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2013-09-22 11:35:45 AM
Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?
 
2013-09-22 11:40:07 AM
DRINK!
 
2013-09-22 11:47:08 AM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.
 
2013-09-22 11:49:23 AM
Maybe the lawyers can't find him but I'd lay money on TMZ or The Enquirer having a bead on him before the end of the day.
 
2013-09-22 11:50:34 AM
He should just stand his ground.
 
2013-09-22 11:50:49 AM

BizarreMan: Maybe the lawyers can't find him but I'd lay money on TMZ or The Enquirer having a bead on him before the end of the day.


All they gotta do is check the nearby gun shops. He'll be in one of them
 
2013-09-22 11:55:02 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: DRINK!


Well at least it's almost noon.
 
2013-09-22 12:07:36 PM
Someone needs to tell him what the phase "in abstentia" means.
 
2013-09-22 12:16:24 PM
Can't he just shoot her?
 
2013-09-22 12:27:34 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: DRINK!



I bet Alcoholics Anonymous just LOVES this guy.
 
2013-09-22 01:00:32 PM
At least he's probably now going to shoot anyone.

Aw, who am I kidding?
 
2013-09-22 01:01:20 PM
At least she doesn't have to fark him anymore, and that's half of the divorce right there. The rest is just paperwork unless you're rich.
 
2013-09-22 01:05:20 PM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


I've got bets in both

/just to be safe
//win-win, no matter who loses
 
2013-09-22 01:06:55 PM
Hmmmmmm, if only there was a way to murder someone in cold blood and get away with it...
 
2013-09-22 01:07:17 PM

HighOnCraic: He should just stand his ground.


I'm going to take a shot in the dark, but I believe that strategy won't work this time.
 
2013-09-22 01:07:47 PM
What a stand-up guy. There's no way he'd ever lie about the events of certain situatinos to keep himself out of jail.
 
2013-09-22 01:09:07 PM
Yeah, I'm sure this story is 100% accurate. Besides, you don't have to serve somebody with papers before you can divorce them, there are avenues you can take if unable to make contact with them.
 
2013-09-22 01:09:13 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.


Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.
 
2013-09-22 01:09:26 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: DRINK!


i think I'm still drunk from the earlier Zimmy posts

/gonna need a liver transplant
 
2013-09-22 01:09:38 PM
10 to 1, he shoots the wife before it's all said and done.
 
2013-09-22 01:12:16 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.


Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....
 
2013-09-22 01:12:33 PM

freak7: Yeah, I'm sure this story is 100% accurate. Besides, you don't have to serve somebody with papers before you can divorce them, there are avenues you can take if unable to make contact with them.

You are correct, sir. It is waaaaaay more expensive though. I'm guessing these two fat losers don't have enough to cover it.
 
2013-09-22 01:12:47 PM
Just think, if he had been convicted like he should have been, he wouldn't have all these problems.
 
2013-09-22 01:14:07 PM

jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....


Just like what happened to OJ.
 
2013-09-22 01:14:18 PM

Bslim: You are correct, sir. It is waaaaaay more expensive though.


I know in the old days, all you had to do was post an ad in the local paper of their last known address for a week or so. Not sure what the rules are these days.
 
2013-09-22 01:14:49 PM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


Miley is just making bad choices on stage. Zimmerman can be counted to fark up every aspect of his personal life.

/ Plus Miley never murdered anybody
 
2013-09-22 01:14:50 PM

jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....


Neither, since you are both operating on speculation.
 
2013-09-22 01:16:16 PM

Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.


Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.
 
2013-09-22 01:16:52 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was

...

Well that and all the evidence that he was being assaulted.
 
2013-09-22 01:16:58 PM

Shostie: Someone needs to tell him what the phase "in abstentia" means.


You could take notes too.
 
2013-09-22 01:17:13 PM
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2013-09-22 01:18:13 PM
The people have their witch and they won't stop until the witch is dead.
 
2013-09-22 01:18:34 PM

BizarreMan: Maybe the lawyers can't find him but I'd lay money on TMZ or The Enquirer having a bead on him before the end of the day.


Suicide within 3 months.

/yes, self-inflicted
 
2013-09-22 01:18:58 PM
Eat a bullet already you stupid fark.
 
2013-09-22 01:19:05 PM
The guns rights activists picked a great poster boy with this guy. I'm sure he'll do them proud.
 
2013-09-22 01:19:14 PM
See kids what happens when you go around paling wanna-be cop with a gun?
 
2013-09-22 01:19:39 PM
He just wants to make a big entrance for once in his life.
 
2013-09-22 01:19:56 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.


I have the same empathy for him. If only we could go back to those halcyon days of yor when a guy could shoot a kid of the proper colour and get a pat on the back and an attaboy instead of getting all legal eagal on him.

Law enforcement is the perfect career move for a guy with such a sturdy mental state.

One might even venture to say it might be the reason he was a wanna be cop and not employer be a real police force. And seeing some of the winners that do make the cut it really says something about him
 
2013-09-22 01:22:04 PM
1. I don't care to hear about farking George Zimmerman every time he takes a farking shiat. It's almost like 24 hour news networks use him to fill vacant time slots. He was acquitted; get over it.

2. Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

3. I should really get stock in scotch and popcorn stocks for these threads.
 
2013-09-22 01:22:14 PM
Am I the only one who saw this bloated gash for being the opportunistic, gold digging fish market coming a LONG time ago?

She'll be playing the 'ahma victim' schtick on talk shows soon enough - I doubt she'll go full Goslin as there's not enough dim lighting and lipo to make the jump... and the dumb bastage will be poor and in custody in less than I year...
 
2013-09-22 01:23:07 PM
News Alert To Farkers: People going through divorce react in many different ways, sometimes not optimally.

It's not news.
It's has nothing to do with the case.

Stop acting like vultures.

Divorce is farked up for many people.  I am glad to know your divorce resulted in two fine, rational, pleasant, non angry, non traumatized, productive, forever friends.

Both of them have my best wishes.
 
2013-09-22 01:23:46 PM

bump: Am I the only one who saw this bloated gash for being the opportunistic, gold digging fish market coming a LONG time ago?


Nope. Give it a little time and she'll be shopping for a book deal.
 
2013-09-22 01:24:07 PM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


I don't see how Miley is self destructing. Other than an admittedly tasteless concert and music video she's done nothing overtly bad. I mean, she doesn't seem to be stumbling through a revolving door between rehab and coke-fueled party binges.
 
2013-09-22 01:24:18 PM
Want to bring him out of hiding? Have a black teen walk down the street wearing a hoodie and eating Skittles. To Zimmerman that's like catnip.
 
2013-09-22 01:24:56 PM
Does he really think that hiding will somehow make the divorce go away? After however long is required, his wife will petition the state for the divorce on grounds of abandonment. She'll end up with all of their stuff. Real wise and mature there, George.
 
2013-09-22 01:25:12 PM

eyeq360: HighOnCraic: He should just stand his ground.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark, but I believe that strategy won't work this time.


What you did there, I see it.
 
2013-09-22 01:25:54 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Zimmerman. Definitely. His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.


This. up until recently, I defended the guy since trayvon - in complete fairness - had pinned the fella. And, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the iPad since divorces are messy. But he's starting to look like a dr.jeckll and mr.hyde situation...
 
2013-09-22 01:26:00 PM
So this is the Florida version of tag?
 
2013-09-22 01:26:25 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.



Really? That's what you're going with? OJ was found not guilty, just like Zimmerman.
 
2013-09-22 01:26:35 PM

freak7: I know in the old days, all you had to do was post an ad in the local paper of their last known address for a week or so. Not sure what the rules are these days.


According to some Internet Florida lawyer I googled, if you can't serve the defendant in person, you have to file an affidavit with the court, convince the judge that you really tried, and then publish a notice once per week for four weeks.

But you cannot receive child support or alimony by that process.

Do they have kids?
 
2013-09-22 01:27:10 PM
You know, I respected him back when he was just a child murderer. But now it's getting hard to defend him.
 
2013-09-22 01:27:24 PM

freak7: Bslim: You are correct, sir. It is waaaaaay more expensive though.

I know in the old days, all you had to do was post an ad in the local paper of their last known address for a week or so. Not sure what the rules are these days.


Varies state by state.  Some states require you to serve papers / make court appearances for some phases of the proceedings.

iheartscotch: 2. Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.


I'm more wondering:
At what point does she start giving interviews and start laying out "the truth."  Doesn't even matter if it's the real truth or her wigging out and making shiat up.    "He let the toilet seat up all the time, he claimed to molested his cousin once, I caught him downloading kiddie porn, he used the N* word all the time, after the shooting he told me he wanted to have sex because he was still hard from the thrill of shooting a coon."
 
2013-09-22 01:27:51 PM

jaytkay: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Miley is just making bad choices on stage. Zimmerman can be counted to fark up every aspect of his personal life.

/ Plus Miley never murdered anybody




Neither did George.
 
2013-09-22 01:27:59 PM

jaytkay: Do they have kids?


Nope, George caught them in the Halloween candy.
 
2013-09-22 01:28:01 PM
You'd think, after going through a huge murder trial, he might be aware of service rules. She'll likely be able to file something with court showing that she's made several attempts to serve, but can't find him. The court would then allow for service to his last known address or publication, then they'll just move forward without him.

But then again, he's already proven himself to be not so bright, what with his inability to follow basic directions and stalk strangers.
 
2013-09-22 01:28:25 PM

Infernalist: 10 to 1, he shoots the wife before it's all said and done.


That is entirely possible.

When I was trying to get a divorce, my ex hid from the process servers. For three days, in a little tiny town, he evaded them. I heard that he climbed out of a window at work to get away one day. This from a guy who told everyone that he'd come home from work and found me screwing someone else in our bed, so he was divorcing me.

My lawyer said she'd never seen anything like it, it was the most expensive divorce service she'd ever heard of. Four years later, I was given my divorce, but without a final settlement. The judge was not happy, but he granted it anyway. My lawyer had a nervous breakdown and refused to take my calls anymore.

/DRINK
 
2013-09-22 01:28:56 PM
Has he tried avoiding her detection by wearing a hoodie?
 
2013-09-22 01:29:16 PM

RoyBatty: News Alert To Farkers: People going through divorce react in many different ways, sometimes not optimally.

It's not news.
It's has nothing to do with the case.

Stop acting like vultures.

Divorce is farked up for many people.  I am glad to know your divorce resulted in two fine, rational, pleasant, non angry, non traumatized, productive, forever friends.

Both of them have my best wishes.


Yeah, you VULTURES!!!

You are being so judgmental of this wife-beating, aggravated-assaulting child-murdering sociopath!
Can't you see he's going through a hard time??
If anything, George Zimmerman is the victim here!!
 
2013-09-22 01:29:41 PM
Can we please stop talking about this man.  We really need to move on.  I think we may have eclipsed the Jon and Kate plus 8 derp.
 
2013-09-22 01:30:23 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Some states require you to serve papers


Every state has to have some sort of exemption when the other party can't be found.
 
2013-09-22 01:33:15 PM

iheartscotch: Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.


Considering that Zimmerman had the police called on him for showing up at his in-laws house and threatening to shoot them and his estranged wife, I'd say that she needs to divorce him before he George Zimmermans her.
 
2013-09-22 01:34:01 PM
a true american hero
 
2013-09-22 01:34:33 PM

Satanic_Hamster: freak7: Bslim: You are correct, sir. It is waaaaaay more expensive though.

I know in the old days, all you had to do was post an ad in the local paper of their last known address for a week or so. Not sure what the rules are these days.

Varies state by state.  Some states require you to serve papers / make court appearances for some phases of the proceedings.

iheartscotch: 2. Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

I'm more wondering:
At what point does she start giving interviews and start laying out "the truth."  Doesn't even matter if it's the real truth or her wigging out and making shiat up.    "He let the toilet seat up all the time, he claimed to molested his cousin once, I caught him downloading kiddie porn, he used the N* word all the time, after the shooting he told me he wanted to have sex because he was still hard from the thrill of shooting a coon."


Indeed.

Anything she says at this point is suspect. This is going to be the MOTHER of all divorces. I'm expecting some Maury-esk drama.

/ even that hose beast, Nancy Grace, was on team zim after the incident with the iPad.
 
2013-09-22 01:34:38 PM
jaytkay:

/ Plus Miley never murdered anybody

I wonder if Zimmerman could make a living out of just suing people for slander.
 
2013-09-22 01:36:31 PM

cryinoutloud: Infernalist: 10 to 1, he shoots the wife before it's all said and done.

That is entirely possible.

When I was trying to get a divorce, my ex hid from the process servers. For three days, in a little tiny town, he evaded them. I heard that he climbed out of a window at work to get away one day. This from a guy who told everyone that he'd come home from work and found me screwing someone else in our bed, so he was divorcing me.

My lawyer said she'd never seen anything like it, it was the most expensive divorce service she'd ever heard of. Four years later, I was given my divorce, but without a final settlement. The judge was not happy, but he granted it anyway. My lawyer had a nervous breakdown and refused to take my calls anymore.

/DRINK


Now THAT takes dedication!

/ why do divorces cost so much money? Because, they're worth it!
 
2013-09-22 01:36:52 PM

freak7: Every state has to have some sort of exemption when the other party can't be found.


Yeah, but usually there's a number of attempts / time period required, to keep people from just claiming they can't serve the papers.

Had a buddy had this happen.  His (ex)wife kept trying to the papers served when she knew he was out of town on business trips.
 
2013-09-22 01:37:22 PM
Just shoot her......Derek Medina is taking the Zimmerman defense and doing just fine
 
2013-09-22 01:37:37 PM
It seems in this thread that 99.5 % of you don't know what the word murder means. It refers to an unlawful killing. The jury said it was lawful. So it's not a murder nor him a murderer. People need to move the heck on. How the fark is bs in a divioce case a news story. People pull this stuff all the time.
 
2013-09-22 01:39:11 PM

ChewbaccaJones: Has he tried avoiding her detection by wearing a hoodie?


Came to post this. Grumble...
 
2013-09-22 01:40:23 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.


You're exactly right.  Zimmerman actually murdered one person.
 
2013-09-22 01:41:28 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.


I agree. It just like he was shot for going to the store to bu skittles.
 
2013-09-22 01:43:36 PM
He can get divorced, there are plenty of people in this thread alone lining up to suck his cock.
 
2013-09-22 01:43:56 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.


Except all signs show that he was an asshole prior to the shooting as well.
 
2013-09-22 01:44:53 PM

shower_in_my_socks: iheartscotch: Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

Considering that Zimmerman had the police called on him for showing up at his in-laws house and threatening to shoot them and his estranged wife, I'd say that she needs to divorce him before he George Zimmermans her.


Um, seriously?

At first, I figured that she didn't press any charges; because, that's what battered women do. Not press charges; that is. But, the moment she called the cops; that decision wasn't hers anymore.

If the cops had found even a little evidence to corroborate the wife's story; they'd have hauled zim down to lockup. They not only didn't find any evidence supporting the wife's claim; but, they didn't find the gun that was supposedly involved.

That leads me to two possible conclusions. Either the police officers involved are totally incompetent; or zim is being falsely accused.
 
2013-09-22 01:45:06 PM

Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right.  Zimmerman actually murdered one person.


.

No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.
 
2013-09-22 01:48:53 PM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


Him. I think Miley is just doing wacky shiat for the publicity. She hasn't gone full Lohan yet.
 
2013-09-22 01:50:02 PM

shrankage: I think we may have eclipsed the Jon and Kate plus 8 derp.


George & Jon + 9(mm)? The wacky adventures of two hobbyists as they cope with their exes, patrol the neighborhood and try to find ammo at reasonable prices! Guest appearances by Bruce Jenner and Ted Nugent!
 
2013-09-22 01:50:08 PM
I'm betting on the mass shooting or suicide by cop.
On that day, even though I don't drink and haven't had a drop since 1986, I will have a beer.
And laugh.
/hope his wife gets all the money he fraudulently scammed raised
 
2013-09-22 01:50:17 PM

freak7: Mugato: He can get divorced, there are plenty of people in this thread alone lining up to suck his cock.

Better than siding with a violent criminal.


So there are points where you'd suck a dick, huh?

lol
 
2013-09-22 01:52:03 PM

freak7: Bslim: You are correct, sir. It is waaaaaay more expensive though.

I know in the old days, all you had to do was post an ad in the local paper of their last known address for a week or so. Not sure what the rules are these days.


The old days? What are you referring to, the wild west?
 
2013-09-22 01:53:53 PM
I'm getting a kick out of the inability of the haters to spell worth a damn, today.
 
2013-09-22 01:54:13 PM

rewind2846: I'm betting on the mass shooting or suicide by cop.
On that day, even though I don't drink and haven't had a drop since 1986, I will have a beer.
And laugh.
/hope his wife gets all the money he fraudulently scammed raised


That's sort of odd phrasing for a comment. I am glad you included that last sentence to help establish context.
 
2013-09-22 01:54:50 PM

rewind2846: I'm betting on the mass shooting or suicide by cop.
On that day, even though I don't drink and haven't had a drop since 1986, I will have a beer.
And laugh.
/hope his wife gets all the money he fraudulently scammed raised


Stay classy.
 
2013-09-22 01:54:51 PM

shower_in_my_socks: Considering that Zimmerman had the police called on him for showing up at his in-laws house and threatening to shoot them and his estranged wife, I'd say that she needs to divorce him before he George Zimmermans her.


Zimmerman haters always create the narrative they wish was real
 
2013-09-22 01:55:24 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: shrankage: I think we may have eclipsed the Jon and Kate plus 8 derp.

George & Jon + 9(mm)? The wacky adventures of two hobbyists as they cope with their exes, patrol the neighborhood and try to find ammo at reasonable prices! Guest appearances by Bruce Jenner and Ted Nugent!



Oh god please no.  I think i read something recently where Jon was living in a remote cabin in the woods and working as a waiter at some place in town.  It sounded like a ploy for a new tv show, maybe it is in the works!
 
2013-09-22 01:55:29 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: People need to move the heck on.


Zimmerman's defense was paid for by political advocacy groups. You don't get to back someone for political ends (which he accepted) and then say "move on" once he's done serving your purposes. (I mean the collective you, not you specifically.) A lot of causes got into bed with this guy, and now they have to see how it all plays out. That was always my argument from the beginning - why in the hell are gun groups backing THIS guy. It's such a murky case, racially charged, with a sympathetic shooting victim, and the shooter is so obviously an unbalanced person. It was very shortsighted. The odds of him killing again, or killing himself, or getting involved in some other bad shiat, are very high. As a gun owner, this is not at all the person I want representing me in the eyes of the general public.
 
2013-09-22 01:55:37 PM

iheartscotch: shower_in_my_socks: iheartscotch: Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

Considering that Zimmerman had the police called on him for showing up at his in-laws house and threatening to shoot them and his estranged wife, I'd say that she needs to divorce him before he George Zimmermans her.

Um, seriously?

At first, I figured that she didn't press any charges; because, that's what battered women do. Not press charges; that is. But, the moment she called the cops; that decision wasn't hers anymore.

If the cops had found even a little evidence to corroborate the wife's story; they'd have hauled zim down to lockup. They not only didn't find any evidence supporting the wife's claim; but, they didn't find the gun that was supposedly involved.

That leads me to two possible conclusions. Either the police officers involved are totally incompetent; or zim is being falsely accused.


It's not like the cops in Florida are known for being insanely competent.
 
2013-09-22 01:55:51 PM

freak7: Shelly showed up at a home she was no longer living in and started removing items. George arrived and started shooting


You'd think he'd know better
 
2013-09-22 01:57:07 PM
The best way for Zimmerman to take himself out, would be to eschew the guns, and walk into a rough part of Chicago.
 
2013-09-22 01:57:11 PM
I like to think that zim sits alone in the dark every night, obsessively listening to the creaks in his home, wondering if someone's inside and looking to shoot him, and thinks to himself every 30 seconds or so..."I shoulda stayed in the farking truck."
 
2013-09-22 01:57:13 PM
Holy shiat! What if Trayvon Martin was actually trying to serve George Zimmerman with Divorce Papers!

files.abovetopsecret.com
 
2013-09-22 01:58:51 PM
The J4M crowd on Fark seems to know nothing about the shooting they are wanting to lynch him for. A sane rational person who followed the case knows with out a shadow of doubt that the verdict was correct. No shred of evidence says that it was a justified killing. Race baiters and suffers of whit guilt turned it into a circus and ruined this mans life. I guarantee that if it was two white men involed this wouldn't even gone to trail. People need to accept the facts and move on.
 
2013-09-22 01:59:53 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.


I don't know -- Miley Cyrus is described as "self-destructing" because she was, at one point, a superstar; Zimmerman was only ever a guy with a shiatty job, a gun, and a hero complex.
 
2013-09-22 01:59:58 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The J4M crowd on Fark seems to know nothing about the shooting they are wanting to lynch him for. A sane rational person who followed the case knows with out a shadow of doubt that the verdict was correct. No shred of evidence says that it was a justified killing. Race baiters and suffers of whit guilt turned it into a circus and ruined this mans life. I guarantee that if it was two white men involed this wouldn't even gone to trail. People need to accept the facts and move on.


Freudian slip there, son?
 
2013-09-22 02:01:21 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The J4M crowd on Fark seems to know nothing about the shooting they are wanting to lynch him for. A sane rational person who followed the case knows with out a shadow of doubt that the verdict was correct. No shred of evidence says that it wasn't a justified killing. Race baiters and suffers of whit guilt turned it into a circus and ruined this mans life. I guarantee that if it was two white men involed this wouldn't even gone to trail. People need to accept the facts and move on.

 
2013-09-22 02:02:23 PM

Arkanaut: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

I don't know -- Miley Cyrus is described as "self-destructing" because she was, at one point, a superstar; Zimmerman was only ever a guy with a shiatty job, a gun, and a hero complex.


She's more famous now.
 
2013-09-22 02:02:33 PM
It would appear the article simply makes up the idea that he's hiding.

I'm sure he's received plenty of threats. It would be silly of him to be easy to find.
 
2013-09-22 02:02:35 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The J4M crowd on Fark seems to know nothing about the shooting they are wanting to lynch him for. A sane rational person who followed the case knows with out a shadow of doubt that the verdict was correct. No shred of evidence says that it was a justified killing. Race baiters and suffers of whit guilt turned it into a circus and ruined this mans life. I guarantee that if it was two white men involed this wouldn't even gone to trail. People need to accept the facts and move on.


Hmmm....
 
2013-09-22 02:03:07 PM
I think the most unbelievable part of all of this mess is that Zimmerman was (and technically still is) married.
 
2013-09-22 02:03:24 PM

iheartscotch: they didn't find the gun that was supposedly involved.


Yes they did. The police chief said they found the gun in his truck, which is where his wife on the 911 tape said he was and that he was "raging" and threatening them to come closer. He was still standing by his truck when the police arrived. The confusion is that he was not carrying the gun ON HIS PERSON during the incident. But it was right there the whole time.
 
2013-09-22 02:04:32 PM
He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.
 
2013-09-22 02:05:24 PM
fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net

Remeber folks, Zimmerman's entire defense is that he was a big pussy
 
2013-09-22 02:06:01 PM

shower_in_my_socks: Mid_mo_mad_man: People need to move the heck on.

Zimmerman's defense was paid for by political advocacy groups. You don't get to back someone for political ends (which he accepted) and then say "move on" once he's done serving your purposes. (I mean the collective you, not you specifically.) A lot of causes got into bed with this guy, and now they have to see how it all plays out. That was always my argument from the beginning - why in the hell are gun groups backing THIS guy. It's such a murky case, racially charged, with a sympathetic shooting victim, and the shooter is so obviously an unbalanced person. It was very shortsighted. The odds of him killing again, or killing himself, or getting involved in some other bad shiat, are very high. As a gun owner, this is not at all the person I want representing me in the eyes of the general public.




I was referring to the submitter. Bs during a divioce ain't news. It's a matter of course.
 
2013-09-22 02:07:15 PM

RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.


You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.

a.abcnews.com
 
2013-09-22 02:10:30 PM

cretinbob: RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.

You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


cretinbob: RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.

You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]




Zimmerman became white when they needed to make him evil. Everybody knows white guys = evil racist.
 
2013-09-22 02:12:01 PM

freak7: Tell us about the times you've been sucker punched in the nose?


Getting punched in the face is grounds for executing someone?

No one tell Mike Tyson. He might eat our children or fark us til we love him.
 
2013-09-22 02:12:04 PM
I thought getting aay from the wife to avoid divorce was exactly how marriage works?
 
2013-09-22 02:12:29 PM
Is there no end to this guy's pussitude?
 
2013-09-22 02:13:39 PM

shower_in_my_socks: iheartscotch: they didn't find the gun that was supposedly involved.

Yes they did. The police chief said they found the gun in his truck, which is where his wife on the 911 tape said he was and that he was "raging" and threatening them to come closer. He was still standing by his truck when the police arrived. The confusion is that he was not carrying the gun ON HIS PERSON during the incident. But it was right there the whole time.


I'll have to read the story again, then.

Still, I'm going with vindictive wife on this one. She's the one who got hit with the perjury charge during the trial. That's going to color any divorce proceeding. That is, unless, she can make zim look like a deranged mad man. Divorce is a very interesting thing; both parties lie, out of their asses, to screw over the other party.

/ a buddy's wife of 10 years dropped that particular bomb on him two weeks ago. He said that she said that she "didn't want the house or his money". I told him to get a lawyer, like 5 minutes ago.
 
2013-09-22 02:13:52 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right.  Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

.

No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.


Go grammar Nazi go!!!
 
2013-09-22 02:15:16 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

George tried it and it didn't work.
 
2013-09-22 02:16:03 PM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


Miley is marketing herself. That's different. The fact that so people realize it shows how good she is at it.

Summon the power of the internets and he's found in days, if not hours.
 
2013-09-22 02:16:05 PM

freak7: Trayvon was a violent thug with a long history of criminal activity and got exactly what he deserved.


Shot for defending himself against an armed weirdo who was following him for no reason?
 
2013-09-22 02:16:31 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.


Nonsense.  PTSD is something that liberals made up, it's not real.
 
2013-09-22 02:17:44 PM
She ugly
 
2013-09-22 02:17:59 PM
Welp, one thing is for certain.  If they have kids, they will be fat kids.
 
2013-09-22 02:18:03 PM

rhondajeremy: Mid_mo_mad_man: Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right.  Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

.

No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.

Go grammar Nazi go!!!




I'm not a grammar nazi. I was saying that the jury said it was lawful killing which is not a murder. Calling him a murderer is libel/slander.
 
2013-09-22 02:19:21 PM

freak7: I know in the old days, all you had to do was post an ad in the local paper of their last known address for a week or so. Not sure what the rules are these days.


The local what?  I see a serious problem with that approach today.
 
2013-09-22 02:19:53 PM

shower_in_my_socks: Zimmerman's defense was paid for by political advocacy groups. You don't get to back someone for political ends (which he accepted) and then say "move on" once he's done serving your purposes. (I mean the collective you, not you specifically.) A lot of causes got into bed with this guy, and now they have to see how it all plays out. That was always my argument from the beginning - why in the hell are gun groups backing THIS guy. It's such a murky case, racially charged, with a sympathetic shooting victim, and the shooter is so obviously an unbalanced person. It was very shortsighted. The odds of him killing again, or killing himself, or getting involved in some other bad shiat, are very high. As a gun owner, this is not at all the person I want representing me in the eyes of the general public.


They've already covered that aspect.  If he does anything now, ANYTHING, it's all part of the liberal conspiracy to smear him and/or the liberal msm media hounded him to do it.  Doesn't matter if he posts online he's going out to rape children, then goes out and rapes children right on Fox News, it's the liberals fault.
 
2013-09-22 02:21:10 PM

cretinbob: RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.
You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.
[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


She looks like a Grade-A coont. It should have been a match made in heaven. Damn you, Trayvon Martin, for destroying such a beautiful marriage!
 
2013-09-22 02:21:24 PM

freak7: Mercutio74: Shot for defending himself against an armed weirdo who was following him for no reason?

No, shot for attacking somebody that was doing nothing more than reporting a suspicious person to the police.


How does one know if they're suspicious?
 
2013-09-22 02:21:47 PM

freak7: When that person then hops on you, bangs your head off the cement and then continues taking swings? You're goddamn right it is. Trayvon was a violent thug with a long history of criminal activity and got exactly what he deserved.


He was just a kid.

I bet you're a Christian, aren't you?
 
2013-09-22 02:22:40 PM
So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?
 
2013-09-22 02:22:41 PM

Mercutio74: freak7: Trayvon was a violent thug with a long history of criminal activity and got exactly what he deserved.

Shot for defending himself against an armed weirdo who was following him for no reason?




One punch is defending ones self. Beating a head into concrete is not nor is mounting a guy and beating him. Neither is circling back to attack an creepy cracker.
 
2013-09-22 02:23:22 PM

Mercutio74: How does one know if they're suspicious?


Brown skin, obviously.
 
2013-09-22 02:23:48 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: rhondajeremy: Mid_mo_mad_man: Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right.  Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

.

No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.

Go grammar Nazi go!!!



I'm not a grammar nazi. I was saying that the jury said it was lawful killing which is not a murder. Calling him a murderer is libel/slander.


No, the jury did not find it to be a lawful killing, all they decided was that there was not enough evidence to overcome the burden of proof.

It is almost a foregone conclusion that he will be found civilly liable if the Martin family decides to pursue it further.
 
2013-09-22 02:23:58 PM
I bet he is in Niarobi
 
2013-09-22 02:24:29 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: One punch is defending ones self. Beating a head into concrete is not nor is mounting a guy and beating him. Neither is circling back to attack an creepy cracker.


Hmmm...  is that the famous "You only get one, better make it good..." exception to the Florida Stand Your Ground Law?  I was unaware that was a thing.
 
2013-09-22 02:25:44 PM

iheartscotch: Still, I'm going with vindictive wife on this one. She's the one who got hit with the perjury charge during the trial. That's going to color any divorce proceeding. That is, unless, she can make zim look like a deranged mad man. Divorce is a very interesting thing; both parties lie, out of their asses, to screw over the other party.


Keep in mind, she perjured herfself lying about how much money he was hiding.
 
2013-09-22 02:25:52 PM

freak7: By observing their actions. Let me guess, you're about to claim that Trayvon was doing nothing to make himself suspicious and that George only called to report him because he saw a black kid in his all white paradise, right?


No, I mean if YOU'RE the guy who's being defined as suspicious, how do you know that YOU'RE suspicious?  I think your inability to look at the situation from the point of view of anyone but Zimmerman is pretty telling.
 
2013-09-22 02:26:21 PM
I'm happy George Zimmerman will never again have peace.

I sleep great at night know that piece of shiate will never rest or have a life again.

Fark him!
 
2013-09-22 02:26:33 PM
A woman is most likely to be murdered by either a current or former husband.

Just sayin'
 
2013-09-22 02:28:01 PM

freak7: Mercutio74: Shot for defending himself against an armed weirdo who was following him for no reason?

No, shot for attacking somebody that was doing nothing more than reporting a suspicious person to the police.


Yes, the armed man with a long history of violent crime stalking a child he didn't know after dark was doing nothing wrong.
 
2013-09-22 02:28:29 PM

jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....


He gets pulled over, he has a gun concealed in the glove box.  He has a fight with his wife and acts like a farking crazy person.  That in itself can send someone 'round the twist, and more likely so if it's not true.  I didn't say he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole - I said his problems since that conviction have made him start to look like one.
 
2013-09-22 02:28:54 PM

iheartscotch: I'll have to read the story again, then.


Police statements about it were confusing. They said he didn't have a gun on his person, but the chief said there was a gun in his truck, but at the same time the police were not allowed to search his truck. It's possible that when asked, Zimmerman just told them "yeah, I have a gun in my glovebox" or whatever. I would be shocked if Zimmerman ever leaves his house again without a gun, either on him or at least in his vehicle. I sure as hell wouldn't go out without a gun if I was him now.
 
2013-09-22 02:29:24 PM

Mrbogey: Benevolent Misanthrope: His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was...

Well that and all the evidence that he was being assaulted.


Which was apparently accepted by the jury, but the Court of Pubic Opinion is still out.
 
2013-09-22 02:29:28 PM

freak7: No, shot for attacking somebody that was doing nothing more than reporting a suspicious person to the police.


He did that from his vehicle. Only he knows what he did after that.

/you got a problem?
 
2013-09-22 02:29:33 PM

jaytkay: According to some Internet Florida lawyer I googled, if you can't serve the defendant in person, you have to file an affidavit with the court, convince the judge that you really tried, and then publish a notice once per week for four weeks.

But you cannot receive child support or alimony by that process.


Whoa, a guy can get out child support that way?
 
2013-09-22 02:30:51 PM

freak7: By observing their actions. Let me guess, you're about to claim that Trayvon was doing nothing to make himself suspicious and that George only called to report him because he saw a black kid in his all white paradise, right?


I'm sure you have some sort of credible evidence that Martin was behaving in a suspicious manner, right?
 
2013-09-22 02:31:08 PM

freak7: Mercutio74: No, I mean if YOU'RE the guy who's being defined as suspicious, how do you know that YOU'RE suspicious?

Well we could start with taking off running around the corner when you notice that somebody is observing you.


Can you think of any other situations where someone might take off when they're realized they're being followed by a creepy, gormless looking dude?  Any at all?  I'll wait.

/Again, maybe thinking about the situation in a way where there's more than one "dramatic lead" in the story would be a good idea.
 
2013-09-22 02:31:39 PM

grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?




No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter
 
2013-09-22 02:34:13 PM

iheartscotch: shower_in_my_socks: iheartscotch: they didn't find the gun that was supposedly involved.

Yes they did. The police chief said they found the gun in his truck, which is where his wife on the 911 tape said he was and that he was "raging" and threatening them to come closer. He was still standing by his truck when the police arrived. The confusion is that he was not carrying the gun ON HIS PERSON during the incident. But it was right there the whole time.

I'll have to read the story again, then.

Still, I'm going with vindictive wife on this one. She's the one who got hit with the perjury charge during the trial. That's going to color any divorce proceeding. That is, unless, she can make zim look like a deranged mad man. Divorce is a very interesting thing; both parties lie, out of their asses, to screw over the other party.


She doesn't have to lie here though - "Your honor, my husband was involved in a highly publicized and controversial murder trial where we were threatened and had to go into hiding. Even though I was in fear for my life, he chose to be an AW by touring a gun factory after the verdict. His actions are reckless and negligent."
 
2013-09-22 02:35:35 PM

freak7: Well except that Trayvon didn't take of running right away, he stood there looking at Zim for a bit before doing so. All this time he's on the phone, shooting the breeze with his female friend. Yeah, he was terrified, right?


What's your source for Martin's demeanor?

/I'm going to guess... Zimmerman's account of the events, right?  :)
//Do you see a theme to your posts yet?  I do.
 
2013-09-22 02:35:47 PM
Anyone who doesn't fully realize that Zimmerman was anything but grossly negligent and criminally irresponsible is a delusional asshat.

...anyone who thinks Trayvon was an innocent, precious little snowflake is equally stupid and delusional.

Both made multiple mistakes.
Why did a grown man pursue a teen in the dark?
Why did he not listen to the advice of the dispatcher?

If Trayvon felt threatened by a "creepy ass cracker" why didn't he call 911?
Why did this "sweet and innocent" boy think that assaulting an adult in the dark would solve anything?

Both sides of this are idiots.
Race baiting.
Political agenda.
Media sensationalizing.
Knee jerk reaction.....etc.....etc.....

An asshole encountered a moron and a tragic death occurred. Period.

The ONLY debate is which one was the moron and which one was the asshole.
 
2013-09-22 02:36:35 PM

freak7: Sure I do, Zimmerman calling to report him. Are you suggesting that George reported him as part of a plan to legally murder a black guy?


So no credible evidence, then?
 
2013-09-22 02:38:14 PM

freak7: udhq: Yes, the armed man with a long history of violent crime stalking a child he didn't know after dark was doing nothing wrong.

George had no criminal record, care to check your facts before responding?


Only because he plead out after he punched that cop.

And that's not even taking into account the ex that he beat so badly she had to get a restraining order against him.

Or the cousin that he raped.
 
2013-09-22 02:39:08 PM

s2s2s2: Arkanaut: I don't know -- Miley Cyrus is described as "self-destructing" because she was, at one point, a superstar; Zimmerman was only ever a guy with a shiatty job, a gun, and a hero complex.

She's more famous now.


Yeah, well, so is he.
 
2013-09-22 02:39:19 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter


That really didn't address my question.

What I'm saying is there are people who say something to the effect of "Zimmerman was tried and found not guilty, so you have to accept that, but OJ is a murdering murderer who murders,even though he was tried and found not guilty."

It reminds me a lot of the "Obama is an empty suit dictator!" nonsense.
 
2013-09-22 02:39:52 PM

iheartscotch: 1. I don't care to hear about farking George Zimmerman every time he takes a farking shiat. It's almost like 24 hour news networks use him to fill vacant time slots. He was acquitted; get over it.

2. Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

3. I should really get stock in scotch and popcorn stocks for these threads.


Posting on Fark clearly isn't your talent. Might I suggest highlights.com?
 
2013-09-22 02:39:55 PM
Mr. Tough Guy needs to stand his ground.
 
2013-09-22 02:39:57 PM

udhq: Mid_mo_mad_man: rhondajeremy: Mid_mo_mad_man: Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right.  Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

.

No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.

Go grammar Nazi go!!!

I'm not a grammar nazi. I was saying that the jury said it was lawful killing which is not a murder. Calling him a murderer is libel/slander.

No, the jury did not find it to be a lawful killing, all they decided was that there was not enough evidence to overcome the burden of proof.

It is almost a foregone conclusion that he will be found civilly liable if the Martin ...




George was found not guilty by means of self defense. He's immune from civil suits.
 
2013-09-22 02:42:13 PM

flondrix: jaytkay: According to some Internet Florida lawyer I googled, if you can't serve the defendant in person, you have to file an affidavit with the court, convince the judge that you really tried, and then publish a notice once per week for four weeks.

But you cannot receive child support or alimony by that process.

Whoa, a guy can get out child support that way?


Apparently, in Florida, yes.

But you'd have to hide forever, because the terms of the divorce can be changed once you get served.
 
2013-09-22 02:44:46 PM

grumpfuff: Mid_mo_mad_man: grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter

That really didn't address my question.

What I'm saying is there are people who say something to the effect of "Zimmerman was tried and found not guilty, so you have to accept that, but OJ is a murdering murderer who murders,even though he was tried and found not guilty."

It reminds me a lot of the "Obama is an empty suit dictator!" nonsense.




I've never complained about the OJ verdict. I didnt get upset about it.
 
2013-09-22 02:47:05 PM

freak7: What's your source for any of your assumptions? We have Zimmerman's recorded call as well as his interviews with police. Either he's a master liar who planned this whole event so he could kill a black guy, or he's telling the truth.

Come on, tell us how you know anything about what Martin was doing or how he felt that night?


Or, perhaps, he considers all black teenagers wearing hoodies to be automatically suspicious?
 
2013-09-22 02:47:49 PM

DayeOfJustice: You'd think, after going through a huge murder trial, he might be aware of service rules. She'll likely be able to file something with court showing that she's made several attempts to serve, but can't find him. The court would then allow for service to his last known address or publication, then they'll just move forward without him.

But then again, he's already proven himself to be not so bright, what with his inability to follow basic directions and stalk strangers.


This. He's just going to cost himself a small fortune later on, as he will have to pay her lawyer for all the extra work. Also, the judge for their divorce will think he is an asshole and a gamesman.
 
2013-09-22 02:48:27 PM

RussianPooper: The people have their witch and they won't stop until the witch is dead.


I'm fairly certain he weighs way more than a duck.
 
2013-09-22 02:49:07 PM
With all of the OJ and GZ comparisons.  Does that mean we will have another Naked Gun movie with GZ guest starring?!  Maybe we could muppet Leslie Nielsen's corpse.
 
2013-09-22 02:49:15 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: grumpfuff: Mid_mo_mad_man: grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter

That really didn't address my question.

What I'm saying is there are people who say something to the effect of "Zimmerman was tried and found not guilty, so you have to accept that, but OJ is a murdering murderer who murders,even though he was tried and found not guilty."

It reminds me a lot of the "Obama is an empty suit dictator!" nonsense.

I've never complained about the OJ verdict. I didnt get upset about it.


Then you're not one of the people I was referring to. *shrug* Still doesn't answer my question though.
 
2013-09-22 02:50:59 PM

s2s2s2: rewind2846: I'm betting on the mass shooting or suicide by cop.
On that day, even though I don't drink and haven't had a drop since 1986, I will have a beer.
And laugh.
/hope his wife gets all the money he fraudulently scammed raised

Stay classy.


Oh I will. Haven't shot and killed any kids yet, so that's a win for me. I'm just waiting for this asshole to self-destruct... he was already proven to be a model of instability even before the incident that made him so infamous. If he decides to rearrange his dental work with a .45, I will not weep.
 
2013-09-22 02:53:07 PM

freak7: The problem with you Trayvon supporters is you have nothing but speculation to back up your position

...

...because Zimmerman killed the other witness.
 
2013-09-22 02:54:43 PM

freak7: Mercutio74: What's your source for Martin's demeanor?

What's your source for any of your assumptions? We have Zimmerman's recorded call as well as his interviews with police. Either he's a master liar who planned this whole event so he could kill a black guy, or he's telling the truth.

Come on, tell us how you know anything about what Martin was doing or how he felt that night?


You've got the tougher job.  You're trying to say that you know exactly what happened because Zimmerman said so.  Don't forget, this is a guy who finds someone he doesn't know having their garage door open at night suspicious.  So suspicious it's worth calling 911.  So, judging by the sheer volume of 911 calls that Zimmerman had originated, my tendency is to think he might have his suspicion threshold tuned a little too finely.

My take on the matter is that the only first hand testimony we have about what happened prior to Zimmerman and Martin getting into a physical altercation is the word of the guy who ended up killing the only other witness.  I'm sorry, but I detect that the guy who killed the other guy might have a vested interest in making sure that the shooting was justified.

Me, I think the story is probably more complicated than Zimmerman needs us to believe.  You, on the other hand, have some kind of desire to believe the eyewitness testimony of the accused.
 
2013-09-22 02:56:44 PM

jaytkay: freak7: The problem with you Trayvon supporters is you have nothing but speculation to back up your position...

...because Zimmerman killed the other witness.


Yep. Hard to get the other side of he story when that side is taking a dirt nap.
 
2013-09-22 02:58:52 PM
Yeah, Zimmerman was really farked up. Luckily he apparently had Wolverine-like healing powers.
 
2013-09-22 02:59:47 PM

Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?


With any luck, Georgie will see Miley in a hoody eating skittles.

DEADLY, DEADLY Skittles!!
 
2013-09-22 03:09:51 PM

grumpfuff: Mid_mo_mad_man: grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter

That really didn't address my question.

What I'm saying is there are people who say something to the effect of "Zimmerman was tried and found not guilty, so you have to accept that, but OJ is a murdering murderer who murders,even though he was tried and found not guilty."

It reminds me a lot of the "Obama is an empty suit dictator!" nonsense.


Precisely my point. Amazing the logical gymnastics that are on display.
 
2013-09-22 03:14:43 PM

freak7: the witness that saw Trayvon on top of George, swinging away, doesn't fit into your version of events so you choose to pretend he doesn't exist.


There was no such witness. Sorry the facts don't fit your needs. That must be difficult for you.

A neighbor said he "might" have seen Trayvon swinging but it was too dark to tell.
 
2013-09-22 03:19:11 PM
"You're wrong!"
"No, you're wrong!"
"No, YOU'RE wrong!"
"No, YOU'RE WRONG!"
"NO, YOU'RE WRONG!"
 
2013-09-22 03:21:07 PM

cygnusx13: iheartscotch: 1. I don't care to hear about farking George Zimmerman every time he takes a farking shiat. It's almost like 24 hour news networks use him to fill vacant time slots. He was acquitted; get over it.

2. Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

3. I should really get stock in scotch and popcorn stocks for these threads.

Posting on Fark clearly isn't your talent. Might I suggest highlights.com?


Hey now! I reserve the right to have whatever the hell opinion I choose; post said opinion as often as I feel necessary; and wave my private parts at your auntie.

/ I'm farrrrrr from the worst offender, around here. Please send complaints to:

I don't give a fark
123 smug bastard lane
 
2013-09-22 03:22:23 PM

freak7: You know how I know you don't know the basic facts of the case?


Ooh ooh!  I know this one.  Is it, "Because his account isn't the same as Zimmerman's"?
 
2013-09-22 03:26:07 PM

freak7: You know how I know you don't know the basic facts of the case?


You know how I know you haven't read the actual testimony?
 
2013-09-22 03:28:21 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Which was apparently accepted by the jury, but the Court of Pubic Opinion is still out.


HAHA!
 
2013-09-22 03:29:32 PM
static.someecards.com

First he was an asshole for not going into hiding after the trial.  Now he's an asshole for going into hiding after the trial.  Some people need to destroy him because they think he was supported by the people they hate.

Everybody drink!
 
2013-09-22 03:37:31 PM

freak7: jaytkay: ...because Zimmerman killed the other witness.

I guess the witness that saw Trayvon on top of George, swinging away, doesn't fit into your version of events so you choose to pretend he doesn't exist.


...except that there was no Zimmerman DNA found on Trayvon Martin's hands.  How the heck do you grab and pound the shiat out of guy's head without getting his DNA on your hands or under your fingernails?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf
 
2013-09-22 03:39:21 PM

cosmiquemuffin: How the heck do you grab and pound the shiat out of guy's head without getting his DNA on your hands or under your fingernails?


Clearly that's just one more point in the tally of "Reasons why Trayvon Martin really was behaving suspiciously".  How INDEED?  I think it's because Martin cleaned his own fingernails prior to shooting himself with Zimmerman's gun.  Suspicious.
 
2013-09-22 03:43:13 PM

grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?


i1211.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-22 03:45:39 PM

Vector R: grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

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I think it's because everyone knows Zimmerman shot Martin, he's even admitted it, but the laws of Florida and the jury still say he's not guilty.  OJ didn't even get that far.
 
2013-09-22 03:49:11 PM

freak7: Yeah, I'm sure this story is 100% accurate. Besides, you don't have to serve somebody with papers before you can divorce them, there are avenues you can take if unable to make contact with them.


Exactly. My mom and dad got divorced without her ever serving a single paper. It was all done by mail. He got to keep the crappy trailer,suv,stuff in the trailer and my mom got full custody of me.
 
2013-09-22 03:59:13 PM

freak7: jaytkay: freak7: You know how I know you don't know the basic facts of the case?

You know how I know you haven't read the actual testimony?

You might want to review your notes before you comment again. To help point you in the right direction, you're looking for the witness named John.


Correct, John Good. He is the witness whose testimony you are misrepresenting.
 
2013-09-22 04:05:18 PM

A Terrible Human: freak7: Yeah, I'm sure this story is 100% accurate. Besides, you don't have to serve somebody with papers before you can divorce them, there are avenues you can take if unable to make contact with them.

Exactly. My mom and dad got divorced without her ever serving a single paper. It was all done by mail. He got to keep the crappy trailer,suv,stuff in the trailer and my mom got full custody of me.


So...he got the better payout
 
2013-09-22 04:06:35 PM

freak7: Correct, John Good. He is the witness whose testimony you are misrepresenting.

Yeah, no. He said he saw Trayvon on top swinging away.


Nope. Go read the testimony. If you want to quote it here, don't be dishonest and skip the parts where he wasn't sure.
 
2013-09-22 04:15:27 PM

freak7: that's all that matters.


I think we can all agree that's all that matters to you.
 
2013-09-22 04:17:12 PM

freak7: What he saw was Trayvon on top swinging, that's all that matters.


He said swinging or maybe holding down.

Again, sorry. I know you are very emotionally wrapped up in your feelings for George Zimmerman, but you shouldn't let that cloud your judgment.
 
2013-09-22 04:19:45 PM
One thing is for certain. The news media did an utterly superb job of trying and convicting this man before the case even went to trial.
 
2013-09-22 04:20:27 PM
Trayvon Martin had it coming. Fact.
 
2013-09-22 04:21:20 PM

phenn: One thing is for certain. The news media did an utterly superb job of trying and convicting this man before the case even went to trial.


Well, he did do it.  No one ever contradicted that, not even Zimmerman.  The only reason he got off is because self defence laws relating to firearms are so farked up.
 
2013-09-22 04:32:43 PM

phenn: One thing is for certain. The news media did an utterly superb job of trying and convicting this man before the case even went to trial.


It's the only reason this case got any attention. Before the media got involved, this was being swept under the rug.

Heck, the only reason they got an acquittal was because the spd didn't collect the forensic evidence they should have, because who cares, it was just a black kid.
 
2013-09-22 04:34:49 PM

ThatDarkFellow: Trayvon Martin had it coming. Fact.


Lazy troll is lazy. Plonk.
 
2013-09-22 04:38:18 PM

freak7: Offer some proof to back your opinions.


Not my opinions. I'm talking about the testimony. Look it up if you want. Or not, if you want to cling to your beliefs.
 
2013-09-22 04:38:51 PM
I see the Zimmer Rimmers are out in force as usual.
 
2013-09-22 04:44:51 PM

Mercutio74: phenn: One thing is for certain. The news media did an utterly superb job of trying and convicting this man before the case even went to trial.

Well, he did do it.  No one ever contradicted that, not even Zimmerman.  The only reason he got off is because self defence laws relating to firearms are so farked up.


Well, I'm not going to get into an argument on anymore Zim threads. I will only say that I disagree. I think the laws are correct and they were followed in this case. No, I do not like the idea that a mother lost her son. Never will. It's sad all around.
 
2013-09-22 04:46:29 PM

phenn: Well, I'm not going to get into an argument on anymore Zim threads. I will only say that I disagree. I think the laws are correct and they were followed in this case. No, I do not like the idea that a mother lost her son. Never will. It's sad all around.


Personally I think the threshold for lethal self defence should be your life WAS in danger, not you FELT your life was in danger.
 
2013-09-22 04:47:45 PM

Mercutio74: phenn: One thing is for certain. The news media did an utterly superb job of trying and convicting this man before the case even went to trial.

Well, he did do it.  No one ever contradicted that, not even Zimmerman.  The only reason he got off is because self defence laws relating to firearms are so farked up.


Actually, he did a bunch of interviews.  His first lawyers left because, in part, he wouldn't stfu and kept giving interviews without his permission or knowledge.  On top of that he couldn't even keep his story straight between all the press interactions.
 
2013-09-22 04:51:36 PM

Mercutio74: phenn: Well, I'm not going to get into an argument on anymore Zim threads. I will only say that I disagree. I think the laws are correct and they were followed in this case. No, I do not like the idea that a mother lost her son. Never will. It's sad all around.

Personally I think the threshold for lethal self defence should be your life WAS in danger, not you FELT your life was in danger.


That's still pretty gray. Who's to say your life was not in danger? Nah, the law is correct (IMO).
 
2013-09-22 04:56:52 PM

phenn: That's still pretty gray. Who's to say your life was not in danger? Nah, the law is correct (IMO).


To me that would be part of the calculus when you decide whether or not to shoot a fellow human being (or even whether or not to take a gun when you go patrolling for "suspicious" individuals on your free time).  And the entity that would say if life was in danger or not would be the jury after the fact.

I guess I just look at carrying lethal weapons as something to be taken seriously, which is also why I think the laws should reflect that responsibility.
 
2013-09-22 05:02:46 PM

Mercutio74: I guess I just look at carrying lethal weapons as something to be taken seriously, which is also why I think the laws should reflect that responsibility.


It's a very serious matter, yes. Hey - I'd rather flight than fight and I carried for a long time.
 
2013-09-22 05:03:05 PM
It is really shameful that so many third parties spent so much energy labeling the wrong person a slimeball in the Zimmerman case.

I would think being George Zimmerman in Florida would be a very dangerous thing to be as almost anyone can shoot him dead on sight then claim 'Stand yer ground' as he's a known hot-headed killer with a gun.
 
2013-09-22 05:04:31 PM

s2s2s2: I'm getting a kick out of the inability of the haters to spell worth a damn, today.


I'm getting a kick out of the inability of some people to use a comma properly, today.
 
2013-09-22 05:06:16 PM

ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: DRINK!

Well at least it's almost noon.


10 years ago I would have given my left nut to have the opportunity to put my fingers up Z's sweet, sweet man organs.
Now, not so much.
I am not saying he is ugly, I am saying that he isn't as hot as he used to be

now anderson cooper?  that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with.  :)
 
2013-09-22 05:09:29 PM

Esroc: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

I don't see how Miley is self destructing. Other than an admittedly tasteless concert and music video she's done nothing overtly bad. I mean, she doesn't seem to be stumbling through a revolving door between rehab and coke-fueled party binges.


Wait till she gets access to her HM money. It'll happen.
 
2013-09-22 05:09:59 PM

cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)


You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".
 
2013-09-22 05:13:34 PM

Mercutio74: cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)

You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".


i am actually old enough to know how a record player works, and how that could be adapted...
 
2013-09-22 05:15:27 PM

cynicalminion: Mercutio74: cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)

You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".

i am actually old enough to know how a record player works, and how that could be adapted...


Should we get off your lawn?
 
2013-09-22 05:16:57 PM
Zimmerman? Hide? HA! Dude couldn't even do that right.

Since he seems to crave the spotlight so much, going into hiding would be like depriving him of food and oxygen.
 
2013-09-22 05:18:31 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: [img198.imageshack.us image 640x478]


That took me a second to figure that picture out.
 
2013-09-22 05:22:42 PM

grumpfuff: cynicalminion: Mercutio74: cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)

You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".

i am actually old enough to know how a record player works, and how that could be adapted...

Should we get off your lawn?


only if you're allergic to pesticides...  so no picnics for a day or two either...
 
2013-09-22 05:26:02 PM

cynicalminion: Mercutio74: cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)

You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".

i am actually old enough to know how a record player works, and how that could be adapted...


One of the things I like about Fark... you'll see a thread to go from discussing the merits of a non-guilty killer to hypothetical techniques to fark Anderson Cooper in the blink of an eye.
 
2013-09-22 05:35:19 PM

Mercutio74: cynicalminion: Mercutio74: cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)

You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".

i am actually old enough to know how a record player works, and how that could be adapted...

One of the things I like about Fark... you'll see a thread to go from discussing the merits of a non-guilty killer to hypothetical techniques to fark Anderson Cooper in the blink of an eye.


not in the eye.  that's just gross.
 
2013-09-22 05:40:21 PM

freak7: Mercutio74: What's your source for Martin's demeanor?

What's your source for any of your assumptions? We have Zimmerman's recorded call as well as his interviews with police. Either he's a master liar who planned this whole event so he could kill a black guy, or he's telling the truth.

Come on, tell us how you know anything about what Martin was doing or how he felt that night?


I am sure he felt immense pain right before he felt death at the hands of a wannabe cop. Think about it for minute. This dude couldn't get employment as a cop in some chicken shiat town. Every cop I have ever known had brain activity slightly higher than a raw egg. Yet Zimbo somehow couldn't cut muster. That my friend is the making of a frustrated loser that had dreams of being a hero.
 
2013-09-22 05:55:20 PM
First off, why are we still hearing about him? Second, divorce her! I wish I could be lucky enough to have my wife want to divorce me.

/can't flim flam the zim zam
 
2013-09-22 06:12:42 PM

freak7: Yeah, I'm sure this story is 100% accurate. Besides, you don't have to serve somebody with papers before you can divorce them, there are avenues you can take if unable to make contact with them.


My cousin's ex-husband tried to hide from it too.

In pennsylvania all she hadto do is prove she tried to contact him (mail recipets) and then place a classified ad in the newspaper stating her intent to divorce him.

I'm sure florida has similar laws.
 
2013-09-22 06:14:28 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.


I didn't defend Zimmerman, but I also understood that Trayvon wasn't the baby-faced Cherub the media portrayed him as.  There simply wasn't enough information on either side to make a definitive call on what happened that night, which is pretty sad.

On that note...Zimmerman sure does seem that he's spiraling down very quickly into crazy territory.  Yeesh.
 
2013-09-22 06:19:17 PM

kortex: First off, why are we still hearing about him? Second, divorce her! I wish I could be lucky enough to have my wife want to divorce me.

/can't flim flam the zim zam


cosblog.cosmelentertainment.com
 
2013-09-22 06:21:21 PM

cynicalminion: kortex: First off, why are we still hearing about him? Second, divorce her! I wish I could be lucky enough to have my wife want to divorce me.

/can't flim flam the zim zam

[cosblog.cosmelentertainment.com image 800x622]


That movie should be required viewing for everyone.
 
2013-09-22 06:21:24 PM

freak7: cretinbob: Remeber folks, Zimmerman's entire defense is that he was a big pussy

Tell us about the times you've been sucker punched in the nose?


You know how I know you didn't pay attention to the trial?
 
2013-09-22 06:23:41 PM

skinink: Want to bring him out of hiding? Have a black teen walk down the street wearing a hoodie and eating Skittles. To Zimmerman that's like catnip.


Whereas to a lot of idiots, eating Skittles somehow renders you incapable of wrongdoing.

"But he was just a little chiiiiiiiild eating Skiiiiiittles!"
 
2013-09-22 06:27:13 PM

MadAzza: skinink: Want to bring him out of hiding? Have a black teen walk down the street wearing a hoodie and eating Skittles. To Zimmerman that's like catnip.

Whereas to a lot of idiots, eating Skittles somehow renders you incapable of wrongdoing.

"But he was just a little chiiiiiiiild eating Skiiiiiittles!"


More like a gangster trying to make lean before he goes and shoots white people. Good riddance.


/donated to the Zim's defense
 
2013-09-22 06:30:48 PM

Fade2black: I didn't defend Zimmerman, but I also understood that Trayvon wasn't the baby-faced Cherub the media portrayed him as. There simply wasn't enough information on either side to make a definitive call on what happened that night, which is pretty sad.


But the question is what was Martin doing on that night that would warrant him being stalked and eventually killed by Zimmerman.  Martin may have been the next Bond villain waiting to happen, or he might have been the 2nd coming of Jesus...  that's immaterial.  Zimmerman went out that night looking for suspicious goings-on and ended up killing a teenager who didn't seem to do anything wrong.  Judging by the facts of the case, the worst thing he did was fight some weird dude that was following him.
 
2013-09-22 06:31:30 PM

grumpfuff: Mid_mo_mad_man: grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.


I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter

That really didn't address my question.

What I'm saying is there are people who say something to the effect of "Zimmerman was tried and found not guilty, so you have to accept that, but OJ is a murdering murderer who murders,even though he was tried and found not guilty."

It reminds me a lot of the "Obama is an empty suit dictator!" nonsense.


In the civil trial, OJ was, in effect, "found guilty." That's why people can call him a murderer and not get sued for slander.
 
2013-09-22 06:33:33 PM

Mercutio74: But the question is what was Martin doing on that night that would warrant him being stalked and eventually killed by Zimmerman.  Martin may have been the next Bond villain waiting to happen, or he might have been the 2nd coming of Jesus...  that's immaterial.  Zimmerman went out that night looking for suspicious goings-on and ended up killing a teenager who didn't seem to do anything wrong.  Judging by the facts of the case, the worst thing he did was fight some weird dude that was following him.


And as we now know, he did this after having a big fight with his wife in which she left the city to get away from him.

But don't let anyone apply that Zimmerman was angry.
 
2013-09-22 06:41:26 PM

cryinoutloud: cretinbob: RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.
You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.
[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]

She looks like a Grade-A coont. It should have been a match made in heaven. Damn you, Trayvon Martin, for destroying such a beautiful marriage!


She had left the marital home the evening before the Big Bad Zim Zam Boom went on his estrogen fueled whiny rampage.
 
2013-09-22 06:42:47 PM

Mercutio74: phenn: Well, I'm not going to get into an argument on anymore Zim threads. I will only say that I disagree. I think the laws are correct and they were followed in this case. No, I do not like the idea that a mother lost her son. Never will. It's sad all around.

Personally I think the threshold for lethal self defence should be your life WAS in danger, not you FELT your life was in danger.


OK. Supposing I point a gun at you. You, too, have a gun. You freak out, and shoot and kill me. However, my gun was unloaded.

Haha, joke's on you! You go to prison for 20 years, because your life was not in danger.

And what you "felt" doesn't matter, just like you wanted.
 
2013-09-22 06:45:02 PM

cynicalminion: Mercutio74: cynicalminion: Mercutio74: cynicalminion: now anderson cooper? that's the kinda fox i'd like to get friendly with. :)

You're probably just curious as to how he got the nickname "360".

i am actually old enough to know how a record player works, and how that could be adapted...

One of the things I like about Fark... you'll see a thread to go from discussing the merits of a non-guilty killer to hypothetical techniques to fark Anderson Cooper in the blink of an eye.

not in the eye.  that's just gross.


But yes, I've had it in the ear before.
 
2013-09-22 06:45:15 PM
At this point in time the only people who think Zimmerman didn't kill that boy was people who have no grip on reality and only see what they want. Odds are good they are also religious.
 
2013-09-22 06:46:59 PM

kortex: MadAzza: skinink: Want to bring him out of hiding? Have a black teen walk down the street wearing a hoodie and eating Skittles. To Zimmerman that's like catnip.

Whereas to a lot of idiots, eating Skittles somehow renders you incapable of wrongdoing.

"But he was just a little chiiiiiiiild eating Skiiiiiittles!"

More like a gangster trying to make lean before he goes and shoots white people. Good riddance.


/donated to the Zim's defense


I hear you, I think Cally Anthony had it coming too.

I mean, in all likely hood she would have just grown up to be a whore like her mother, right?
 
2013-09-22 06:51:10 PM

AgentPothead: At this point in time the only people who think Zimmerman didn't kill that boy was people who have no grip on reality and only see what they want. Odds are good they are also religious.


That's odd. I can't think of a single person who doesn't know that Zimmerman shot and killed his assailant ... I mean, that poor Skittles-eating little boy.
 
2013-09-22 06:52:00 PM

MadAzza: OK. Supposing I point a gun at you. You, too, have a gun. You freak out, and shoot and kill me. However, my gun was unloaded.

Haha, joke's on you! You go to prison for 20 years, because your life was not in danger.

And what you "felt" doesn't matter, just like you wanted.


Fair enough, you got me there.

I was thinking more along the lines of "If you are in a fist fight and losing, don't shoot the other guy dead (or at all, for that matter).  Especially if you were looking for trouble in the first place."  I just expressed myself really poorly.

It seems odd to me that a regular civilian can arm themselves and literally go into society, look for suspicious people, follow someone that meets their personal criteria of suspicious, engage them, follow them further, physically fight them, and then shoot them and that's all perfectly legal.  It boggles my mind.
 
2013-09-22 06:54:26 PM

freak7: udhq: Yes, the armed man with a long history of violent crime stalking a child he didn't know after dark was doing nothing wrong.

George had no criminal record, care to check your facts before responding?


He was arrested for assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest.

His mom works for the court system and got the charges dropped to something mild.

Ironically he would have never had gotten a CC permit with the original charge.
 
2013-09-22 06:55:44 PM

grumpfuff: cynicalminion: kortex: First off, why are we still hearing about him? Second, divorce her! I wish I could be lucky enough to have my wife want to divorce me.

/can't flim flam the zim zam

[cosblog.cosmelentertainment.com image 800x622]

That movie should be required viewing for everyone.


There's the sequel that should've happened.  Mel Brooks isn't dead yet, but you might want to hurry.
 
2013-09-22 06:58:26 PM

AgentPothead: At this point in time the only people who think Zimmerman didn't kill that boy was people who have no grip on reality and only see what they want. Odds are good they are also religious.


You make no sense at all.  Nobody disputes he didn't kill him...the case was over self defense.  Sounds like you need the reality check.

/not even religious, either.
//you sound bitter
 
2013-09-22 06:59:30 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.


A child died. The bullet came from his gun. Legally justified or not, if our society weren't pissed off,  something would be seriously wrong with us.

Social consequences exist for a myriad of reasons, and they aren't all bad ones.
 
2013-09-22 07:25:17 PM
Wow, between this thread and the Benghazi threads, Troll7 is eating like a king!
 
2013-09-22 07:43:23 PM
How long before Zimmerman runs for public office? He could be fresh young face the republicans are looking for.
 
2013-09-22 07:45:07 PM

freak7: Better than siding with a violent criminal.


freak7: You're goddamn right it is. Trayvon was a violent thug with a long history of criminal activity and got exactly what he deserved.


So, Martin, who had no contact with the police, never had been arrested, never charged with a crime is a criminal? Okay, what does that make Zimmerman with his extensive contact with the police including being arrested for assault on an office?

freak7: udhq: Yes, the armed man with a long history of violent crime stalking a child he didn't know after dark was doing nothing wrong.

George had no criminal record, care to check your facts before responding?


What do you know, when it comes to Martin, you have no issue calling him a criminal yet god forbid anyone call Zimmerman a criminal. And you're also lying, big surprise, as you well know Zimmerman had a criminal record.

Disingenuous scumbag is disingenuous.
 
2013-09-22 07:47:37 PM

The Larch: How long before Zimmerman runs for public office? He could be fresh young face the republicans are looking for.


Oh you!  Such the party of moral superiority you are.  At least you guys weren't down syndrome enough to actually vote for the guy in New York that can't keep his dongle off his twitter account!
 
2013-09-22 07:50:35 PM
Whatever the thing with Martin, Zimmerman and his whole bullshiat thing is a hilarious trainwreck. This stupid farker has been paraded around as some sort of symbol of "Stand yer Ground" type shiat and it turns out he's a farking moron in real life. Yeah, Florida said he's not guilty, that's fine. But he's a douche of the highest caliber, a wannbe cop who couldn't cut it and who decided to buy a POS pistol and play cop in his shiatty, cookie cutter development.

He's the asshole who helped make gunshows no fun anymore. 90% of you wouldn't even like his stupid ass in person. I find it absolutely hilarious that the retards on the right have chosen to make this loser some sort of symbol. As each year passes the right is choosing worse and worse "poster boys". First a pants shiatting musician who  crows for war yet got out of Vietnam. Next was a "white hispanic" who is mentally unstable and couldn't get into the Police Academy.
 
2013-09-22 07:57:28 PM

Kozaru: s2s2s2: I'm getting a kick out of the inability of the haters to spell worth a damn, today.

I'm getting a kick out of the inability of some people to use a comma properly, today.


You must be speaking of someone else. That was proper useage.

Nice try, friendo.
 
2013-09-22 08:02:56 PM

Kozaru: s2s2s2: I'm getting a kick out of the inability of the haters to spell worth a damn, today.

I'm getting a kick out of the inability of some people to use a comma properly, today.


I'm getting a kick out of the inability of some people to use a comma, properly, today.

FTFY
 
2013-09-22 08:23:01 PM

trotsky: Whatever the thing with Martin, Zimmerman and his whole bullshiat thing is a hilarious trainwreck. This stupid farker has been paraded around as some sort of symbol of "Stand yer Ground" type shiat and it turns out he's a farking moron in real life. Yeah, Florida said he's not guilty, that's fine. But he's a douche of the highest caliber, a wannbe cop who couldn't cut it and who decided to buy a POS pistol and play cop in his shiatty, cookie cutter development.

He's the asshole who helped make gunshows no fun anymore. 90% of you wouldn't even like his stupid ass in person. I find it absolutely hilarious that the retards on the right have chosen to make this loser some sort of symbol. As each year passes the right is choosing worse and worse "poster boys". First a pants shiatting musician who  crows for war yet got out of Vietnam. Next was a "white hispanic" who is mentally unstable and couldn't get into the Police Academy.


Our mistake, sorry.  We forgot the left is full of morally superior and virtuous upstanding politicians of the highest caliber.
 
2013-09-22 08:28:29 PM

freak7: You're wrong and you know it. My belief is that there's an eyewitness that places Trayvon on top of George, throwing punches, less than a minute before the shot is fired. That's a fact that's backed up by statements, and testimony. Sorry pal, you lose.


So, Frep, which witness testified that Martin sucker punched Zimmerman? You state it as a fact so I assume you have proof.
 
2013-09-22 08:31:24 PM
PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!
 
2013-09-22 08:34:14 PM

shower_in_my_socks: The guns rights activists picked a great poster boy with this guy. I'm sure he'll do them proud.


And Sean Hannity, that great judge of character, couldn't sing his praises high enough.
 
2013-09-22 08:46:11 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The J4M crowd on Fark seems to know nothing about the shooting they are wanting to lynch him for. A sane rational person who followed the case knows with out a shadow of doubt that the verdict was correct. No shred of evidence says that it was a justified killing. Race baiters and suffers of whit guilt turned it into a circus and ruined this mans life. I guarantee that if it was two white men involed this wouldn't even gone to trail. People need to accept the facts and move on.


are you contradicting your self here? is this a Freudian slip? a Jungian slip? because what you wrote is correct, there is no justification for the killing of Martin by Zimmerman. none. it never had to happen. and so far as i'm concerned any bad thing that happens to Zimmerman is karma. and i hope there is lots of it.
 
2013-09-22 08:46:25 PM

MadAzza: Mercutio74: phenn: Well, I'm not going to get into an argument on anymore Zim threads. I will only say that I disagree. I think the laws are correct and they were followed in this case. No, I do not like the idea that a mother lost her son. Never will. It's sad all around.

Personally I think the threshold for lethal self defence should be your life WAS in danger, not you FELT your life was in danger.

OK. Supposing I point a gun at you. You, too, have a gun. You freak out, and shoot and kill me. However, my gun was unloaded.

Haha, joke's on you! You go to prison for 20 years, because your life was not in danger.

And what you "felt" doesn't matter, just like you wanted.


Err, I'm not sure that's correct.   I believe most U.S. jurisdictions use a "reasonable man" standard of self-defense, and it's reasonable to assume the gun pointed at you is loaded, and act according.

/am a lawyer
//not a criminal lawyer
///don't try this at home
 
2013-09-22 08:48:16 PM

MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!


No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.
 
2013-09-22 08:59:40 PM

cosmiquemuffin: freak7: jaytkay: ...because Zimmerman killed the other witness.

I guess the witness that saw Trayvon on top of George, swinging away, doesn't fit into your version of events so you choose to pretend he doesn't exist.

...except that there was no Zimmerman DNA found on Trayvon Martin's hands.  How the heck do you grab and pound the shiat out of guy's head without getting his DNA on your hands or under your fingernails?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf


Have you never been in a fight?

Possibility one:  Head butt to Z's nose, the cops probably didn't swab M's forehead, and even if they did, DNA transfer isn't 100 percent automatic, every time.  Real life isn't like CSI.

Possibility two:  M grabs Z's clothes/jacket front/shoulders, and slams him into the pavement.  No likely DNA transfer.

Possibility three:  M grabs Z's ears, slams him into the pavement.  STILL no guaranteed DNA transfer.  No idea if the cops ever tried to get prints off Z, or his clothes.

The blood from Z's nose (as opposed to the back of his head) was the most likely thing to get on M, and if it didn't start flowing immediately, even a bare-handed punch wouldn't guarantee transfer.

Life doesn't always imitate Tarantino movies...
 
2013-09-22 09:00:09 PM

PsiChick: MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!

No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.


Had that child* not been shot, that man* would have been arrested for assault, and taken to big boy jail.

*Trayvon
 
2013-09-22 09:04:18 PM

freak7: jaytkay: freak7: What he saw was Trayvon on top swinging, that's all that matters.

He said swinging or maybe holding down.

Again, sorry. I know you are very emotionally wrapped up in your feelings for George Zimmerman, but you shouldn't let that cloud your judgment.

Offer some proof to back your opinions. Can you do that? Speculation not allowed.


How about the fact that Martin had no Zimmerman DNA on his hands, if he was supposedly beating the crap out of him?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf
 
2013-09-22 09:07:26 PM

freak7: My belief is that there's an eyewitness that places Trayvon on top of George, throwing punches, less than a minute before the shot is fired.


The court testimony does not match your belief.  Normal people understand belief is different from fact.

But don't feel bad. I'm sure George will be having fund-raisers where you can release your "belief" all over his face (or vice versa, whatever, I do not judge you two).
 
2013-09-22 09:10:54 PM

cosmiquemuffin: freak7: jaytkay: freak7: What he saw was Trayvon on top swinging, that's all that matters.

He said swinging or maybe holding down.

Again, sorry. I know you are very emotionally wrapped up in your feelings for George Zimmerman, but you shouldn't let that cloud your judgment.

Offer some proof to back your opinions. Can you do that? Speculation not allowed.

How about the fact that Martin had no Zimmerman DNA on his hands, if he was supposedly beating the crap out of him?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf


He had George's blood on his shirt.
 
2013-09-22 09:13:38 PM

jaytkay: freak7: My belief is that there's an eyewitness that places Trayvon on top of George, throwing punches, less than a minute before the shot is fired.

The court testimony does not match your belief.  Normal people understand belief is different from fact.

But don't feel bad. I'm sure George will be having fund-raisers where you can release your "belief" all over his face (or vice versa, whatever, I do not judge you two).


The guy who saw what freak7 says he saw, was Mark Goode. He testified that George looked him in the eye and asked for help, from underneath Trayvon. You are wrong.
 
2013-09-22 09:24:20 PM

cretinbob: RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white.  I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.

You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


You sure about that?  She looks half Hutt
 
2013-09-22 09:26:05 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.



Mchael Moore:  "I believe we've become so used to this image of the black man as predator that we are forever ruined by this brainwashing. In my first film, Roger & Me, a white woman on social security clubs a rabbit to death so that she can sell him as "meat" instead of as a pet. I wish I had a nickel for every time in the past 10 years that someone has come up to me and told me how "horrified" they were when they saw that "poor little cute bunny" bonked on the head. The scene, they say, made them physically sick. The Motion Picture Association of America gave Roger & Me an R <18> rating in response to that rabbit killing. Teachers write to me and say they have to edit that part out of the film, if they want to show it to their students.

But less than two minutes after the bunny lady does her deed, I included footage of a scene in which police in Flint, Michigan, shot a black man who was wearing a Superman cape and holding a plastic toy gun. Not once - not ever - has anyone said to me, "I can't believe you showed a black man being shot in your movie! How horrible! How disgusting! I couldn't sleep for weeks." After all, he was just a black man, not a cute, cuddly bunny. The ratings board saw absolutely nothing wrong with that scene. Why? Because it's normal, natural. We've become so accustomed to seeing black men killed - in the movies and on the evening news - that we now accept it as standard operating procedure. No big deal! That's what blacks do - kill and die. Ho-hum. Pass the butter."
 
2013-09-22 09:27:18 PM

PunGent: cosmiquemuffin: freak7: jaytkay: ...because Zimmerman killed the other witness.

I guess the witness that saw Trayvon on top of George, swinging away, doesn't fit into your version of events so you choose to pretend he doesn't exist.

...except that there was no Zimmerman DNA found on Trayvon Martin's hands.  How the heck do you grab and pound the shiat out of guy's head without getting his DNA on your hands or under your fingernails?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf

Have you never been in a fight?

Possibility one:  Head butt to Z's nose, the cops probably didn't swab M's forehead, and even if they did, DNA transfer isn't 100 percent automatic, every time.  Real life isn't like CSI.

Possibility two:  M grabs Z's clothes/jacket front/shoulders, and slams him into the pavement.  No likely DNA transfer.

Possibility three:  M grabs Z's ears, slams him into the pavement.  STILL no guaranteed DNA transfer.  No idea if the cops ever tried to get prints off Z, or his clothes.

The blood from Z's nose (as opposed to the back of his head) was the most likely thing to get on M, and if it didn't start flowing immediately, even a bare-handed punch wouldn't guarantee transfer.

Life doesn't always imitate Tarantino movies...


Possibility Occam: Martin didn't beat on Zimmerman.  If you are beating the crap out of a guy it is a long stretch to have zero none nada DNA on your hands as a result.
 
2013-09-22 09:44:12 PM

s2s2s2: cosmiquemuffin: freak7: jaytkay: freak7: What he saw was Trayvon on top swinging, that's all that matters.

He said swinging or maybe holding down.

Again, sorry. I know you are very emotionally wrapped up in your feelings for George Zimmerman, but you shouldn't let that cloud your judgment.

Offer some proof to back your opinions. Can you do that? Speculation not allowed.

How about the fact that Martin had no Zimmerman DNA on his hands, if he was supposedly beating the crap out of him?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf

He had George's blood on his shirt.


Which would show up if Zimmerman had a cut on his hand and grabbed Martin's shirt.
 
2013-09-22 09:44:34 PM
s2s2s2: The guy who saw what freak7 says he saw, was Mark Goode. He testified that George looked him in the eye and asked for help, from underneath Trayvon.

Your comprehension of reality is very limited. My sympathies. That must be difficult for you.

1) His first name is not Mark.

2) His last name is not Goode.

3) He did not testify that "George looked him in the eye and asked for help, from underneath Trayvon".

Good luck in life.

You need it.
 
2013-09-22 09:47:58 PM

freak7: NightOwl2255: So, Frep, which witness testified that Martin sucker punched Zimmerman? You state it as a fact so I assume you have proof.

Zim said it in his statements to police. Can you prove it's not true?


Can you prove it is?

/no dog in this fight
//just a fan of intellectual honesty
 
2013-09-22 10:16:50 PM

freak7: grumpfuff: Can you prove it is?

Is that important?


Well, yes. Someone else said "X!" You said "X is wrong! It's Y!" That's fine, you can say that. But if you want people to accept what you say, you should provide proof that it is Y, not X. Otherwise, to the neutral outsider, it looks like a case of "He said, she said."
 
2013-09-22 10:25:35 PM
cdn3.sbnation.com

Hide yo kids, Hide (from) yo wife...

/we gone find you
 
2013-09-22 10:45:51 PM

freak7: grumpfuff: Well, yes. Someone else said "X!" You said "X is wrong! It's Y!" That's fine, you can say that. But if you want people to accept what you say, you should provide proof that it is Y, not X. Otherwise, to the neutral outsider, it looks like a case of "He said, she said."

It is a case of he said she said. I have a court verdict backing up my opinion, what does the other side have?


You don't understand how court verdicts work.
 
2013-09-22 10:54:38 PM

freak7: udhq: You don't understand how court verdicts work.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's you and the rest of Team Trayvon.


No. The jury didn't decide Zimmerman was innocent, or his story checked out or he really was defending himself.

All they decided was that there wasn't enough evidence to convict, and that was because the spd didn't collect the the forensic evidence they should have, because before the media got involved, the were hoping they could sweep this all under the rug.
 
2013-09-22 10:58:11 PM

freak7: grumpfuff: Well, yes. Someone else said "X!" You said "X is wrong! It's Y!" That's fine, you can say that. But if you want people to accept what you say, you should provide proof that it is Y, not X. Otherwise, to the neutral outsider, it looks like a case of "He said, she said."

It is a case of he said she said. I have a court verdict backing up my opinion, what does the other side have?


I point you to the courts finding OJ not guilty, and yet most people thinking he's guilty. Even if he published a book called "If I Did It", what right do we have to assume he did actually do it, if a court found him not guilty?

I see it as a case that got so farked by pre-trail bullshiat (from both pro-Martin and pro-Zimmerman sides), that the court findings are pretty much not to be taken seriously(and yes, I would say the same if Zimmerman was found guilty).

The pro-Zimmerman side sits there and says "Well according to Zimmerman, it went down (like this)." Well sure, of course Zimmerman paints it in a light that shows him as the good guy. Did you think he'd sit there and be like "Oh sure, I shot him for no good reason"?

Meanwhile, the pro-Martin side usually goes with something along the lines of "He was just a kid in a hoodie getting skittles!" Of course, no kid in a hoodie getting skittles could ever be up to no good. That's simply unthinkable.

So yea. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but in my eyes, most of the people who argue for or against either side in this case end up looking like people who are more interested in what their gut tells them happened, not what actually happened.
 
2013-09-22 11:21:05 PM
Fair enough, everybody knows you're just making shiat up anyways.
 
2013-09-22 11:28:19 PM

udhq: Fair enough, everybody knows you're just making shiat up anyways.


Just remember, to Frep A.K.A. Freak, Martin who had never had any contact with the police, never been arrested, never been accused of a crime has a long history of violent criminal behavior. But St. Zimmerman, who has a long history of contact with the police, has been arrested, has been accused by several people of assault is not a criminal. That's how the mind of a Zimmer Rimmer works. He's a clown.
 
2013-09-22 11:35:19 PM

cosmiquemuffin: Which would show up if Zimmerman had a cut on his hand and grabbed Martin's shirt.


Zimmerman had no wounds on his hands.

Want to try any other fantasy scenarios out?
 
2013-09-22 11:45:03 PM

jaytkay: Your comprehension of reality is very limited. My sympathies. That must be difficult for you.


Doesn't make much difference that it's John Good, does it?

rewind2846: s2s2s2: rewind2846: I'm betting on the mass shooting or suicide by cop.
On that day, even though I don't drink and haven't had a drop since 1986, I will have a beer.
And laugh.

/hope his wife gets all the money he fraudulently scammed raised

Stay classy.

Oh I will.
Haven't shot and killed any kids yet, so that's a win for me. I'm just waiting for this asshole to self-destruct... he was already proven to be a model of instability even before the incident that made him so infamous. If he decides to rearrange his dental work with a .45, I will not weep.



"Classy"
 
2013-09-22 11:53:05 PM
s2s2s2:
"Classy"

Hey, I'm not the one on his knees defending a killer.
Whatever floats your dinghy, though...
 
2013-09-23 12:12:34 AM

rewind2846: s2s2s2:
"Classy"

Hey, I'm not the one on his knees defending a killer.
Whatever floats your dinghy, though...


Having an opinion = sucking the D(NTTATWWT)?
 
2013-09-23 12:28:37 AM

PsiChick: MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!

No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.


The child was physically bigger and stronger, and attacked Zimmerman, slamming his head against the sidewalk. If Zimmerman hadn't acted to stop this "child" he himself would be dead.
 
2013-09-23 12:31:46 AM

s2s2s2: rewind2846: s2s2s2:
"Classy"

Hey, I'm not the one on his knees defending a killer.
Whatever floats your dinghy, though...

Having an opinion = sucking the D(NTTATWWT)?


You can believe that the evidence wasn't there to convict (which I happen to agree with) and still think that there was a terrible miscarriage of justice, that Zimmerman is clearly a violent thug, and that the campaign to smear the victim was abhorrent.
 
2013-09-23 12:37:32 AM

Penman: PsiChick: MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!

No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.

The child was physically bigger and stronger, and attacked Zimmerman, slamming his head against the sidewalk. If Zimmerman hadn't acted to stop this "child" he himself would be dead.


That's just not true. Zimmerman had a significant weight advantage over Trayvon, was trained in MMA, and had the element of surprise.

If you seriously believe that a seventeen year old kid who was allegedly intoxicated was able to overpower hits much bigger assailant, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
 
2013-09-23 12:47:10 AM

Penman: PsiChick: MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!

No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.

The child was physically bigger and stronger, and attacked Zimmerman, slamming his head against the sidewalk. If Zimmerman hadn't acted to stop this "child" he himself would be dead.


Even if you were right, guess what?

Kid's still dead. People are still going to be upset. Same as if a police officer shot a child who was in full-blown meltdown and mentally ill. No matter how justified, society mourns dead children. Your point is totally irrelevant.
 
2013-09-23 12:51:12 AM

udhq: Penman: PsiChick: MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!

No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.

The child was physically bigger and stronger, and attacked Zimmerman, slamming his head against the sidewalk. If Zimmerman hadn't acted to stop this "child" he himself would be dead.

That's just not true. Zimmerman had a significant weight advantage over Trayvon, was trained in MMA, and had the element of surprise.

If you seriously believe that a seventeen year old kid who was allegedly intoxicated was able to overpower hits much bigger assailant, then I've got a bridge to sell you.


Let's be honest: Zimmerman was a fatty. Trayvon outclassed him. Fortunately Zimmerman was able to use his training to outsmart his attacker.
 
2013-09-23 12:54:32 AM

PsiChick: Even if you were right, guess what?

Kid's still dead. People are still going to be upset. Same as if a police officer shot a child who was in full-blown meltdown and mentally ill. No matter how justified, society mourns dead children. Your point is totally irrelevant.


Well yeah if you think it's sad when anybody at all dies, then I guess that's true.
 
2013-09-23 12:58:54 AM

Penman: udhq: Penman: PsiChick: MadAzza: PsiChick:

A child died.

Oh, for fark's sake, here we go again. DRINK!

No. Facts are not disputable. A minor, a person under eighteen, is a child. A child is afforded extra protections by society. A child is dead. The gun came from Zimmerman's bullet. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you feel it was  legally justified,  people will have a problem with this.

You do not get to ignore the real world because it's annoying you.

The child was physically bigger and stronger, and attacked Zimmerman, slamming his head against the sidewalk. If Zimmerman hadn't acted to stop this "child" he himself would be dead.

That's just not true. Zimmerman had a significant weight advantage over Trayvon, was trained in MMA, and had the element of surprise.

If you seriously believe that a seventeen year old kid who was allegedly intoxicated was able to overpower hits much bigger assailant, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Let's be honest: Zimmerman was a fatty. Trayvon outclassed him. Fortunately Zimmerman was able to use his training to outsmart his attacker.


Sure, if by "outsmart" you mean "shoot in cold blood" and by "attacker" you mean "the child that he was stalking after dark."
 
2013-09-23 01:11:58 AM

Penman: PsiChick: Even if you were right, guess what?

Kid's still dead. People are still going to be upset. Same as if a police officer shot a child who was in full-blown meltdown and mentally ill. No matter how justified, society mourns dead children. Your point is totally irrelevant.

Well yeah if you think it's sad when anybody at all dies, then I guess that's true.


Most people do think it's a bit sad, yes, but society reserves special emotions for children. Because, you know, if we were hardwired not to care about children,  humans wouldn't exist as a species.
 
2013-09-23 03:13:04 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.


While there's some of this going on, it can't help at all that what got him into the predicament in the first place was having the conflict resolution skills of a mollusk and the general intelligence of a fungus.

He was already kind of at the bottom of the barrel as far as solving his problems went, as humans go.  Getting random hate mail and having a prosecutor try to railroad him (which, in all fairness, was the case, when you're clearly guilty of manslaughter and the DA goes for murder 2 you're getting shafted by the system) can't have helped, but all it did was make what was already a problem into a self-reinforcing problem.
 
2013-09-23 04:11:42 AM

Penman: Let's be honest: Zimmerman was a fatty. Trayvon outclassed him. Fortunately Zimmerman was able to use his training to outsmart his attacker.


Heh.

I know you're a troll account and all, but what training would that be, exactly?
 
2013-09-23 04:20:22 AM

Jim_Callahan: While there's some of this going on


Some?

More than I've ever seen in my life is not "some"
 
2013-09-23 06:25:23 AM

cosmiquemuffin: PunGent: cosmiquemuffin: freak7: jaytkay: ...because Zimmerman killed the other witness.

I guess the witness that saw Trayvon on top of George, swinging away, doesn't fit into your version of events so you choose to pretend he doesn't exist.

...except that there was no Zimmerman DNA found on Trayvon Martin's hands.  How the heck do you grab and pound the shiat out of guy's head without getting his DNA on your hands or under your fingernails?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf

Have you never been in a fight?

Possibility one:  Head butt to Z's nose, the cops probably didn't swab M's forehead, and even if they did, DNA transfer isn't 100 percent automatic, every time.  Real life isn't like CSI.

Possibility two:  M grabs Z's clothes/jacket front/shoulders, and slams him into the pavement.  No likely DNA transfer.

Possibility three:  M grabs Z's ears, slams him into the pavement.  STILL no guaranteed DNA transfer.  No idea if the cops ever tried to get prints off Z, or his clothes.

The blood from Z's nose (as opposed to the back of his head) was the most likely thing to get on M, and if it didn't start flowing immediately, even a bare-handed punch wouldn't guarantee transfer.

Life doesn't always imitate Tarantino movies...

Possibility Occam: Martin didn't beat on Zimmerman.  If you are beating the crap out of a guy it is a long stretch to have zero none nada DNA on your hands as a result.


Yeah...problem is, there's SOME evidence M was on top of Z...and no evidence to the contrary.
And Occam's Razor means the injuries to the front AND back of Z's head were inflicted by someone, at the least, knocking him over.   Unless you think M got behind him and punched him in the head?

Law school 101:  crappy evidence trumps NO evidence.

/even racist losers have the right to self-defense.
 
2013-09-23 06:36:24 AM

cosmiquemuffin: freak7: jaytkay: freak7: What he saw was Trayvon on top swinging, that's all that matters.

He said swinging or maybe holding down.

Again, sorry. I know you are very emotionally wrapped up in your feelings for George Zimmerman, but you shouldn't let that cloud your judgment.

Offer some proof to back your opinions. Can you do that? Speculation not allowed.

How about the fact that Martin had no Zimmerman DNA on his hands, if he was supposedly beating the crap out of him?
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2012/09/19/case_pa rt _5_Gorgone_FDLE_complete_report_7_26_12_.pdf


Sigh.

Your link says "fingernail scrapings" were taken from M.

Now, make a fist.  Look at it.

See how your fingernails are ON THE INSIDE?

Tough to get DNA transfer there.
 
2013-09-23 09:07:40 AM

PunGent: there's SOME evidence M was on top of Z


Right. Zimmerman's word, which I'm sure we can safely say means that at no time was he on top. amirite?

PunGent: Your link says "fingernail scrapings" were taken from M.

Now, make a fist.  Look at it.

See how your fingernails are ON THE INSIDE?

Tough to get DNA transfer there.


Most interesting revelation from the trial: "Martin's own DNA was not found in the scrapings from under his nails."

Fact: Martin was never there.
 
2013-09-23 09:12:17 AM

PsiChick: Penman: PsiChick: Even if you were right, guess what?

Kid's still dead. People are still going to be upset. Same as if a police officer shot a child who was in full-blown meltdown and mentally ill. No matter how justified, society mourns dead children. Your point is totally irrelevant.

Well yeah if you think it's sad when anybody at all dies, then I guess that's true.

Most people do think it's a bit sad, yes, but society reserves special emotions for children. Because, you know, if we were hardwired not to care about children,  humans wouldn't exist as a species.


This is what the Zimmerman defenders will never get. Most of us have within ourselves certain biases and, dare I say it, "moral" precepts not taught by any church, religion or parent. One of those is that we tend to find the killing of children abhorrent, and those who kill children even more so. This is one of the things that has made our species grow to the 7 billion it is now.

Unfortunately in some people their fear that black males are so dangerous as to no longer be children (much less human) has screwed their psyches up badly enough that even that hardwiring shorts out, and they are actually able to excuse and even venerate the death of said child at the hands of an adult who took it upon himself to initiate the contact that led to that child's death.

Child killers will never get my sympathy, empathy or support. Even prison inmates don't like child killers. I do hope Zimmerman lives a long life (if he decides not to have a lead eggroll), and I hope during that life he sees the image of Trayvon Martin's face as the bullet ripped through his body, his face as the last breath left his lungs, his face as he stiffened and died on the lawn near his father's house. Every motherf*cking time he closes his eyes, even when he blinks.
 
2013-09-23 09:17:46 AM

s2s2s2: PunGent: there's SOME evidence M was on top of Z

Right. Zimmerman's word, which I'm sure we can safely say means that at no time was he on top. amirite?


Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but Z didn't take the stand, did he?.  I'm talking about the physical evidence of the injuries to the front and back of his head.

PunGent: Your link says "fingernail scrapings" were taken from M.

Now, make a fist.  Look at it.

See how your fingernails are ON THE INSIDE?

Tough to get DNA transfer there.

Most interesting revelation from the trial: "Martin's own DNA was not found in the scrapings from under his nails."

Fact: Martin was never there.


Yeah...not so much a "fact" as more proof that real life doesn't equal CSI.

It's an entertaining show, not reality.
 
2013-09-23 09:35:03 AM

PunGent: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but Z didn't take the stand, did he?.  I'm talking about the physical evidence of the injuries to the front and back of his head.


A small confession, first. 1) I read you wrong. I had it Z on top of M when I posted. 2) It was a joke, anyway, so no real point in my arguing a point I wasn't making. 3) Apologies.

PunGent: Yeah...not so much a "fact" as more proof that real life doesn't equal CSI.


I know, it was a meme from the trial threads. "Wacky facts"

PunGent: It's an entertaining show.


Debatable
 
2013-09-23 10:24:23 AM
If only he'd stayed in the car like he was ordered to...
 
2013-09-23 11:06:50 AM

s2s2s2: PunGent: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but Z didn't take the stand, did he?.  I'm talking about the physical evidence of the injuries to the front and back of his head.

A small confession, first. 1) I read you wrong. I had it Z on top of M when I posted. 2) It was a joke, anyway, so no real point in my arguing a point I wasn't making. 3) Apologies.

PunGent: Yeah...not so much a "fact" as more proof that real life doesn't equal CSI.

I know, it was a meme from the trial threads. "Wacky facts"

PunGent: It's an entertaining show.

Debatable


No worries.  And, yeah, I liked CSI Vegas for awhile, but that was about it.
 
2013-09-23 01:12:59 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman.  Definitely.  His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom.  Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Yeah, it's almost like being tortured by the media for a year and being put on trial on trumped up charges might have a slight effect on your psyche.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have PTSD with all he's been through.


Don't forget the thousands of death threats.
 
2013-09-23 11:26:38 PM

freak7: The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: If only he'd stayed in the car like he was ordered to...

Trololololo


Your humor detector needs to be re-calibrated.
 
2013-09-24 01:10:11 AM

PunGent: MadAzza: Mercutio74: phenn: Well, I'm not going to get into an argument on anymore Zim threads. I will only say that I disagree. I think the laws are correct and they were followed in this case. No, I do not like the idea that a mother lost her son. Never will. It's sad all around.

Personally I think the threshold for lethal self defence should be your life WAS in danger, not you FELT your life was in danger.

OK. Supposing I point a gun at you. You, too, have a gun. You freak out, and shoot and kill me. However, my gun was unloaded.

Haha, joke's on you! You go to prison for 20 years, because your life was not in danger.

And what you "felt" doesn't matter, just like you wanted.

Err, I'm not sure that's correct.   I believe most U.S. jurisdictions use a "reasonable man" standard of self-defense, and it's reasonable to assume the gun pointed at you is loaded, and act according.

/am a lawyer
//not a criminal lawyer
///don't try this at home


Of course it's not correct. My hypothetical situation was based on Mercutio74's hypothetical law, which states that what you feel doesn't matter, only the fact that you were not actually in danger.

Did you read the post??
 
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