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2013-09-22 08:01:37 AM
I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.
 
2013-09-22 08:21:19 AM
The time to buy is November 1-27th for Holiday release consumer electronics.
 
2013-09-22 08:24:01 AM
It's a social event. It's the one time they get to talk to other humans instead of looking at their phones.
 
2013-09-22 08:24:13 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


You can say the same thing about movies, video games, sporting events, amusement parks, and a whole mess of other things that won't change people's lives but they still line up for hours to get/see.
 
2013-09-22 08:24:57 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!
 
2013-09-22 08:45:54 AM
The lines are a marketing tool, and a damn good one at that.
 
2013-09-22 08:55:44 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


Well, unless you're some sort of pathetic loser that has the time to wait in line for a phone, and is gullible enough to think a new iteration of 10+ year old technology is worth lining up for.

/This one has panoramic camera!
//Panoramic!
///And an anti-flash thingy!
 
2013-09-22 08:58:56 AM
I waited for the first time ever this year.

I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.

Why did I do it? A combination of the following:
1) Too much caffeine the night before, so I just slept like hell... when you're up at 5am, making the 8am open is easy.
2) Friday is my day off and I just didn't have a bunch to do; I'd mowed the yard the day before, so really, what did it matter if I spent an hour and a half doing that?
3) My previous phone was really getting annoying- as new apps came out, it kept feeling slower. I'd been waiting to upgrade to the new one.
4) The pricing structure is such that you don't get a price break on the phone if you wait... it is the same price when they first go up for sale as it will be six months down the road... the same price it will be right up until the next one comes out in a year. So you save NOTHING by waiting, but instead end up paying more for a phone that has less time as the top of the heap... and therefore the date at which it will feel slower due to new apps being written for newer hardware is that much closer.
5) I'd have ordered online, but the shipping times being quoted were far enough out that it would likely show up when we were out of town... leading to a shipping/receiving snafu I didn't want to deal with.

So, in other words, it was because I wanted to and it was only a minor inconvenience to me and meant absolutely not one damn thing to anybody else. I didn't get it to show off, you wouldn't know I have the new one unless you held it in your hand and knew exactly what to look for. So there was no point in getting it for the acclaim of others. Nobody else cares. I did it because I wanted to, and I don't need another reason.

If you don't care if somebody got a new phone, why the fark would you care if they waited in line for it? That's some piss-poor apathy if somebody else waiting in line pisses you off.
 
2013-09-22 08:59:02 AM
For the same reason people line up for new console releases. There are some people who think they have to get their new toy as soon as possible.
 
2013-09-22 09:04:48 AM

PainInTheASP: The lines are a marketing tool


Also a tool, the people in the lines.

The only reason for this behavior is bragging rights of a mass-manufactured device in one's possession two days before someone else just walks right into the store and picks one up with no waiting.  That is beyond pathetic.  But its by no means isolated to Apple consumerism, I've a coupla rabid anti-Apple coworkers who waited in a line at midnight to pick up a videogame just this past monday.
 
2013-09-22 09:10:59 AM
The most I've ever waited in line for anything was an hour.  That was for concert tickets back in the old Harmony House days.
 
2013-09-22 09:12:12 AM
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2013-09-22 09:14:48 AM

akula: I waited for the first time ever this year.

I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.

Why did I do it? A combination of the following:
1) Too much caffeine the night before, so I just slept like hell... when you're up at 5am, making the 8am open is easy.
2) Friday is my day off and I just didn't have a bunch to do; I'd mowed the yard the day before, so really, what did it matter if I spent an hour and a half doing that?
3) My previous phone was really getting annoying- as new apps came out, it kept feeling slower. I'd been waiting to upgrade to the new one.
4) The pricing structure is such that you don't get a price break on the phone if you wait... it is the same price when they first go up for sale as it will be six months down the road... the same price it will be right up until the next one comes out in a year. So you save NOTHING by waiting, but instead end up paying more for a phone that has less time as the top of the heap... and therefore the date at which it will feel slower due to new apps being written for newer hardware is that much closer.
5) I'd have ordered online, but the shipping times being quoted were far enough out that it would likely show up when we were out of town... leading to a shipping/receiving snafu I didn't want to deal with.

So, in other words, it was because I wanted to and it was only a minor inconvenience to me and meant absolutely not one damn thing to anybody else. I didn't get it to show off, you wouldn't know I have the new one unless you held it in your hand and knew exactly what to look for. So there was no point in getting it for the acclaim of others. Nobody else cares. I did it because I wanted to, and I don't need another reason.

If you don't care if somebody got a new phone, why the fark would you care if they waited in line for it? That's some piss-poor apathy ...


1. I feel your pain.
2. What's a lawn? Other than a thing old people want me to off of, I mean.
3. My previous phone was a Galaxy S2.  It was still faster than an iPhone.  If only the battery hadn't been dying...
4. My new phone is a Galaxy S4.  I got in on the buy one get one free deal this summer.  Seems like I actually did benefit from waiting... (and oh ya, I still have a better phone than you so neener neener!)
5. I didn't have to wait in a line because Samsung is more interested in selling as many phones as they can rather than having these pointless media event customer lines.  (so Neener Neener 2: Electric Boogaloo)
 
2013-09-22 09:15:29 AM
I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.
 
2013-09-22 09:17:30 AM
Acting like Apple is the only company that A) Updates their flagship product on a yearly basis and B) people line up for at launch is maybe one of the most ridiculous assertions I have read today. But there's an NFL thread coming later on so there's still hope.
 
2013-09-22 09:35:30 AM
I think someone in these comments mentioned that iPhones (as opposed to other cell phones, I'm guessing) have become fungible assets, and drug dealers buy up as many as they can to launder their money and send them overseas where they can be resold.
 
2013-09-22 09:35:46 AM

cameroncrazy1984: I bet nobody in this thread ever lined up for Batman, Star Wars, or the midnight release of a video game. NOBODY.


I haven't, short of waiting the usual few minutes in line at the theater when there are people in front of you buying tickets.  I don't understand why people would do this.  It's also why I don't participate in Black Friday (arguably the most religious aspect of Christmas).  It's a friggin phone.  And it's not even a new phone.  It's just the next incremental version of the last phone.

I'm not saying people can't like things.  But why play a role in some marketing director's faux scarcity, hype-ramping game?  If they were waiting in line for a free phone I guess I could see it, but you're sleeping on the sidewalk for a shot at merely being one of the first to pay for something everyone else will also be paying for, but won't have to sleep on the sidewalk to get.  It's just stupid.
 
2013-09-22 09:36:24 AM
i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.
 
2013-09-22 10:19:38 AM
I just painted "6" on the back of my 5, so I'm getting a kick out of these early adopters.
 
2013-09-22 10:20:05 AM

timswar: You can say the same thing about movies, video games, sporting events, amusement parks, and a whole mess of other things that won't change people's lives but they still line up for hours to get/see.


Except that queueing up for sporting events is often about limited ticket availability, amusement parks are about getting on the first ride without a queue etc.

What I really, really don't understand is people queueing up or pre-ordering the next-gen consoles that are coming or the latest iPhones. In the past, the leap from one console to the next was big. The PS3 to PS4/Xbox 360 to XBONE is in Malibu Stacey territory.
 
2013-09-22 10:27:27 AM
Consumer electronics are so lame.
 
2013-09-22 10:29:05 AM

FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.


It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button. The slo-mo mode is fun too.
 
2013-09-22 10:35:57 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button.


i had no idea
 
2013-09-22 11:01:09 AM
Headline reminds me of a joke I recently read, has nothing to do with subject of the article:

"Did you realize that when you say the word "poop" your mouth is making the same motion as your anus does when you actually poop?  Interesting, isn't it?"
"Yes, and the same is true of the phrase "explosive diarrhea."
 
2013-09-22 11:08:20 AM

ajgeek: I think someone in these comments mentioned that iPhones (as opposed to other cell phones, I'm guessing) have become fungible assets, and drug dealers buy up as many as they can to launder their money and send them overseas where they can be resold.


Did you hear that from the same guy who explained that shoes on wires in bad neighborhoods means "drugs are sold here?"
 
2013-09-22 11:13:01 AM

FlashHarry: cameroncrazy1984: It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button.

i had no idea


Yep, and then in the roll it picks out the best one for you. It's not earth-shattering by any means, but it's very cool.
 
2013-09-22 11:26:15 AM

RealXavori: My previous phone was a Galaxy S2. It was still faster than an iPhone.


So your phone calls are shorter? Do people on the line sound like they're huffing helium?
 
2013-09-22 11:35:35 AM

akula: I got to the local AT&T store about 15 minutes before it was scheduled to open. I was around the 20th person or so there. It took an hour and a half from when I arrived to when I left, new 5S in hand.


FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.


Hey, that's great!  You guys aren't part of the group that the author is talking about.  He's talking about people who have been standing in line for multiple hours, or perhaps days, to be one of the first to pick up a product that will be readily available to everyone in a couple/few weeks.  Of course this question has been answered already, and it boils down to these people value whatever product it is enough to wait in line.  That's the end of the story.  Whether they're consumer whores or technology geeks or retired millionaires with nothing better to do is up to the opinion of the general public.
 
2013-09-22 11:39:40 AM

FlashHarry: so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing


I'm just curious, when it's ten below in January, how does one go about answering the phone without taking gloves off?  I already had to get special gloves so I could answer my smartphone.
 
2013-09-22 11:43:06 AM

jaytkay: RealXavori: My previous phone was a Galaxy S2. It was still faster than an iPhone.

So your phone calls are shorter? Do people on the line sound like they're huffing helium?


Wait?  Phone calls?

I don't actually make phone calls on my phone.  I mean, that'd be silly.

Games.  Pictures.  Texting. Google docs. etc.  But no phone calls.
 
2013-09-22 11:43:24 AM
No matter if it's the Cronut

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The Ramen burger

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Or the iPhone

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Hipsters everywhere will queue to anything for a excessive period of time as long as it's "new and unique." (no matter if it's actually new and unique or just a small, incremental improvement [iPhone 5] over the previous version)
 
2013-09-22 11:58:43 AM

sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.


...except that, for them, it does. You're looking at a subculture within which social status is determined by the length of time that owned hardware & software has existed. It's a combination of entitlement, engineered scarcity, manufactured need, and poor impulse control, and it's what drives everything from cash shops in MMOs to smartphone "subscription plans" by cellular carriers.

Be grateful they exist - they're driving the market for the rest of us. Be cautious, though - some of those idiots are making actual business decisions using the same friggin' decision trees.
 
2013-09-22 12:16:25 PM
We had to go to one of the Apple stores in ATL yesterday because the wife's iPad had no video. There was a line up of people and the place was packed.  I had already made an appointment but who ever set me up put it for last week. They got us in anyway, and on time.
I'm not a fan of the product, own the S3 myself, but the folks in the store are decent enough and try to get everything handled quickly and properly, so Apple does have that going for them.
 
2013-09-22 12:25:55 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: For the same reason people line up for new console releases. There are some people who think they have to get their new toy as soon as possible.


That's exactly it.  Toys.  It's childish at best.  While the boys were waiting in line their girlfriends were getting farked by a man.
 
2013-09-22 12:26:23 PM

Mugato: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!


This.

Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?
 
2013-09-22 12:28:14 PM

offmymeds: Mugato: sammyk: I have no idea subby but I loathe Apple product releases. At least they are solid proof that making fun of Apple fanboys is completely justified. It's a phone FFS, it's not going to change your life.

But it comes in different colors! And it has a fingerprint scanner to secure all your important top secret pictures of your cat!

This.

Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?


The important thing is it can be used for a nipple identification scanner.
 
2013-09-22 12:35:52 PM

Githerax: Headline reminds me of a joke I recently read, has nothing to do with subject of the article:

"Did you realize that when you say the word "poop" your mouth is making the same motion as your anus does when you actually poop?  Interesting, isn't it?"
"Yes, and the same is true of the phrase "explosive diarrhea."


Now I am going to have nightmares of anus tongue and anus teeth.

/it's like that Oglaf what with the tentacles that came out of her hoo-ha
 
2013-09-22 12:38:10 PM
FormlessOne:You're looking at a subculture within which social status is determined by the length of time that owned hardware & software has existed.

I kinda feel the same way but in reverse.  The older something is, the better

New stuff.  Pshh.  They're still MAKING it.  How valuable can it be?  You can just buy a new one if you had to.
 
2013-09-22 12:41:28 PM

cameroncrazy1984: FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.

It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button. The slo-mo mode is fun too.


Multi exposure? Slo mo? So the iPhone has caught up with my HTC which has had those for ages?
 
2013-09-22 12:42:00 PM
People need to be first to get something that more likely than not has some manufacturing/software bug that will render the device nearly useless.
 
2013-09-22 12:45:27 PM

Flint Ironstag: cameroncrazy1984: FlashHarry: i didn't line up for anything. i walked into an AT&T store on a whim and upgraded to a 5S. the whole thing took about 20 minutes.

so far, awesome phone. love the fingerprint thing. and the camera is very nice.

It took me a few 30-exposure shots to remember that the thing takes pictures for as long as you hold your finger on the button. The slo-mo mode is fun too.

Multi exposure? Slo mo? So the iPhone has caught up with my HTC which has had those for ages?

INVENTED those features.

Just thought I'd fix your error...
 
2013-09-22 12:47:51 PM
The only people douchier than those waiting days in line to buy something are the ones that go online to whine and complain about people that choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.
 
2013-09-22 12:50:34 PM
Can it also scan someone else's fingerprint off of a surface and then project it onto a fingerprint scanner to open a door because James Bond's phone did that in Tomorrow Never Dies and that like 16 years ago.
 
2013-09-22 12:53:23 PM

offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?


I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.
 
2013-09-22 12:54:54 PM

digistil: The only people douchier than those waiting days in line to buy something are the ones that go online to whine and complain about people that choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.


Who are trumped by the people who go online to whine and complain about the people who choose to spend a portion of their free time going online to whine and complain about people who choose to spend a portion of their free time waiting in line to buy something.
 
2013-09-22 12:59:59 PM
I've often thought about the psychology of waiting in line for a new product launch (having worked several in my retail history), and I've come to realize it boils to three things.

1)  It gives them a story to tell the other people in their life so they can try to stand out. "I waited in line for X hours! Look how crazy I am!" is much more exciting than "I pre-ordered this on Amazon and it arrived today."

2)  It makes them feel less insecure about their loyalty to a brand or product. Being around a bunch of other "like-minded" people reinforces the cult aspects and provides a sense of pseudo-social interaction.

3)  It makes them feel like they're on the cutting edge of something. Of course, this is all perception; anything popular enough to attract enough attention to have a line isn't on the cutting edge; it's mass market. But reality and perception only overlap some of the time.

I also think that for some people, there's an addictive quality to this mentality because there is a rush of excitement when it's time for the line to start moving and the people who waited to get their product. It's kind of like delayed gratification (suffering to receive excitement), except it comes with the reward of being among the first to have something.
 
2013-09-22 01:03:37 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.


So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).
 
2013-09-22 01:06:43 PM

offmymeds: LouDobbsAwaaaay: offmymeds: Seriously, a finger print scanner? It's a f*ckin' phone for chrissake! How much tech do you really need for a f*uckin' phone?

I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.

So there's nothing like a locking keypad to keep from whoever finds/steals it from using it? Seriously I don't keep up with this kind of stuff very much (if at all).


I don't know, I don't have a smartphone.  But I just assumed the fingerprint-scan was a layer of security meant to render the phone useless in the hands of a thief, in order to act as a deterrent.  Maybe it's harder to crack than a locking keypad.  But I wonder what someone does if they manage to cut their finger and render their fingerprint unrecognizable to the scanner.
 
2013-09-22 01:10:55 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: I assumed it was an attempt to cut down on theft of the device.


Are stolen phones even worth anything? Aren't they easily traceable from the ID#, even track-able if the battery and simcard are in ?
 
2013-09-22 01:18:21 PM
Because people grow up with profound chasms in their personalities that they fill with superficial status symbols. Then they go home and cry into their pillow at night.
 
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