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2013-09-22 12:38:19 PM  
I read some replies, not all, but here is my story.  About 2 years ago I had a house I was renting and we received notice that it was in the way of construction so we had to leave.  I searched and searched tons of apts in my kid's school district and none were available on such short notice (none that I really wanted to move in, I do value my child and wanted to avoid drug dens and bed bugs), but there was an extended stay hotel literally in the backyard of her school.  We opted that, thinking well a few weeks here and we will find a place.  Not so.  Ten months later I was still there, no one would rent to me because that was the address I put down and it was "assumed" I was on welfare (not so, I work full time and my hubby owns his own business that he was just starting up).  The rent each week was 190.00, and truthfully, after all that time, it was hard to save enough money up for first and last month deposit plus rent.  It sucks you in.  Thankfully, family came through and we have a house now, a permanent one.  I will never live like that again,  it is alot harder than you may think and the mindset that you must be on welfare, lazy, don't care where you live, and you are a total loser is exhausting to fight against.
 
2013-09-22 12:42:35 PM  

theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?


It's the way that property taxes are set up in the state. Out-of-state property owners pay the most tax. Your average, non-senior, resident gets a 'homestead' exemption. A senior gets a 'homestead' exemption and a 'senior' exemption. A senior living in a 55+ community gets 'homestead' + 'senior' + 'NO SCHOOL TAX' exemptions. As a comparison (with numbers completely pulled from my ass) a house that is in a normal neighborhood and owned by an out-of-stater might have a total tax burden of $5000 while an identical house in a 55+ community lived in by a senior may only have a $600 total tax burden.
 
2013-09-22 12:44:54 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

First and last months rent is common in low rent buildings especially for tenants who can't pass a credit check.


First and Last Months' rent plus security deposit is common in the North East. I encountered it all over RI and MA where rents are typically $1500-$1800 for a 1 bedroom. My current FL apartment only wanted a security deposit and first months rent to move in. I am comfortably living on grad student wage in contrast to when I was working full time in MA, living in RI and making some coin. I was on a strict budget to make ends meet.

In OR, I think there was only a security deposit + first month (which is the only place I got screwed out of it so far) and MS only wanted security + first month.
 
2013-09-22 12:48:14 PM  

Miracle Whip: It sucks you in.


THIS.  I know someone who got stuck playing this game, and only managed to get out when low-cost, subsidized housing opened up.
 
2013-09-22 12:50:15 PM  

theknuckler_33: meat0918: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?

They typically get a deferment or lower taxes in these places on property taxes.

Then they biatch about how bad city government is, the roads suck, and back in their day the schools were great.

Well, that certainly is much worse than biatching about old people.


I don't mind most old people, but the 55+ communities group....

Goddamn.

I'm not sure what bugs me about it.  I think it's the cloistering themselves away from the rest of society, while demanding we give them respect and defer to them because "they've earned it".  Some of them maybe have, and I'll tip my hat towards a retired war vet, and I'll give some of what I grow to my older neighbors that have commented (i.e. dropped an unsubtle hint) how much the love zucchini or artichokes.

I live near some great, caring retired folk that love their neighborhood.  Some needs help, he's there with tools and two or three extra guys to lend a hand.

I also live near some that are so terrified of the world around them, they can't want to sell their house and move to a 55+ place (these are also the folk that have no problem spraying roundup over the fence on their neighbor's weeds).
 
2013-09-22 12:50:58 PM  

DigitalCoffee: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?

It's the way that property taxes are set up in the state. Out-of-state property owners pay the most tax. Your average, non-senior, resident gets a 'homestead' exemption. A senior gets a 'homestead' exemption and a 'senior' exemption. A senior living in a 55+ community gets 'homestead' + 'senior' + 'NO SCHOOL TAX' exemptions. As a comparison (with numbers completely pulled from my ass) a house that is in a normal neighborhood and owned by an out-of-stater might have a total tax burden of $5000 while an identical house in a 55+ community lived in by a senior may only have a $600 total tax burden.


Is that just in Florida?

Anyway, seems kind of weird to refer to someone taking advantage of tax breaks available to them as a 'tax dodger'.  I guess I'm a tax dodger because I deduct my mortgage interest from my taxable income.
 
2013-09-22 12:53:29 PM  
Don't these motel-dwellers have bootstraps they can pull up?
 
2013-09-22 12:59:07 PM  
theknuckler_33

Anyway, seems kind of weird to refer to someone taking advantage of tax breaks available to them as a 'tax dodger'.  I guess I'm a tax dodger because I deduct my mortgage interest from my taxable income.

Naw man, you're on the dole, sucking on the government teat.
 
2013-09-22 01:01:23 PM  

meat0918: theknuckler_33: meat0918: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?

They typically get a deferment or lower taxes in these places on property taxes.

Then they biatch about how bad city government is, the roads suck, and back in their day the schools were great.

Well, that certainly is much worse than biatching about old people.

I don't mind most old people, but the 55+ communities group....

Goddamn.

I'm not sure what bugs me about it.  I think it's the cloistering themselves away from the rest of society, while demanding we give them respect and defer to them because "they've earned it".  Some of them maybe have, and I'll tip my hat towards a retired war vet, and I'll give some of what I grow to my older neighbors that have commented (i.e. dropped an unsubtle hint) how much the love zucchini or artichokes.

I live near some great, caring retired folk that love their neighborhood.  Some needs help, he's there with tools and two or three extra guys to lend a hand.

I also live near some that are so terrified of the world around them, they can't want to sell their house and move to a 55+ place (these are also the folk that have no problem spraying roundup over the fence on their neighbor's weeds).


Fair enough.  I guess I just can't really bring myself to think too much about them (people who choose to live in those communities) other than the few that I personally know.
 
2013-09-22 01:02:17 PM  
Just another example on how the aging Boomer generation is screwing over every generation the came after them.
 
kth
2013-09-22 01:05:22 PM  
Moving is expensive. We moved to a college town when my husband got a job as a professor. We're not in a position to buy a house because mid-life career changes (I started my own law firm, he went to grad school) wiped out our savings, so we had to rent.  It cost us maybe $5k to move 65 miles if you include first month rent, deposit (including pet and mower), utilities, moving expenses. We had to borrow money from my parents, and we're both gainfully employed.
 
2013-09-22 01:06:07 PM  

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


We've stayed at places like this in FL on vacation, and I've been put up in these by companies I have worked for. They are actually set up just like apartments or condos with full kitchens, bathrooms, etc. A lot of the hotels in Orlando area that cater to people here for a week are like this, much to the chagrin of the local restaurant industry who wants every family eating every meal in their restaurants. In a lot of these places, they are waaay nicer than whatever hovel they live in back home.
 
2013-09-22 01:06:11 PM  

had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


Wait, dude, what? Where are you located? I ain't rich but I can help a Farker out.
 
2013-09-22 01:07:37 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You finally find a listing that's in a decent area and in your price range and you cal up and "Oh, we're a senior lifestyle community. 55+."


That's probably why the price was so affordable.  Senior communities tend to be cheaper than the areas around them since there is a smaller pool of buyers/renters interested in the property.
 
2013-09-22 01:11:42 PM  

Macular Degenerate: We've stayed at places like this in FL on vacation, and I've been put up in these by companies I have worked for. They are actually set up just like apartments or condos with full kitchens, bathrooms, etc.


I've been to a couple of really nice hotels that did this.  The Knickerbocker in Milwaukee, WI, and some place in New Zealand.  The NZ hotel was great, because food prices are outrageous there, and the hotel wanted $10 for a breakfast consisting of toast.  I got a box of cereal and some milk at the grocery store, and the hotel room had a fully furnished kitchen with bowls and spoons.
 
2013-09-22 01:13:15 PM  

Dinjiin: That's probably why the price was so affordable.  Senior communities tend to be cheaper than the areas around them since there is a smaller pool of buyers/renters interested in the property.


That's not what I've seen. They're building new 55+ communities all over the place and they're every bit as expensive as other new communities. Hell, the one they just built next to me are going for close to 300k and it's not like I'm in a upper class area.
 
2013-09-22 01:15:36 PM  

DigitalCoffee: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?

It's the way that property taxes are set up in the state. Out-of-state property owners pay the most tax. Your average, non-senior, resident gets a 'homestead' exemption. A senior gets a 'homestead' exemption and a 'senior' exemption. A senior living in a 55+ community gets 'homestead' + 'senior' + 'NO SCHOOL TAX' exemptions. As a comparison (with numbers completely pulled from my ass) a house that is in a normal neighborhood and owned by an out-of-stater might have a total tax burden of $5000 while an identical house in a 55+ community lived in by a senior may only have a $600 total tax burden.


Some states just freeze the school tax portion at age 65 so that seniors don't have to worry about losing their homes once they're on a fixed income, and it only applies if they lived in the house before they turned 65. That's pretty fair for everybody. Exempting entirely instead of freezing seems like just another way for boomers to screw the younger generations over.
 
2013-09-22 01:16:40 PM  

gottagopee: FizixJunkee: urbanexotic:
It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.

About half of Americans can't come up with $2,000 within thirty days.  If you're earning poverty wages and get very short notice to move out and find a new place, you're screwed.  If half of all Americans can't come up with the equivalent of a security deposit + rent within a thirty day window, then imagine how tough it must be for the working poor.

I'm surprised more people aren't living in storage units and long-term hotels.

It's coming.  The selfsame assholes here who keep burbling about how those poors are badly managing money they don't have will hopefully be put in the same position shortly.

But then again, those selfsame a-holes will then cry about how they are being oppressed and they don't deserve such and will learn nothing.


My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

We got a financial advisor and figured out we can turn $150,000 into retiring within 10 years, because of my extensive construction background and the fact that we can build a 2ksq. ft. house for $100k, appraise it at 500-600k, home equity loan it for ~400, and build 3-4 more homes and either sell em, or rent.

Yes, some poor people are poor because of hardship.  But only an idiot would be naive enough to think that statistically a huge amount of low income people are low income because they are awful about the choices they make in their life.  Unless you plan on donating a substantial amount of your income to these people, if you believe they're so good with their money...I would imagine that you can stable your high horse for now.  Most sane people understand your position is untrue and inaccurate.
 
2013-09-22 01:18:02 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Macular Degenerate: We've stayed at places like this in FL on vacation, and I've been put up in these by companies I have worked for. They are actually set up just like apartments or condos with full kitchens, bathrooms, etc.

I've been to a couple of really nice hotels that did this.  The Knickerbocker in Milwaukee, WI, and some place in New Zealand.  The NZ hotel was great, because food prices are outrageous there, and the hotel wanted $10 for a breakfast consisting of toast.  I got a box of cereal and some milk at the grocery store, and the hotel room had a fully furnished kitchen with bowls and spoons.


I've been put up in places like this a couple of times by different companies, one in Salt Lake for 3 weeks, and one in Honolulu, usually a week at a time, depending on flights back out to the rock I was working on that is 4 hours flying time west of HNL. It beats the hell out of staying in a regular room...having dishes and a stove to cook on really helps you save that sweet per diem cash. The one in HNL was more like a condo than a hotel, downtown and within walking distance of the Aloha Tower and Chinatown, and it cost the company the same on a per day basis as a standard hotel room would have.
 
2013-09-22 01:18:38 PM  

Katolu: had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Wait, dude, what? Where are you located? I ain't rich but I can help a Farker out.


THIS
 
2013-09-22 01:21:45 PM  
Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.
 
2013-09-22 01:24:29 PM  

Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.


Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.
 
2013-09-22 01:25:43 PM  

TheEvilOne23: Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.


Yes, there are. Hard times generation: Homeless kids
 
2013-09-22 01:27:02 PM  

Mugato: Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.


Agreed.  The very definition of being born on third base, and thinking he hit a triple.
 
2013-09-22 01:35:12 PM  

had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


Clearly that's your choice and you are scum and should kill yourself and DIAF, amirite?
 
2013-09-22 01:38:39 PM  

TheEvilOne23: Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.


FINALLY.  A voice of reason.  Is it just me, or is reality and pragmatic observation being replaced with polarized, extreme partisan-vomit?  Having worked at every level of subsidized childcare for a decade, I got to know the mentality all too well.  You have described the scenario that unfolds 85% of the time you give an inch.  The entitlement mentality amongst welfare dynasties is nearly identical to that of trust fund babies.  The middle class is the only thing holding our society together.  Too bad it wasn't more incentive-driven to obtain middle class status.
 
2013-09-22 01:41:26 PM  

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: TheEvilOne23: Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.

FINALLY.  A voice of reason.  Is it just me, or is reality and pragmatic observation being replaced with polarized, extreme partisan-vomit?  Having worked at every level of subsidized childcare for a decade, I got to know the mentality all too well.  You have described the scenario that unfolds 85% of the time you give an inch.  The entitlement mentality amongst welfare dynasties is nearly identical to that of trust fund babies.  The middle class is the only thing holding our society together.  Too bad it wasn't more incentive-driven to obtain middle class status.

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2013-09-22 01:47:06 PM  
there is a extended stay hotel next to the high school in this town. i'm their often because i walk around a track they have. anyway, a 2 minute walk away from the hotel is a gas station and i see a steady parade of people walking to the gas station from the hotel and bringing back expensive junk food. a 10 minute walk in the other direction is a regular supermarket with good prices but i hardly ever see anyone walking to it.  the money these people are wasting and the crap they are feeding their kids gives me a sad.
 
2013-09-22 01:51:15 PM  

cretinbob: Go Fornicate Without a Partner: TheEvilOne23: Here is whats happening. The parents are letting the kids run wild on the property, go to the pool, piss and poop in it. Generally act like hood rats with no supervision. Management got pissed and had enough. Found a loop hole to get the welfare queens out. "Stop acting like welfare is a windfall" is what one asshat spewed. These queens get Welfare, AFDC, Section 8...they are smoking their Pall Malls, eating out, while their crotch fruit makes holy hell on everyone around them. Good for the Motel. Got them out. There are two sides to every story.

FINALLY.  A voice of reason.  Is it just me, or is reality and pragmatic observation being replaced with polarized, extreme partisan-vomit?  Having worked at every level of subsidized childcare for a decade, I got to know the mentality all too well.  You have described the scenario that unfolds 85% of the time you give an inch.  The entitlement mentality amongst welfare dynasties is nearly identical to that of trust fund babies.  The middle class is the only thing holding our society together.  Too bad it wasn't more incentive-driven to obtain middle class status.
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did my opinion (which is mine, not yours, btw) offend your sensiblities?  Or is white-knighting for the downtrodden just part of how you perceive your ego?  Jumping straight to name-calling is usually a sign of low intelligence.  Which makes the retard language quite ironic.
 
2013-09-22 01:59:12 PM  
There are ones around here for about $200 a week.  That works out to about $800 a month. This include electric, gas, water, sewer, trash, cable, and internet.  When you include all the extra it is not bad use of money.

It can be very hard to rent if you have bad credit or have a police record of any kind.
 
2013-09-22 02:03:42 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Mugato: Fade2black: My wife and I get trust fun money next month from the grandparents who passed away.  Low six figures.  Poor people would blow it on hookers and blow, or buy a new car and party like it's 1999.

Wow. I hope they got your good side when they took your "definition of insufferable douchebag" picture for the dictionary.

Agreed.  The very definition of being born on third base, and thinking he hit a triple.


I didn't state anywhere about being born on 3rd base.  I still work hard at my job, pay my mortgage, and have 2 financed cars.  You completely gloss over the point I made about alot of poor people are awful with money.  Let me know how that "Ignorance is bliss" works out for you in the long run.
 
2013-09-22 02:08:28 PM  
.....white-knighting for the downtrodden....the middle class is the only thing holding our society together....

..name-calling is usually a sign of low intelligence.....


In case you haven't noticed, the middle class is dying, Go Fornicate Without a Partner
 
2013-09-22 02:20:24 PM  

Cranky McOldfart: That's because you  don't have the slightest idea what it's like to be poor.  Well, that and your complete lack of empathy.  Go enjoy your bitterness.


Absolutely amazing how awful and totally clueless some people can be.  I'd like to see them volunteer their financial wisdom at a local shelter or kitchen, and see the look on the audience faces while they blather on about how they should get a real house with a mortgage and totally max out their matched contribution to their company's 401k plan, and how the beater they're driving should be replaced by a more reliable car since interest rates are low and they'll save a lot on maintenance.

Everybody should live poor for at least a week.  It's farking terrifying not knowing how you will eat tomorrow, or where you will live next week.  Thankfully I never had to do it with a kid, or while sick.
 
2013-09-22 02:25:52 PM  
I've known 3 different people who've had to live in motels.

The first one was a young girl who worked at a Burger King while going to college. She couldn't get together enough money to move into an apartment.

The second person was my Aunt. She had a husband who was supporting her and her kid. They broke up, the husband moved out..... and she got evicted from the house they were renting because she couldn't pay for it. After that, she got a job, but couldn't find an apartment to rent to her because she had an eviction in her renter's history.

The third person is a current co-worker of mine. She's a hard worker, very responsible and reliable, and she spends nearly all of her free time helping out people who are trying to get off of drugs. She's very proud of the fact that she's been clean herself for almost 4 years.... She also has several drug felonies that still come up on a background check. She makes good money..... but has to live in a motel.

None of these people qualified for welfare. If they did, the state would've helped them find permanent housing.
 
2013-09-22 02:27:35 PM  

Fade2black: I didn't state anywhere about being born on 3rd base.


Except for the trust fund you earned through years and years of hard work, striving to be born to a family that gave you a trust fund.

Fade2black: You completely gloss over the point I made about alot of poor people are awful with money.


Glossed over? No, we noticed your sneering dismissal of the way poor people mismanage the trust funds that poor people so frequently give to their grandkids.
 
2013-09-22 02:34:08 PM  
the extended state motel they'd been living in

What the hell is an "extended state motel"?
 
2013-09-22 02:34:49 PM  

starlost: there is a extended stay hotel next to the high school in this town. i'm their often because i walk around a track they have. anyway, a 2 minute walk away from the hotel is a gas station and i see a steady parade of people walking to the gas station from the hotel and bringing back expensive junk food. a 10 minute walk in the other direction is a regular supermarket with good prices but i hardly ever see anyone walking to it.  the money these people are wasting and the crap they are feeding their kids gives me a sad.


Most people in "Extended Stay Hotels" are business/construction people in an area for for a project, and are working off an expense account
 
2013-09-22 02:35:29 PM  

SomebodyElsesShoes: FTA:  "It's been a basic business decision to try to help some of these families move off property and get these families into homes where they belong instead of living and growing inside of a hotel," owner Dianna Chane said.

What?


Yep. Better they grow up on the street. They might learn sumthin'
 
2013-09-22 02:36:51 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper


Apartment requires first and last month's rent plus a "damage deposit" that you don't get back no matter what the condition of the apartment is.  Trailer requires that you find someone willing to lend you money.
 
2013-09-22 02:37:13 PM  

Macular Degenerate: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

We've stayed at places like this in FL on vacation, and I've been put up in these by companies I have worked for. They are actually set up just like apartments or condos with full kitchens, bathrooms, etc. A lot of the hotels in Orlando area that cater to people here for a week are like this, much to the chagrin of the local restaurant industry who wants every family eating every meal in their restaurants. In a lot of these places, they are waaay nicer than whatever hovel they live in back home.


When I used to be on the road a lot for my company I would try to stay in a suite style hotel. Some of them like springhill suites were more like small 1 br apartments. These typically didn't offer weekly rates though. Having the full kitchen was nice. Sometimes I would go to the store and buy stuff to cook. Sometimes I would eat out. The per diem was nice.

As to the article and how you could end up in one of these things perpetually. Where I used to live it was first, last, full month security + 250 pet deposit and on top of that you had to provide a farkin reference and pay 25 nonrefunadable for the credit check. This was around $2200 up front. Granted last month went to the last month and the deposits were refundable if you didnt fark the place up but still. If you are living check to check just coming up with first and last is going to be a biatch. You probably wont pass the credit check either.
 
2013-09-22 02:44:38 PM  
If this is turning into a 55+ community how can they just kick out the folks with kids? Wouldn't they have to kick out everyone who was younger than 55. They couldn't rent to anyone younger could they? Seems like a lot of trouble and a real cut to your customer base just to get rid of a few perceived problem children.
 
2013-09-22 02:48:11 PM  

ELKAY: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

Because an apartment requires a down payment and a credit check, and if you are really poor living day to day then at no time do you have the money to move into an apartment. Especially if you are paying exurbanite hotel room fees.


THIS. It's expensive to be poor. A little hand up at the right time breaks the cycle for some of us.

*remembers the Bad Old Days*
 
2013-09-22 02:55:29 PM  

Mugato: What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.


Senior communities = This is why we CAN have nice things. Suck it, haters.
 
2013-09-22 03:08:52 PM  
There are two kinds of extended stay hotels.

There are the nice ones that cater to business people and temporary workers. They're set up more like condos than a hotel room and are what most people here are describing.

The second kind are motels on their way down that are just looking to collect some kind of income. I'm an evidence tech and I get called to these places all the time. Sometimes they used to be reputable hotels. I've been to some that look like they would have been luxurious conference centers back in the 1980s, but now they're outdated and have been allowed to slide into disrepair. It's like walking into a time warp. The TVs are still 1980s tube models, if they work at all. The shag carpet is worn thin and stained. None of the bedding matches and the sheets are yellowed and ragged. Even if it's a no-smoking room, the ceiling and walls are yellowed like old newspaper. All the furniture is chipped and dented. The bathroom tile has black grout - oops, nope, mildew and god knows what. These places don't have regular maid service and haven't offered it for decades.

Sometimes, these motels still bear reputable-sounding names. That gets ugly for travelers who inadvertently book their vacations and don't know what they're getting into until they arrive. <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g37209-d582205-Reviews- Rodeway _Inn-Indianapolis_Indiana.html ">Here is a great example of what they might find.</a>

Most of them near me advertise rates of $129 a week or less. Considering that includes water, power, heat/AC, and basic cable, it's a pretty good deal with base rent starts around $500 a month not including any utilities. There are also no deposits or background/credit checks. A lot of convicted sex offenders end up in these motels because the combination of being legally restricted from living in certain areas and limited income doesn't leave them many options. Ditto with other types of felons who are restricted from living in subsidized housing because of their records. Shelters are over capacity and most can't house children with their parents, so there are lots of single women with kids staying in motels.

These are some of the most depressing places I walk into. I understand why a motel might want to avoid that fate, but it's also easy to see how people in such bad situations end up in them with no other place to go.
 
2013-09-22 03:16:09 PM  
The hotel might not have a kitchen for making 3 squares a day but it definitely has a bed for making more increases to that monthly check.
 
2013-09-22 03:20:18 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Cataholic: Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.

That's a feature, not a bug.

Like your lack of empathy?


Ironic, coming from someone who continues to advocate a system which enslaves people in poverty, keeping them reliant on the government just so they can remain in political power.  It's no different than the pimp who convinces his teenage employees that they shouldn't go home because their parents hate them.
 
2013-09-22 03:36:05 PM  

schemy: Katolu: had98c: As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Wait, dude, what? Where are you located? I ain't rich but I can help a Farker out.

THIS


I'm in New Mexico. I'll be fine. Just have to save up for a couple more weeks from my job at Wally World so I can move into a new place.
 
2013-09-22 03:40:07 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: The hotel might not have a kitchen for making 3 squares a day but it definitely has a bed for making more increases to that monthly check.


in what world do you live that an Extended Stay Hotel falls under HUD housing

the people that live full time in these place are the ones who make too much for such "Safety Nets" but for what ever reason cant live in a normal apartment building/duplex/home.
 
2013-09-22 03:43:15 PM  

ApatheticMonkey: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

[homesuitehome.com image 400x240]

I get the feeling that the bathroom is doing double duty as the kitchen.  Or vice versa.  Either way, ew.


Food goes in, food goes out, and you don't even have to leave the room. How convenient.
 
2013-09-22 03:57:27 PM  

thenumber5: the people that live full time in these place are the ones who make too much for such "Safety Nets" but for what ever reason cant live in a normal apartment building/duplex/home.


The safety nets are full. There is a four year waiting list for section 8 housing in my city. They are just now processing applications filed in 2008. In LA the wait can be up to ten years.
 
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