replaced them with renewable sources of energy for the most part. Yes, I have guns... that doesn't make me a redneck hillbilly... it makes me someone who got jumped by a bear (once) while taking out trash, and straight up raided by foxes another time while taking out trash. As a further aside, Coloradans collect .91 for every dollar they put into federal coffers, we're one of the states that props up system and pays a bit more than our fair share. As one of the first states to adopt Obamacare though, in 2014, in addition to our guns, pickuptrucks, and way of life that most of the rest of the country wishes they had, we'll also have nearly universal healthcare.

As for being too cold (got down to -36 last year here) and too high (about 10k feet where I live now), that's just how we weed out little nancys like you.


And if anyone bothered to read the farking article, it says that we are down to only 6 people unaccounted for.  As disasters go, we handled this one pretty well.  Even the towns that are now inaccessible were evacuated safely.  Sure, many sewage treatment facilities were totaled, but that's what happens in a five hundred or thousand year flood.
 
2013-09-23 12:27:55 PM  

firefly212: aspenforest: firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined,


So you're saying there are 400 ski resorts in Colorado?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ski_areas_and_resorts_in_the_Un it ed_States

/Utah, the Greatest Snow on Earth
//Colorado is still pretty awesome, though

See how I said resorts, and you linked to a list of ski areas with no hotels, base services, or restaurants... resort != ski area... that said, I had no idea there were so many in the mid-west (I knew there were plenty in MI, but had no idea that some of the other states had so many ski areas). If we're including skiable areas though, I'd say either UT or CO... there's plenty of forest service land out here that isn't technically a ski area or resort, but offers some of the best skiing you'll ever encounter.

/wear your friggin transceivers and take avy safety classes if you're gonna go bc.


I'm not trying to be a jerk, I promise. I knew what you meant, but raised an eyebrow at the "more than the entire country combined" comment, and had to investigate. And by investigate, I mean google, and click first link to wikipedia. I, too, had no idea there were so many, even in the southwest.

Mr. Aspen grew up skiing Mt Holly, MI (all 350 vertical feet of it, just a hill of covered mine tailings), and thought it couldn't get any better.  Then he came to Utah for college, and ended up on academic probation. Why go to school when there is world class powder just minutes away??
 
2013-09-23 12:28:48 PM  
This thread makes me want to move to Colorado now... Way better skiing and better motorcycle riding than the midwest :o
 
2013-09-23 12:36:26 PM  
If you live in Colorado the populated areas of Springs , Denver, Boulder, Longmont, etc are considered the Front Range.  Eastern Colorado is sparsely populated and much like Kansas.
 
2013-09-23 12:36:54 PM  

firefly212: If we're including skiable areas though, I'd say either UT or CO...


I think Alaska has you beat there.
 
2013-09-23 12:37:27 PM  

flondrix: Even if the rain did not fall mainly on the plain, it got scooped up and concentrated there.  Denver had few problems, but Aurora got hit because the rivers from places that did get a lot of rain hit flow through there.


Alluvial fans ... check out the alluvial faaaaaaaaans.
 
2013-09-23 12:37:55 PM  
Subby doesn't know how Colorado works.  The flooding was in the Front Range.  All the resorts are on the Back Ranges.  Because storm systems move from west to east, the Back Ranges have the best slopes and the best snows.  A lot of times snow will just blow over the foothills, even over Boulder and Denver then wallop the plains and Kansas with a fury.

/I have a brother with a house a few miles from Jamestown.  The road through Jamestown is trashed along with a good part of the town.  What was an hour commute is now a 3 hour commute to Boulder.
 
2013-09-23 12:39:56 PM  

flondrix: firefly212: HotIgneous Intruder: Third World is as Third World does.
But at least they've got their guns and pickup trucks!

Colorado has an exceedingly high number of college graduates, 2 democratic senators, a democratic governor, more ski resorts than the rest of the country combined, and Boulder, which was hardest hit, is liberal to the point they threw the power company out and replaced them with renewable sources of energy for the most part. Yes, I have guns... that doesn't make me a redneck hillbilly... it makes me someone who got jumped by a bear (once) while taking out trash, and straight up raided by foxes another time while taking out trash. As a further aside, Coloradans collect .91 for every dollar they put into federal coffers, we're one of the states that props up system and pays a bit more than our fair share. As one of the first states to adopt Obamacare though, in 2014, in addition to our guns, pickuptrucks, and way of life that most of the rest of the country wishes they had, we'll also have nearly universal healthcare.

As for being too cold (got down to -36 last year here) and too high (about 10k feet where I live now), that's just how we weed out little nancys like you.

And if anyone bothered to read the farking article, it says that we are down to only 6 people unaccounted for.  As disasters go, we handled this one pretty well.  Even the towns that are now inaccessible were evacuated safely.  Sure, many sewage treatment facilities were totaled, but that's what happens in a five hundred or thousand year flood.


According to CSU, it's more like a 10 to 15 year flood.

Also, the best skiing in North America is at Jackson Hole.
 
2013-09-23 12:45:08 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: pseudoscience: Eastern Colorado?

It's sorta correct, if you want to call everything east of the mountains 'eastern'.


If you want pick nits, since Colorado's eastern boundary is a meridian at 102°3'W, its western boundary is a meridian at 109°3'W, and its northern and southern boundaries are lines of lattitude, it is exactly bisected by a meridian at 105°33'W.  Estes Park lies just barely east of that line, and all of other afflicted areas are much further east.  The local news media refers to Denver as being in "northeastern Colorado" when reporting on natural phenomenon.
 
2013-09-23 01:01:27 PM  

DesertDemonWY: According to CSU, it's more like a 10 to 15 year flood.


I moved to Colorado 35 years ago.  In that time, I do not recall Estes Park ever losing both of its year-round, non-recreational highways to flooding.  Certainly my hometown (nowhere near Estes Park) never saw a flood this bad that period of time.  When was the last time Boulder got flooded this badly, or Aurora?  While it is possible for one location to go 35 years without seeing a "ten year flood", it is unlikely for several widely separated areas to do so.  I think CSU must be averaging things in such a way as to make that statement meaningless.
 
2013-09-23 01:13:13 PM  

firefly212: I don't think you understand the Colorado mentality, or what "your own" looks like here... there's more volunteerism going on in the last couple weeks here than I saw in the decade I lived in NYC. Aside from Boulder being incredibly liberal and Colorado being one of the first states to adopt Obamacare, I'm really confused why so many of you seem to think CO is a deep red state.


It helps that a lot of Coloradoans really get into volunteer firefighting, ambulance, or alpine rescue as a sort of "extreme sport".  Search & rescue is one thing we have never been short of; when a kid disappeared at a day camp that one summer, every scuba diver in Denver (yes, there are quite a lot of them for some reason, don't ask me why) was offering to search the lake.
 
2013-09-23 01:14:29 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Noticeably F.A.T.: I was going to say that if you're going to do a 180 on your trolling you should at least do it in either a different thread or a bigger thread, but then I saw you got a bite so never mind.

I'm not an ideological poster.
Culturally, Colorado is not much ahead of New Jersey and not much more self-aware.
Smug, smug, smug.


Gonna hand it to you: 8/10.
 
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