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(Deadline)   Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. nets itself 1 million Facebook fans before its premiere, so clearly this means it will become an unqualified success   (deadline.com) divider line 47
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2013-09-22 04:15:27 PM
Because that worked so well for Snakes on a Plane.
 
2013-09-22 06:15:47 PM
It just means that fan boys can't cry about it not getting enough promotion.
 
2013-09-22 06:16:08 PM
I liked it.
 
2013-09-22 06:20:31 PM
Who?
 
2013-09-22 06:21:40 PM

FrancoFile: Because that worked so well for Snakes on a Plane.


Snakes on a Plane exceeded my expectations, which were low. What's the commercial success line in that movie?
 
2013-09-22 06:28:35 PM
Snakes on a Plane is a very bad example because the movie did turn a profit. It wasn't a flop. It just wasn't the huge hit internet fanboys expected. Still, it was no Lone Ranger.
 
2013-09-22 06:30:18 PM
You want a million likes on facebook? Give me 50 grand and I can put my bot army to work.
 
2013-09-22 06:30:55 PM
Sure, because fanboys won't overrate stuff on the internet even before they've seen it because of some need to promote "their" team?

Conversely:

Sure, because it's an offshoot of a well-received movie and credited to the guy who was also credited for the movie?
 
2013-09-22 06:33:44 PM

AwfulJackass: You want a million likes on facebook? Give me 50 grand and I can put my bot army to work.


Put that shiat up on Kickstarter and name it the "Save Agents of SHIELD and avenge Dollhouse".  You'll get 50 grand in less than a day.
 
2013-09-22 06:48:58 PM
Hey guys whats going on in this thread?....

Oh hell no.
 
2013-09-22 07:02:41 PM

Six_By_Nine: AwfulJackass: You want a million likes on facebook? Give me 50 grand and I can put my bot army to work.

Put that shiat up on Kickstarter and name it the "Save Agents of SHIELD and avenge Dollhouse".  You'll get 50 grand in less than a day.


I have a lot of hope for it.  To their credit ABC has been doing a much better job of promoting it than Fox ever did with Dollhouse or Firefly, plus, it does have a pretty huge franchise behind it which should help with popular appeal.

Heroes did well from what I recall until the writers lost track of what they were doing and sent the whole thing spiraling down, and if there's one thing Whedon's always been good at, it's been executing longform plot arcs and intricate interweaving storylines.
 
2013-09-22 07:06:16 PM
On the one hand, it'll bring in a lot of casual viewers who liked the movie.
But on the other hand, those viewers may be expecting a continuation of the movie, which, for budgetary reasons, the show may not be able to deliver on.

It looks pretty good, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
2013-09-22 07:07:09 PM
They had a chart in last week's EW that graphed a poll on "Awareness" and "Intent to View". SHIELD easily beat every other new show coming out. The premiere will get gangbuster ratings, that's almost guaranteed. After that, who knows?

The only other show that had anywhere near the same Awareness level was the new Michael J Fox show, but it had an abysmal Intent to View rating.
 
2013-09-22 07:10:41 PM

fusillade762: They had a chart in last week's EW that graphed a poll on "Awareness" and "Intent to View". SHIELD easily beat every other new show coming out. The premiere will get gangbuster ratings, that's almost guaranteed. After that, who knows?

The only other show that had anywhere near the same Awareness level was the new Michael J Fox show, but it had an abysmal Intent to View rating.


I'm going to give the new Michael J Fox show a chance.  I loved Spin City, and I admire that he's pushing himself to do something as rigorous as a TV show considering his condition.

I try to avoid reading the critics screener reviews before new premiers just so that they don't color my opinions.
 
2013-09-22 07:25:43 PM

TuteTibiImperes: fusillade762: They had a chart in last week's EW that graphed a poll on "Awareness" and "Intent to View". SHIELD easily beat every other new show coming out. The premiere will get gangbuster ratings, that's almost guaranteed. After that, who knows?

The only other show that had anywhere near the same Awareness level was the new Michael J Fox show, but it had an abysmal Intent to View rating.

I'm going to give the new Michael J Fox show a chance.  I loved Spin City, and I admire that he's pushing himself to do something as rigorous as a TV show considering his condition.

I try to avoid reading the critics screener reviews before new premiers just so that they don't color my opinions.


You don't like colored opinions?
Racist.
 
2013-09-22 07:49:29 PM
Oh for fark's sake, the show hasn't even started yet and there's already a backlash?  Lighten up Internet.
 
2013-09-22 07:55:27 PM

Mentat: Oh for fark's sake, the show hasn't even started yet and there's already a backlash?  Lighten up Internet.


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2013-09-22 07:56:10 PM

Mentat: Oh for fark's sake, the show hasn't even started yet and there's already a backlash?  Lighten up Internet.


We hated it before it was cool broadcast?
 
2013-09-22 08:01:32 PM
I'm going on record as hating the Hulk: Agents of S.M.A.S.H. live-action series that no one is developing.
 
2013-09-22 08:02:32 PM
Too bad it isn't owned by a parent company that can put some advertising bucks behind it.

Seriously this show is the only one of the new season that I know I am absolutely going to watch. I think I'm going to give the Robin Williams/SMG show a shot too.
 
2013-09-22 09:58:21 PM
Speaking as the man who renamed SHIELD in 1990, I approve of this message.

/the movie/tv version kept 3 of my words -- one of the original.
 
2013-09-22 10:15:45 PM

Solon Isonomia: Mentat: Oh for fark's sake, the show hasn't even started yet and there's already a backlash?  Lighten up Internet.

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That doesn't apply here.  Is there a "stop hating what you don't yet have any reason to hate" meme yet?  Because there should be.
 
2013-09-22 10:24:09 PM
I think we all want to see how Agent Colston reconciles with Old Christine.
 
2013-09-22 10:31:45 PM

TuteTibiImperes: fusillade762: They had a chart in last week's EW that graphed a poll on "Awareness" and "Intent to View". SHIELD easily beat every other new show coming out. The premiere will get gangbuster ratings, that's almost guaranteed. After that, who knows?

The only other show that had anywhere near the same Awareness level was the new Michael J Fox show, but it had an abysmal Intent to View rating.

I'm going to give the new Michael J Fox show a chance.  I loved Spin City, and I admire that he's pushing himself to do something as rigorous as a TV show considering his condition.

I try to avoid reading the critics screener reviews before new premiers just so that they don't color my opinions.


I plan on checking out both the Michael J Fox show and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.  That being said, I was actually pleasantly surprised by the premiere episode of Sleepy Hollow, and that Brooklyn Nine-Nine show was actually pretty funny too ( I  was more interested in seeing Andre Braugher in it than just about anyone else.  Didn't even know Terry Crews was in it until the premiere.)
 
2013-09-22 10:46:51 PM
I watched the first scene on Xbox Video, and I have to say the voice-over sucks. You can almost hear the actress rolling her eyes and acting goofy because she doesn't take the series' subject matter seriously. I picture her mouthing the words, "This is so dorky!" between takes. It really comes off that way, anyway.

I want to love this show. The CW-style casting is really making me worried. Mix bad twenty-something actors with Joss Whedon's banter, and you get a situation where the actors can't sell their lines.

I'm already wary of the Whedon formula in place (the only older character is the "mentor" figure. Everyone else is a hot 20-something with skills beyond their years) and my biggest hope is that they bring in more characters over 35 and make them series regulars. I really don't want to watch S.H.I.E.L.D. turn into Mystery Incorporated.
 
2013-09-22 10:57:23 PM
Dare I ask where Jim Steranko figures in all this? He's like Marvel's Forgotten Man.
(and lest I forget, T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents got there first. Why ain't Wally Wood's heirs rich yet?)
 
2013-09-22 10:59:12 PM

ZeroCorpse: I'm already wary of the Whedon formula in place (the only older character is the "mentor" figure. Everyone else is a hot 20-something with skills beyond their years) and my biggest hope is that they bring in more characters over 35 and make them series regulars. I really don't want to watch S.H.I.E.L.D. turn into Mystery Incorporated.


So we're just going to ignore 50 year old Ming-Na Wen?
 
2013-09-22 11:00:27 PM

ZeroCorpse: I'm already wary of the Whedon formula in place (the only older character is the "mentor" figure. Everyone else is a hot 20-something with skills beyond their years)


Myeh, Clark Gregg and Ming-Na are both fifty. Apart from that we have a precocious hacker and a newbie agent, both of whom are quite reasonably in their 20s. It's really only the two scientists who seem younger than they should be.
 
2013-09-22 11:00:29 PM

Mentat: ZeroCorpse: I'm already wary of the Whedon formula in place (the only older character is the "mentor" figure. Everyone else is a hot 20-something with skills beyond their years) and my biggest hope is that they bring in more characters over 35 and make them series regulars. I really don't want to watch S.H.I.E.L.D. turn into Mystery Incorporated.

So we're just going to ignore 50 year old Ming-Na Wen?


She's 50 ?  Wow, she's held up well.
 
2013-09-22 11:03:22 PM

Gunther: Myeh, Clark Gregg and Ming-Na are both fifty. Apart from that we have a precocious hacker and a newbie agent, both of whom are quite reasonably in their 20s. It's really only the two scientists who seem younger than they should be.


And we are talking about the Marvel Universe where people like Peter Parker, Tony Stark, Reed Richards and Amadeus Cho were all super-geniuses as teenagers.
 
2013-09-22 11:07:49 PM

TuteTibiImperes: She's 50 ?  Wow, she's held up well.


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2013-09-22 11:32:28 PM

Mentat: ZeroCorpse: I'm already wary of the Whedon formula in place (the only older character is the "mentor" figure. Everyone else is a hot 20-something with skills beyond their years) and my biggest hope is that they bring in more characters over 35 and make them series regulars. I really don't want to watch S.H.I.E.L.D. turn into Mystery Incorporated.

So we're just going to ignore 50 year old Ming-Na Wen?


Not to mention Ron Glass (in his 60s) and J. August Richards (Just hit 40) are supposed to be in the show too.
 
2013-09-23 12:04:32 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Mentat: ZeroCorpse: I'm already wary of the Whedon formula in place (the only older character is the "mentor" figure. Everyone else is a hot 20-something with skills beyond their years) and my biggest hope is that they bring in more characters over 35 and make them series regulars. I really don't want to watch S.H.I.E.L.D. turn into Mystery Incorporated.

So we're just going to ignore 50 year old Ming-Na Wen?

She's 50 ?  Wow, she's held up well.


Yeah, wow... color me surprised. I thought she was going to be the token early-30s "mature" member of the team.

If that's 50, I feel pretty encouraged about being 42.
 
2013-09-23 01:48:06 AM

OhioKnight: Speaking as the man who renamed SHIELD in 1990, I approve of this message.

/the movie/tv version kept 3 of my words -- one of the original.


ok...you rock!
 
2013-09-23 02:06:55 AM
 
2013-09-23 03:19:20 AM

OhioKnight: Speaking as the man who renamed SHIELD in 1990, I approve of this message.

/the movie/tv version kept 3 of my words -- one of the original.


You had the perfect chance to use the 'I know what I'm talking about meme' here!
 
2013-09-23 03:29:08 AM
One of my pet peeves with the universe of the movies is how they introduced the acronym.  Coulson first ids himself from [long winded already fitting the acronym] government department and calls it SHIELD later, like a reveal that no one might have picked up on.  I MUCH prefer the snark in the promo regarding the name.

I would have preferred either a generic governmental name at first, then reveal the renaming/acronym later, or a sillier acronym at first, then modified later.

The instant *I* hear a long winded name like that I start parsing for an acronym immediately.

Was there a particular book where the SHIELD name changed, I don't quite recall if there was much ado about it or not?
 
2013-09-23 11:25:22 AM

fluffy_pope: Dare I ask where Jim Steranko figures in all this? He's like Marvel's Forgotten Man.
(and lest I forget, T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents got there first. Why ain't Wally Wood's heirs rich yet?)


They just put out a Complete Steranko SHIELD trade paperback.
 
2013-09-23 11:35:12 AM

Qaiwolf: One of my pet peeves with the universe of the movies is how they introduced the acronym.  Coulson first ids himself from [long winded already fitting the acronym] government department and calls it SHIELD later, like a reveal that no one might have picked up on.  I MUCH prefer the snark in the promo regarding the name.

I would have preferred either a generic governmental name at first, then reveal the renaming/acronym later, or a sillier acronym at first, then modified later.

The instant *I* hear a long winded name like that I start parsing for an acronym immediately.

Was there a particular book where the SHIELD name changed, I don't quite recall if there was much ado about it or not?


I just think it's weird that they changed what it stands for.

Originally:   Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to:  Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to:  Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division.

I mean, what's wrong with the original?
 
2013-09-23 12:12:32 PM

ZeroCorpse: Qaiwolf: One of my pet peeves with the universe of the movies is how they introduced the acronym.  Coulson first ids himself from [long winded already fitting the acronym] government department and calls it SHIELD later, like a reveal that no one might have picked up on.  I MUCH prefer the snark in the promo regarding the name.

I would have preferred either a generic governmental name at first, then reveal the renaming/acronym later, or a sillier acronym at first, then modified later.

The instant *I* hear a long winded name like that I start parsing for an acronym immediately.

Was there a particular book where the SHIELD name changed, I don't quite recall if there was much ado about it or not?

I just think it's weird that they changed what it stands for.

Originally:   Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to:  Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to:  Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division.

I mean, what's wrong with the original?


It sounds hokey and out-dated.  The new version is more modern and fits in with a post-9/11 world.
 
2013-09-23 12:57:47 PM

ZeroCorpse: I just think it's weird that they changed what it stands for.

Originally: Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to: Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to: Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division


What does S.W.O.R.D. stand for?  It's going to turn up in the Cinematic Universe soon.
 
2013-09-23 01:13:53 PM
S,W,O.R.D = S Word = shiat.
 
2013-09-23 04:40:20 PM

ZeroCorpse: Qaiwolf: One of my pet peeves with the universe of the movies is how they introduced the acronym.  Coulson first ids himself from [long winded already fitting the acronym] government department and calls it SHIELD later, like a reveal that no one might have picked up on.  I MUCH prefer the snark in the promo regarding the name.

I would have preferred either a generic governmental name at first, then reveal the renaming/acronym later, or a sillier acronym at first, then modified later.

The instant *I* hear a long winded name like that I start parsing for an acronym immediately.

Was there a particular book where the SHIELD name changed, I don't quite recall if there was much ado about it or not?

I just think it's weird that they changed what it stands for.

Originally:   Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to:  Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to:  Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division.

I mean, what's wrong with the original?


This just strikes me as so silly.  It's obvious they want to call the organization "shield."  Why bother with a tortured acronym?
 
2013-09-23 05:49:18 PM

Esc7: Originally: Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to: Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to: Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division.

I mean, what's wrong with the original?

This just strikes me as so silly. It's obvious they want to call the organization "shield." Why bother with a tortured acronym?


So that comic book nerds will argue and obsess over it, therefore expanding your mindshare and providing you with free publicity.
 
2013-09-23 06:09:21 PM

Nefarious: ZeroCorpse: I just think it's weird that they changed what it stands for.

Originally: Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to: Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to: Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division

What does S.W.O.R.D. stand for?  It's going to turn up in the Cinematic Universe soon.


Sentient World Observation and Response Department/Directorate, though I'd change it to Stellar Warfare Operations and Research Directorate.
 
2013-09-23 10:00:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I have a lot of hope for it. To their credit ABC has been doing a much better job of promoting it than Fox ever did with Dollhouse or Firefly, plus, it does have a pretty huge franchise behind it which should help with popular appeal.


You also have to remember that Disney owns both ABC and Marvel.  It's in their best interests to keep AoS going for as long as possible because it's essentially a way for them to keep people interested in Marvel movies between cinematic releases.

From a business standpoint, they're going to do everything they can to make it succeed.  From a creative standpoint, you have Joss directing the premiere and overseeing the show while consulting on all the other features that he's not directing.
 
2013-09-24 01:03:08 AM

ZeroCorpse: Qaiwolf: ..

Was there a particular book where the SHIELD name changed, I don't quite recall if there was much ado about it or not?

I just think it's weird that they changed what it stands for.

Originally:   Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division.
Changed to:  Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate.

and then the Marvel Cinematic Universe changed it to:  Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division.

I mean, what's wrong with the original?


Supreme Headquarters OF WHAT?  Division OF WHAT?
and "Law-Enforcement"? -- that's S.H.I.E.L.E.D.

When Mark Gruenwald was setting up a new SHIELD comic in 1990, he decided that the stupid acronym was stupid and mentioned to me at Mid-Ohio Con that they were looking for a replacement.  I had written a fanzine article about stupid comic spy acronyms (see T.H.U.N.D.E.R.) and possible replacements when I was working for the DOD in a Secret position in the early 80's, so I already had a suggested replacement acronym on the tip of my tongue.  He liked it, wrote it down and used it (I got credited in a letters page).

SHIELD, from the first story, was intended to counter an international non-state-actor (Hydra) that had freaking Jack Kirby AIRCRAFT CARRIERS!  In Defense terms that's a STRATEGIC threat. And Nick Fury  (who apparently got recruited by Tony Stark to run the whole thing so Stark wouldn't have to do it) was universally referred to as the DIRECTOR so it was a DIRECTORATE.

The government in the Marvel universe would need an agency to do things that the military, CIA, FBI, etc. weren't able to handle -- and in the pre-9/11 world, there were actual restrictions on agencies limiting authority (like the CIA not being able to work in the US)

So:
Strategic Hazard Intervention... unlike the CIA, DIA, and FBI, SHIELD only deals with strategic threats -- limited authority, Espionage because they were a covert/spy agency,  Logistics because I needed an "L" and govt. agencies love the word "logistics", Directorate because Fury runs the thing himself and he's always called "Director"

/Tactical Hierarchy Utilizing Newly Developed Experimental Resources -- you're welcome.
 
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