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2013-09-22 09:55:36 AM
The family said the motel sent them and other families a letter saying they didn't want children living there anymore because it plans to convert into a 55+ community.

They're not being kicked out for an arbitrary reason.  There's a carve-out in discrimination law for retirement communities.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like there's a weird area when it comes to living in a motel.  It's not a real apartment, but if you're there for months on end, it's not a short stay, either.

That's the legal aspect.  From an interpersonal standpoint, I'd probably give those with kids in school until the end of the school year to move, if it's feasible.
 
2013-09-22 10:31:59 AM

RodneyToady: That's the legal aspect.  From an interpersonal standpoint, I'd probably give those with kids in school until the end of the school year to move, if it's feasible.


It would be feasible and kind and understanding but this is Florida so, it's not going to happen.
 
2013-09-22 10:33:06 AM
It's their hotel, they make the rules. Sorry boutcha.
 
2013-09-22 10:35:12 AM
2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper
 
2013-09-22 10:36:16 AM
How much do these places cost?
 
2013-09-22 10:37:51 AM
Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.
 
2013-09-22 10:40:51 AM

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


Because an apartment requires a down payment and a credit check, and if you are really poor living day to day then at no time do you have the money to move into an apartment. Especially if you are paying exurbanite hotel room fees.
 
2013-09-22 10:41:00 AM
FTA:  "It's been a basic business decision to try to help some of these families move off property and get these families into homes where they belong instead of living and growing inside of a hotel," owner Dianna Chane said.

What?
 
2013-09-22 10:41:01 AM

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro
 
2013-09-22 10:41:51 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper


Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?


The ones around here are $500 a week.
 
2013-09-22 10:43:03 AM

skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro


Really, what a douchebag.
 
2013-09-22 10:45:03 AM

Tom_Slick: namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.


Holy shiat.
 
2013-09-22 10:45:43 AM
I've seen them as low as $170 a week near the airport in Orlando.
 
2013-09-22 10:46:26 AM

Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.


This is is $150 a farking WEEK.  $600/month for room, utilities, wifi, pool, free local phone and maid service (one a week I would guess).  That sounds like a farking deal to me.

http://homesuitehome.com/specials-extendedstay.php
 
2013-09-22 10:47:25 AM

No Such Agency:  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


You must be checking the wrong boxes on your tax forms or something. All my taxes go to NASA, infrastructure, and education. (50/30/20%). No one to blame but yourself, buddy.
 
2013-09-22 10:49:18 AM

wingnut396: Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.

This is is $150 a farking WEEK.  $600/month for room, utilities, wifi, pool, free local phone and maid service (one a week I would guess).  That sounds like a farking deal to me.

http://homesuitehome.com/specials-extendedstay.php


That is cheap, not being in the market, I was going off the signs in the Sandy Springs area of Atlanta.
 
2013-09-22 10:53:56 AM

Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week


$500/week is hardly a deal.  They clearly are guilty of mismanaging the free money they are given if they chose to spend that on a hotel room.  My mortgage on a 4bd 2 bath house in CA is only $1400/month.  Throw in taxes, garbage service and such and its probably close to their 2k/month but at least its god some space, is appropriate for children and actually intended for long term residence.
 
2013-09-22 10:54:31 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper


I imagine these hotel-cum-apartments are attractive options for those people who can't seem to scrounge up a depost plus first and last month's rent, not to mention deposits on variuos utilities.  They pay for one month up front and immediately have a shelter, electricity, water, gas, cable, etc.
 
2013-09-22 10:54:32 AM

wingnut396: Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.

This is is $150 a farking WEEK.  $600/month for room, utilities, wifi, pool, free local phone and maid service (one a week I would guess).  That sounds like a farking deal to me.

http://homesuitehome.com/specials-extendedstay.php


You are living in a hotel room. I mean, yea, that's a cheap hotel room, but think about LIVING in a hotel room. Check out the photo gallery. It looked like they have a fridge and a microwave... but I didn't see a stove.
 
2013-09-22 10:55:32 AM
Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.
 
2013-09-22 10:56:15 AM
I am not sympathetic to these folks at all. If you want a permanent place to live get a house, apartment, trailer or motor home.  If the hotel wants to kick you out you don't get any significant notice.  That is just the way it is.  They knew, or should have known, that when them moved in.
 
2013-09-22 10:57:53 AM

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


Those are places with a credit check, without a credit check gets you first last and a deposit equal to one months rent.
 
2013-09-22 10:58:18 AM
I'd like it if the meth dealers across the way would tell the motorcycle gang to stop driving the hogs up to the door. At 2am.
 
2013-09-22 10:59:16 AM

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


In SoCal, we paid $4,400 to move into an apartment.  When we moved to Georgia, we only had to fork over $1,700 to get into a place.  Neither of those values includes utility deposits (which we didn't have to pay because we have immaculate credit).
 
2013-09-22 10:59:30 AM

Ima4nic8or: Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week

$500/week is hardly a deal.  They clearly are guilty of mismanaging the free money they are given if they chose to spend that on a hotel room.  My mortgage on a 4bd 2 bath house in CA is only $1400/month.  Throw in taxes, garbage service and such and its probably close to their 2k/month but at least its god some space, is appropriate for children and actually intended for long term residence.


Where in the article does it state they are paying with "free money," plenty of members of the working poor also have difficulty coming up with the money and credit for an apartment. In fact if they were connected to services they would probably be in Section 8.
 
2013-09-22 10:59:54 AM

skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro


Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.
 
2013-09-22 11:01:13 AM

FizixJunkee: Neither of those values includes utility deposits (which we didn't have to pay because we have immaculate credit).


Your apartment must have been on GA power, the EMCs around here require a deposit for anyone renting.
 
2013-09-22 11:02:03 AM

Ima4nic8or: I am not sympathetic to these folks at all.


That's because you  don't have the slightest idea what it's like to be poor.  Well, that and your complete lack of empathy.  Go enjoy your bitterness.
 
2013-09-22 11:02:04 AM

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


Interesting. I've lived in 4 different apartments in my life and every single one of them, the security deposit was one month's rent. And I think all of them (definitely 3) required last month's rent too. So, yea, I needed three months rent to move in.
 
2013-09-22 11:05:09 AM

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


derp
 
2013-09-22 11:06:50 AM

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


Yeah, better to let people starve out on the street.
 
2013-09-22 11:09:04 AM

theknuckler_33: wingnut396: Tom_Slick: Mid_mo_mad_man: 2 years? Get an apartment or trailer. Gotta be cheaper

Those usually require 1st and last months rent plus a deposit, and utility payments extended stay hotels don't.

namegoeshere: How much do these places cost?

The ones around here are $500 a week.

This is is $150 a farking WEEK.  $600/month for room, utilities, wifi, pool, free local phone and maid service (one a week I would guess).  That sounds like a farking deal to me.

http://homesuitehome.com/specials-extendedstay.php

You are living in a hotel room. I mean, yea, that's a cheap hotel room, but think about LIVING in a hotel room. Check out the photo gallery. It looked like they have a fridge and a microwave... but I didn't see a stove.


Not to pick on you guys specifically, but this conversation reminds me of the thread we had a month or so back about those guys living in a NYC 'storage' unit. With all the trash and bugs and stuff everyone was saying "How can they live like that?" (sound familiar?) And the answer was "It's better than living homeless on the streets." This is just the next step up. The storage unit was better than nothing, and the motel room is better than the storage unit. It isn't pleasant to think about, but people do what they have to do in order to survive.

/the only dick move that I see here is kicking out that lady and girl on short notice
//OMG a CHILDS was at TEH POOLZ!!!! P.A.N.I.C.!!!
 
2013-09-22 11:10:31 AM

theknuckler_33: Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.

Interesting. I've lived in 4 different apartments in my life and every single one of them, the security deposit was one month's rent. And I think all of them (definitely 3) required last month's rent too. So, yea, I needed three months rent to move in.


I've lived in 3 different apartments in my life (only one of which required a credit check) and all of them only required deposit plus first month's rent. For one the deposit was one month rent (amusingly enough considering the discussion, this was the one with a credit check) and for the other two the deposit was about half a month's rent.
 
2013-09-22 11:13:52 AM
Interesting. I've lived in 4 different apartments in my life and every single one of them, the security deposit was one month's rent. And I think all of them (definitely 3) required last month's rent too. So, yea, I needed three months rent to move in.

I suspect rental fees might be determined based on state laws. Most of the places I rented in Michigan asked for first month's rent and a security deposit equal to a month's rent. I've been in Dallas for a few years now, and the 3 places we've rented so far have each asked for first month's rent and a $150 security deposit (which we've been able to waive each time because my husband works at the local large university).

It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.
 
2013-09-22 11:16:38 AM
As someone who's currently living out of his car, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-09-22 11:16:39 AM

DigitalCoffee: theknuckler_33: You are living in a hotel room. I mean, yea, that's a cheap hotel room, but think about LIVING in a hotel room. Check out the photo gallery. It looked like they have a fridge and a microwave... but I didn't see a stove.

Not to pick on you guys specifically, but this conversation reminds me of the thread we had a month or so back about those guys living in a NYC 'storage' unit. With all the trash and bugs and stuff everyone was saying "How can they live like that?" (sound familiar?) And the answer was "It's better than living homeless on the streets." This is just the next step up. The storage unit was better than nothing, and the motel room is better than the storage unit. It isn't pleasant to think about, but people do what they have to do in order to survive.


Oh, I agree 100%. My post was really just refuting the idea that living in the motel was a 'deal' as if it is better than a regular apartment or something. Hell, even the studio apartment my brother had years ago had a full kitchen even if it was just 'against that wall over there'. I don't see anyone getting by in a regular apartment 'down-sizing' to a motel room as a way of saving money.

/the only dick move that I see here is kicking out that lady and girl on short notice
//OMG a CHILDS was at TEH POOLZ!!!! P.A.N.I.C.!!!


I'm sure it is a liability issue in our litigious society. I'm guessing they don't have a lifeguard.
 
2013-09-22 11:17:44 AM
The family said the motel sent them and other families a letter saying they didn't want children living there anymore because it plans to convert into a 55+ community.

I'm going to start a company there that fires people on their 55th birthday. We are a 54- community! Get out!
 
2013-09-22 11:18:05 AM

Gentoolive: It's their hotel, they make the rules. Sorry boutcha.


This
 
2013-09-22 11:22:19 AM
urbanexotic:
It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.

About half of Americans can't come up with $2,000 within thirty days.  If you're earning poverty wages and get very short notice to move out and find a new place, you're screwed.  If half of all Americans can't come up with the equivalent of a security deposit + rent within a thirty day window, then imagine how tough it must be for the working poor.

I'm surprised more people aren't living in storage units and long-term hotels.
 
2013-09-22 11:27:05 AM

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


It cost us close to $1,800 to move into our current apartment. We had to pay first & last, plus a security deposit (over $200). It would have been more had we not opted to sign a lease instead of going with a rental agreement.
 
2013-09-22 11:27:23 AM

Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.


That's a feature, not a bug.
 
2013-09-22 11:29:51 AM
Orlando and much of Florida have tons of empty homes that make many neighborhoods look like they have been hit by a plague they are so empty, this is from the housing crisis and all of its over building.

Even in Ocala, where I love there are many signs out for no credit check rentals, because the owners, the banks, would rather get a little money back and have someone living there so the AC and the ductwork do not get stolen.

400 bucks a month for plenty of nice two bedrooms.
 
2013-09-22 11:31:12 AM

FizixJunkee: urbanexotic:
It's been nice not having to cough up a couple thousand dollars to move someplace new, and I don't why more people can't understand how difficult it is for people living paycheck to paycheck to save up that kind of money to improve their living situation.

About half of Americans can't come up with $2,000 within thirty days.  If you're earning poverty wages and get very short notice to move out and find a new place, you're screwed.  If half of all Americans can't come up with the equivalent of a security deposit + rent within a thirty day window, then imagine how tough it must be for the working poor.

I'm surprised more people aren't living in storage units and long-term hotels.


It's coming.  The selfsame assholes here who keep burbling about how those poors are badly managing money they don't have will hopefully be put in the same position shortly.

But then again, those selfsame a-holes will then cry about how they are being oppressed and they don't deserve such and will learn nothing.
 
2013-09-22 11:33:55 AM

No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.


Because you are poor.

It costs a lot to be poor.
 
2013-09-22 11:33:58 AM

Clemkadidlefark: Gentoolive: It's their hotel, they make the rules. Sorry boutcha.

This


Keep licking them boots, slave...
 
2013-09-22 11:35:01 AM
Gentoolive:

WelfareWalmart does nothing more than keep people on welfare.

FTFY
 
2013-09-22 11:35:01 AM

DigitalCoffee: /the only dick move that I see here is kicking out that lady and girl on short notice
//OMG a CHILDS was at TEH POOLZ!!!! P.A.N.I.C.!!!


Right.  The dick move wasn't breaking the rules, it was enforcing them.  It's better to reinforce the idea there are no consequences.  I bet that rule is in place not for safety or to limit liability but just because the hotel's owner hates the sound of children's laughter.
 
2013-09-22 11:39:04 AM

picturescrazy: Gentoolive: skankboy: No Such Agency: Why on earth would you live in a motel for months, that costs more than renting an apartment or even paying a mortgage on your own house.  This is why i hate my taxes going to welfare, these people just don't bother to manage their money.

These hotels are often times cheaper than an apartment.  You can pay by the week and they don't require a credit check.

Fark you and your pathetic contribution to taxes.  Acting like welfare is some sort of windfall make it clear that you don't know what the hell is going on, and you just regurgitate what your inbred brethren spew.

/not mad bro

Welfare does nothing more than keep people on welfare.

Yeah, better to let people starve out on the street.


It's like I said in another thread -- liberals are worried that there's someone out there who needs help but isn't getting it, while conservatives are worried that there's someone out there who is getting help but doesn't DESERVE it.

This is why they hate the fact that single moms can get food stamps but don't even bat an eyelid at oil companies getting welfare or corporate farms getting paid to not grow food.
 
2013-09-22 11:40:31 AM
Ahh...the only form of legal housing discrimination that I can think of strikes again. I still wonder how age discrimination in housing can be legal and then I remember old people vote and the AARP has a powerful lobby.
 
2013-09-22 11:42:29 AM

Chibi Shinigami: Yeah, these kids need an apartment with more space.

How do they cook in these apartments? Is there a kitchen? I assume it's a typical one room hotel room...that's not appropriate.

Also, I've lived in 7 different apartments in my life. Not one has required a last month's rent. You only have to pay rent when you move in, of course, for the upcoming month, and the security deposit. My security deposit at this place was $99 and that's about typical in my experience. I have lived in several cities and this has been consistent throughout.


First and last months rent is common in low rent buildings especially for tenants who can't pass a credit check.
 
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