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2013-09-22 11:42:44 AM
So what is the remedy to the situation? Legislation banning a hotel from kicking out a guest with children without "x" amount of days notice?
 
2013-09-22 11:45:17 AM
No goddamn hero tag?
 
2013-09-22 11:45:33 AM
sendtodave:
It costs a lot to be poor.

This bears repeating
 
2013-09-22 11:45:51 AM
According to their website, their rates start at $149/week, which is ~ $650/month ($149 x 52 weeks / 12), not including hotel taxes. A quick scan of Orlando Craig's List shows that this is actually comparable to rents in the Orlando region, plus there is no security deposit required. All things considered, it's actually not in a bad part of the area - the Kissimmee location is right next to Disneyworld and the pool looks actually pretty nice. This isn't the Ritz or anything, but I've stayed in worse. Their downtown location doesn't look at night. I'm sure the rates for the Kissimmee location go up quite a bit during the tourist season.
 
2013-09-22 11:45:55 AM
They tried this years ago in Virginia Beach with an "adult only" complex. Some guys ex took off and left the child with him, never to return. The complex tried to evict him because of the adults only rule, only to be overturned by the court because the complex was discriminating against him because he had a child.
So no, I don't think they can get away with it.
 
2013-09-22 11:47:11 AM
Take their food stamps away too. That'll teach them.
 
2013-09-22 11:47:48 AM

Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.


Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.
 
2013-09-22 11:48:46 AM

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


Because they don't have a car to live in
 
2013-09-22 11:50:04 AM

buzzcut73: Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.

Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.


Toys. Not possessive. I -never- do that and am now annoyed with myself.
 
2013-09-22 11:51:57 AM

cig-mkr: They tried this years ago in Virginia Beach with an "adult only" complex. Some guys ex took off and left the child with him, never to return. The complex tried to evict him because of the adults only rule, only to be overturned by the court because the complex was discriminating against him because he had a child.
So no, I don't think they can get away with it.


The courts have ruled 55+ no children communities are legal, because the residents are beyond child bearing years or something like that.
 
2013-09-22 11:52:27 AM
I can only hope this is a follow up to the "Bridezilla" story from the earlier thread.
 
2013-09-22 11:52:37 AM

Gentoolive: Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


Welfare keeps people alive as they look for a job or a better one.
 
2013-09-22 11:53:51 AM

DoomPaul: So what is the remedy to the situation? Legislation banning a hotel from kicking out a guest with children without "x" amount of days notice?


tighter rules about how much land lords can charge for security deposits and move in fees. Government services that help people find affordable housing and deal with the logistics of moving(getting utilities started etc) and access to safe and affordable low income housing that's close enough to grocery stores and jobs.
 
2013-09-22 11:54:53 AM
This clearly falls under the "too bad, so sad" rules.
 
2013-09-22 11:55:46 AM

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


Adults are talking, shut the fark up as you're too stupid to contribute.
 
2013-09-22 11:57:30 AM
I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers
 
2013-09-22 11:58:12 AM
What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.
 
2013-09-22 12:01:36 PM

Mugato: What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.


everybody drives 15mph under the speed limit, nobody plays any of that damned rap music and canasta Tuesdays at the community center.
 
2013-09-22 12:02:04 PM
I bet the hotel room has a tv, refrigerator, and AC.

If these people can't even afford a proper place to live, how can they deserve luxuries like these and children?
 
2013-09-22 12:02:34 PM

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


You're also making a assumption that this is their choice and that "welfare" (which was abolished during the Clinton administration) pays enough for a mortgage or a apartment. Can you imagine the shiatstorm we'd hear from the Teahadists if it did?

Anyway temporary housing assistance (HUD, Section 8) is $750 a month max. That's if they even qualify, which they probably don't or they'd have an apartment or public housing, which is at a 99% occupancy rate btw.

The economy is still shiat.
 
2013-09-22 12:03:04 PM
Being young (relatively) and trying to find a home or apartment here in coastal FL farking sucks. You finally find a listing that's in a decent area and in your price range and you cal up and "Oh, we're a senior lifestyle community. 55+."

Another reason I can't wait to abandon this shiathole of a state. It's yours Mexicans, old people, and transplants from NY.
 
2013-09-22 12:03:21 PM

buzzcut73: Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.

Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.


It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.
 
2013-09-22 12:03:50 PM

Mugato: What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die".


No, you don't.

That's why they're segregated.

/ Also Florida has no ice floes for pushing them out to sea.
 
2013-09-22 12:04:00 PM

Vtimlin: This clearly falls under the "too bad, so sad" rules.


shut up while the big kids are talking
 
2013-09-22 12:04:16 PM

Voiceofreason01: DoomPaul: So what is the remedy to the situation? Legislation banning a hotel from kicking out a guest with children without "x" amount of days notice?

tighter rules about how much land lords can charge for security deposits and move in fees. Government services that help people find affordable housing and deal with the logistics of moving(getting utilities started etc) and access to safe and affordable low income housing that's close enough to grocery stores and jobs.


Why do you hate the free market?
 
2013-09-22 12:04:40 PM
Chibi Shinigami:
I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit.

Previous trolling aside, I think this is extremely unusual.  I've (in Ontario) never had to pay a "security deposit" but first and last is always up front (on the upside your last month there is paid for, it's not like the money disappears).  It's a huge barrier to affordable housing for very poor people.


Mugato:
What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.

Old people have a lot of sex with other old people.  Seniors neighborhoods make it convenient to pop over to visit your neighbour for a little of her "home cooking".
 
2013-09-22 12:05:00 PM
"We've never had a problem, they've never said nothing until now," Cusano said.

Translation: We receive letters from management at least once a month about how the kids disturb other patrons.
 
2013-09-22 12:05:12 PM

Tom_Slick: cig-mkr: They tried this years ago in Virginia Beach with an "adult only" complex. Some guys ex took off and left the child with him, never to return. The complex tried to evict him because of the adults only rule, only to be overturned by the court because the complex was discriminating against him because he had a child.
So no, I don't think they can get away with it.

The courts have ruled 55+ no children communities are legal, because the residents are beyond child bearing years or something like that.


Yeah, I'm sure it is now, like I said that was years ago. We must be PC and all.
And besides, a naked 55+ woman is birth control enough to prevent child bearing.
I should know I'm three score and nine years old.
 
2013-09-22 12:05:28 PM

meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers


I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?
 
2013-09-22 12:06:02 PM
fozziewazzi:

It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.

Sorry, I was talking about my own yard, not the neighbor's yard. I don't let my kids go mess around on other people's property, and there would be hell to pay if they damaged somebody else's car or windows.
 
2013-09-22 12:06:17 PM

fozziewazzi: buzzcut73: Igor Jakovsky: Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.

Eh, they can have their 55+ communities. Most of the old retired neighbors I've had have been a giant pain in the ass that worry about what you're doing on your own side of the fence and whether your kids toy's happen to get left in the yard. I imagine a neighborhood filled with old folks would be a really depressing place to live.

It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.


Haha! I love it.

Kids today are fat blobs that never leave the house. Poor parenting.

Except sometimes kids leave the house and cause trouble. Poor parenting.
 
2013-09-22 12:06:44 PM

theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?


They typically get a deferment or lower taxes in these places on property taxes.

Then they biatch about how bad city government is, the roads suck, and back in their day the schools were great.
 
2013-09-22 12:07:11 PM

TinyFist: No Such Agency:  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

You must be checking the wrong boxes on your tax forms or something. All my taxes go to NASA, infrastructure, and education. (50/30/20%). No one to blame but yourself, buddy.


I remember, YEARS ago hearing that the book on how to make regulation brownies in the marines was over 100 pages long and thinking "Fark yah! That's where I want MY taxes to go."
 
2013-09-22 12:07:30 PM

Mugato: What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.


They're profitable.  You'll get a loss less wear/tear on the apartment and fixtures when you've got senior citizen renters.

Seniors don't so much want to live with other seniors than not wanting to live around other people's kids.
 
2013-09-22 12:08:29 PM

No Such Agency: Mugato:
What's with senior communities anyway? "I want to live near a lot of other people who are about to die". The whole concept seems depressing.

Old people have a lot of sex with other old people.  Seniors neighborhoods make it convenient to pop over to visit your neighbour for a little of her "home cooking".


I could have happily lived out the rest of my life without that visual.
 
2013-09-22 12:09:35 PM
fozziewazzi:

It's not just the 55+ crowd that have an issue with parents that allow their children to use the neighborhood as their playground.  If parents want their kids to burn energy they can use their backyard or take them to a park.  Raising children is not a communal responsibility.  Landscaping, broken windows and car dents and scratches are expensive.

So, no free-range childrearing in your neighborhood?

"It was good enough us when we were growing up, but no farking way are we going to allow it for this youngest generation!"
 
2013-09-22 12:12:46 PM

fozziewazzi: Seniors don't so much want to live with other seniors than not wanting to live around other people's kids.


I don't like kids either but the day I get so crotchety about it that I have to live in a separate community of other crotchety people is the day I wish I had died young in a tragic blimp accident rather than grow that old.
 
2013-09-22 12:14:30 PM

Ambivalence: I remember, YEARS ago hearing that the book on how to make regulation brownies in the marines was over 100 pages long and thinking "Fark yah! That's where I want MY taxes to go."


Sounds legit.

Excellent basis for deciding how to vote.
 
2013-09-22 12:14:34 PM
Living at a hotel is like the living-situation equivalent of pay-day loans.  Once you fall into that trap, how do you expect to ever find your way out again?
 
2013-09-22 12:18:58 PM

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?


They accept section 8 vouchers. A lot of seedier hotels and motels have taken to doing it as a way to ensure a steady cash flow.
 
2013-09-22 12:20:28 PM
I lived in a Hilton for about 6 months once.
 
2013-09-22 12:20:42 PM

Mugato: Old people have a lot of sex with other old people. Seniors neighborhoods make it convenient to pop over to visit your neighbour for a little of her "home cooking".

I could have happily lived out the rest of my life without that visual.


lh6.googleusercontent.com

/ Sleep tight!
 
2013-09-22 12:21:58 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Living at a hotel is like the living-situation equivalent of pay-day loans.  Once you fall into that trap, how do you expect to ever find your way out again?


Well, you'll bust your ass at work, put in your time, help grow the organization, and then when a higher paying position opens up, they'll hire someone from outside or just put the boss's son in that position, and then the next day you'll clear out the office with a couple handguns and a 12-gauge and then kill yourself in the ensuing standoff, and that payday loan debt will be passed off to a debt collection agency who will then go after your family for it.
 
2013-09-22 12:24:16 PM

divx88: I lived in a Hilton for about 6 months once.


Did you get your shots?
 
2013-09-22 12:24:58 PM

Cataholic: Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.

That's a feature, not a bug.


Like your lack of empathy?
 
2013-09-22 12:26:26 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Living at a hotel is like the living-situation equivalent of pay-day loans.  Once you fall into that trap, how do you expect to ever find your way out again?


Back in 2005 I was working at a hotel, and I came on with the new owners as they tried to clean up the place. I had to turn away families looking for that because the boss said "No".  The old owner of the place had made it into a place you could get a room for $10 and your EBT card as deposit, the last stop on your way down before having to head to the homeless shelter or getting a cardboard box.  He had a few rooms off to the side that he didn't care about, and needed to be completely gutted and redone by the new owners.  Blood, shiat, urine, vomit, used needles.  I wouldn't be surprised if someone had cooked meth in one of them.   I got out of that job and into a better one after only 3 months there.

We found a huge collection these EBT cards and driver's licenses the old owner had collected. I came in the next day and the new owner had tossed them in the dumpster.

We had Katrina refugees (in Oregon), a family down on their luck, recovering meth addicts, and a fat guy that tried to lure me into his place to "work on his computer" all living there on weekly rents ($100-150 per week).  Those were raised weekly until they couldn't afford it and had to move.

It was quite the eye opening experience.
 
2013-09-22 12:29:35 PM

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


homesuitehome.com

I get the feeling that the bathroom is doing double duty as the kitchen.  Or vice versa.  Either way, ew.
 
2013-09-22 12:33:40 PM

Mugato: divx88: I lived in a Hilton for about 6 months once.

Did you get your shots?


Yup, got my shots and I was allowed to play in the pool.
 
2013-09-22 12:36:32 PM

ApatheticMonkey: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

[homesuitehome.com image 400x240]

I get the feeling that the bathroom is doing double duty as the kitchen.  Or vice versa.  Either way, ew.


The bathroom in many of hotels I've stayed in for work have the shower and shiatter in the bathroom proper, and the sink is outside that area.
 
2013-09-22 12:38:16 PM

meat0918: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I despise 55+ communities.

Rot together, you youth hating tax dodgers

I don't get the 'tax dodgers' part. What is that a reference to?

They typically get a deferment or lower taxes in these places on property taxes.

Then they biatch about how bad city government is, the roads suck, and back in their day the schools were great.


Well, that certainly is much worse than biatching about old people.
 
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