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2013-09-22 08:01:37 AM
I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.
 
2013-09-22 08:21:19 AM
The time to buy is November 1-27th for Holiday release consumer electronics.
 
2013-09-22 08:24:01 AM
It's a social event. It's the one time they get to talk to other humans instead of looking at their phones.
 
2013-09-22 08:24:13 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


You can say the same thing about movies, video games, sporting events, amusement parks, and a whole mess of other things that won't change people's lives but they still line up for hours to get/see.
 
2013-09-22 08:24:57 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!
 
2013-09-22 08:45:54 AM
The lines are a marketing tool, and a damn good one at that.
 
2013-09-22 08:55:44 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


Well, unless you're some sort of pathetic loser that has the time to wait in line for a phone, and is gullible enough to think a new iteration of 10+ year old technology is worth lining up for.

/This one has panoramic camera!
//Panoramic!
///And an anti-flash thingy!
 
2013-09-22 08:58:56 AM
I waited for the first time ever this year.

I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.

Why did I do it? A combination of the following:
1) Too much caffeine the night before, so I just slept like hell... when you're up at 5am, making the 8am open is easy.
2) Friday is my day off and I just didn't have a bunch to do; I'd mowed the yard the day before, so really, what did it matter if I spent an hour and a half doing that?
3) My previous phone was really getting annoying- as new apps came out, it kept feeling slower. I'd been waiting to upgrade to the new one.
4) The pricing structure is such that you don't get a price break on the phone if you wait... it is the same price when they first go up for sale as it will be six months down the road... the same price it will be right up until the next one comes out in a year. So you save NOTHING by waiting, but instead end up paying more for a phone that has less time as the top of the heap... and therefore the date at which it will feel slower due to new apps being written for newer hardware is that much closer.
5) I'd have ordered online, but the shipping times being quoted were far enough out that it would likely show up when we were out of town... leading to a shipping/receiving snafu I didn't want to deal with.

So, in other words, it was because I wanted to and it was only a minor inconvenience to me and meant absolutely not one damn thing to anybody else. I didn't get it to show off, you wouldn't know I have the new one unless you held it in your hand and knew exactly what to look for. So there was no point in getting it for the acclaim of others. Nobody else cares. I did it because I wanted to, and I don't need another reason.

If you don't care if somebody got a new phone, why the fark would you care if they waited in line for it? That's some piss-poor apathy if somebody else waiting in line pisses you off.
 
2013-09-22 08:59:02 AM
For the same reason people line up for new console releases. There are some people who think they have to get their new toy as soon as possible.
 
2013-09-22 09:04:48 AM

PainInTheASP: The lines are a marketing tool


Also a tool, the people in the lines.

The only reason for this behavior is bragging rights of a mass-manufactured device in one's possession two days before someone else just walks right into the store and picks one up with no waiting.  That is beyond pathetic.  But its by no means isolated to Apple consumerism, I've a coupla rabid anti-Apple coworkers who waited in a line at midnight to pick up a videogame just this past monday.
 
2013-09-22 09:10:59 AM
The most I've ever waited in line for anything was an hour.  That was for concert tickets back in the old Harmony House days.
 
2013-09-22 09:12:12 AM
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2013-09-22 09:14:48 AM

akula: I waited for the first time ever this year.

I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.

Why did I do it? A combination of the following:
1) Too much caffeine the night before, so I just slept like hell... when you're up at 5am, making the 8am open is easy.
2) Friday is my day off and I just didn't have a bunch to do; I'd mowed the yard the day before, so really, what did it matter if I spent an hour and a half doing that?
3) My previous phone was really getting annoying- as new apps came out, it kept feeling slower. I'd been waiting to upgrade to the new one.
4) The pricing structure is such that you don't get a price break on the phone if you wait... it is the same price when they first go up for sale as it will be six months down the road... the same price it will be right up until the next one comes out in a year. So you save NOTHING by waiting, but instead end up paying more for a phone that has less time as the top of the heap... and therefore the date at which it will feel slower due to new apps being written for newer hardware is that much closer.
5) I'd have ordered online, but the shipping times being quoted were far enough out that it would likely show up when we were out of town... leading to a shipping/receiving snafu I didn't want to deal with.

So, in other words, it was because I wanted to and it was only a minor inconvenience to me and meant absolutely not one damn thing to anybody else. I didn't get it to show off, you wouldn't know I have the new one unless you held it in your hand and knew exactly what to look for. So there was no point in getting it for the acclaim of others. Nobody else cares. I did it because I wanted to, and I don't need another reason.

If you don't care if somebody got a new phone, why the fark would you care if they waited in line for it? That's some piss-poor apathy ...


1. I feel your pain.
2. What's a lawn? Other than a thing old people want me to off of, I mean.
3. My previous phone was a Galaxy S2.  It was still faster than an iPhone.  If only the battery hadn't been dying...
4. My new phone is a Galaxy S4.  I got in on the buy one get one free deal this summer.  Seems like I actually did benefit from waiting... (and oh ya, I still have a better phone than you so neener neener!)
5. I didn't have to wait in a line because Samsung is more interested in selling as many phones as they can rather than having these pointless media event customer lines.  (so Neener Neener 2: Electric Boogaloo)
 
2013-09-22 09:15:29 AM
I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.
 
2013-09-22 09:17:30 AM
Acting like Apple is the only company that A) Updates their flagship product on a yearly basis and B) people line up for at launch is maybe one of the most ridiculous assertions I have read today. But there's an NFL thread coming later on so there's still hope.
 
2013-09-22 09:35:30 AM
I think someone in these comments mentioned that iPhones (as opposed to other cell phones, I'm guessing) have become fungible assets, and drug dealers buy up as many as they can to launder their money and send them overseas where they can be resold.
 
2013-09-22 09:35:46 AM

cameroncrazy1984: I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.


I haven't, short of waiting the usual few minutes in line at the theater when there are people in front of you buying tickets.  I don't understand why people would do this.  It's also why I don't participate in Black Friday (arguably the most religious aspect of Christmas).  It's a friggin phone.  And it's not even a new phone.  It's just the next incremental version of the last phone.

I'm not saying people can't like things.  But why play a role in some marketing director's faux scarcity, hype-ramping game?  If they were waiting in line for a free phone I guess I could see it, but you're sleeping on the sidewalk for a shot at merely being one of the first to pay for something everyone else will also be paying for, but won't have to sleep on the sidewalk to get.  It's just stupid.
 
2013-09-22 09:36:24 AM
i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.
 
2013-09-22 10:19:38 AM
I just painted "6" on the back of my 5, so I'm getting a kick out of these early adopters.
 
2013-09-22 10:20:05 AM

timswar: You can say the same thing about movies, video games, sporting events, amusement parks, and a whole mess of other things that won't change people's lives but they still line up for hours to get/see.


Except that queueing up for sporting events is often about limited ticket availability, amusement parks are about getting on the first ride without a queue etc.

What I really, really don't understand is people queueing up or pre-ordering the next-gen consoles that are coming or the latest iPhones. In the past, the leap from one console to the next was big. The PS3 to PS4/Xbox 360 to XBONE is in Malibu Stacey territory.
 
2013-09-22 10:27:27 AM
Consumer electronics are so lame.
 
2013-09-22 10:29:05 AM

FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.


It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button. The slo-mo mode is fun too.
 
2013-09-22 10:35:57 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button.


i had no idea
 
2013-09-22 11:01:09 AM
Headline reminds me of a joke I recently read, has nothing to do with subject of the article:

"Did you realize that when you say the word "poop" your mouth is making the same motion as your anus does when you actually poop?  Interesting, isn't it?"
"Yes, and the same is true of the phrase "explosive diarrhea."
 
2013-09-22 11:08:20 AM

ajgeek: I think someone in these comments mentioned that iPhones (as opposed to other cell phones, I'm guessing) have become fungible assets, and drug dealers buy up as many as they can to launder their money and send them overseas where they can be resold.


Did you hear that from the same guy who explained that shoes on wires in bad neighborhoods means "drugs are sold here?"
 
2013-09-22 11:13:01 AM

FlashHarry: cameroncrazy1984: It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button.

i had no idea


Yep, and then in the roll it picks out the best one for you. It's not earth-shattering by any means, but it's very cool.
 
2013-09-22 11:26:15 AM

RealXavori: My previous phone was a Galaxy S2. It was still faster than an iPhone.


So your phone calls are shorter? Do people on the line sound like they're huffing helium?
 
2013-09-22 11:35:35 AM

akula: I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.


FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.


Hey, that's great!  You guys aren't part of the group that the author is talking about.  He's talking about people who have been standing in line for multiple hours, or perhaps days, to be one of the first to pick up a product that will be readily available to everyone in a couple/few weeks.  Of course this question has been answered already, and it boils down to these people value whatever product it is enough to wait in line.  That's the end of the story.  Whether they're consumer whores or technology geeks or retired millionaires with nothing better to do is up to the opinion of the general public.
 
2013-09-22 11:39:40 AM

FlashHarry: so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing


I'm just curious, when it's ten below in January, how does one go about answering the phone without taking gloves off?  I already had to get special gloves so I could answer my smartphone.
 
2013-09-22 11:43:06 AM

jaytkay: RealXavori: My previous phone was a Galaxy S2. It was still faster than an iPhone.

So your phone calls are shorter? Do people on the line sound like they're huffing helium?


Wait?  Phone calls?

I don't actually make phone calls on my phone.  I mean, that'd be silly.

Games.  Pictures.  Texting. Google docs. etc.  But no phone calls.
 
2013-09-22 11:43:24 AM
No matter if it's the Cronut

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The Ramen burger

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Or the iPhone

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Hipsters everywhere will queue to anything for a excessive period of time as long as it's "new and unique." (no matter if it's actually new and unique or just a small, incremental improvement [iPhone 5] over the previous version)
 
2013-09-22 11:58:43 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


...except that, for them, it does. You're looking at a subculture within which social status is determined by the length of time that owned hardware & software has existed. It's a combination of entitlement, engineered scarcity, manufactured need, and poor impulse control, and it's what drives everything from cash shops in MMOs to smartphone "subscription plans" by cellular carriers.

Be grateful they exist - they're driving the market for the rest of us. Be cautious, though - some of those idiots are making actual business decisions using the same friggin' decision trees.
 
2013-09-22 12:16:25 PM
We had to go to one of the Apple stores in ATL yesterday because the wife's iPad had no video. There was a line up of people and the place was packed.  I had already made an appointment but who ever set me up put it for last week. They got us in anyway, and on time.
I'm not a fan of the product, own the S3 myself, but the folks in the store are decent enough and try to get everything handled quickly and properly, so Apple does have that going for them.
 
2013-09-22 12:25:55 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: For the same reason people line up for new console releases. There are some people who think they have to get their new toy as soon as possible.


That's exactly it.  Toys.  It's childish at best.  While the boys were waiting in line their girlfriends were getting farked by a man.
 
2013-09-22 12:26:23 PM

Mugato: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!


This.

Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?
 
2013-09-22 12:28:14 PM

offmymeds: Mugato: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!

This.

Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?


The important thing is it can be used for a nipple identification scanner.
 
2013-09-22 12:35:52 PM

Githerax: Headline reminds me of a joke I recently read, has nothing to do with subject of the article:

"Did you realize that when you say the word "poop" your mouth is making the same motion as your anus does when you actually poop?  Interesting, isn't it?"
"Yes, and the same is true of the phrase "explosive diarrhea."


Now I am going to have nightmares of anus tongue and anus teeth.

/it's like that Oglaf what with the tentacles that came out of her hoo-ha
 
2013-09-22 12:38:10 PM
FormlessOne:You're looking at a subculture within which social status is determined by the length of time that owned hardware & software has existed.

I kinda feel the same way but in reverse.  The older something is, the better

New stuff.  Pshh.  They're still MAKING it.  How valuable can it be?  You can just buy a new one if you had to.
 
2013-09-22 12:41:28 PM

cameroncrazy1984: FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.

It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button. The slo-mo mode is fun too.


Multi exposure? Slo mo? So the iPhone has caught up with my HTC which has had those for ages?
 
2013-09-22 12:42:00 PM
People need to be first to get something that more likely than not has some manufacturing/software bug that will render the device nearly useless.
 
2013-09-22 12:45:27 PM

Flint Ironstag: cameroncrazy1984: FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.

It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button. The slo-mo mode is fun too.

Multi exposure? Slo mo? So the iPhone has caught up with my HTC which has had those for ages?

INVENTED those features.

Just thought I'd fix your error...
 
2013-09-22 12:47:51 PM
The only people douchier than those waiting days in line to buy something are the ones that go online to whine and complain about people that choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.
 
2013-09-22 12:50:34 PM
Can it also scan someone else's fingerprint off of a surface and then project it onto a fingerprint scanner to open a door because James Bond's phone did that in Tomorrow Never Dies and that like 16 years ago.
 
2013-09-22 12:53:23 PM

offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?


I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.
 
2013-09-22 12:54:54 PM

digistil: The only people douchier than those waiting days in line to buy something are the ones that go online to whine and complain about people that choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.


Who are trumped by the people who go online to whine and complain about the people who choose to spend a portion of their free time going online to whine and complain about people who choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.
 
2013-09-22 12:59:59 PM
I've often thought about the psychology of waiting in line for a new product launch (having worked several in my retail history), and I've come to realize it boils to three things.

1)  It gives them a story to tell the other people in their life so they can try to stand out. "I waited in line for X hours! Look how crazy I am!" is much more exciting than "I pre-ordered this on Amazon and it arrived today."

2)  It makes them feel less insecure about their loyalty to a brand or product. Being around a bunch of other "like-minded" people reinforces the cult aspects and provides a sense of pseudo-social interaction.

3)  It makes them feel like they're on the cutting edge of something. Of course, this is all perception; anything popular enough to attract enough attention to have a line isn't on the cutting edge; it's mass market. But reality and perception only overlap some of the time.

I also think that for some people, there's an addictive quality to this mentality because there is a rush of excitement when it's time for the line to start moving and the people who waited to get their product. It's kind of like delayed gratification (suffering to receive excitement), except it comes with the reward of being among the first to have something.
 
2013-09-22 01:03:37 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.


So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).
 
2013-09-22 01:06:43 PM

offmymeds: LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).


I don't know, I don't have a smartphone.  But I just assumed the fingerprint-scan was a layer of security meant to render the phone useless in the hands of a thief, in order to act as a deterrent.  Maybe it's harder to crack than a locking keypad.  But I wonder what someone does if they manage to cut their finger and render their fingerprint unrecognizable to the scanner.
 
2013-09-22 01:10:55 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.


Are stolen phones even worth anything? Aren't they easily traceable from the ID#, even track-able if the battery and simcard are in ?
 
2013-09-22 01:18:21 PM
Because people grow up with profound chasms in their personalities that they fill with superficial status symbols. Then they go home and cry into their pillow at night.
 
2013-09-22 01:21:00 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: But I wonder what someone does if they manage to cut their finger and render their fingerprint unrecognizable to the scanner.


you can enter multiple fingers. i've entered both thumbs and index fingers so i can open the phone with either hand. it works pretty flawlessly, actually.
 
2013-09-22 01:23:41 PM

FlashHarry: LouDobbsAwaaaay: But I wonder what someone does if they manage to cut their finger and render their fingerprint unrecognizable to the scanner.

you can enter multiple fingers. i've entered both thumbs and index fingers so i can open the phone with either hand. it works pretty flawlessly, actually.


Can you use your dong?  I'm asking, that means someone has already tried it...
 
2013-09-22 01:25:37 PM

Mugato: LouDobbsAwaaaay: I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

Are stolen phones even worth anything? Aren't they easily traceable from the ID#, even track-able if the battery and simcard are in ?


They are easy to ship overseas where they won't be traced and can be reactivated.
 
2013-09-22 01:26:09 PM

valkore: Hey, that's great!  You guys aren't part of the group that the author is talking about.  He's talking about people who have been standing in line for multiple hours, or perhaps days, to be one of the first to pick up a product that will be readily available to everyone in a couple/few weeks.


my point was, i didn't have to stand in a silly line, and i still got one on the day it was released. i agree that camping out for an iPhone is silly and, at least in my case, unnecessary.
 
2013-09-22 01:29:05 PM

Carth: Mugato: LouDobbsAwaaaay: I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

Are stolen phones even worth anything? Aren't they easily traceable from the ID#, even track-able if the battery and simcard are in ?

They are easy to ship overseas where they won't be traced and can be reactivated.


Ok. Seems like a lot of trouble though. The only way that would seem cost effective would be to hold up entire warehouses of them rather than stealing them one by one from users. And if they can do all that they should be able to find a way to defeat the fingerprint thing. But I dunno.
 
2013-09-22 01:36:31 PM

Mugato: Carth: Mugato: LouDobbsAwaaaay: I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

Are stolen phones even worth anything? Aren't they easily traceable from the ID#, even track-able if the battery and simcard are in ?

They are easy to ship overseas where they won't be traced and can be reactivated.

Ok. Seems like a lot of trouble though. The only way that would seem cost effective would be to hold up entire warehouses of them rather than stealing them one by one from users. And if they can do all that they should be able to find a way to defeat the fingerprint thing. But I dunno.


Not really. The places that buy stolen iphones from the thief for $100 know a guy who will pay them $150. That guy ends up with a few dozen that he smuggles into china/africa and sells them to retailers for $300 who sell them for $400. It has been going on for years.
 
2013-09-22 01:39:42 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.


I haven't. But then again, I can't remember the last time I went to a movie theater, and I'm not a "gamer".
 
2013-09-22 01:41:30 PM
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2013-09-22 02:01:36 PM

offmymeds: LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).



I still think we'll hear of jealous people unlocking their partners iPhone while they are asleep so they can check their texts and emails. All they have to do is hold the phone up to their partners finger.
 
2013-09-22 02:05:34 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).

I don't know, I don't have a smartphone.  But I just assumed the fingerprint-scan was a layer of security meant to render the phone useless in the hands of a thief, in order to act as a deterrent.  Maybe it's harder to crack than a locking keypad.  But I wonder what someone does if they manage to cut their finger and render their fingerprint unrecognizable to the scanner.


You have to set up a pass code as well. So you can just go back to unlocking the phone that way. I actually think it is a good idea if it works as well as it appears to. I'm happy with my HTCs pattern unlock as that can unlock the phone in an instant but if someone watches you do it a few times they could work out the pattern.

/But at least my girlfriend can't unlock my phone with my finger while I'm asleep.
//Who am I kidding, I'm a farker so I haven't got a girlfriend...
 
2013-09-22 02:11:18 PM
I walked into AT&T yesterday to get my mom a feature phone (she did NOT want to get a smartphone, too much tech, old lady, etc.) and there was a nine person wait. Mom impatient so we left.

I walked into T-Mobile to get my sister a iPhone 5S. Store empty. Walked right up and went through purchase ($700 fricking dollars...) and walked out in 10-15 minutes.

Sister loves her phone. Going to try again for my mom or just go to WalMart. She has a GoPhone and she wants this cheapo phone for like $30 bucks.
 
2013-09-22 02:16:02 PM
Doesn't most of it boil down to the desire to have the new "thing" first, so that you can brag to your friends, family and Internet strangers for a day or a week or whatever until most or all of the people that might give a crap also have the new thing.  Early on, there's always a limit on the new thing, whether artificial or otherwise, so if you aren't willing to stand in line at release, you'll have to wait for a day, week or whatever until more are available.

I'm not saying I've ever or would ever wait outside a store on launch day for some gadget, but if that's where someone derives his or her pleasure, then I say go for it.  Be happy.  Get high on excitement.  Just don't expect me to care about it.
 
2013-09-22 02:19:21 PM
Remember those halycon days of the stead drip Windows OS releases?
 
2013-09-22 02:25:33 PM

offmymeds: So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).


I rip on Apple all the time but I would love a reliable fingerprint scanner instead of having to type in a stupid code. No, it's not that hard but it can definitely feel like a nuisance. Unless it turns out someone can bypass this thing easily, it's definitely at least a nice option to have.
 
2013-09-22 02:30:40 PM

offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?


Yeah, no.  It's not a f*ckin' phone anymore.  It's damn near the equivalent of a laptop and, get this gramps, people do banking with them, trade stocks, send e-mail and all kinds of stuff.  The future is an amazing place.

My laptop has a fingerprint scanner and I find it fast and easier than typing my password everything the screen goes to sleep.
 
2013-09-22 02:43:40 PM

relaxitsjustme: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

Yeah, no.  It's not a f*ckin' phone anymore.  It's damn near the equivalent of a laptop and, get this gramps, people do banking with them, trade stocks, send e-mail and all kinds of stuff.  The future is an amazing place.

My laptop has a fingerprint scanner and I find it fast and easier than typing my password everything the screen goes to sleep.


And of course "The internet of things" is going to be such a bright, utopian future where all the megacorps will have your best interests at heart, as they always have, for decades. No way they could possibly screw up having everything connected and everyone sharing everything about everyone, how could that possibly go wrong?
 
2013-09-22 02:45:05 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: It's a friggin phone. And it's not even a new phone. It's just the next incremental version of the last phone.


Are you saying it makes more sense to stand in line for a 100% new phone that nobody's tried before, as opposed folks waiting for the latest-and-greatest model of a phone (or any device, really) with a proven track record?

I'm not one to stand in lines, for this or anything else ... but if I were going to, it would be for an upgrade to a proven product, and not something that's "new", with only marketing materials to back it up.
 
2013-09-22 02:46:22 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Who are trumped by the people who go online to whine and complain about the people who choose to spend a portion of their free time going online to whine and complain about people who choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.


You can't fool me - it's douchebags all the way down!
 
2013-09-22 02:50:01 PM

relaxitsjustme: It's not a f*ckin' phone anymore.  It's damn near the equivalent of a laptop


If you bought a "laptop" aka notebook computer and it had a screen the size of an iphone with the same processing power, you'd be farking outraged at being so ripped off.

Even a shiat-ass-chromebook kicks an iphone's ass for many, many things.  As it should, because it's bigger.  Different tools for different jobs.  Don't hand me a swiss army knife and say it's great for hacking through the undergrowth.
 
2013-09-22 02:54:46 PM

Bacontastesgood: relaxitsjustme: It's not a f*ckin' phone anymore.  It's damn near the equivalent of a laptop

If you bought a "laptop" aka notebook computer and it had a screen the size of an iphone with the same processing power, you'd be farking outraged at being so ripped off.

Even a shiat-ass-chromebook kicks an iphone's ass for many, many things.  As it should, because it's bigger.  Different tools for different jobs.  Don't hand me a swiss army knife and say it's great for hacking through the undergrowth.


fark you.  I bought a Swiss Army knife and I use it to trim my bush all the time.  It's got a built-in razor and a tiny pair of scissors, and what else am I going to do when I'm crapping at work?
 
2013-09-22 02:55:10 PM

timswar: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

You can say the same thing about movies, video games, sporting events, amusement parks, and a whole mess of other things that won't change people's lives but they still line up for hours to get/see.


This right here.

If you've ever attended the midnight release of a movie or video game, you have no room to make fun of Apple FanBoys.
 
2013-09-22 02:57:33 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.


I guess I should read the entire thread before posting.   Lesson learned.
 
2013-09-22 02:58:26 PM

Bacontastesgood: relaxitsjustme: It's not a f*ckin' phone anymore.  It's damn near the equivalent of a laptop

If you bought a "laptop" aka notebook computer and it had a screen the size of an iphone with the same processing power, you'd be farking outraged at being so ripped off.

Even a shiat-ass-chromebook kicks an iphone's ass for many, many things.  As it should, because it's bigger.  Different tools for different jobs.  Don't hand me a swiss army knife and say it's great for hacking through the undergrowth.


And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
 
2013-09-22 03:00:08 PM
People line up for a table at Cheesecake Factory.  Don't see a thread mocking them
 
2013-09-22 03:09:45 PM

Whiskey Dickens: ajgeek: I think someone in these comments mentioned that iPhones (as opposed to other cell phones, I'm guessing) have become fungible assets, and drug dealers buy up as many as they can to launder their money and send them overseas where they can be resold.

Did you hear that from the same guy who explained that shoes on wires in bad neighborhoods means "drugs are sold here?"


thetwist03.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-22 03:10:58 PM

Saul T. Balzac: cameroncrazy1984: I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.

I guess I should read the entire thread before posting.   Lesson learned.


I lined up for a half hour for The Phantom Menace and I'm not nearly as defensive about that as the people in this thread. And yes, I was with a girl at the time, ASSHOLE!
 
2013-09-22 03:20:44 PM
DarkSoulNoHope:
Hipsters everywhere will queue to anything for a excessive period of time as long as it's "new and unique." (no matter if it's actually new and unique or just a small, incremental improvement [iPhone 5] over the previous version)

I'm willing to bet not everyone in those lines had an iPhone 5 (or whatever the previous version was) and were just wanting an incremental upgrades. Some may have had a 3 or 4 series iPhone.  Maybe they were in the market for a new phone for a while now and just decided to wait it out until the newest iPhone came out so they could get the newest phone for the same amount of money.

Some of you need to get off your technological high horses and let ordinary consumers just buy what they want, even if it's not what you would buy for yourself.  For most folks, an iPhone meets or exceeds their requirements.  If it doesn't do that for you, feel free to buy something else.
 
2013-09-22 04:44:08 PM
Why do people  [with lots of disposable income]  still wait in line for the new iPhone?


because they've never used an Android device.
 
2013-09-22 04:45:05 PM
Cattle going to the slaughterhouse wait in lines too.


be smart.  go Android.
 
2013-09-22 04:46:16 PM

offmymeds: Mugato: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!

This.

Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?



you don't.

all you have to do it market well enough to convince idiots that they need a finger print scanner.   and the idiots will believe it.
 
2013-09-22 04:51:14 PM

EngineerAU: It's a social event. It's the one time they get to talk to other humans instead of looking at their phones.



its nice to compare penis photos too.  from what i've heard.

be smart.  go Android.
 
2013-09-22 04:54:15 PM
I read that Steve Jobs was buried with an iphone so he could text about the afterlife.  how do they upgrade his iphone??  digging him back up is not appropriate.

thoughts anyone??
 
2013-09-22 04:58:13 PM

RealXavori: akula: I waited for the first time ever this year.

I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.

Why did I do it? A combination of the following:
1) Too much caffeine the night before, so I just slept like hell... when you're up at 5am, making the 8am open is easy.
2) Friday is my day off and I just didn't have a bunch to do; I'd mowed the yard the day before, so really, what did it matter if I spent an hour and a half doing that?
3) My previous phone was really getting annoying- as new apps came out, it kept feeling slower. I'd been waiting to upgrade to the new one.
4) The pricing structure is such that you don't get a price break on the phone if you wait... it is the same price when they first go up for sale as it will be six months down the road... the same price it will be right up until the next one comes out in a year. So you save NOTHING by waiting, but instead end up paying more for a phone that has less time as the top of the heap... and therefore the date at which it will feel slower due to new apps being written for newer hardware is that much closer.
5) I'd have ordered online, but the shipping times being quoted were far enough out that it would likely show up when we were out of town... leading to a shipping/receiving snafu I didn't want to deal with.

So, in other words, it was because I wanted to and it was only a minor inconvenience to me and meant absolutely not one damn thing to anybody else. I didn't get it to show off, you wouldn't know I have the new one unless you held it in your hand and knew exactly what to look for. So there was no point in getting it for the acclaim of others. Nobody else cares. I did it because I wanted to, and I don't need another reason.

If you don't care if somebody got a new phone, why the fark would you care if they waited in line for it? That's some piss-poor ...



ahhhh, well done grasshopper.   take this Android and may it serve you well.    iphone is a tad bit overrated.
 
2013-09-22 06:08:12 PM

Linux_Yes: I read that Steve Jobs was buried with an iphone so he could text about the afterlife.  how do they upgrade his iphone??  digging him back up is not appropriate.

thoughts anyone??


Pneumatic tube through his coffin.
 
2013-09-22 07:36:54 PM

Linux_Yes: Why do people  [with lots of disposable income]  still wait in line for the new iPhone?


because they've never used an Android device.


i dont believe thats necessarily true.  When, i went from my 3gs to something new, i tried an Android platform for a couple of weeks, but just didnt like the phone or OS.  i returned it and got a 4 (around the same time the 5 came out).

amazing that different people have different personal tastes huh?
 
2013-09-22 09:50:41 PM

Linux_Yes: offmymeds: Mugato: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!

This.

Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?


you don't.

all you have to do it market well enough to convince idiots that they need a finger print scanner.   and the idiots will believe it.


Well, the fingerprint security has been hacked already. UFIA
 
2013-09-22 10:11:40 PM

FormlessOne: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

...except that, for them, it does. You're looking at a subculture within which social status is determined by the length of time that owned hardware & software has existed. It's a combination of entitlement, engineered scarcity, manufactured need, and poor impulse control, and it's what drives everything from cash shops in MMOs to smartphone "subscription plans" by cellular carriers.

Be grateful they exist - they're driving the market for the rest of us. Be cautious, though - some of those idiots are making actual business decisions using the same friggin' decision trees.


Fark account numbers.
 
2013-09-22 11:49:05 PM
Wow, look at all these straw men, lying destroyed on the Astroturf.
 
2013-09-22 11:52:45 PM

Whiskey Dickens: ajgeek: I think someone in these comments mentioned that iPhones (as opposed to other cell phones, I'm guessing) have become fungible assets, and drug dealers buy up as many as they can to launder their money and send them overseas where they can be resold.

Did you hear that from the same guy who explained that shoes on wires in bad neighborhoods means "drugs are sold here?"


THAT explains why the local hospital in a business neighborhood had shoes hanging over the wires running overhead parallel to the curb.
 
2013-09-23 12:04:20 AM

cameroncrazy1984: I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.


Not since Amazon. The last game I think I waited for with bated breath was Ocarina of Time.
 
2013-09-23 12:05:30 AM

AngryDragon:


Good Guy Greg STRONGLY disapproves.
 
2013-09-23 12:35:32 AM
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People are willing to wait in line 45 minutes for a $5 loaf of bread. The fact that they'd wait 24 hours in line for the latest gadget should hardly be a surprise.
 
2013-09-23 12:38:56 AM
Hell, I see gigantic lines in Chipolte every day in the financial district - people will wait for anything.
 
2013-09-23 12:43:41 AM
Is this where android users try to show how smart they are by talking crap about iPhone users?

Look at me, droid has 4 versions of the same damn phone with 4 different operating systems all of which can't be updated unless my carrier wants to release it. But they never do because they force me to buy another phone. But hey droid rules!!!!
 
2013-09-23 01:06:00 AM

Bigedmond: Look at me, droid has 4 versions of the same damn phone with 4 different operating systems all of which can't be updated unless my carrier wants to release it.


You most certainly can update the OS prior to a push from your carrier, you just might have to do it yourself rather than have it automatically done.

/the carrier shiat is annoying, its why I got a nexus when it came out and will probably upgrade to the new one when it comes out - vanilla android = no waiting for your carrier/phone designer to upgrade their bloatware.
 
2013-09-23 03:27:37 AM
BUT BUT, I HAVE TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO GET IT OR ALL MY FRIENDS AT THE DANCE CLUB WILL LAUGH AT ME FOR NOT BEING COOL ENOUGH!
 
2013-09-23 08:32:15 AM

Bacontastesgood: relaxitsjustme: It's not a f*ckin' phone anymore.  It's damn near the equivalent of a laptop

If you bought a "laptop" aka notebook computer and it had a screen the size of an iphone with the same processing power, you'd be farking outraged at being so ripped off.

Even a shiat-ass-chromebook kicks an iphone's ass for many, many things.  As it should, because it's bigger.  Different tools for different jobs.  Don't hand me a swiss army knife and say it's great for hacking through the undergrowth.


I have an iPad and a laptop and still read on my iPhone more than anything else. I can read it in bed in any position, I can read it during commercials without fighting the cat off a laptop because its warm, etc. I loved my laptop when I first got one. Now it's a last resort. It just isn't as good for reading, which is at leaat 75% of what I do on gadgets.

Laptops are for MMOs, photoshop, and websites with broken mobile versions now.
 
2013-09-23 09:34:21 AM

BiblioTech: FlashHarry: so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing

I'm just curious, when it's ten below in January, how does one go about answering the phone without taking gloves off?  I already had to get special gloves so I could answer my smartphone.


Don't bring your phone out when it's freezing cold until you are inside.  That's like people that use their phone when it's raining, put the thing away till you are inside.
 
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