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(WFTV Orlando)   "It's not fair kicking all these families out just because they have children. Does that sound like a Home Suite Home to you?"   (wftv.com) divider line 167
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2013-09-22 04:30:28 PM

had98c: schemy: Katolu: had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Wait, dude, what? Where are you located? I ain't rich but I can help a Farker out.

THIS

I'm in New Mexico. I'll be fine. Just have to save up for a couple more weeks from my job at Wally World so I can move into a new place.


Good luck to you.  I've been there.  It will get better.
 
2013-09-22 04:39:40 PM
schemy:

I'm in New Mexico. I'll be fine. Just have to save up for a couple more weeks from my job at Wally World so I can move into a new place.

Good luck to you.  I've been there.  It will get better.


Hey, I'm in New Mexico too, it isn't -that- bad. He could be in Missouri

/Just trying to add some levity.
//Best of luck to you
 
2013-09-22 04:59:46 PM
No lease? Get one in the next place you choose to stay.
 
2013-09-22 05:23:52 PM
I've read stories about families living in those places for years. And how some of those short term stay places are moving them to different units, to segregate those that actually pay from those that are just heaped upon them by the state. Read one story about a family that had 5 kids, being "forced" to live in a 1 br unit. And they were illegal to boot, saying they have the same rights as anyone else.  Sure they do, but you have to pay for it.  Sure, complain about how it's the goverments fault you have no job, or ability to compete in the marketplace, or whatever whine you have. My wife and one son  are trying to make do in a 3200 sq ft, 6 year old house, and I do have a bit of trouble paying for my BMW parts, but budget it.
Consider yourself fortunate you're even here, and by saying you're not a criminal, though by definition, it's criminal to be here without governmental pernission, regardless how you "see" it.
I pay my bills, pay my taxes, so by definition, Yes, I am entitled to  have a certain modicum of discretion in my actions. Many of the people being thrown out are those that have a history of causing problems with other "residents" or authorities. Recntly I've read many of those extended stay places are on or near 441 (Orange Blossom Trail) known to be a high crime area. At least it was when I lived in Orlando.
 
2013-09-22 05:33:15 PM

schemy: had98c: schemy: Katolu: had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Wait, dude, what? Where are you located? I ain't rich but I can help a Farker out.

THIS

I'm in New Mexico. I'll be fine. Just have to save up for a couple more weeks from my job at Wally World so I can move into a new place.

Good luck to you.  I've been there.  It will get better.



I had a tough spell when I was around 20 years old living in Las Cruces.  I had the time of life, but I was broke as shiat and at one point was one eight-hour shift away from homelessness (I'll save that story for another time).

Things eventually got better for me---a lot better.  I hope they get better for you, too.

/I still love New Mexico
//if I could find a good-paying job with a modicum of job security, I'd move back in a heartbeat.
 
2013-09-22 06:21:20 PM

jaytkay: Mugato: Old people have a lot of sex with other old people. Seniors neighborhoods make it convenient to pop over to visit your neighbour for a little of her "home cooking".

I could have happily lived out the rest of my life without that visual.

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/ Sleep tight!


fark you for that! I'm sending YOU my eye-bleaching bill!
 
2013-09-22 06:22:26 PM

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: cretinbob: Go Fornicate Without a Partner: TheEvilOne23: Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.

FINALLY.  A voice of reason.  Is it just me, or is reality and pragmatic observation being replaced with polarized, extreme partisan-vomit?  Having worked at every level of subsidized childcare for a decade, I got to know the mentality all too well.  You have described the scenario that unfolds 85% of the time you give an inch.  The entitlement mentality amongst welfare dynasties is nearly identical to that of trust fund babies.  The middle class is the only thing holding our society together.  Too bad it wasn't more incentive-driven to obtain middle class status.
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did my opinion (which is mine, not yours, btw) offend your sensiblities?  Or is white-knighting for the downtrodden just part of how you perceive your ego?  Jumping straight to name-calling is usually a sign of low intelligence.  Which makes the retard language quite ironic.


No, I wasn't sure if you were serious or just retarded.
 
2013-09-22 06:54:11 PM
It does say in the article that they want to cut down on crime by changing it to seniors only and I believe it. Primrose and 50 is a high crime area. The reason being is directly caused by some of the folks who stay over at the Home Suite Home - not all of them, but many of them are less than savory individuals. I lived very close to this place for a year. When we were looking for houses to buy, we knew to stay away from this area. The homes that were for sale closest to the HSH are still for sale months later, no one will touch them. Our realtor even advised us to stay away, in case we weren't aware. We had someone break into our house, guess what address the guy gave when they caught him? Yup. It is understandable that the place wishes to have less issues and it is in their right as business owners to do so.
 
2013-09-22 09:17:01 PM

RodneyToady: The family said the motel sent them and other families a letter saying they didn't want children living there anymore because it plans to convert into a 55+ community.

They're not being kicked out for an arbitrary reason.  There's a carve-out in discrimination law for retirement communities.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like there's a weird area when it comes to living in a motel.  It's not a real apartment, but if you're there for months on end, it's not a short stay, either.

That's the legal aspect.  From an interpersonal standpoint, I'd probably give those with kids in school until the end of the school year to move, if it's feasible.


I'm guessing the courts will too--it's an ADR/family court kind of ruling. You can't just move kids into different school districts mid-school year, for all kinds of reasons; no matter how bad the apartment owner wants to make a retirement home out of his lo-rent housing. Now that's assuming the families involved choose to go that route and not make it about race/age discrimination or somesuch.
 
2013-09-22 10:56:04 PM

Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

We got a financial advisor and figured out we can turn $150,000 into retiring within 10 years, because of my extensive construction background and the fact that we can build a 2ksq. ft. house for $100k, appraise it at 500-600k, home equity loan it for ~400, and build 3-4 more homes and either sell em, or rent.

Yes, some poor people are poor because of hardship.  But only an idiot would be naive enough to think that statistically a huge amount of low income people are low income because they are awful about the choices they make in their life.  Unless you plan on donating a substantial amount of your income to these people, if you believe they're so good with their money...I would imagine that you can stable your high horse for now.  Most sane people understand your position is untrue and inaccurate.


Truly I hope you all the best.  I sincerely wish that your plan works and your family can realize the benefit of your family inheritance and your work.

But....

The 2008 housing bubble is awash of stories of people just like you, wanting to float loans to finance other projects, then getting stuck when the banks implode.  Be careful, be smart, and make sure always have an out for your family.  That financial planner doesn't have any stake in this.  If you get caught holding the bag, they already have their money and all statements regarding the future are best estimates and not guaranteed.  All it takes to tank the market is some greedy person at an investment bank that overstated his position or politicians looking to score votes by saying they did not approve of extending the debt limit.  None of them give a fark if you end up in the soup line.
 
2013-09-23 12:13:18 AM

Fade2black: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Mugato: Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.

Agreed.  The very definition of being born on third base, and thinking he hit a triple.

I didn't state anywhere about being born on 3rd base.


...said the guy who stands to inherit $150,000.00.
 
2013-09-23 02:25:20 AM

Coastalgrl: Voiceofreason01: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

First and last months rent is common in low rent buildings especially for tenants who can't pass a credit check.

First and Last Months' rent plus security deposit is common in the North East. I encountered it all over RI and MA where rents are typically $1500-$1800 for a 1 bedroom. My current FL apartment only wanted a security deposit and first months rent to move in. I am comfortably living on grad student wage in contrast to when I was working full time in MA, living in RI and making some coin. I was on a strict budget to make ends meet.

In OR, I think there was only a security deposit + first month (which is the only place I got screwed out of it so far) and MS only wanted security + first month.


Yup, in Providence - and down in Philly PA, too - it's first/last/deposit. And the deposit is almost always a full month, + extra if they allow you to have a pet. Don't expect to ever see it back, either.
 
2013-09-23 02:30:17 AM

namegoeshere: thenumber5: the people that live full time in these place are the ones who make too much for such "Safety Nets" but for what ever reason cant live in a normal apartment building/duplex/home.

The safety nets are full. There is a four year waiting list for section 8 housing in my city. They are just now processing applications filed in 2008. In LA the wait can be up to ten years.


Connecticut won't even let people sign up to the waiting list anymore.
 
2013-09-23 06:58:42 AM

ornithopter: namegoeshere: thenumber5: the people that live full time in these place are the ones who make too much for such "Safety Nets" but for what ever reason cant live in a normal apartment building/duplex/home.

The safety nets are full. There is a four year waiting list for section 8 housing in my city. They are just now processing applications filed in 2008. In LA the wait can be up to ten years.

Connecticut won't even let people sign up to the waiting list anymore.


Only vets can here.
 
2013-09-23 11:01:52 AM

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


I know google is hard, but 30 seconds would have revealed that Home Suite Home offers rates as low as $149 a week.  $600 is not an unreasonably high amount to pay, especially if it gets you into a better school district.
 
2013-09-23 11:37:10 AM
MycroftHolmes:
No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

I know google is hard, but 30 seconds would have revealed that Home Suite Home offers rates as low as $149 a week.  $600 is not an unreasonably high amount to pay, especially if it gets you into a better school district.


My original post was a silly troll... but for serious, I can't imagine you get a decent motel room for $149 a week.  Like I doubt you get a kitchenette, which means your food preparation options become limited and more expensive.
 
2013-09-23 12:46:32 PM
"It's not fair kicking all these families out just because they have children. Does that sound like a Home Suite Home to you?"

Why, yes. Yes, it does.

/still a dick move to give no notice
//hate kids
///hate old people too
////hate everyone except my SO
 
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