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2013-09-23 12:40:43 AM

cptjeff: obamadidcoke: cman: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

There is a big difference: we aren't giving safe haven to those who purposefully target civilians

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Yeah, we would never do that.

Targeted killings are are used to kill military targets and are done to minimize civilian casualties- and that indeed works. Even if you doubt the official figure, we would be killing far, far more with any other strategy.

It's not a matter of targeted strikes or no strikes- it's a matter of a precision attack after a long period of monitoring to minimize civilian deaths versus a cruise missile strike or an actual boots on the ground military raid. It's a light footprint strategy that liberals should be happy about.

To compare that to a terrorist attack with the express goal of killing as many civilians as possible is incredibly disgusting and ignorant.



Having personally witnessed Hellfire missile impacts, I can assure you, it is no "light footprint".
Is it considered a viable form of foreign policy when rockets from Palestine impact Israel? Then why is it ok for the US to breach the sovereign airspace of foreign countries? How do we maintain the moral high ground to defend our actions, while condemning others who do pretty much the same thing?

I'm all for killing people who mean us harm. Get them before they get us.  Let's bomb some more funerals. That'll learn 'em.

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It is a complicated issue. Targeted strikes are NOT equivalent to terror attacks that purposefully harm civilians. But civilians still die. Children and women who have no connection other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. So you are right there, cptjeff, but playing whack-a-mole with drone strikes is not a long term strategy. This is a multi-dimensional problem the US faces on the world stage, and requires a multi dimensional strategy to address. Payloads don't stop wars. The threat of military force coupled with an increased focus on statecraft stands a chance.
 
2013-09-23 12:46:38 AM

Rapmaster2000: Is there anyone here that isn't trolling?


No.
 
2013-09-23 12:58:00 AM

Confabulat: I find the brand names on the Kenyan mall shelves to be far more interesting than all the shooting and pillaging and stuff.


In other news, Kenya has a four-story shopping mall.

/i need to get out more.
 
2013-09-23 01:02:33 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Confabulat: I find the brand names on the Kenyan mall shelves to be far more interesting than all the shooting and pillaging and stuff.

In other news, Kenya has a four-story shopping mall.

/i need to get out more.


Did you see the pictures of the ethnicities in that mall, compared to, for example, those of the responding police and military?  It's a mall for rich immigrants that are there for various jobs, the rich 1%'ers in Kenya.

Of course, that translates to 'middle class' here in the USA, but there you go.
 
2013-09-23 01:03:19 AM
Certainly looks like they're eating better over there now!
 
2013-09-23 01:08:06 AM
Huck and Molly Ziegler:
In other news, Kenya has a four-story shopping mall.

/i need to get out more



This is like the fifth time someone mentioned this.  Are Americans really that insular that they don't realize that probably most countries in the world have malls atleast in their largest cities?

Seriously, what is the big deal?  I assume Kenya also has paved highways and tall buildings as well, jeezus.
 
2013-09-23 01:11:17 AM

cabbyman: Certainly looks like they're eating better over there now!


If you can afford it.
 
2013-09-23 01:18:59 AM
Subby gets his info from people who fact check on Twitter.
 
2013-09-23 01:19:50 AM
Hey its ok, theyre just participating in their peaceful religion, who are we to tell them thats wrong?
 
2013-09-23 01:22:27 AM
Apparently our gun nuts are doing enough in this country, so we need to export them to other countries now?
 
2013-09-23 01:23:59 AM

Amos Quito: Five American gunmen involved?

Did an FBI "sting operation" get out of control, or what?


It was like 'No Russian' we just have to find out if the American chose to shoot the civilians or not.
 
2013-09-23 01:24:04 AM

sendtodave: trailerpimp: Yay multiculturalism !

Because you never find murderous right wing extremists in European-American culture.

The problem here is assimilation, to be sure, but don't get the root cause backwards. They're radicalized because American culture doesn't accept them, not the other way around.


So they attacked Kenya because some Americans kids picked on them (like every other immigrant ever).  Sounds legit.
 
2013-09-23 01:25:12 AM

OneDayWhat: Having personally witnessed Hellfire missile impacts, I can assure you, it is no "light footprint".


How do they compare with cruise missiles? Full on ground invasion? As military strategy goes, they're about as light as it gets. And that's the term used in defense policy circles. Light footprint means drone strikes and special ops, as contrasted with something like the Iraq invasion. We're taking out terrorist leaders without putting many US assets at risk, and without killing many innocents. If we take the use of military force as a given, and in this situation there ain't much alternative in the short term, that's how to do it. And don't act surprised. Obama ran on the light footprint strategy and ramping up drone strikes in 2008. Most people ignored that because it didn't quite jive with their vision of him, but he's been exactly as billed on that one.

OneDayWhat:

It is a complicated issue. Targeted strikes are NOT equivalent to terror attacks that purposefully harm civilians. But civilians still die. Children and women who have no connection other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. So you are right there, cptjeff, but playing whack-a-mole with drone strikes is not a long term strategy. This is a multi-dimensional problem the US faces on the world stage, and requires a multi dimensional strategy to address. Payloads don't stop wars. The threat of military force coupled with an increased focus on statecraft stands a chance.


I agree with all of that. We need a real long term strategy to prevent threats. We need to stop terrorism at its source, and that means actively building peace. We need to train civil society leaders, build up the rule of law, women's rights, and basically make communities stable and economically secure. That's a very long term process, and fortunately we're doing it. Look up the US Institute of Peace sometime, they're doing great work. We need to be smarter with development, and take much more integrated approaches to really address real problems. We need to see problems early, and head them off before they turn serious. Under Obama, State is making a real effort to do that with the Bureau of Conflict and Stabilization Operations.

There's real and serious long term work going on to create that multidimensional strategy to prevent wars. But it's the old ounce of prevention and pound of cure axiom- once something snowballs (at the risk of mixing analogies), you've got to roll with the punches. You've got to deal with the world you have, not the world you'd like to have.

What we cannot be is isolationist. We need real diplomatic engagement, even with people we hate. Yes, that means Iran. Yes, that means Hezbollah. Yes, Hamas. Yes, North Korea. Yes, every tinpot dictator in Africa. Yes, every kook in the Balkans. We need to engage at the ground level with civil society and local leaders. We need to be helping to create independent, fair and effective justice systems. We must engage. The world is too small for us not to. When we talk, we learn. We gain contacts, and knowing people on the ground really comes in handy when all of a sudden something happens and official news gets sketchy. Diplomatic contacts. Old fashioned spies. Intelligence agencies in the business of intelligence rather than acting as secret and unaccountable branches of our military.

But military force remains important as a tool. The world needs a police force. There needs to be an aircraft carrier sitting in the South China Sea to make sure China doesn't start beating up on Vietnamese shipping. There needs to be a carrier sitting in the Mediterranean or Red Sea to make sure a dictator thinks twice before launching a few jets and trying to take some nearby land. Right now, that's us. I'd really like to see our role decrease, and that of Europe increase. That's actually in process, but right now, it's us. And that makes us a target. So let's offer carrots, mitigate that somewhat, and in doing so, create real and sustainable solutions to human rights and economic issues around the world. That's a big, big ask. It would require a tremendous coordinated effort and vision. Probably not all that much more funding though, just a re-dedication of resources.

But that is all long term, and even as we execute a real long term plan based around peacebuilding and prevention, we still have to deal with short term military operations. And right now, in my opinion, the President's light footprint strategy is by far the best out of a lot of bad options.
 
2013-09-23 01:27:05 AM

SirEattonHogg: This is like the fifth time someone mentioned this.  Are Americans really that insular that they don't realize that probably most countries in the world have malls atleast in their largest cities?

Seriously, what is the big deal?  I assume Kenya also has paved highways and tall buildings as well, jeezus.


Are non-Americans really so feeble-minded that they for impressions of America from Fark.com posters?

As far as insular goes - drive ten hours east of Paris and you'll drive through four or five different nations.  Drive ten hours east of El Paso and you'll get to Houston.
 
2013-09-23 01:29:33 AM

flondrix: Rodeodoc: I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

"Today historians attribute the massacre to a combination of factors, including war hysteria about possible invasion of Mormon territory, and hyperbolic Mormon teachings against outsiders which were part of the excesses of the Mormon Reformation period."


You found one.  Treat yourself to a cookie.
 
2013-09-23 01:33:58 AM
I'll bite. How is this Obama's fault?
 
2013-09-23 01:36:38 AM

FLMountainMan: SirEattonHogg: This is like the fifth time someone mentioned this.  Are Americans really that insular that they don't realize that probably most countries in the world have malls atleast in their largest cities?

Seriously, what is the big deal?  I assume Kenya also has paved highways and tall buildings as well, jeezus.

Are non-Americans really so feeble-minded that they for impressions of America from Fark.com posters?

As far as insular goes - drive ten hours east of Paris and you'll drive through four or five different nations.  Drive ten hours east of El Paso and you'll get to Houston.


Nah, it's fairly accurate. Many, if not most, Americans really do think that just about everywhere in Africa is mud huts and loincloths. Take it from somebody who's taken comments from the general populace for a government agency before. By and large, we're pretty stupid about the rest of the world. But don't worry, so are the people in other countries- listen to World Have Your Say on BBC sometime. Everybody around the world is apparently just as dumb about the rest of it. Which is reassuring.
 
2013-09-23 01:42:15 AM

Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.


Pretty sure the IRA wasn't a muslim organisation.  Now were the numerous Americans who sent them money to buy semtex to blow up british pubs and shopping centres.

The one good thing that came out of 9/11 was a number of Americans suddenly waking up to the idea that funding terrorist organisations was maybe not socially acceptable any more.
 
2013-09-23 01:43:11 AM
*Nor, not now.
 
2013-09-23 01:55:22 AM
Looking at the pictures, does anybody else find it interesting that the army doesn't seem to have standardized uniforms or weapons?
 
2013-09-23 01:56:23 AM

limeyfellow: edmo: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

No. This means Kenya will invade some country that let's Americans live there and manage things.

Attack the Cayman Islands. One bomb and you can take out the official headquarters of tens of thousands of US corporations.


Have you ever considered running for office?
 
2013-09-23 02:09:21 AM
Modern Warfare what?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-23 02:27:17 AM
I guess they didn't get the stand down order.
 
2013-09-23 02:29:58 AM
Don't worry about Kenya. Once the Tea Party and Republicans start to really turn the screws on the American lower class, you'll probably be able to enjoy these exciting adventures first hand.
 
2013-09-23 02:36:23 AM
Great.  Home grown Islamonutjobs.  Time for for a purge.
 
2013-09-23 02:47:10 AM

Lorelle: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

You've forgotten about the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by Christians, and the Catholic priests who are still terrorizing children.


Ireland points at him and laughs as well.
 
2013-09-23 02:48:48 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Great.  Home grown Islamonutjobs.  Time for for a purge.


5 of them. Can we purge other religious people if I can point out 5?
 
2013-09-23 03:05:04 AM

Shadow Blasko: Amos Quito: Rincewind53:

Great post, but...

"they were shockingly successful at essentially selling a vision to these teenagers of righteous warfare against the puppet government that had caused their parents to flee in the '90s."

If I were a Somali ex pat living legally in the US, I would be down on my knees every day THANKING GOD for WHATEVER caused my parents to "flee" that shiathole.

Amen!

The Somali's here in Columbus appear to be actively attempting to destroy any semblance of order or community that the local black community has been fighting for for decades. It's really weird, and there is a tremendous amount of violence and just aggressive behavior between the Somali's and everyone else it seems.

I understand isolationist attitudes when you come from a farked up situation, but they are really aggro towards everyone here... to the point of throwing shiat (literally human feces) at your car at traffic lights to dissuade people from into "their area"

(I realize that sounds completely like some kind of super-racist propaganda BS thing to say, but I've actually seen them throw crap filled cloth diapers at "outsiders" (myself included) when I was sitting in a nearby strip mall parking lot waiting for an accident to get cleaned up so we could drive through the intersection.)



Wow, Shadow Blasko.

Don 't get me wrong - but I'd hate to lose a Farker that amazingly predicted an X-class solar flare - within an hour!

Hope you can vacate that poo-flinging haven of pirate wannabes for greener pastures - post haste!


/Godspeed, my good man
 
2013-09-23 03:21:32 AM

BravadoGT: Religion of Peace!


Minnesota nice!

img.fark.net
 
2013-09-23 03:29:14 AM

Lsherm: Shadow Blasko: Amos Quito: Rincewind53:

Great post, but...

"they were shockingly successful at essentially selling a vision to these teenagers of righteous warfare against the puppet government that had caused their parents to flee in the '90s."

If I were a Somali ex pat living legally in the US, I would be down on my knees every day THANKING GOD for WHATEVER caused my parents to "flee" that shiathole.

Amen!

The Somali's here in Columbus appear to be actively attempting to destroy any semblance of order or community that the local black community has been fighting for for decades. It's really weird, and there is a tremendous amount of violence and just aggressive behavior between the Somali's and everyone else it seems.

I understand isolationist attitudes when you come from a farked up situation, but they are really aggro towards everyone here... to the point of throwing shiat (literally human feces) at your car at traffic lights to dissuade people from into "their area"

(I realize that sounds completely like some kind of super-racist propaganda BS thing to say, but I've actually seen them throw crap filled cloth diapers at "outsiders" (myself included) when I was sitting in a nearby strip mall parking lot waiting for an accident to get cleaned up so we could drive through the intersection.)

What. The. Fark?

That's farked up even for Ohio, and I'm from there.  What the hell is their problem?



They're not "from there"?
 
2013-09-23 03:55:17 AM

BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica


Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.


/people will always find an excuse to justify
 
2013-09-23 04:07:46 AM

RINO: Looking at the pictures, does anybody else find it interesting that the army doesn't seem to have standardized uniforms or weapons?


I see maybe 2 - other than that it looks like they have a plain long coat for wet weather/rain gear, which they're wearing in many of the pictures.

Besides that, I do see 3 rifle types, which would make sense if you figure that the team with what look like SCARs are some sort of special forces, while the militia types have to make do with AKs and the police types have ARs.
 
2013-09-23 04:48:20 AM

liquidpoo: Rincewind53:
Al-Shabaab has been extremely successful in using the internet as well, and are one of the most tech-savvy jihadist groups out there. Omar Hammami, an Egyptian-American from the Atlanta area (I think), used to be their media guy and was a major Twitter user. They get on Twitter using internet cafes and their smart phones, or a number of other ways. They also use Youtube videos and forums to recruit people. Just last month they published a video celebrating the http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/08/08/fbi-al-shabaab-released-viole nt-video-to-recruit-minn-men-for-jihad/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>"Minnesota Martyrs", and are continuing to try to recruit in Minneapolis and in other hotbeds of the Somali diaspora. Similar waves of recruitment to what happened in Minneapolis occurred in Australia and in Toronto.

Al-Amriki
Omar was from Daphne, AL. Born from an American mother and a Syrian father. And most likely dead.


I had Omar on my short list for DeadPool 2014. Godamit.
 
2013-09-23 04:48:54 AM

cptjeff: FLMountainMan: SirEattonHogg: This is like the fifth time someone mentioned this.  Are Americans really that insular that they don't realize that probably most countries in the world have malls atleast in their largest cities?

Seriously, what is the big deal?  I assume Kenya also has paved highways and tall buildings as well, jeezus.

Are non-Americans really so feeble-minded that they for impressions of America from Fark.com posters?

As far as insular goes - drive ten hours east of Paris and you'll drive through four or five different nations.  Drive ten hours east of El Paso and you'll get to Houston.

Nah, it's fairly accurate. Many, if not most, Americans really do think that just about everywhere in Africa is mud huts and loincloths. Take it from somebody who's taken comments from the general populace for a government agency before. By and large, we're pretty stupid about the rest of the world. But don't worry, so are the people in other countries- listen to World Have Your Say on BBC sometime. Everybody around the world is apparently just as dumb about the rest of it. Which is reassuring.


There's a fun project up here to try and turn that kind of perception on its head:

http://www.africafornorway.no/
 
2013-09-23 05:13:08 AM

OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?


Not a bad idea. Maybe we could even try to build bridges and roads and provide health care to win over the hearts and minds of the people.
 
2013-09-23 05:16:57 AM

mediablitz: ThrobblefootSpectre: Great.  Home grown Islamonutjobs.  Time for for a purge.

5 of them. Can we purge other religious people if I can point out 5?


It's nice to see the right just being open about being OK with ethnic cleansing now.
 
2013-09-23 05:20:35 AM

Pointy Tail of Satan


Don't worry about Kenya. Once the Tea Party and Republicans start to really turn the screws on the American lower class, you'll probably be able to enjoy these exciting adventures first hand.


Holy shiat you turds don't let up. While I am amazed at your stupidity, I am equally amazed with your ability to make come up with the shiat people like you post. Muslims in Kenya shoot up a mall and you link it to economics, specifically, republicans destroying the lower class. Let me take a stab at it.

"Now that the Democrats have passed Obamacare Americans will be begging to get shot while shopping for clothes. It's either that or the long, slow death they will receive from the shiatty healthcare Obamacare is bringing us."

Man, that's harder than I thought when it's forced. You must be a genuine farkup to be so good at it.
 
2013-09-23 05:25:23 AM

Matthew Keene: Rest assured that none of the five will be named Robert Smith.


Why not?  He wrote "Killing an Arab," after all.
 
2013-09-23 05:45:21 AM
If you work at a gas station in St. Paul, now would be the time to don a blonde wig and call everybody 'sugar.'
 
2013-09-23 06:00:32 AM

cman: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

There is a big difference: we aren't giving safe haven to those who purposefully target civilians


Dick Cheney still lives here, last I checked...
 
2013-09-23 06:03:08 AM

Amos Quito: Rincewind53:

Great post, but...

"they were shockingly successful at essentially selling a vision to these teenagers of righteous warfare against the puppet government that had caused their parents to flee in the '90s."

If I were a Somali ex pat living legally in the US, I would be down on my knees every day THANKING GOD for WHATEVER caused my parents to "flee" that shiathole.

Amen!


I would be too, but remember:  we're talking teenagers here.  Not exactly the brightest animals on the planet...

Plus, Minnesota?  some of them probably signed up just to get someplace warm again :)
 
2013-09-23 06:10:51 AM
It's just a video game.
 
2013-09-23 06:16:51 AM

Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify


Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.
 
2013-09-23 06:38:32 AM

Amos Quito: cman: OtherBrotherDarryl: That means were going to invade ourselves now, right?

There is a big difference: we aren't giving safe haven to those who purposefully target civilians


Who is?




Pakistan. Iran. Sudan.
 
2013-09-23 06:46:49 AM
They aren't Americans anymore. Once they took up arms for Allah and started killing innocent people for a political end, they became mercenaries and terrorists, and have renounced any affiliation with America (if they are from here) or any other country they are from. They are not our citizens, feel free to kill the shiat out of them. We don't want them back.
 
2013-09-23 06:48:30 AM

rooftop235: mrlewish: skinink: How did that lady get in the vent to hide?

It's amazing what one can do when you know someone else is intent on putting a bullet in you.

This is true. I managed to brake, gas, brake, gas and shift a Toyota Celica out of a T style intersection while being shot at by a guy with a big ass revolver. Sucked to be him when he decided to hop back in his car and chase me all the way to buck road and arcata lane when I got to run back out of the house with an M1 and my buddy with a .44

No one died. But he and his wife got deported...





Wait, what? Going to need a more in depth story here bro.
 
2013-09-23 06:48:58 AM

PunGent: Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Abu Omar, al-Shabaab military commander in Somalia, denies that there were any Britans or Americans involved in the attack - @BBCAfrica

Nooo!!!
Don't say that!!

How else can we justify mistreating immigrants and blatant racism?!
We need to stir things up so that we get the beauty like some of the comments here.

/people will always find an excuse to justify

Sorry, Muslim isn't a "race", so you don't get to play the racism card.

When adherents of a religion call for my death, specifically, responding to that falls more into self-defense than bigotry, imho.  YMMV.


Not playing cards. There are people on this thread name-calling the black Somalis. Imagine what gets said in real life.

I just would like you to think when skinheads, adherents to the Christian faith call for my death, how would you like me to treat other Christians?

/all for self-Defence
//all against collateral damage, civilian casualties and light footprints
///slash hatred
 
2013-09-23 07:18:50 AM

Lorelle: Rodeodoc: FTA:Elaine Dang, 26, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, has been named as one of the injured and is recovering in hospital today. She tweeted on Sunday: 'I am recovering. Thank you for all the love and support - in Kenya and overseas. Terrorism knows no religion.'

Thanks for your vapid Berkeley indoctrinated platitudes, Ms Dang, and hopefully you recover form your injuries and your shock.  However, if you're laying money on terrorism and religion, you know you'll always be a winner with Islam.  I personally haven't seen a lot of terrorist attacks from, say, Mormons.  Or JW's.  Or Baptists, even though they are annoying.  Islam knows terrorism, and terrorism knows Islam.

Nice work on getting the American connection, NSA.

You've forgotten about the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by Christians, and the Catholic priests who are still terrorizing children.


And not to forget the very similar battles between Catholic and Protestants in Ireland, very similar to the Sunni vs shiate, and if memory serves they only got over that fairly recently.
 
2013-09-23 07:21:40 AM
I don't get why so many people died. I thought they all could run really fast.

/I'll take an aisle seat
//I usually have to use the bathroom
///is there food on the bus?
////I'll be in the slashy part of hell
 
2013-09-23 07:29:00 AM
Well since guns are illegal in Kenya it totally makes sense that the gunmen are American
 
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