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2013-09-22 10:41:01 AM  
16 votes:

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro
2013-09-22 11:02:03 AM  
9 votes:

Ima4nic8or: I am not sympathetic to these folks at all.


That's because you  don't have the slightest idea what it's like to be poor.  Well, that and your complete lack of empathy.  Go enjoy your bitterness.
2013-09-22 10:59:30 AM  
8 votes:

Ima4nic8or: Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week

$500/week is hardly a deal.  They clearly are guilty of mismanaging the free money they are given if they chose to spend that on a hotel room.  My mortgage on a 4bd 2 bath house in CA is only $1400/month.  Throw in taxes, garbage service and such and its probably close to their 2k/month but at least its god some space, is appropriate for children and actually intended for long term residence.


Where in the article does it state they are paying with "free money," plenty of members of the working poor also have difficulty coming up with the money and credit for an apartment. In fact if they were connected to services they would probably be in Section 8.
2013-09-22 10:40:51 AM  
7 votes:

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


Because an apartment requires a down payment and a credit check, and if you are really poor living day to day then at no time do you have the money to move into an apartment. Especially if you are paying exurbanite hotel room fees.
2013-09-22 11:33:55 AM  
6 votes:

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


Because you are poor.

It costs a lot to be poor.
2013-09-22 11:22:19 AM  
6 votes:
urbanexotic:
It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.

About half of Americans can't come up with $2,000 within thirty days.  If you're earning poverty wages and get very short notice to move out and find a new place, you're screwed.  If half of all Americans can't come up with the equivalent of a security deposit + rent within a thirty day window, then imagine how tough it must be for the working poor.

I'm surprised more people aren't living in storage units and long-term hotels.
2013-09-22 11:13:52 AM  
6 votes:
Interesting. I've lived in 4 different apartments in my life and every single one of them, the security deposit was one month's rent. And I think all of them (definitely 3) required last month's rent too. So, yea, I needed three months rent to move in.

I suspect rental fees might be determined based on state laws. Most of the places I rented in Michigan asked for first month's rent and a security deposit equal to a month's rent. I've been in Dallas for a few years now, and the 3 places we've rented so far have each asked for first month's rent and a $150 security deposit (which we've been able to waive each time because my husband works at the local large university).

It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.
2013-09-22 11:09:04 AM  
6 votes:

theknuckler_33: wingnut396: Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.

This is is $150 a farking WEEK.  $600/month for room, utilities, wifi, pool, free local phone and maid service (one a week I would guess).  That sounds like a farking deal to me.

http://homesuitehome.com/specials-extendedstay.php

You are living in a hotel room. I mean, yea, that's a cheap hotel room, but think about LIVING in a hotel room. Check out the photo gallery. It looked like they have a fridge and a microwave... but I didn't see a stove.


Not to pick on you guys specifically, but this conversation reminds me of the thread we had a month or so back about those guys living in a NYC 'storage' unit. With all the trash and bugs and stuff everyone was saying "How can they live like that?" (sound familiar?) And the answer was "It's better than living homeless on the streets." This is just the next step up. The storage unit was better than nothing, and the motel room is better than the storage unit. It isn't pleasant to think about, but people do what they have to do in order to survive.

/the only dick move that I see here is kicking out that lady and girl on short notice
//OMG a CHILDS was at TEH POOLZ!!!! P.A.N.I.C.!!!
2013-09-22 10:35:12 AM  
6 votes:
2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper
2013-09-22 02:25:52 PM  
5 votes:
I've known 3 different people who've had to live in motels.

The first one was a young girl who worked at a Burger King while going to college. She couldn't get together enough money to move into an apartment.

The second person was my Aunt. She had a husband who was supporting her and her kid. They broke up, the husband moved out..... and she got evicted from the house they were renting because she couldn't pay for it. After that, she got a job, but couldn't find an apartment to rent to her because she had an eviction in her renter's history.

The third person is a current co-worker of mine. She's a hard worker, very responsible and reliable, and she spends nearly all of her free time helping out people who are trying to get off of drugs. She's very proud of the fact that she's been clean herself for almost 4 years.... She also has several drug felonies that still come up on a background check. She makes good money..... but has to live in a motel.

None of these people qualified for welfare. If they did, the state would've helped them find permanent housing.
2013-09-22 10:33:06 AM  
5 votes:
It's their hotel, they make the rules. Sorry boutcha.
2013-09-22 10:31:59 AM  
5 votes:

RodneyToady: That's the legal aspect.  From an interpersonal standpoint, I'd probably give those with kids in school until the end of the school year to move, if it's feasible.


It would be feasible and kind and understanding but this is Florida so, it's not going to happen.
2013-09-22 10:54:31 AM  
4 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper


I imagine these hotel-cum-apartments are attractive options for those people who can't seem to scrounge up a depost plus first and last month's rent, not to mention deposits on variuos utilities.  They pay for one month up front and immediately have a shelter, electricity, water, gas, cable, etc.
2013-09-22 02:27:35 PM  
3 votes:

Fade2black: I didn't state anywhere about being born on 3rd base.


Except for the trust fund you earned through years and years of hard work, striving to be born to a family that gave you a trust fund.

Fade2black: You completely gloss over the point I made about alot of poor people are awful with money.


Glossed over? No, we noticed your sneering dismissal of the way poor people mismanage the trust funds that poor people so frequently give to their grandkids.
2013-09-22 02:20:24 PM  
3 votes:

Cranky McOldfart: That's because you  don't have the slightest idea what it's like to be poor.  Well, that and your complete lack of empathy.  Go enjoy your bitterness.


Absolutely amazing how awful and totally clueless some people can be.  I'd like to see them volunteer their financial wisdom at a local shelter or kitchen, and see the look on the audience faces while they blather on about how they should get a real house with a mortgage and totally max out their matched contribution to their company's 401k plan, and how the beater they're driving should be replaced by a more reliable car since interest rates are low and they'll save a lot on maintenance.

Everybody should live poor for at least a week.  It's farking terrifying not knowing how you will eat tomorrow, or where you will live next week.  Thankfully I never had to do it with a kid, or while sick.
kth
2013-09-22 01:05:22 PM  
3 votes:
Moving is expensive. We moved to a college town when my husband got a job as a professor. We're not in a position to buy a house because mid-life career changes (I started my own law firm, he went to grad school) wiped out our savings, so we had to rent.  It cost us maybe $5k to move 65 miles if you include first month rent, deposit (including pet and mower), utilities, moving expenses. We had to borrow money from my parents, and we're both gainfully employed.
2013-09-22 12:38:19 PM  
3 votes:
I read some replies, not all, but here is my story.  About 2 years ago I had a house I was renting and we received notice that it was in the way of construction so we had to leave.  I searched and searched tons of apts in my kid's school district and none were available on such short notice (none that I really wanted to move in, I do value my child and wanted to avoid drug dens and bed bugs), but there was an extended stay hotel literally in the backyard of her school.  We opted that, thinking well a few weeks here and we will find a place.  Not so.  Ten months later I was still there, no one would rent to me because that was the address I put down and it was "assumed" I was on welfare (not so, I work full time and my hubby owns his own business that he was just starting up).  The rent each week was 190.00, and truthfully, after all that time, it was hard to save enough money up for first and last month deposit plus rent.  It sucks you in.  Thankfully, family came through and we have a house now, a permanent one.  I will never live like that again,  it is alot harder than you may think and the mindset that you must be on welfare, lazy, don't care where you live, and you are a total loser is exhausting to fight against.
2013-09-22 11:39:04 AM  
3 votes:

picturescrazy: Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.

Yeah, better to let people starve out on the street.


It's like I said in another thread -- liberals are worried that there's someone out there who needs help but isn't getting it, while conservatives are worried that there's someone out there who is getting help but doesn't DESERVE it.

This is why they hate the fact that single moms can get food stamps but don't even bat an eyelid at oil companies getting welfare or corporate farms getting paid to not grow food.
2013-09-22 11:35:01 AM  
3 votes:
Gentoolive:

WelfareWalmart does nothing more than keep people on welfare.

FTFY
2013-09-22 11:06:50 AM  
3 votes:

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


Yeah, better to let people starve out on the street.
2013-09-22 11:05:09 AM  
3 votes:

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


derp
2013-09-22 11:02:04 AM  
3 votes:

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


Interesting. I've lived in 4 different apartments in my life and every single one of them, the security deposit was one month's rent. And I think all of them (definitely 3) required last month's rent too. So, yea, I needed three months rent to move in.
2013-09-22 10:59:16 AM  
3 votes:

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


In SoCal, we paid $4,400 to move into an apartment.  When we moved to Georgia, we only had to fork over $1,700 to get into a place.  Neither of those values includes utility deposits (which we didn't have to pay because we have immaculate credit).
2013-09-22 10:57:53 AM  
3 votes:

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


Those are places with a credit check, without a credit check gets you first last and a deposit equal to one months rent.
2013-09-22 10:46:26 AM  
3 votes:

Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.


This is is $150 a farking WEEK.  $600/month for room, utilities, wifi, pool, free local phone and maid service (one a week I would guess).  That sounds like a farking deal to me.

http://homesuitehome.com/specials-extendedstay.php
2013-09-22 10:41:51 AM  
3 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper


Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?


The ones around here are $500 a week.
2013-09-22 10:37:51 AM  
3 votes:
Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.
2013-09-22 09:55:36 AM  
3 votes:
The family said the motel sent them and other families a letter saying they didn't want children living there anymore because it plans to convert into a 55+ community.

They're not being kicked out for an arbitrary reason.  There's a carve-out in discrimination law for retirement communities.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like there's a weird area when it comes to living in a motel.  It's not a real apartment, but if you're there for months on end, it's not a short stay, either.

That's the legal aspect.  From an interpersonal standpoint, I'd probably give those with kids in school until the end of the school year to move, if it's feasible.
2013-09-23 11:01:52 AM  
2 votes:

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


I know google is hard, but 30 seconds would have revealed that Home Suite Home offers rates as low as $149 a week.  $600 is not an unreasonably high amount to pay, especially if it gets you into a better school district.
2013-09-22 03:57:27 PM  
2 votes:

thenumber5: the people that live full time in these place are the ones who make too much for such "Safety Nets" but for what ever reason cant live in a normal apartment building/duplex/home.


The safety nets are full. There is a four year waiting list for section 8 housing in my city. They are just now processing applications filed in 2008. In LA the wait can be up to ten years.
2013-09-22 03:40:07 PM  
2 votes:

SCUBA_Archer: The hotel might not have a kitchen for making 3 squares a day but it definitely has a bed for making more increases to that monthly check.


in what world do you live that an Extended Stay Hotel falls under HUD housing

the people that live full time in these place are the ones who make too much for such "Safety Nets" but for what ever reason cant live in a normal apartment building/duplex/home.
2013-09-22 03:08:52 PM  
2 votes:
There are two kinds of extended stay hotels.

There are the nice ones that cater to business people and temporary workers. They're set up more like condos than a hotel room and are what most people here are describing.

The second kind are motels on their way down that are just looking to collect some kind of income. I'm an evidence tech and I get called to these places all the time. Sometimes they used to be reputable hotels. I've been to some that look like they would have been luxurious conference centers back in the 1980s, but now they're outdated and have been allowed to slide into disrepair. It's like walking into a time warp. The TVs are still 1980s tube models, if they work at all. The shag carpet is worn thin and stained. None of the bedding matches and the sheets are yellowed and ragged. Even if it's a no-smoking room, the ceiling and walls are yellowed like old newspaper. All the furniture is chipped and dented. The bathroom tile has black grout - oops, nope, mildew and god knows what. These places don't have regular maid service and haven't offered it for decades.

Sometimes, these motels still bear reputable-sounding names. That gets ugly for travelers who inadvertently book their vacations and don't know what they're getting into until they arrive. <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g37209-d582205-Reviews- Rodeway _Inn-Indianapolis_Indiana.html ">Here is a great example of what they might find.</a>

Most of them near me advertise rates of $129 a week or less. Considering that includes water, power, heat/AC, and basic cable, it's a pretty good deal with base rent starts around $500 a month not including any utilities. There are also no deposits or background/credit checks. A lot of convicted sex offenders end up in these motels because the combination of being legally restricted from living in certain areas and limited income doesn't leave them many options. Ditto with other types of felons who are restricted from living in subsidized housing because of their records. Shelters are over capacity and most can't house children with their parents, so there are lots of single women with kids staying in motels.

These are some of the most depressing places I walk into. I understand why a motel might want to avoid that fate, but it's also easy to see how people in such bad situations end up in them with no other place to go.
2013-09-22 02:48:11 PM  
2 votes:

ELKAY: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

Because an apartment requires a down payment and a credit check, and if you are really poor living day to day then at no time do you have the money to move into an apartment. Especially if you are paying exurbanite hotel room fees.


THIS. It's expensive to be poor. A little hand up at the right time breaks the cycle for some of us.

*remembers the Bad Old Days*
2013-09-22 01:59:12 PM  
2 votes:
There are ones around here for about $200 a week.  That works out to about $800 a month. This include electric, gas, water, sewer, trash, cable, and internet.  When you include all the extra it is not bad use of money.

It can be very hard to rent if you have bad credit or have a police record of any kind.
2013-09-22 01:27:02 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.


Agreed.  The very definition of being born on third base, and thinking he hit a triple.
2013-09-22 01:24:29 PM  
2 votes:

Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.


Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.
2013-09-22 12:42:35 PM  
2 votes:

theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?


It's the way that property taxes are set up in the state. Out-of-state property owners pay the most tax. Your average, non-senior, resident gets a 'homestead' exemption. A senior gets a 'homestead' exemption and a 'senior' exemption. A senior living in a 55+ community gets 'homestead' + 'senior' + 'NO SCHOOL TAX' exemptions. As a comparison (with numbers completely pulled from my ass) a house that is in a normal neighborhood and owned by an out-of-stater might have a total tax burden of $5000 while an identical house in a 55+ community lived in by a senior may only have a $600 total tax burden.
2013-09-22 12:12:46 PM  
2 votes:

fozziewazzi: Seniors don't so much want to live with other seniors than not wanting to live around other people's kids.


I don't like kids either but the day I get so crotchety about it that I have to live in a separate community of other crotchety people is the day I wish I had died young in a tragic blimp accident rather than grow that old.
2013-09-22 12:07:30 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.


They're profitable.  You'll get a loss less wear/tear on the apartment and fixtures when you've got senior citizen renters.

Seniors don't so much want to live with other seniors than not wanting to live around other people's kids.
2013-09-22 12:03:21 PM  
2 votes:

buzzcut73: Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.

Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.


It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.
2013-09-22 12:01:36 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.


everybody drives 15mph under the speed limit, nobody plays any of that damned rap music and canasta Tuesdays at the community center.
2013-09-22 11:52:37 AM  
2 votes:

Gentoolive: Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


Welfare keeps people alive as they look for a job or a better one.
2013-09-22 11:45:33 AM  
2 votes:
sendtodave:
It costs a lot to be poor.

This bears repeating
2013-09-22 11:42:29 AM  
2 votes:

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


First and last months rent is common in low rent buildings especially for tenants who can't pass a credit check.
2013-09-22 11:33:58 AM  
2 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: Gentoolive: It's their hotel, they make the rules. Sorry boutcha.

This


Keep licking them boots, slave...
2013-09-22 11:16:39 AM  
2 votes:

DigitalCoffee: theknuckler_33: You are living in a hotel room. I mean, yea, that's a cheap hotel room, but think about LIVING in a hotel room. Check out the photo gallery. It looked like they have a fridge and a microwave... but I didn't see a stove.

Not to pick on you guys specifically, but this conversation reminds me of the thread we had a month or so back about those guys living in a NYC 'storage' unit. With all the trash and bugs and stuff everyone was saying "How can they live like that?" (sound familiar?) And the answer was "It's better than living homeless on the streets." This is just the next step up. The storage unit was better than nothing, and the motel room is better than the storage unit. It isn't pleasant to think about, but people do what they have to do in order to survive.


Oh, I agree 100%. My post was really just refuting the idea that living in the motel was a 'deal' as if it is better than a regular apartment or something. Hell, even the studio apartment my brother had years ago had a full kitchen even if it was just 'against that wall over there'. I don't see anyone getting by in a regular apartment 'down-sizing' to a motel room as a way of saving money.

/the only dick move that I see here is kicking out that lady and girl on short notice
//OMG a CHILDS was at TEH POOLZ!!!! P.A.N.I.C.!!!


I'm sure it is a liability issue in our litigious society. I'm guessing they don't have a lifeguard.
2013-09-22 10:43:03 AM  
2 votes:

skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro


Really, what a douchebag.
2013-09-23 12:13:18 AM  
1 votes:

Fade2black: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Mugato: Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.

Agreed.  The very definition of being born on third base, and thinking he hit a triple.

I didn't state anywhere about being born on 3rd base.


...said the guy who stands to inherit $150,000.00.
2013-09-22 03:36:05 PM  
1 votes:

schemy: Katolu: had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Wait, dude, what? Where are you located? I ain't rich but I can help a Farker out.

THIS


I'm in New Mexico. I'll be fine. Just have to save up for a couple more weeks from my job at Wally World so I can move into a new place.
2013-09-22 02:36:51 PM  
1 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper


Apartment requires first and last month's rent plus a "damage deposit" that you don't get back no matter what the condition of the apartment is.  Trailer requires that you find someone willing to lend you money.
2013-09-22 02:34:49 PM  
1 votes:

starlost: there is a extended stay hotel next to the high school in this town. i'm their often because i walk around a track they have. anyway, a 2 minute walk away from the hotel is a gas station and i see a steady parade of people walking to the gas station from the hotel and bringing back expensive junk food. a 10 minute walk in the other direction is a regular supermarket with good prices but i hardly ever see anyone walking to it.  the money these people are wasting and the crap they are feeding their kids gives me a sad.


Most people in "Extended Stay Hotels" are business/construction people in an area for for a project, and are working off an expense account
2013-09-22 01:47:06 PM  
1 votes:
there is a extended stay hotel next to the high school in this town. i'm their often because i walk around a track they have. anyway, a 2 minute walk away from the hotel is a gas station and i see a steady parade of people walking to the gas station from the hotel and bringing back expensive junk food. a 10 minute walk in the other direction is a regular supermarket with good prices but i hardly ever see anyone walking to it.  the money these people are wasting and the crap they are feeding their kids gives me a sad.
2013-09-22 01:25:43 PM  
1 votes:

TheEvilOne23: Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.


Yes, there are. Hard times generation: Homeless kids
2013-09-22 01:06:07 PM  
1 votes:

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


We've stayed at places like this in FL on vacation, and I've been put up in these by companies I have worked for. They are actually set up just like apartments or condos with full kitchens, bathrooms, etc. A lot of the hotels in Orlando area that cater to people here for a week are like this, much to the chagrin of the local restaurant industry who wants every family eating every meal in their restaurants. In a lot of these places, they are waaay nicer than whatever hovel they live in back home.
2013-09-22 01:02:17 PM  
1 votes:
Just another example on how the aging Boomer generation is screwing over every generation the came after them.
2013-09-22 12:44:54 PM  
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

First and last months rent is common in low rent buildings especially for tenants who can't pass a credit check.


First and Last Months' rent plus security deposit is common in the North East. I encountered it all over RI and MA where rents are typically $1500-$1800 for a 1 bedroom. My current FL apartment only wanted a security deposit and first months rent to move in. I am comfortably living on grad student wage in contrast to when I was working full time in MA, living in RI and making some coin. I was on a strict budget to make ends meet.

In OR, I think there was only a security deposit + first month (which is the only place I got screwed out of it so far) and MS only wanted security + first month.
2013-09-22 12:21:58 PM  
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Living at a hotel is like the living-situation equivalent of pay-day loans.  Once you fall into that trap, how do you expect to ever find your way out again?


Well, you'll bust your ass at work, put in your time, help grow the organization, and then when a higher paying position opens up, they'll hire someone from outside or just put the boss's son in that position, and then the next day you'll clear out the office with a couple handguns and a 12-gauge and then kill yourself in the ensuing standoff, and that payday loan debt will be passed off to a debt collection agency who will then go after your family for it.
2013-09-22 12:14:34 PM  
1 votes:
Living at a hotel is like the living-situation equivalent of pay-day loans.  Once you fall into that trap, how do you expect to ever find your way out again?
2013-09-22 12:06:17 PM  
1 votes:

fozziewazzi: buzzcut73: Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.

Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.

It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.


Haha! I love it.

Kids today are fat blobs that never leave the house. Poor parenting.

Except sometimes kids leave the house and cause trouble. Poor parenting.
2013-09-22 12:06:02 PM  
1 votes:
fozziewazzi:

It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.

Sorry, I was talking about my own yard, not the neighbor's yard. I don't let my kids go mess around on other people's property, and there would be hell to pay if they damaged somebody else's car or windows.
2013-09-22 12:04:00 PM  
1 votes:

Vtimlin: This clearly falls under the "too bad, so sad" rules.


shut up while the big kids are talking
2013-09-22 12:02:34 PM  
1 votes:

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


You're also making a assumption that this is their choice and that "welfare" (which was abolished during the Clinton administration) pays enough for a mortgage or a apartment. Can you imagine the shiatstorm we'd hear from the Teahadists if it did?

Anyway temporary housing assistance (HUD, Section 8) is $750 a month max. That's if they even qualify, which they probably don't or they'd have an apartment or public housing, which is at a 99% occupancy rate btw.

The economy is still shiat.
2013-09-22 11:55:46 AM  
1 votes:

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


Adults are talking, shut the fark up as you're too stupid to contribute.
2013-09-22 11:53:51 AM  
1 votes:

DoomPaul: So what is the remedy to the situation? Legislation banning a hotel from kicking out a guest with children without "x" amount of days notice?


tighter rules about how much land lords can charge for security deposits and move in fees. Government services that help people find affordable housing and deal with the logistics of moving(getting utilities started etc) and access to safe and affordable low income housing that's close enough to grocery stores and jobs.
2013-09-22 11:48:46 AM  
1 votes:

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


Because they don't have a car to live in
2013-09-22 11:47:48 AM  
1 votes:

Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.


Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.
2013-09-22 11:45:51 AM  
1 votes:
According to their website, their rates start at $149/week, which is ~ $650/month ($149 x 52 weeks / 12), not including hotel taxes. A quick scan of Orlando Craig's List shows that this is actually comparable to rents in the Orlando region, plus there is no security deposit required. All things considered, it's actually not in a bad part of the area - the Kissimmee location is right next to Disneyworld and the pool looks actually pretty nice. This isn't the Ritz or anything, but I've stayed in worse. Their downtown location doesn't look at night. I'm sure the rates for the Kissimmee location go up quite a bit during the tourist season.
2013-09-22 11:40:31 AM  
1 votes:
Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.
2013-09-22 11:35:01 AM  
1 votes:

DigitalCoffee: /the only dick move that I see here is kicking out that lady and girl on short notice
//OMG a CHILDS was at TEH POOLZ!!!! P.A.N.I.C.!!!


Right.  The dick move wasn't breaking the rules, it was enforcing them.  It's better to reinforce the idea there are no consequences.  I bet that rule is in place not for safety or to limit liability but just because the hotel's owner hates the sound of children's laughter.
2013-09-22 11:31:12 AM  
1 votes:

FizixJunkee: urbanexotic:
It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.

About half of Americans can't come up with $2,000 within thirty days.  If you're earning poverty wages and get very short notice to move out and find a new place, you're screwed.  If half of all Americans can't come up with the equivalent of a security deposit + rent within a thirty day window, then imagine how tough it must be for the working poor.

I'm surprised more people aren't living in storage units and long-term hotels.


It's coming.  The selfsame assholes here who keep burbling about how those poors are badly managing money they don't have will hopefully be put in the same position shortly.

But then again, those selfsame a-holes will then cry about how they are being oppressed and they don't deserve such and will learn nothing.
2013-09-22 11:27:23 AM  
1 votes:

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


That's a feature, not a bug.
2013-09-22 11:17:44 AM  
1 votes:
The family said the motel sent them and other families a letter saying they didn't want children living there anymore because it plans to convert into a 55+ community.

I'm going to start a company there that fires people on their 55th birthday. We are a 54- community! Get out!
2013-09-22 11:16:38 AM  
1 votes:
As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
2013-09-22 11:10:31 AM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

Interesting. I've lived in 4 different apartments in my life and every single one of them, the security deposit was one month's rent. And I think all of them (definitely 3) required last month's rent too. So, yea, I needed three months rent to move in.


I've lived in 3 different apartments in my life (only one of which required a credit check) and all of them only required deposit plus first month's rent. For one the deposit was one month rent (amusingly enough considering the discussion, this was the one with a credit check) and for the other two the deposit was about half a month's rent.
2013-09-22 10:59:54 AM  
1 votes:

skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro


Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.
2013-09-22 10:56:15 AM  
1 votes:
I am not sympathetic to these folks at all. If you want a permanent place to live get a house, apartment, trailer or motor home.  If the hotel wants to kick you out you don't get any significant notice.  That is just the way it is.  They knew, or should have known, that when them moved in.
2013-09-22 10:45:43 AM  
1 votes:
I've seen them as low as $170 a week near the airport in Orlando.
 
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