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2013-09-23 08:07:35 AM

PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.


So if I "respond" to that church calling for all the lgbt in America to be put in camps I'm justified? Sweet! Or is it different because jesus?
 
2013-09-23 08:07:46 AM
I wouldn't be surprised. There are two things American's love: Being stupid and fighting other people's battles. This sounds like the average American's wet dream.

/how else do you explain 8 years of Boosh.
 
2013-09-23 08:18:32 AM

Yes this is dog: It's nice to see the right just being open about being OK with ethnic cleansing now.


Sigh.  So only "darkies" can be Islamic, right Cletus?

1) Islam isn't a race.  (Remember those two white kids that just bombed Boston?)
2)  Rooting out violent nutjobs at home has nothing to do with race.
3)  I'm an Obama hugging lefty.

Stop being an ignorant racist terrorism apologist.
 
2013-09-23 08:36:47 AM
AINO: Americans in name only
 
2013-09-23 08:43:09 AM

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: They're muslims from america, not Americans.  Yes, I said it.  you know I'm right.  if they turn out white, then we've got a story.. till then, meh.


I guess if they turn out to be white then they really DO have a reason to kill whitey this time.
 
2013-09-23 08:51:32 AM

Lorelle: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

You've forgotten about the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by Christians, and the Catholic priests who are still terrorizing children.


Were you molested? All you post about is how bad Christianity is. In a thread not even about it.
 
2013-09-23 09:14:33 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Sigh. So only "darkies" can be Islamic, right Cletus?

1) Islam isn't a race. (Remember those two white kids that just bombed Boston?)


I also remember idiots on the right bending over backwards to argue that they weren't really "caucasian" even though they came from Caucasia.
 
2013-09-23 09:26:23 AM

Arkanaut: skullkrusher: Arkanaut: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

Or, following GWOT logic, we're going to have to invade Australia.

well, if you're gonna invade someone, it makes a helluva lot more sense to invade the place that harbored their leader and abetted their plans than the place where their mom shat them out her cooch

So... how many of the hijackers on 9/11 were Iraqis again?


None. They were all US Americans. Haven't you been paying attention?
 
2013-09-23 09:26:33 AM

truthseeker2083: PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.

So if I "respond" to that church calling for all the lgbt in America to be put in camps I'm justified? Sweet! Or is it different because jesus?


If they ACT on those beliefs?  sure.  I think you'll admit Muslim extremism goes just a bit beyond "calling" for things, though.
 
2013-09-23 09:29:33 AM

Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.

Not playing cards. There are people on this thread name-calling the black Somalis. Imagine what gets said in real life.

I just would like you to think when skinheads, adherents to the Christian faith call for my death, how would you like me to treat other Christians?


Yeah, skin heads suck.   Got a recent example of mass terrorism by them?  because shooting up a mall goes a bit beyond "calling" for something...
 
2013-09-23 09:32:26 AM
Threads like these are testing the theoretical limit of how big an ignore list can be.
 
2013-09-23 09:47:30 AM

Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

Plenty of christian terrorists. Anders Bering Breivik, the most prolific single terrorist gunman in history is rabidly christian.
Plenty of buddhist terrorists as well.
And Hindi
And Jewish.

Mostly buddhist though. Those guys are really fond of murdering kids.

/not joking, although I bet some of you think so. I'm just really, really good at reading statistics (www.un.org) and buddhists are really, really violent.
 
2013-09-23 09:50:41 AM

Naesen: Lorelle: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

You've forgotten about the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by Christians, and the Catholic priests who are still terrorizing children.

And not to forget the very similar battles between Catholic and Protestants in Ireland, very similar to the Sunni vs shiate, and if memory serves they only got over that fairly recently.


LOL.  All the cultural apologists love to cite the IRA.  Total death toll in 30 years of The Troubles - 3,530.  Or about 117 people per year.
 
2013-09-23 09:56:41 AM

FLMountainMan: Naesen: Lorelle: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

You've forgotten about the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by Christians, and the Catholic priests who are still terrorizing children.

And not to forget the very similar battles between Catholic and Protestants in Ireland, very similar to the Sunni vs shiate, and if memory serves they only got over that fairly recently.

LOL.  All the cultural apologists love to cite the IRA.  Total death toll in 30 years of The Troubles - 3,530.  Or about 117 people per year.


Islam tops that daily... for thundreds of years

/But mommy , billy did it too
//Did Brev scream thank god as he was shooting?
 
2013-09-23 10:23:33 AM
NPR covered this today and got me focused on what was going down, there.  That was an incredible sequence of photos.
 
2013-09-23 10:23:41 AM

PunGent: Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.

Not playing cards. There are people on this thread name-calling the black Somalis. Imagine what gets said in real life.

I just would like you to think when skinheads, adherents to the Christian faith call for my death, how would you like me to treat other Christians?

Yeah, skin heads suck.   Got a recent example of mass terrorism by them?  because shooting up a mall goes a bit beyond "calling" for something...


Muslims massacred in Bosnia is not a reflection of peaceful Christians.
Muslims massacred in Burma is not a reflection of peaceful Buddhists.
The Christian sniper who had God guiding his hand when he killed over a hundred males "of fighting age" recently here on Fark is not a representative sample.
How many Muslim civilians were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during Bush's "Crusade"? (His choice of words, not mine). Please do the research on just how many children died. Use UNICEF numbers for a more trusted site.
And how many people here on Fark call to make that area into a 'glass parking lot'?
If that was representative of all of Fark, I wouldn't be here.

Luckily life isn't like that.
 
2013-09-23 10:26:00 AM

PunGent: Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.

Not playing cards. There are people on this thread name-calling the black Somalis. Imagine what gets said in real life.

I just would like you to think when skinheads, adherents to the Christian faith call for my death, how would you like me to treat other Christians?

Yeah, skin heads suck.   Got a recent example of mass terrorism by them?  because shooting up a mall goes a bit beyond "calling" for something...


Muslims massacred in Bosnia is not a reflection of peaceful Christians.
Muslims massacred in Burma is not a reflection of peaceful Buddhists.
The Christian sniper in Iraq, who had God guiding his hand when he killed over a hundred males "of fighting age" (read anyone over a certain height), recently here on Fark is not a representative sample.
How many Muslim civilians were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during Bush's "Crusade"? (His choice of words, not mine). Please do the research on just how many children died. Use UNICEF numbers for a more trusted site.
And how many people here on Fark call to make that area into a 'glass parking lot'?
If that was representative of all of Fark, I wouldn't be here.

Luckily life isn't like that.
 
2013-09-23 10:37:29 AM

Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.

Not playing cards. There are people on this thread name-calling the black Somalis. Imagine what gets said in real life.

I just would like you to think when skinheads, adherents to the Christian faith call for my death, how would you like me to treat other Christians?

Yeah, skin heads suck.   Got a recent example of mass terrorism by them?  because shooting up a mall goes a bit beyond "calling" for something...

Muslims massacred in Bosnia is not a reflection of peaceful Christians.
Muslims massacred in Burma is not a reflection of peaceful Buddhists.
The Christian sniper who had God guiding his hand when he killed over a hundred males "of fighting age" recently here on Fark is not a representative sample.
How many Muslim civilians were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during Bush's "Crusade"? (His choice of words, not mine). Please do the research on just how many children died. Use UNICEF numbers for a more trusted site.
And how many people here on Fark call to make that area into a 'glass parking lot'?
If that was representative of all of Fark, I wouldn't be here.

Luckily life isn't like that.


This is like saying, How many civilians died in our heartless taking down of hittler. You are an apologist for death in the name of allah. How many more have freedom and were saved because of what the US did in Iraq and afghanistan. How many were dying before the US went in? How many would have continued to be killed? Bosnia? Where the US went in and saved muslims? Were the Serbs scraming THANK GOD!!! while killing and raping? Muslims kill more muslims than we ever have or will. You should really read up on the crusades, you know... the response to islam taking over that area by force.
Maybe if islam wasnt so savage other cultures would not have to baby sit it
 
2013-09-23 10:52:30 AM

limeyfellow: Attack the Cayman Islands. One bomb and you can take out the official headquarters of tens of thousands of US corporations.


I'm nit sure I've ever seen a US corporation that wasn't officially headquartered in Delaware.
 
2013-09-23 10:58:31 AM

Naesen: And not to forget the very similar battles between Catholic and Protestants in Ireland, very similar to the Sunni vs shiate, and if memory serves they only got over that fairly recently.


Ireland v. England was a mostly cultural battle with religious differences. Consider that Ireland and Scotland (Presbyterian) got along fairly well, and that Ireland was politically closer to Protestant Germany than Catholic France.

Think of it as the Kurds versus the Turks. There are religious differences, but primarily, it's two cultures that don't like each other.

Although Northern Ireland v. Ireland has stronger religious implications.
 
2013-09-23 11:00:53 AM

Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.

Not playing cards. There are people on this thread name-calling the black Somalis. Imagine what gets said in real life.

I just would like you to think when skinheads, adherents to the Christian faith call for my death, how would you like me to treat other Christians?

Yeah, skin heads suck.   Got a recent example of mass terrorism by them?  because shooting up a mall goes a bit beyond "calling" for something...

Muslims massacred in Bosnia is not a reflection of peaceful Christians.
Muslims massacred in Burma is not a reflection of peaceful Buddhists.
The Christian sniper in Iraq, who had God guiding his hand when he killed over a hundred males "of fighting age" (read anyone over a certain height), recently here on Fark is not a representative sample.
How many Muslim civilians were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan during Bush's "Crusade"? (His choice of words, not mine). Please do the research on just how many children died. Use UNICEF numbers for a more trusted site.
And how many people here on Fark call to make that area into a 'glass parking lot'?
If that was representative of all of Fark, I wouldn't be here.

Luckily life isn't like that.



Here's the fatal flaw in your reasoning.  Here's the fatal flaw committed by the Burmese Buddhists, by both sides of the conflict in Northern Ireland, and by countless others.

Religious community proceeds from individual faith, not the other way around.  The state of your soul is nobody's business but yours and your God's.  You are under no moral compunction whatsoever to follow the faith of your forebears.  Prophets, teachers, priests, imams, rabbis, ministers, etc. are there to advise and inspire, but each individual human being is ultimately responsible for his or her own fate.

"Religious" conflicts are almost always communitarian conflicts, where religion is a convenient, obvious means for determining the boundary of a community.  Even when religion has nothing to do with the real, or perceived, sources of the conflict.
 
2013-09-23 11:04:28 AM

Savage Belief: Arkanaut: skullkrusher: Arkanaut: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

Or, following GWOT logic, we're going to have to invade Australia.

well, if you're gonna invade someone, it makes a helluva lot more sense to invade the place that harbored their leader and abetted their plans than the place where their mom shat them out her cooch

So... how many of the hijackers on 9/11 were Iraqis again?

None. They were all US Americans. Haven't you been paying attention?


Can't be. US Americans don't have maps, so they wouldn't have found the Trade Center.
 
2013-09-23 12:01:48 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: They aren't Americans anymore. Once they took up arms for Allah Corporations and started killing innocent people for a political end Profits, they became mercenaries and terrorists, and have renounced any affiliation with America (if they are from here) or any other country they are from. They are not our citizens, feel free to kill the shiat out of them. We don't want them back.


This works too.
 
2013-09-23 12:10:30 PM

FLMountainMan: Naesen: Lorelle: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

You've forgotten about the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by Christians, and the Catholic priests who are still terrorizing children.

And not to forget the very similar battles between Catholic and Protestants in Ireland, very similar to the Sunni vs shiate, and if memory serves they only got over that fairly recently.

LOL.  All the cultural apologists love to cite the IRA.  Total death toll in 30 years of The Troubles - 3,530.  Or about 117 people per year.


Hey, the killings tend to get less efficient when alcohol isn't outlawed (and even less so when your country is renowned for it). The idea behind my statement basically was that the reasons were equally as silly despite the differences in magnitude. And to be fair, I don't remember many reports of the IRA targeting folks of distinctly different faiths.

tl;dr: not a cultural apologist, just pointing out that it's not uncommon to have any organization find a way to vilify others regardless of how inconsequential or silly the differences.

/Take away the Islam and these assholes will find some other reason to cram their turbans full of explosives.
 
2013-09-23 12:56:19 PM

TuteTibiImperes: TuteTibiImperes: This is why I have no problem with drone strikes against US citizens involved in terrorist organizations.  While they aren't official soldiers in an enemy's armed forces, for all intents and purposes, they're enemy combatants in the war on terror.

I should clarify, only those who have gone overseas.  If they're involved in terrorist actions on US soil, that should still be a matter for the police/FBI/DHS/insert-government-agency-here.


so are you saying you're OK for the US to just send in MQ-1 Predators to Nairobi and send a few  AGM-114N Metal Augmented Charge Thermobaric Hellfires through the windows of the Westgate Mall?

I'm afraid I'm quite understanding what you're saying here hotshot.
 
2013-09-23 05:01:27 PM

wickedragon: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.
Plenty of christian terrorists. Anders Bering Breivik, the most prolific single terrorist gunman in history is rabidly christian.
Plenty of buddhist terrorists as well.
And Hindi
And Jewish.

Mostly buddhist though. Those guys are really fond of murdering kids.

/not joking, although I bet some of you think so. I'm just really, really good at reading statistics (www.un.org) and buddhists are really, really violent.


But I've been assured by dozens of people that Buddhism isn't even a religion, and is all about peace! Are you telling me people would just get "involved" in a religion without knowing anything about it?
 
2013-09-23 05:09:50 PM

obamadidcoke: cman: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

There is a big difference: we aren't giving safe haven to those who purposefully target civilians

[commonsenseconspiracy.com image 463x312]
Yeah, we would never do that.


To be fair, this is a capability the US did not have before Bush II, so it's difficult to put those numbers into any kind of context.

Does the POTUS say when/where drones are used?
 
2013-09-23 05:14:00 PM

Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.


Anyone who thinks religious violence is in any way, shape, or form, confined to any religion in particular... is a moron.

Limiting yourself to JUST terrorist attacks within the last year, you will find Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, and more, having violence done directly in their names. Terrorism isn't limited to any religion.
 
2013-09-23 07:49:42 PM

LavenderWolf: obamadidcoke: cman: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

There is a big difference: we aren't giving safe haven to those who purposefully target civilians

[commonsenseconspiracy.com image 463x312]
Yeah, we would never do that.

To be fair, this is a capability the US did not have before Bush II, so it's difficult to put those numbers into any kind of context.

Does the POTUS say when/where drones are used?


Do you think he's in charge?

i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-09-23 09:05:56 PM
America's an easy country to recruit in, for Terrorist organizations. After all, just look at the Tea Party.
 
2013-09-24 08:20:28 AM

flynn80: Bit'O'Gristle: They aren't Americans anymore. Once they took up arms for Allah Corporations and started killing innocent people for a political end Profits, they became mercenaries and terrorists, and have renounced any affiliation with America (if they are from here) or any other country they are from. They are not our citizens, feel free to kill the shiat out of them. We don't want them back.

This works too.



Go home Occupy, you're drunk and you smell bad
 
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