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2013-09-22 04:09:33 PM
Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.
 
2013-09-22 04:16:12 PM
Deniers DO realize that climate is a complex non-linear system, right? It actually tries really hard to stay in its current configuration thanks to a large number of feedback loops, so everything will look pretty normal until you get that 1 ppm of CO2 that breaks the camel's back and weather patterns start shifting quickly. It won't be as dramatic as that Day After Tomorrow bullshiat, but it will cause some major disruptions in a fairly short period of time as new feedback loops kick in and the system finds a new stable state.

/Don't turn your back on Mother Earth. She'll cut a biatch.
 
2013-09-22 04:19:15 PM
Sucks, does your blog.
Say it in Yoda's voice.
 
2013-09-22 04:21:14 PM
Solar minimum around 2020. Making a little iceage.
The suns been pretty quiet for this maximum anyways.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/12/1044718/-Mini-Ice-Age-No-so la r-maximum-in-2020


/In other news: The arctic is now freezing for this winter.
//Pacific NorthWest to get a bit of cooling over the next 5 days or so, as cold air is sweeping down.
 
2013-09-22 04:26:43 PM
I hate the use of the word "stubbornly." Global warming is a real phenomenon, and it is concerning, but if it's slowing down, that's a good thing that we should celebrate. We shouldn't be rooting for the earth to be destroyed so we can feel vindicated that our models were correct. That's completely farking insane and sociopathic.
 
2013-09-22 04:27:51 PM

Mad_Radhu: Deniers DO realize that climate is a complex non-linear system, right? It actually tries really hard to stay in its current configuration thanks to a large number of feedback loops, so everything will look pretty normal until you get that 1 ppm of CO2 that breaks the camel's back and weather patterns start shifting quickly. It won't be as dramatic as that Day After Tomorrow bullshiat, but it will cause some major disruptions in a fairly short period of time as new feedback loops kick in and the system finds a new stable state.

/Don't turn your back on Mother Earth. She'll cut a biatch.


Yep that's right, "climate change" is now everything and anything. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be "denying" anymore.

/before you put on your lense-less glasses, stroke your beard, and write out a "hilarious" sarcastic response, just know that I do believe that pollution is bad, and needs to stop
 
2013-09-22 04:28:29 PM

captainktainer: Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arcti c- ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html
 
2013-09-22 04:31:13 PM

Eric_Stratton_rush_chairman: captainktainer: Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arcti c- ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html


That article has been debunked and destroyed so many times, and in so many places, that it isn't even funny.
 
2013-09-22 04:34:58 PM

Tommy Moo: I hate the use of the word "stubbornly." Global warming is a real phenomenon, and it is concerning, but if it's slowing down, that's a good thing that we should celebrate. We shouldn't be rooting for the earth to be destroyed so we can feel vindicated that our models were correct. That's completely farking insane and sociopathic.


I guess it could also be the problem with the public having no idea about sample size.  You have to talk about climate in terms of decades and centuries, not years.  It's like those idiots who feel a bit chilly for a day in the summer and say things like, "So much for global warming."

I think people that are concerned about climate change would prefer that we witness a slow progression towards disaster so that the powers that be realize it'll be in their economic best interest to solve the problem.  Likely though, the change will increase in speed as the problems causing it worsen (as others have mentioned in the thread).

"Stubborn" is maybe not the best word to use, but I can't argue with the logic behind choosing a word like it.
 
2013-09-22 04:35:56 PM

Mad_Radhu: Deniers DO realize that climate is a complex non-linear system, right?


They think climate change is a secret communist conspiracy invented by Al Gore.  Asking them to understand non-linear dynamic systems is just cruel.  May as well try to teach calculus to a goldfish.
 
2013-09-22 04:44:43 PM
Well, as long as you don't plan on being alive in 2030, sounds like a great deal!!!!
 
2013-09-22 04:47:48 PM
 
2013-09-22 04:50:14 PM

Tommy Moo: I hate the use of the word "stubbornly." Global warming is a real phenomenon, and it is concerning, but if it's slowing down, that's a good thing that we should celebrate. We shouldn't be rooting for the earth to be destroyed so we can feel vindicated that our models were correct. That's completely farking insane and sociopathic.


Pretty sure that was the point of the trolling headline.  If you believe climate change is happening, that's because you want it to happen.  If you want it to happen, it can only be because you want the UN/scientists/treehuggers/etc. to take over the world's economies.  Why would you believe something is happening if you think it's bad?

I honestly think that something like this kind of thinking is as work deep in the subconscious of many people.  Particularly when it comes to science denial.
 
2013-09-22 04:54:23 PM

Mad_Radhu: Deniers DO realize that climate is a complex non-linear system, right? It actually tries really hard to stay in its current configuration thanks to a large number of feedback loops, so everything will look pretty normal until you get that 1 ppm of CO2 that breaks the camel's back and weather patterns start shifting quickly. It won't be as dramatic as that Day After Tomorrow bullshiat, but it will cause some major disruptions in a fairly short period of time as new feedback loops kick in and the system finds a new stable state.


You don't have to be a "denier" to start to ask questions about predictions that don't show results after a considerable period of time, though.

We have not had any statistically significant global warming since 1995. Now, you can call me a big oil apologist for pointing that out, or you can at least acknowledge that the global warming model, the ones developed by the likes of Hadley aren't working, and this isn't just the odd, isolated year.
 
2013-09-22 05:05:38 PM
captainktainer
2013-09-22 04:09:33 PM


Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.

Yup, that ice is allllllllllmost all gone
link1

link2


Just because all those "scientific" predictions have failed Scientific testing... well, that's no reason to question anything.
 
2013-09-22 05:07:12 PM
HMS_Blinkin

Well, as long as you don't plan on being alive in 2030, sounds like a great deal!!!!

You're side's earlier predictions were for EOTWAWKI by 2k. Keep moving that goal post.
 
2013-09-22 05:07:46 PM
Can we take back Al Gore's Nobel Prize?
 
2013-09-22 05:08:47 PM

Eric_Stratton_rush_chairman: captainktainer: Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arcti c- ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html


And here's the debunking of that "article"

=Smidge=
 
2013-09-22 05:14:58 PM

Tommy Moo: We shouldn't be rooting for the earth to be destroyed so we can feel vindicated that our models were correct.


The models aren't incorrect, it's the planet.
 
2013-09-22 05:15:56 PM

Eric_Stratton_rush_chairman: captainktainer: Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arcti c- ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html


Surface area != total volume.
 
2013-09-22 05:15:56 PM

Eric_Stratton_rush_chairman: captainktainer: Considering that the ice caps keep melting, forests keep dying, and the ocean keeps acidifying, calling what's happening a global warming "pause" is the kind of stupidity that I expect from greentext and that idiot from Wyoming. Shame on you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arcti c- ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html


If you lose 90% of your savings, and then manage to increase what little you have left by 200%, does that mean you're handling your money well?  I mean, a 200% increase is really impressive!
 
2013-09-22 05:18:14 PM
I really have to ask the climate change deniers, if all of the climatologists are actually engaged in some evil conspiracy, what do you think their end game is?   Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that you're correct; climate is perfectly stable, there's no cause for concern, and all of the cliamtologists are simply running some sort of scam.  Let's assume you're right, it's all a con.  They've obviously put a lot of work into it, so what is their goal?What do you think they are getting out of it?

Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil?  Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?

I just don't understand what the deniers think is actually happening.  Help me out here.  Why is the evil international climate conspiracy doing it?  To what end?
 
2013-09-22 05:19:34 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-22 05:31:23 PM
 
2013-09-22 05:36:17 PM

farkeruk: Mad_Radhu: Deniers DO realize that climate is a complex non-linear system, right? It actually tries really hard to stay in its current configuration thanks to a large number of feedback loops, so everything will look pretty normal until you get that 1 ppm of CO2 that breaks the camel's back and weather patterns start shifting quickly. It won't be as dramatic as that Day After Tomorrow bullshiat, but it will cause some major disruptions in a fairly short period of time as new feedback loops kick in and the system finds a new stable state.

You don't have to be a "denier" to start to ask questions about predictions that don't show results after a considerable period of time, though.

We have not had any statistically significant global warming since 1995. Now, you can call me a big oil apologist for pointing that out, or you can at least acknowledge that the global warming model, the ones developed by the likes of Hadley aren't working, and this isn't just the odd, isolated year.


No one is calling you an apologist. I can tell you that your assertions are not supported by evidence.
 
2013-09-22 05:39:47 PM

Tommy Moo: I hate the use of the word "stubbornly." Global warming is a real phenomenon, and it is concerning, but if it's slowing down, that's a good thing that we should celebrate.


If it's slowing down, it's as though by magic, not the human activities that continue unabated.
Yes, superstitious humans, er, huu-maaans, celebrate the magic of the imaginary Earth gods!
Celebrate the MAGIC!
 
2013-09-22 05:43:30 PM

FloydA: I really have to ask the climate change deniers, if all of the climatologists are actually engaged in some evil conspiracy, what do you think their end game is?   Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that you're correct; climate is perfectly stable, there's no cause for concern, and all of the cliamtologists are simply running some sort of scam.  Let's assume you're right, it's all a con.  They've obviously put a lot of work into it, so what is their goal?What do you think they are getting out of it?

Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil?  Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?

I just don't understand what the deniers think is actually happening.  Help me out here.  Why is the evil international climate conspiracy doing it?  To what end?


I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem. If there is no climate problem then these people have no job future. The current fixation on global warming has resulted in millions if not billions of dollars of additional funding for their research. If it turns out they were wrong then they are out of work. So, to no little surprise, they continue to keep the myth alive at any cost to protect their jobs.

Bottom Line: Job Security...
 
2013-09-22 05:46:28 PM

FloydA: Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil? Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?


Green Energy is the new Big Oil; it's about money. Even if today we were 90% "green" humans will consume the Earth. None of us will be around for the end and you might as well enjoy the ride while you are here. Our species is the problem.
 
2013-09-22 05:48:19 PM
Hey, IPCC, have fun explaining how the biggest driver is natural variability, just like non-Chicken Littles have been saying for 15+ years now.

IPCC: Natural variability is anthropogenic.......deeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpppp.
 
2013-09-22 05:49:45 PM

Mad_Radhu: so everything will look pretty normal until you get that 1 ppm of CO2 that breaks the camel's back


And it's juuuuuuuuuuuuuuust around the corner, huh?
 
2013-09-22 05:49:58 PM

farkeruk: We have not had any statistically significant global warming since 1995. Now, you can call me a big oil apologist for pointing that out, or you can at least acknowledge that the global warming model, the ones developed by the likes of Hadley aren't working, and this isn't just the odd, isolated year.


Butbutbut, shut up! The science is in! You can't question things like this is some religion, you need to accept our judgements and fark you for saying we should expect the models of hypotheses to be applicable to future events!
 
2013-09-22 05:50:10 PM

runner_one: I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem.


How does this work, exactly?

I mean, how does reporting that the global climate is changing help ensure their jobs?

And do you have the slightest idea what those research jobs pay, and how difficult they are? Are you sure that if these people were willing to lie - and put their reputations and careers on the line - for the sake of a paycheck, that that wouldn't choose a more lucrative subject to lie about?

Do you suppose there are any well established industries that might ALSO be concerned about their jobs if global climate change is actually true, and they THEY might try to discredit anyone saying that human activity is harming the climate in an attempt to protect their billions of dollars in annual profit?

I'm seriously asking; if you think "keeping your job" is a motivation, which side do you suppose has more invested in this fight?
=Smidge=
 
2013-09-22 05:52:17 PM

FloydA: I really have to ask the climate change deniers, if all of the climatologists are actually engaged in some evil conspiracy, what do you think their end game is?   Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that you're correct; climate is perfectly stable, there's no cause for concern, and all of the cliamtologists are simply running some sort of scam.  Let's assume you're right, it's all a con.  They've obviously put a lot of work into it, so what is their goal?What do you think they are getting out of it?

Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil?  Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?

I just don't understand what the deniers think is actually happening.  Help me out here.  Why is the evil international climate conspiracy doing it?  To what end?




One world government!
 
2013-09-22 05:56:53 PM

Smidge204: And do you have the slightest idea what those research jobs pay, and how difficult they are? Are you sure that if these people were willing to lie - and put their reputations and careers on the line - for the sake of a paycheck, that that wouldn't choose a more lucrative subject to lie about?


Yah, unfortunately researchers are analogous to fry cooks in a multitrillion dollar industry.
 
2013-09-22 05:58:50 PM

Subby's Mother: farkeruk: We have not had any statistically significant global warming since 1995. Now, you can call me a big oil apologist for pointing that out, or you can at least acknowledge that the global warming model, the ones developed by the likes of Hadley aren't working, and this isn't just the odd, isolated year.

Butbutbut, shut up! The science is in! You can't question things like this is some religion, you need to accept our judgements and fark you for saying we should expect the models of hypotheses to be applicable to future events!


Your comment seems to imply that they aren't. Any evidence?
 
2013-09-22 06:02:33 PM

Smidge204: I mean, how does reporting that the global climate is changing help ensure their jobs?


You know how I know you don't understand grant renewal?
 
2013-09-22 06:02:46 PM

runner_one: FloydA: I really have to ask the climate change deniers, if all of the climatologists are actually engaged in some evil conspiracy, what do you think their end game is?   Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that you're correct; climate is perfectly stable, there's no cause for concern, and all of the cliamtologists are simply running some sort of scam.  Let's assume you're right, it's all a con.  They've obviously put a lot of work into it, so what is their goal?What do you think they are getting out of it?

Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil?  Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?

I just don't understand what the deniers think is actually happening.  Help me out here.  Why is the evil international climate conspiracy doing it?  To what end?

I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem. If there is no climate problem then these people have no job future. The current fixation on global warming has resulted in millions if not billions of dollars of additional funding for their research. If it turns out they were wrong then they are out of work. So, to no little surprise, they continue to keep the myth alive at any cost to protect their jobs.

Bottom Line: Job Security...



That makes no sense whatsoever.  Scientists make their reputations by finding flaws in each others' work.  if someone publishes bogus data, they lose their reputation, and often their career, and the scientist who discovered the flaw gains status (and often better funding).

In order for all of the climatologists to be publishing faulty data, they would all have to be in on a vast conspiracy, just to keep from destroying each others' reputations.  But then, if they were all in on it, the one climatologist who was willing to break the code of silence and expose the others would become an instant celebrity and probably very, very wealthy.  So there would really be no motive to keep anyone silent that could possibly be more appealing than the temptation to expose the conspiracy.

(Also, I suspect that you are dramatically overestimating the financial rewards of a career in research.  You may read about huge NSF grants for research, but that's not going into the pockets of the researchers, I assure you.)
 
2013-09-22 06:04:56 PM

Smidge204: I'm seriously asking; if you think "keeping your job" is a motivation, which side do you suppose has more invested in this fight?


Yeah, because a person risking going from $60,000/year to zero is not nearly as much incentive as Halliburton board watching their EPS drop from $0.29 to $0.27.

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrp.
 
2013-09-22 06:05:07 PM

Smidge204: runner_one: I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem.

How does this work, exactly?

I mean, how does reporting that the global climate is changing help ensure their jobs?

And do you have the slightest idea what those research jobs pay, and how difficult they are? Are you sure that if these people were willing to lie - and put their reputations and careers on the line - for the sake of a paycheck, that that wouldn't choose a more lucrative subject to lie about?

Do you suppose there are any well established industries that might ALSO be concerned about their jobs if global climate change is actually true, and they THEY might try to discredit anyone saying that human activity is harming the climate in an attempt to protect their billions of dollars in annual profit?

I'm seriously asking; if you think "keeping your job" is a motivation, which side do you suppose has more invested in this fight?
=Smidge=


Wow you really don't understand the grant process do you?
 
2013-09-22 06:08:37 PM

runner_one: FloydA: I really have to ask the climate change deniers, if all of the climatologists are actually engaged in some evil conspiracy, what do you think their end game is?   Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that you're correct; climate is perfectly stable, there's no cause for concern, and all of the cliamtologists are simply running some sort of scam.  Let's assume you're right, it's all a con.  They've obviously put a lot of work into it, so what is their goal?What do you think they are getting out of it?

Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil?  Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?

I just don't understand what the deniers think is actually happening.  Help me out here.  Why is the evil international climate conspiracy doing it?  To what end?

I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem. If there is no climate problem then these people have no job future. The current fixation on global warming has resulted in millions if not billions of dollars of additional funding for their research. If it turns out they were wrong then they are out of work. So, to no little surprise, they continue to keep the myth alive at any cost to protect their jobs.

Bottom Line: Job Security...


That must be a lot of scientists that are lying. Like 98% of them. They also must be faking all of the data, observations, climate models, and all of the thousands of peer reviewed studies. Plus, they must be lying about how everyone on the planet can actually see the weather becoming strange lately.
 
2013-09-22 06:11:14 PM

runner_one: I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem. If there is no climate problem then these people have no job future. The current fixation on global warming has resulted in millions if not billions of dollars of additional funding for their research. If it turns out they were wrong then they are out of work. So, to no little surprise, they continue to keep the myth alive at any cost to protect their jobs.

Bottom Line: Job Security...


Ding, ding, ding!
We have a winner.
They've been on this career track for 20 or 30 years and can't even chance track now. To do that would be to discredit themselves and their lifetime of cherry-picked claims.
 
2013-09-22 06:12:43 PM

Zeppelininthesky: That must be a lot of scientists that are lying. Like 98% of them. They also must be faking all of the data, observations, climate models, and all of the thousands of peer reviewed studies. Plus, they must be lying about how everyone on the planet can actually see the weather becoming strange lately.


Uhm, did you not notice the content of the thread? The data show that there isn't any warming. Durrrp. That's the whole point. That's why the IPCC is going into damage control mode. If they were faking the data, they would, you know, show some warming. Just saying.

Plus, confirmation bias for the fail.
 
2013-09-22 06:18:22 PM
Hey now, just because 100% of the models over-estimated, and 0% underestimated, that's no sign of bias, amirite?

c3headlines.typepad.com
 
2013-09-22 06:19:46 PM
64 kilotons of TNT or 267 Tera Joules of additional heat every second goes into the oceans. The energy going into the atmosphere is almost a rounding error.
 
2013-09-22 06:20:09 PM

runner_one: FloydA: I really have to ask the climate change deniers, if all of the climatologists are actually engaged in some evil conspiracy, what do you think their end game is?   Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that you're correct; climate is perfectly stable, there's no cause for concern, and all of the cliamtologists are simply running some sort of scam.  Let's assume you're right, it's all a con.  They've obviously put a lot of work into it, so what is their goal?What do you think they are getting out of it?

Do you envision the members of the IPCC sitting around a table, twirling their mustaches and shouting "mwa-ha-ha-ha" like villains in a Saturday morning cartoon, being evil just to be evil?  Or do you suppose they have some sort of motive for whatever dastardly deeds you think they are up to?

I just don't understand what the deniers think is actually happening.  Help me out here.  Why is the evil international climate conspiracy doing it?  To what end?

I would submit that there is no actual conspiracy... What I believe is happening is that the livelihoods of many of these people have become dependent on their work on the global climate change problem. If there is no climate problem then these people have no job future. The current fixation on global warming has resulted in millions if not billions of dollars of additional funding for their research. If it turns out they were wrong then they are out of work. So, to no little surprise, they continue to keep the myth alive at any cost to protect their jobs.

Bottom Line: Job Security...


Right.  Because all of the real science has been done.  Without climate change, all those scientists would have to go be bartenders or waiters or something because we are rapidly running out of real questions to ask and science for scientists to do.  Well's just running dry.

And, y'know, if I had to pick two qualities describing scientists, I'd definitely pick 'lazy' and 'incurious' . . . exactly the sort of people who just want an easy 9-5 job where they can go through the motions day after day, shutting off their brains and pretending to care.  No wonder they just keep phoning it in, reaching the same conclusions in study after study while living off the largesse of government agencies--agencies which at this very moment are swimming in record levels of funding due to climate change hysteria, and which rubber stamp nearly every grant submitted.

/end sarcasm
 
2013-09-22 06:24:08 PM

b2theory: 64 kilotons of TNT or 267 Tera Joules of additional heat every second goes into the oceans. The energy going into the atmosphere is almost a rounding error.


Well, then, the only thing that remains is to cherrypick a depth, so we'll know where to move the goalposts.
 
2013-09-22 06:24:29 PM

SevenizGud: Zeppelininthesky: That must be a lot of scientists that are lying. Like 98% of them. They also must be faking all of the data, observations, climate models, and all of the thousands of peer reviewed studies. Plus, they must be lying about how everyone on the planet can actually see the weather becoming strange lately.

Uhm, did you not notice the content of the thread? The data show that there isn't any warming. Durrrp. That's the whole point. That's why the IPCC is going into damage control mode. If they were faking the data, they would, you know, show some warming. Just saying.

Plus, confirmation bias for the fail.


Your telling me that the warmest decade on record is not evidence for warming because it was particularly warm in 1998?

/not familiar with regression to the mean are you?
 
2013-09-22 06:27:50 PM

Chthonic Echoes: Right. Because all of the real science has been done. Without climate change, all those scientists would have to go be bartenders or waiters or something because we are rapidly running out of real questions to ask and science for scientists to do.


Pretty hard to get even a bartending job when your C.V. shows that for the last 15 years you were the embodiment of Chicken Little.

Who wants to hire some stooge so oblivious that he didn't even realize he was the drum major for Group-Think, Inc.?
 
2013-09-22 06:27:50 PM

SevenizGud: Uhm, did you not notice the content of the thread? The data show that there isn't any warming. Durrrp.


www.skepticalscience.com
 
2013-09-22 06:29:56 PM
Well at least the science is settled.
 
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