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(Oregon Live)   Phil Knight has offered to donate $500 million to help cure cancer. Difficulty: A University has to find $500 million to match it in the next two years. Challenge accepted?   (oregonlive.com) divider line 65
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2013-09-22 02:43:45 AM
Or he could do his research and donate it to the school doing the best research. $500 million there would probably do more than a billion at the school that's best at fundraising.
 
2013-09-22 06:37:45 AM
What a dickface.
 
2013-09-22 09:25:11 AM

doglover: What a dickface.


+1.

/conditional charity donations are one of the sleaziest celebrity emotional manipulation techniques out there.
 
2013-09-22 09:26:04 AM

doglover: What a dickface.


Well, I can see what his plan is. The question is whether it'll work.
 
2013-09-22 09:26:19 AM
Sounds like a waste of a billion dollars.
 
2013-09-22 09:29:53 AM
What a colossal asshole. If he wants to help people, he should do a little research and donate to the school that can put the money to the best possible use, not the school that has the best PR machine. This is all about HIM, not curing cancer.
 
2013-09-22 09:30:51 AM
Phil either donate the $500m to buy more legacy and slap your name on more buildings in Oregon because you know they'll be around longer than you and you can't take your money to the afterlife, or shut up. Conditional donations are pretty sleazy.
 
2013-09-22 09:36:27 AM
I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.
 
2013-09-22 09:37:34 AM
Wonder if he'll also donate a large group of 10-year-old Cambodian girls for placebo controlled clinical trials?
 
2013-09-22 09:37:42 AM
Wow.  All the non-marketing Farkers have crawled out of the woodwork (your call on whether being called non-marketing is an insult, cuz really, it could either way)

By setting up his donation on contingency, Mr. Nike has given Oregon a huge marketing tool when they start having all their minimum wage college students start calling up all the alumni and other potential donors.  "Hey, if we can raise $500 million, we'll get another $500 million.  Won't you please help us reach our goal?"  And because people will see their dollars being not only good, cuz hey, who likes cancer, but they'll also see it as part of getting a huge donation on top of their little donation.

I suspect Oregon will have no problem at all getting their half of the money.  In fact, I'll go so far as to say they might very well get to the $1 billion before Mr Nike pitches in.  I also suspect, based on Mr. Nike's previous actions, he'll end up giving the school more than what he promised when it happens.
 
2013-09-22 09:38:36 AM

YoOjo: I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.


Your point being?
 
2013-09-22 09:39:54 AM

YoOjo: I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.


^this

Saying your goal is a "cure" is a half step down from just going balls-out and declaring you're looking for the secret of immortality.
 
2013-09-22 09:40:11 AM
He's probably had quite a few cases of cancer pop up in his factories, if it's cured he can get more years out of the workers.
 
2013-09-22 09:40:47 AM
These are the situations that I would love to see Warren Buffett go through his dirty laundry, pull out all the spare change, and take this douche to task.
 
2013-09-22 09:42:40 AM
Holy shiat, for a second there I thought Bobby Knight had somehow become a billionaire.
 
2013-09-22 09:43:10 AM

Koodz: YoOjo: I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.

^this

Saying your goal is a "cure" is a half step down from just going balls-out and declaring you're looking for the secret of immortality.


Besides, according to the Chiropractor I heard on talk radio last night, there is not a single disease or medical condition that can't be cured with an organic holistic diet and  regular spinal adjustments.
 
2013-09-22 09:44:05 AM

LarryDan43: He's probably had quite a few cases of cancer pop up in his factories, if it's cured he can get more years out of the workers.


In that case he should be donating to a children's cancer center.
 
2013-09-22 09:44:29 AM
Difficulty???? There's no shortage of universities with   endowments north of a billion dollars.
 
2013-09-22 09:46:12 AM
Considering Nike's inseparable relationship with Oregon's athletic department, I'm sure the memorabilia sales would scrounge up the bill in no time. Course it would mean cashing in on the player-athlete likenesses more than usual, but hey, it's for a good cause and it's giving back t

No, I'm sorry. I can't keep typing that with a straight face.
 
2013-09-22 09:52:14 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Holy shiat, for a second there I thought Bobby Knight had somehow become a billionaire.


Common mistake but this is the guy who shook down Vanilla Ice by hanging off a balcony.
 
2013-09-22 09:53:57 AM
Will the university accept a third-party, out-of-state, post-dated check for that amount?
 
2013-09-22 09:56:12 AM
Gee, rich people now have a whole new way to tell us how compassionate and giving they are except the public institutions won't let them do it.
 
2013-09-22 09:56:38 AM
Has anyone noted the appearance of Phil's face yet?
 
2013-09-22 09:59:05 AM

Koodz: YoOjo: I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.

^this

Saying your goal is a "cure" is a half step down from just going balls-out and declaring you're looking for the secret of immortality.



Oh, very well then. Screw cancer and lets go golfing instead?
 
2013-09-22 09:59:26 AM
I contribute to humanitarian efforts by not buying Nike products.
 
2013-09-22 10:01:12 AM
He should set up an account to donate funds based on liking a Facebook status. That seems to work pretty well.
 
2013-09-22 10:02:14 AM

Mighty_Joe: Difficulty???? There's no shortage of universities with   endowments north of a billion dollars.


This.

I've never seen ass kissing on this level before.
 
2013-09-22 10:02:39 AM

DerAppie: YoOjo: I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.

Your point being?


My point is simple, I saw 'cure for cancer' as opposed to 'cure for some cancers' and commented on that.
This total eradication of all cancer is raising a lot of false hope possibly. I appreciate it funds a lot of research and that equals jobs but there's a lot of people out there that have lost someone important to cancer and I feel it's overly playing on their emotions to get donations if the carrot is a total cure.
I don't actually know any of the above, I'm just a guy pressing buttons on a device somewhere that enable me to make comments. I couldn't tell from your question if you wanted more of my opinions or were just telling me to shut up, but if the latter then I don't really do internet arguments.
 
2013-09-22 10:06:18 AM
$500 million? That's the down payment on a football stadium. This should be easy.
 
2013-09-22 10:09:50 AM
Maybe our friend in Aspen has a few bucks leftover after paying his speeding ticket.
 
2013-09-22 10:10:39 AM
I might be wrong, but, if all that money is a) going to OHSU and b) going to cancer research, then it'd be going to the Knight Cancer Institute, which, if the website is accurate, has 143 researchers. Assuming (almost certainly incorrectly) that every single one of them was a principal investigator and had his/her own lab and that the funding would be split equally between them all, each one would get $7 million. Why not award massive research funding based on merit of the actual research/ideas and productivity of the researchers?

/Oh, right, because you're using your excess cash as a masturbation aid
//must be fun being impossibly wealthy
///hopefully something good will come of it, despite the inefficiency
 
2013-09-22 10:12:55 AM
Put a $5 or $8 surcharge on every athletic ticket (sorry, too early and lazy to do the math).

Generally increases in prices result in lower demand, but in the case of major sports (football, basketball, maybe hockey in Oregon) I suspect the Giffen Paradox will apply:  An increase in pricing will be matched by a similar increase in demand.

Just sayin'.
 
2013-09-22 10:18:00 AM
I wonder how badly he'd feel if I pointed out
a) I had to look up who he was
b) his company's idea of a 14D was really a 14B and thus worthless
 
2013-09-22 10:20:26 AM
Great to see so many development officers/experienced wealthy donors here.

Cool tag is an understatement!
 
2013-09-22 10:21:40 AM

wildcardjack: his company's idea of a 14D was really a 14B and thus worthless


What the fark does that mean. No, I don't want to know. But I promise you that if everyone who does know dropped dead the world would be a much better place inside of three months.
 
2013-09-22 10:22:11 AM

Mighty_Joe: Difficulty???? There's no shortage of universities with   endowments north of a billion dollars.


That's an impressive list especially since I have not heard of some of the institutions before. And people always say it's the athletic teams that bring in the money...HA.
 
2013-09-22 10:22:46 AM

AliceBToklasLives: Or he could do his research and donate it to the school


NutWrench: If he wants to help people, he should do a little research and donate to the school


You want him to break out the waffle iron and start studying cancer on his kitchen table?
 
2013-09-22 10:26:17 AM

doglover: What a dickface.


Considering how much he's already thrown at the athletic department, this us some world-class douchebaggery.
 
2013-09-22 10:38:33 AM

doglover: wildcardjack: his company's idea of a 14D was really a 14B and thus worthless

What the fark does that mean. No, I don't want to know. But I promise you that if everyone who does know dropped dead the world would be a much better place inside of three months.


It means Nike's are made using off spec, often narrow, forms. When you're built to five-quarter scale you have to buy most of your clothing online, and a company that lies about their sizing goes into the "fark you with your shoe" category. In the past decade it's gotten worse because the sizing has been generalized to fit a global average that includes a lot of short people.
 
2013-09-22 10:38:36 AM
This is f-ing ridiculous. There are already cures. Period.
 
2013-09-22 10:52:30 AM
Giving all the money to one location, instead of individual talented researchers, actually has merit.  Researchers talk to each other and collaborate more readily with people at the same institution.  The grad students and post docs will chat research while out having drinks or getting together in the lunch room.  The best cancer researchers in the nation can be lured to one location with promises of funding and this may get them to work together instead of competing.  Keep in mind that there is so much new literature coming out in the general cancer field (even in specific cancer types) that no one researcher can really read and analyze all of it; having a group of specialized research in one place means that A points out a potentially key paper to B when their research needs it.

Besides, he's done more than just giving $1bil.  He's given them PR.  He's given the average Joe a chance to give $50 and feel like he gave $100.  I'm working on a fundraiser for the UMDF right now, and we love it when we get someone that promises matching donations.  It gets the volunteers excited, so they raise more than they would otherwise, and then it's doubled.  Does it feel kind of douchy?  Yes.  If I was at OHSU still, I would be psyched and grateful.
 
2013-09-22 11:00:16 AM
A cure for cancer, but no cure for using sweatshop labor to build a fortune.
 
2013-09-22 11:01:45 AM

Mighty_Joe: Difficulty???? There's no shortage of universities with   endowments north of a billion dollars.


I was gonna say. Stanford or Harvard or Yale could do this easily.
 
2013-09-22 11:02:47 AM

italie: Koodz: YoOjo: I thought it was accepted that we can't 'cure' cancer, we can only cure cancers.
There's no magic wand that will eradicate all cancers, just some. Even if we make incredible progress against it we will never be on top, something to do with it mutating probably.

^this

Saying your goal is a "cure" is a half step down from just going balls-out and declaring you're looking for the secret of immortality.


Oh, very well then. Screw cancer and lets go golfing instead?


That's fair, but I find it interesting that this is one area in which people seem all in favor of setting an unattainable goal.  If a Little League coach told his kids when he was forming the team that they were going to become undefeated World Series champions I'd like to think a few people would say, "Hey, that's high-spirited, but it might not be the best idea to give kids those kinds of expectations."  Seems like it's just a setup for somebody to come along later and say "Screw it, they never found a cure, so let's cut these biatches off" as you imply.  I'd rather see realistic, achievable goals for this kind of thing.  I guess "Race for Significant Improvement in 5-year Survival Rates" doesn't fit on a t-shirt.
 
2013-09-22 11:17:15 AM
Will I get a free tote bag?
 
2013-09-22 11:21:04 AM

CowardlyLion: Why not award massive research funding based on merit of the actual research/ideas and productivity of the researchers?


Inability to see beyond the next quarterly profit statement like typing detected.

/Discovery doesn't happen on the basis of a Microsoft Project timeline.
 
2013-09-22 11:23:58 AM

CowardlyLion: I might be wrong, but, if all that money is a) going to OHSU and b) going to cancer research, then it'd be going to the Knight Cancer Institute, which, if the website is accurate, has 143 researchers. Assuming (almost certainly incorrectly) that every single one of them was a principal investigator and had his/her own lab and that the funding would be split equally between them all, each one would get $7 million. Why not award massive research funding based on merit of the actual research/ideas and productivity of the researchers?

/Oh, right, because you're using your excess cash as a masturbation aid
//must be fun being impossibly wealthy
///hopefully something good will come of it, despite the inefficiency


That's not how endowments work. The trustees don't spend the principal, they allow the university to spend the gains. If the trustees can guarantee a 6% return, then that comes out to be about $420,000 per current researcher per year. That would allow OHSU to double their current staff and provide more lab/office space. Medical research is expensive. It's argued that one new drug costs $800 million

$800 Million Pill

It might stimulate Oregon's economy but it's not going to "cure" cancer. The most important risk factor for cancers is growing older. Although younger folks can get cancer, mostly it's people over 65.
 
2013-09-22 11:25:57 AM

AliceBToklasLives: Or he could do his research and donate it to the school doing the best research. $500 million there would probably do more than a billion at the school that's best at fundraising.


vwarb: /conditional charity donations are one of the sleaziest celebrity emotional manipulation techniques out there.


NutWrench: What a colossal asshole. If he wants to help people, he should do a little research and donate to the school that can put the money to the best possible use, not the school that has the best PR machine. This is all about HIM, not curing cancer.


davidshi123: Phil either donate the $500m to buy more legacy and slap your name on more buildings in Oregon because you know they'll be around longer than you and you can't take your money to the afterlife, or shut up. Conditional donations are pretty sleazy.


edmo: Gee, rich people now have a whole new way to tell us how compassionate and giving they are except the public institutions won't let them do it.



Yeah, that's what this is, Phil Knight coming up with another publicity stunt out of the blue and throwing a bunch of money at undeserving sycophants. Except that he isn't and OHSU aren't.

TFA: Just four or five months ago, Druker said Saturday, he approached Knight with a bold request: $1 billion for his institute to help, ultimately, cure cancer when it takes root, but also to detect and strike it before the disease spreads. This is what I think it will take, Druker remembered telling Knight. He wasn't going to be shy about dreaming big and being honest with the Knights about what he needed.

Fresh off a "recruiting bonanza" that helped OHSU pocket some of the brightest minds in the cancer research field, Druker said $1 billion would allow that brain trust to multiply.


OHSU, already renown for its research, asked for a billion dollars and this is his approach to doing that. RTFA before spouting off with your ignorant whiny bullshiat. Also...


RealXavori: Wow.  All the non-marketing Farkers have crawled out of the woodwork (your call on whether being called non-marketing is an insult, cuz really, it could either way)

By setting up his donation on contingency, Mr. Nike has given Oregon a huge marketing tool when they start having all their minimum wage college students start calling up all the alumni and other potential donors.  "Hey, if we can raise $500 million, we'll get another $500 million.  Won't you please help us reach our goal?"  And because people will see their dollars being not only good, cuz hey, who likes cancer, but they'll also see it as part of getting a huge donation on top of their little donation.

I suspect Oregon will have no problem at all getting their half of the money.  In fact, I'll go so far as to say they might very well get to the $1 billion before Mr Nike pitches in.  I also suspect, based on Mr. Nike's previous actions, he'll end up giving the school more than what he promised when it happens.


This.
 
2013-09-22 11:29:51 AM
That's too much money for one man. He should be ashamed. Think of the churlden.
 
2013-09-22 11:37:25 AM
One possible future: two years from now, a university and Phil Knight donates a combined billion dollars. Five years from now, there's still no cure for cancer.
 
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