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(Talking Points Memo)   GOP effort to defund Obamacare criticised by Bill O'Reilly blasts as 'fanaticism'. Y'RLY   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 55
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NFA
2013-09-22 07:08:31 AM  
25 votes:
FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.
2013-09-22 11:15:05 AM  
5 votes:

SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.


2012 never happened for you, did it.
2013-09-22 08:29:43 AM  
5 votes:

NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.


We. Are. Done.

Next thread
2013-09-22 12:05:45 PM  
4 votes:

Funk Brothers: Wessoman: Funk Brothers: Defunding Obamacare is going to happen. We defunded the light bulb ban from ever taking effect and people have the freedom to still buy 100 watt light bulbs. We can do the same with Obamacare.

Obama needs to step aside and think about his country first instead of his legacy. Defunding Obamacare might be the best chance for Obama to resign as President.

Why would Obama resign as President? Especially when most Americans WANT better health coverage?

The 2012 Election happened. What the American people want is far different than what you see our country being. Deal with it.

Americans want better health coverage, but not from the government and they would rather the company they work for pay it for them. The majority of Americans didn't vote for Obama because of Obamacare, they voted cause the other candidates were terrible and the myth that women would be forced back into the kitchen and in dark alleys.


Actually, many Americans want Single-Payer, a Public Option---So "But not from the government" is actually fud.

And considering what GOP candidates have said and legislated about Rape, Abortion rights, and vaginal ultrasounds, it's hard to "Disprove" that "Myth" you have going there.

And people will take Obama's plan over "Vote for us and we will tell you our healthcare plan later" nonsense.

So, three strikes and you are out in one post? The quality of GOP shills over this issue is lacking. I think even the GOP is giving up on this whole futile effort to defund the Affordable Healthcare Act now.
2013-09-22 09:27:07 AM  
4 votes:
When Bill O'Reilly is the voice of reason, y'all have truly gone off the deep end.

Good luck with that, GOPers.
2013-09-22 03:23:50 PM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: I occasionally watch The Factor to hear the lib talking points from O'Reilly. It's better when Ms. Laura is guest host because she can take like 15 libs to task all by her solo.


Yes.  She lies so fluently.  I commend her on being such a good propagandist.  She certainly knows how to read her low information audience.
2013-09-22 01:36:24 PM  
3 votes:

Mister Peejay: That makes negative sense. The mandatory insurance requirement is to get that demographic INTO the system. Getting them into the system will make the insurance company more money, not less. People who pay but do not get services in return are known as "a big fat profit". And, as pointed out, they weren't going to buy in until they desperately needed healthcare, so the payOUT is still the same, but now the insurance company gets 1-5-10-20 years of big fat profit.


Well, except for the fact that the insurance companies are required to spend 85% of revenues on care.  That leaves precious little for profit, or executive bonuses, or "business trips" to "team building exercises" in Hawaii.  And that's why they're throwing money at the Republicans and the media to try to kill this thing.
2013-09-22 01:35:16 PM  
3 votes:

TomD9938: Now, sure, but after the first of the year, why?

After the first a person can wait until something happens before buying into any plan.

Until then, pay the yearly fee out of any tax refund or add it to the tax liability at tax time.

With a little caution and some luck, a person could go nearly a lifetime without ever needing insurance (particularily if they dont mind paying out of pocket for the occasional minor medical costs).


That's not how insurance works.

And minor medical costs can run into hundreds or thousands of dollars just for a few tests, never mind trips to the emergency room.
2013-09-22 01:05:44 PM  
3 votes:

theknuckler_33: So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?

Because the radicals control the primaries.


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 And that worked out just fine in the General election, as far as I'm concerned.
2013-09-22 12:48:19 PM  
3 votes:

TomD9938: Mister Peejay: The irony is that healthcare would be cheaper.

Not mine, it would appear.

I've gotten a couple of letters from my health insurance provider (Medica) saying, essentially, "brace yourself".

In both they cite the requirement to insure people who couldnt be bothered to get coverage until something went horrily wrong.

In retrospect, it looks like those folks made the right call.


That makes negative sense.  The mandatory insurance requirement is to get that demographic INTO the system.  Getting them into the system will make the insurance company more money, not less.  People who pay but do not get services in return are known as "a big fat profit".  And, as pointed out, they weren't going to buy in until they desperately needed healthcare, so the payOUT is still the same, but now the insurance company gets 1-5-10-20 years of big fat profit.

/still would prefer nationalized healthcare, but this shiat sandwich has less turd on it than the old system
2013-09-22 11:30:50 AM  
3 votes:

SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.


Absolutely correct. Similarly, if Obamacare is a success, the Democrats get sole credit.
2013-09-22 11:26:46 AM  
3 votes:

clancifer: NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.

Well said.  I just have to wonder if, and at what point, the Tea Partiers will realize they are being used.  Are they simply not smart enough? Or perhaps too jaded to ever figure it out?


Once we are emotionally invested in a conclusion then we are usually blind to conflicting evidence and intelligence just makes us better at rationalization.

this is true for all people and all debates, I watch myself for this constantly in my work.

The day a person puts on a costume and rages in the street is a day when, right or wrong, they are beyond changing their minds based on mere evidence and facts.
2013-09-22 11:24:17 AM  
3 votes:
Who gives a shiat what this guy thinks?  He's a complete asshole who likes to harass women over the phone while jerking off and farking himself up the ass with a vibrator.
That he's seen as less than a completely rage-fueled narcissistic misogynistic utter failure as a human being is beyond me.
If Bill O'Reilly said the day after Monday is Tuesday, I'd check my farking calendar.
2013-09-22 11:17:27 AM  
3 votes:
SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it. el chip is bored again
2013-09-22 11:11:42 AM  
3 votes:

NFA: Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.


While that's how it got started, the continuation seems more from this particular bit of Spencerian Social Darwinism having been adopted by people prone to quasi-religious fanaticism. Even if the Kochs had a "Road to Damascus" moment and started throwing their money entirely to supporting it, they wouldn't be able to derail the GOP insanity until at least after the 2014 midterms, and more likely not before the 2016 presidential election is over.
Even by then, they might only be able to fission the GOP.
2013-09-22 03:46:08 PM  
2 votes:

TomD9938: After the first a person can wait until something happens before buying into any plan.


You really don't understand how insurance works do you?

If your house is on fire, then sure, an insurance company will be happy to sell you a policy.  Since the only thing it'll cover is the already burned ashes you'll probably get a very reasonable price.

Similarly, you can wait until you're in the ER with a heart attack to buy health insurance.  It just won't cover the ambulance ride, the emergency surgery, the initial hospital stay, or anything else until your paperwork gets through someone's system and your coverage actually starts.
2013-09-22 01:53:09 PM  
2 votes:

TomD9938: After the first a person can wait until something happens before buying into any plan.


Nope.  Doesn't work that way.  Like most health insurance, there is an open enrollment period.  If you avoid getting health insurance, you can't simply sign up for it when you get sick.  You'll have to wait until the next open enrollment period before getting insurance.  After the initial open enrollment period which starts October 1st and ends March 31, 2014, the next open enrollment period is October 15th and ends December 7th.  Insurance coverage then begins January 1st of the following year.  So, unless you can time getting sick on December 7th, enroll the same day, and have something that can wait to be treated until January 1st, you're screwed.
2013-09-22 01:14:40 PM  
2 votes:

TomD9938: I think they know that healthy young people will opt to pay the yearly fine (at a fraction of what coverage would cost).


Dunno.  Most young people I know are scared to death at the idea of not having health insurance.
2013-09-22 01:05:08 PM  
2 votes:
In addition to wide-spread ignorance about Obamacare (thanks for keeping us infromed, FOX!), about 10-20% of those who oppose Obamacare think it is not liberal enough.

This desperate attempt to sink Obamacare by any means necessary (fear tactics,outright lies, holding the debt ceiling hostage) is because the opponents know that when people start looking into the options, they're going to like it.
2013-09-22 11:47:36 AM  
2 votes:

SilentStrider: Does this mean that Bill is now conspiring against the GOP, and therefore America?


I thought he got added during Superstorm Sandy when Sarah Palin was on his show.  She went from criticizing Obama for not doing more to criticizing him for not doing enough in the same sentence, and Bill called her out on it.  It was actually pretty awesome.  There were cries of RINO directed at him for like a week after that.
2013-09-22 11:35:04 AM  
2 votes:
"It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because, as my Republican family members have assured me, Americans just haven't gotten a chance to hear what American conservatives think. Literally all media that isn't Fox News/talk radio/right wing blogs are tightly controlled liberal propaganda which is why people generally believe that freedom and prosperity are evil and only dream of living a life of poverty.

Republicans need to send a message, and if they keep repeating the same message louder and louder over and over again Americans can't ignore it for much longer. Once they finally get to hear Republicans tell them we need to cut government, the Dems will never win the presidency again.

Besides, think of how much freer you'd be if you had no healthcare. It's an argument that can't lose.
2013-09-22 11:34:34 AM  
2 votes:

raerae1980: SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.

Oh HI skinnyhead.   Haven't seen you in a while.   Were you ill?  On vacation?  Anyway, it's good to see you're back.  You should see some of these new trolls who have tried to take your place.  They're lame.   Nothing compared to you.   Like I said, it's good to see you're back.


Ironically enough, the voices and delusions of persecution are covered as pre-existing conditions under the Affordable Care Act

/waves to the alt known as skinnyhead
2013-09-22 11:26:56 AM  
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.


Oh HI skinnyhead.   Haven't seen you in a while.   Were you ill?  On vacation?  Anyway, it's good to see you're back.  You should see some of these new trolls who have tried to take your place.  They're lame.   Nothing compared to you.   Like I said, it's good to see you're back.
2013-09-22 10:02:32 AM  
2 votes:

johnryan51: Racism. I think they'll lose some steam when the dems put forth a white person.


Unless it's someone like Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren.
2013-09-22 09:55:56 AM  
2 votes:
The push to defund the national health care law has created a rift between Republicans in Congress. The House voted 230-189 Friday morning to defund Obamacare

Wow. That's a lot of "fanatics." There's 233 Republicans in the House, which means...hmmm...
2013-09-22 09:49:09 AM  
2 votes:

b2theory: NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.

If businesses were willing to go to such extremes to avoid paying for insurance we would have nationalized healthcare (which would put them on an equal footing with most their international competition)


No, this  way they don't have to pay for insurance or the taxes that pay for single-payer healthcare.
2013-09-22 09:49:58 PM  
1 votes:
The plan to "defund Obamacare" is not a Tea Party ploy. It is Heritage Foundation, the group that first came up with Obamacare.

Here, let me quote from the Heritage document itself:

"Defunding Obamacare means attaching a legislative rider to a "must pass" bill (debt limit, annual spending bill, etc.) that prohibits any funds from being spent on any activities to implement or enforce Obamacare."

"Won't adding a provision to defund Obamacare to a "must pass" appropriations bill lead to a government shutdown? Obviously, this will set up a major political confrontation with President Obama."

This is not Tea Party fringe nonsense, this is a full-blown attempt by main-stream Republicans to destroy the functioning of the federal government. There is nothing responsible in their politics.
2013-09-22 05:54:53 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.

Care to elucidate how it's a trainwreck or are you going to keep playing the role of "Derpy the Wonder Shill" who spouts nonsense without one iota of proof to back it up?

A senior Democratic senator who helped write President Barack Obama's health care law stunned administration officials Wednesday, saying openly he thinks it's headed for a "train wreck."


Did you actually read the link you posted? Basically, it states that people like you are lying liars and the reason the Open Enrollment is being delayed.
2013-09-22 03:52:18 PM  
1 votes:

Karac: TomD9938: After the first a person can wait until something happens before buying into any plan.

You really don't understand how insurance works do you?

If your house is on fire, then sure, an insurance company will be happy to sell you a policy.  Since the only thing it'll cover is the already burned ashes you'll probably get a very reasonable price.

Similarly, you can wait until you're in the ER with a heart attack to buy health insurance.  It just won't cover the ambulance ride, the emergency surgery, the initial hospital stay, or anything else until your paperwork gets through someone's system and your coverage actually starts.


Plus with health insurance you need to wait till the open enrollment period which could be almost 10 months away. For even a "minor" medical issue, you could be in full cardiac arrest from just the ER bill.
2013-09-22 03:48:43 PM  
1 votes:

Doc Lee: And, of course, Pelosi's comment rings true today as much as it rang true when she said it, "We have to pass the bill in order for you to see what's in it away from the fog of controversy." For the GOP, the fog is still very thick, and Skinnyhead's comment further emphasizes that the GOP is unable to see through the fog.


Skinnyhead can't see through the fog because it's actually a giant cloud of smoke being blown out his own ass.
2013-09-22 03:48:05 PM  
1 votes:

HighOnCraic: ItchyMcDoogle: Well the GOP's message is now Health care kills and Guns save lives.

Oh, come on.  Am I the only one here who's used a rifle to shoot a possibly cancerous mole off of my back?


Yes.  When I did it it didn't so much come off as incinerate.

You should really shoot those sooner.  Those black marks on your skin are stealing your precious bodily fluids and living on the welfare of your body without contributing anything.  Those cells just don't have jobs.  Hell, Ive heard that they can grow huge.  Like if you get one on your leg it can become the size of a c antelope!  You should really stand your ground against them.

Not that I have anything against them.  I got several on me myself.  But they're just generally worthless.
2013-09-22 02:59:37 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.

Care to elucidate how it's a trainwreck or are you going to keep playing the role of "Derpy the Wonder Shill" who spouts nonsense without one iota of proof to back it up?

A senior Democratic senator who helped write President Barack Obama's health care law stunned administration officials Wednesday, saying openly he thinks it's headed for a "train wreck."


This is how we know that the Republicans have lost the battle.  They resort to lying and taking things out of context.  They are unable to make a rational argument against the health care law so they resort to this repeated propaganda.  Baucus explicitly says that the lack of advertisement about the law and the fact that many people don't know what the law entails (largely because of GOP sponsored propaganda...see Kentucky State Fair as an example) will lead to problems when open enrollment begins on October 1st as people won't know what to do.  Coupled with red state governors actively limiting public knowledge about the health care plan, he's correct.  There will be a lot of low information individuals out there.  This is one reason why the initial open enrollment period is an extended period of time.  And, of course, Pelosi's comment rings true today as much as it rang true when she said it, "We have to pass the bill in order for you to see what's in it away from the fog of controversy."  For the GOP, the fog is still very thick, and Skinnyhead's comment further emphasizes that the GOP is unable to see through the fog.
2013-09-22 02:44:42 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.

Care to elucidate how it's a trainwreck or are you going to keep playing the role of "Derpy the Wonder Shill" who spouts nonsense without one iota of proof to back it up?

A senior Democratic senator who helped write President Barack Obama's health care law stunned administration officials Wednesday, saying openly he thinks it's headed for a "train wreck."


That isn't proof.  That is one guy.

Your batting average (now and forever):  0.000
2013-09-22 02:14:40 PM  
1 votes:

TomD9938: I was referring to setting broken bones, physicals, lancing boils, etc.

If you find yourself in the ER or requiring expensive and elaborate testing, the "little luck" I mentioned has run out.  But then, go ahead and buy into a plan.

Im 44 and have been blessed with good health.

All these years, Id have been a perfect "pay the fine" candidate, and I'd have come out smelling like a rose to this point.


Under that logic, never use your seat belt.
2013-09-22 02:03:27 PM  
1 votes:

TomD9938: sdd2000:  Do you understand the open enrollment period limitations?

Looks like a narrow 6 month window, from what I see.


That's the initial open enrollment period only.  Subsequent enrollment periods are less than 2 months (1 month and 22 days).  Again, with insurance coverage not starting until January 1st.
2013-09-22 01:33:15 PM  
1 votes:

Funk Brothers: Defunding Obamacare is going to happen. We defunded the light bulb ban from ever taking effect and people have the freedom to still buy 100 watt light bulbs. We can do the same with Obamacare.

Obama needs to step aside and think about his country first instead of his legacy. Defunding Obamacare might be the best chance for Obama to resign as President.


Smeggy Smurf: It's no more fanatical than the cries of racism every time a white guy opposes something Fartbongo does.  He could be gassing Jews by the millions and if somebody spoke up about it...  RACIST!


Look at them.  Look at them and laugh.
2013-09-22 01:15:43 PM  
1 votes:

enderthexenocide: he's not actually saying obamacare is a good thing.  he's just saying "well we can't possibly defund it so let's pick a fight we can win."  its reverse psychology to make the right wingers fight even harder because now they feel like they are the underdog, like they are david fighting against obama's goliath or something.  it's like how many liberals say things like "we can't possibly pass gun control because the gun lobby is too powerful," and it only makes the gun control people want to fight harder.


You sound like you don't pay much attention in the real world to gun legislation.
2013-09-22 01:07:30 PM  
1 votes:
Well the GOP's message is now Health care kills and Guns save lives.
2013-09-22 12:53:17 PM  
1 votes:
O'Reilly is a condescending arse, but he's not an idiot. He knows when a battle is pointless and when to distance himself from it. He's then able to leverage that distance to try to portray himself as a centrist to the people who haven't figured out what he's about.

Most of the pundits on the right are just playing fiddle to an easy audience that wants to hear a familiar tune. But O'Reilly is the most dangerous of the bunch because he really believes that the tunes he's playing are not just what everyone  wants to hear, but that anyone who doesn't like them is a moral failure.
2013-09-22 12:43:38 PM  
1 votes:
he's not actually saying obamacare is a good thing.  he's just saying "well we can't possibly defund it so let's pick a fight we can win."  its reverse psychology to make the right wingers fight even harder because now they feel like they are the underdog, like they are david fighting against obama's goliath or something.  it's like how many liberals say things like "we can't possibly pass gun control because the gun lobby is too powerful," and it only makes the gun control people want to fight harder.
2013-09-22 12:40:10 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.


How does the 2012 presidential election fit into your fantasy?
2013-09-22 12:15:34 PM  
1 votes:
I'm sure Mr. O'Reilly realizes that the best chance for defunding (or outright repeal) lies with the GOP taking the White House in 2016, and that continued posturing by the House of Representatives on the issue can be counter-productive.
2013-09-22 12:14:46 PM  
1 votes:
I recall when Bill O was THE hardcore right wing extremist wacko. Without changing, he has become an occasional light in the pit of darkness that is the conservative movement in America. How sad.
2013-09-22 11:59:11 AM  
1 votes:

HighOnCraic: Funk Brothers: Defunding Obamacare is going to happen. We defunded the light bulb ban from ever taking effect and people have the freedom to still buy 100 watt light bulbs. We can do the same with Obamacare.

Obama needs to step aside and think about his country first instead of his legacy. Defunding Obamacare might be the best chance for Obama to resign as President.

Wait, what?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/energy-efficient/wh at -you-need-to-know-about-the-lightbulb-law-14789203

Troll subtler, not dumber.


"LED bulbs are a rapidly emerging substitute for incandescents. These can last up to 25 years and are at least 75 percent more efficient than current incandescent bulbs. And while these bulbs cost more at the moment than CFLs and high-efficiency incandescents (approximately $10 to $30 per bulb), their price is expected to drop quickly as technology improves and the supply and use of the bulbs increase."

I saw LED bulbs at Costco last weekend and they were $6 a piece and a 3-pack for, I think, $15.
2013-09-22 11:58:57 AM  
1 votes:

CorporatePerson: Literally all media that isn't Fox News/talk radio/right wing blogs are tightly controlled liberal propaganda which is why people generally believe that freedom and prosperity are evil and only dream of living a life of poverty.


This is what Republicans actually believe.
2013-09-22 11:55:34 AM  
1 votes:

clancifer: Well said. I just have to wonder if, and at what point, the Tea Partiers will realize they are being used. Are they simply not smart enough? Or perhaps too jaded to ever figure it out?


I don't think they are jaded; I think they're scared.  They have been fed fear for years -think about the real conservative talking heads and their theories - the real crazy stuff like death panels and FEMA camps.  All under control of an illegitimate President who is a Kenyan/Muslim/Socialist/Communist/etc. They're terrified, and people do not tend to think clearly when they're scared.
2013-09-22 11:46:11 AM  
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Funk Brothers: Defunding Obamacare is going to happen. We defunded the light bulb ban from ever taking effect and people have the freedom to still buy 100 watt light bulbs. We can do the same with Obamacare.

Obama needs to step aside and think about his country first instead of his legacy. Defunding Obamacare might be the best chance for Obama to resign as President.

I like skinnyhead el chip better.

2013-09-22 11:43:20 AM  
1 votes:

Funk Brothers: Defunding Obamacare is going to happen. We defunded the light bulb ban from ever taking effect and people have the freedom to still buy 100 watt light bulbs. We can do the same with Obamacare.

Obama needs to step aside and think about his country first instead of his legacy. Defunding Obamacare might be the best chance for Obama to resign as President.


Why would Obama resign as President? Especially when most Americans WANT better health coverage?

The 2012 Election happened. What the American people want is far different than what you see our country being. Deal with it.
2013-09-22 11:42:45 AM  
1 votes:

Fantasta Potamus: That's why as crazy as it sounds, Bill is the voice of reason on Fox News.


I'm still mildly convinced that Bill is the original Colbert. When you see him on anything but his show, he can be very rational. Bill on Bill's show vs Bill elsewhere can be like two entirely different people.
2013-09-22 11:24:00 AM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: Whether Republicans succeed in their effort to defund Obamacare or not, the effort is worthwhile because it shows voters once again just exactly who is responsible for the coming trainwreck that is Obamacare.  It shows again that Democrats, in their fanatical support for Obamacare, are solely to blame for it.


Oh, look. The voice of stupidity is here.
2013-09-22 10:52:54 AM  
1 votes:

NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.


Money goes into campaign coffers, bad legislation comes out.  You can't explain that.
2013-09-22 10:04:50 AM  
1 votes:
Does this mean that Bill is now conspiring against the GOP, and therefore America?
2013-09-22 09:56:31 AM  
1 votes:

clancifer: NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.

Well said.  I just have to wonder if, and at what point, the Tea Partiers will realize they are being used.  Are they simply not smart enough? Or perhaps too jaded to ever figure it out?


Racism. I think they'll lose some steam when the dems put forth a white person.
2013-09-22 09:10:23 AM  
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NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.


If businesses were willing to go to such extremes to avoid paying for insurance we would have nationalized healthcare (which would put them on an equal footing with most their international competition)
2013-09-22 09:10:09 AM  
1 votes:

NFA: FTA:"There's no way Obamacare is going to be defunded," O'Reilly said. "It's not gonna happen. So why bother alienating independent americans by embracing a futile exercise?"

Because this is a politically motivated initiative created by a bunch of billionaires to cleanse corporations of any responsibly to provide decent wages, safe work conditions, to allow the dumping of toxic waste into the environment, to avoid all taxation or provide health care for their employees.

The Koch brothers have literally spent 100's of millions of dollars to buy the politicians who are pushing for the repeat of or defunding of national healthcare.


Well said.  I just have to wonder if, and at what point, the Tea Partiers will realize they are being used.  Are they simply not smart enough? Or perhaps too jaded to ever figure it out?
 
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