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(Think Progress)   Rep. Darrel Issa, in his quest for the absolute truth about Benghazi, may have sorta kinda possibly slightly accidentally forgot to invite the Democrats on the Oversight to join him on his fact-finding trip to Libya   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 499
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2013-09-21 05:08:35 PM

Aristocles: vygramul: Heliovdrake: freak7: keylock71: Lol... This is what you clods remind me of:

LOL you're incapable of admitting that the Obama administration made any mistakes related to Benghazi.

Oh this will be good.

Exactly what mistakes were made.
Show your work.

[www.bitlogic.com image 536x600]

someonegottoldohsnap.jpg


Yeah they did! Wait, what?
 
2013-09-21 05:08:50 PM

vygramul: the_dude_abides: vygramul: [www.bitlogic.com image 536x600]

lol this is the most debunked pile of shiat ever, that report says AQ's gonna attack the US in the broadest terms possible, there's nothing specific or actionable in there. what could have been done at that point that would have possibly prevented the hijackings that happened on 9/11? a general alert? there was no precedent for those attacks because nobody expected THAT scenario. it's the worst kind of monday morning quarterbacking to suggest otherwise.

It's a fake I made based on this:

[i.cdn.turner.com image 560x687]



LOL, nice!
 
2013-09-21 05:09:28 PM

vygramul: the_dude_abides: vygramul: [i.cdn.turner.com image 560x687]

well that's embarrassing... my bad

Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.


Will his "conservative" account be embarrassed, his "liberal" account or his regular account?
 
2013-09-21 05:11:02 PM

freak7: The Obama administration won't even admit to erroneously blaming the attack on an internet video or that when they initially briefed the country, that they were withholding known facts, but hey, they're totally telling the truth about everything else.


So, even assuming you're 110% right here, let look at this.

The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.
 
2013-09-21 05:11:10 PM
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netcentric: The Democrats wouldn't even stay in the hearings to listen to the families of those who died.    You really think they would go along on a trip to Libya...

They had a year to go if they chose.

Democrats are looking pretty bad these days.


They are looking a little worse for wear. Like a car left outdoors in the elements. The chrome is looking a little rusty and the paint has lost its luster. Unfortunately for all of us, the alternative is to drive manure truck that's on fire with no steering wheel, seat belt or brakes.
 
2013-09-21 05:15:17 PM

freak7: The Obama administration won't even admit to erroneously blaming the attack on an internet video or that when they initially briefed the country, that they were withholding known facts, but hey, they're totally telling the truth about everything else.


You're mad that the CIA is withholding facts that might damage national security? You've got to be kidding me.
 
2013-09-21 05:16:48 PM

Mrtraveler01: To think:

If Romney wasn't such a disaster in foreign policy and royally bungled his handling of Benghazi, then the GOP wouldn't have to keep this phony controversy going by trying to make Obama look bad compared to Romney when it comes to foreign policy.

Now it just sounds like sour grapes.



www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com
 
2013-09-21 05:17:28 PM

netcentric: The Democrats wouldn't even stay in the hearings to listen to the families of those who died.    You really think they would go along on a trip to Libya...

They had a year to go if they chose.

Democrats are looking pretty bad these days.


This is bad news . . . for Obama!
 
2013-09-21 05:19:59 PM

vygramul: Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.


ok so first off, i flipped my lid thinking it was the 9/11 memo and that was obviously stupid. but you really can't compare the two. a warning about an attack on a consulate gives you a much narrower search area. look what happened a few weeks ago, there was chatter from AQ militants threatening attacks and they pulled all the personnel out of all the embassies in the middle east. that's because there's only a handful of "at risk" targets to consider, whereas a memo that says "hey, AQ wants to strike the US" could mean a gazillion things. little can be done beyond a general elevated posture. it's not the same thing, not even the same ballpark IMO.
 
2013-09-21 05:20:31 PM
Issa is wasting money on stupid useless crap like this, but some people are whining about Obama spending money on vacations.
 
2013-09-21 05:23:30 PM

the_dude_abides: vygramul: Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.

ok so first off, i flipped my lid thinking it was the 9/11 memo and that was obviously stupid. but you really can't compare the two. a warning about an attack on a consulate gives you a much narrower search area. look what happened a few weeks ago, there was chatter from AQ militants threatening attacks and they pulled all the personnel out of all the embassies in the middle east. that's because there's only a handful of "at risk" targets to consider, whereas a memo that says "hey, AQ wants to strike the US" could mean a gazillion things. little can be done beyond a general elevated posture. it's not the same thing, not even the same ballpark IMO.


Yes, even when you're completely wrong you are totally right!  It all makes sense!
 
2013-09-21 05:24:31 PM

the_dude_abides: vygramul: Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.

ok so first off, i flipped my lid thinking it was the 9/11 memo and that was obviously stupid. but you really can't compare the two. a warning about an attack on a consulate gives you a much narrower search area. look what happened a few weeks ago, there was chatter from AQ militants threatening attacks and they pulled all the personnel out of all the embassies in the middle east. that's because there's only a handful of "at risk" targets to consider, whereas a memo that says "hey, AQ wants to strike the US" could mean a gazillion things. little can be done beyond a general elevated posture. it's not the same thing, not even the same ballpark IMO.


That memo was completely, totally faked.
 
2013-09-21 05:26:23 PM

cameroncrazy1984: That memo was completely, totally faked.


which is why i said "my bad" as soon as i realized i mistook it for the 9/11 memo
 
2013-09-21 05:27:30 PM

sugardave: Yes, even when you're completely wrong you are totally right!  It all makes sense!


hey dummy, still waiting for those transcripts :)
 
2013-09-21 05:29:46 PM

freak7: keylock71: Lol... This is what you clods remind me of:

LOL you're incapable of admitting that the Obama administration made any mistakes related to Benghazi.


I am? Please tell me more about what I think, Great Karnack...

You assholes are beating a dead horse, and you're too stupid to realize you've got nothing. Months and months of wasted time and money and you've got nothing except for bloviating from Issa, Graham and McCain.
 
2013-09-21 05:31:19 PM

vygramul: the_dude_abides: vygramul: [i.cdn.turner.com image 560x687]

well that's embarrassing... my bad

Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.


Say what?
 
2013-09-21 05:32:04 PM

the_dude_abides: sugardave: Yes, even when you're completely wrong you are totally right!  It all makes sense!

hey dummy, still waiting for those transcripts :)


Like I said, you are unable to stop being an information-moocher.  I am totally shocked.  Get on some more o' dem dar bootstraps and start diggin' away!

Also shocked that you are unable to refrain from personal attacks and name-calling.

Hint:  I'm not really shocked.
 
2013-09-21 05:32:05 PM

vygramul: the_dude_abides: vygramul: [i.cdn.turner.com image 560x687]

well that's embarrassing... my bad

Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.


He won't comment. He will ignore it and if you ask him about it he will deny.
 
2013-09-21 05:32:25 PM

Aristocles: vygramul: the_dude_abides: vygramul: [i.cdn.turner.com image 560x687]

well that's embarrassing... my bad

Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.

Say what?


Yeah, that's about the right response for you.
 
2013-09-21 05:33:28 PM

Zeppelininthesky: Issa is wasting money on stupid useless crap like this, but some people are whining about Obama spending money on vacations.


But Issa is going to find the Real Killers.
 
2013-09-21 05:35:14 PM

Aristocles: vygramul: the_dude_abides: vygramul: [i.cdn.turner.com image 560x687]

well that's embarrassing... my bad

Not as embarrassed as Aristocles should be.

Say what?


You got played like a chump.

Chump.
 
2013-09-21 05:35:26 PM
Also, does anyone else have a problem with using the word "honorable" to describe Issa?  It seems like an antonym in this case.
 
2013-09-21 05:39:18 PM

Fart_Machine: Zeppelininthesky: Issa is wasting money on stupid useless crap like this, but some people are whining about Obama spending money on vacations.

But Issa is going to find the Real Killers.



We can only hope.
 
2013-09-21 05:42:12 PM

Abner Doon: The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.


I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.
 
2013-09-21 05:42:50 PM
hear
 
2013-09-21 05:43:01 PM
Why not have the families of the deceased testify every year at around this time. It could be a new congressional oversight tradition. The families provide valuable insights into what it's like to be dragged into a political pig circus and used as props.
 
2013-09-21 05:44:19 PM
How many jobs will this create, Darrell? Where's that Laser-Like Focus?

Signed,
-One of your constituents
 
2013-09-21 05:44:40 PM

Fart_Machine: Zeppelininthesky: Issa is wasting money on stupid useless crap like this, but some people are whining about Obama spending money on vacations.

But Issa is going to find the Real Killers.


Issa is going to Italy and Egypt to find the one-armed man responsible for Benghazi.
 
2013-09-21 05:45:17 PM
"Republicans forced Admiral Pickering and Ambassador Mullen to submit to closed door depositions and interviews-rather than allowing them to respond at a public hearing-and then sat on those transcripts for months," Cummings toldThe Cable. "Yesterday, these two respected public servants were finally allowed to address the American people and put these unfounded accusations to rest."

GOP-holes and their knob-slobberers: WHY ARE THERE NO TRANSCRIPTS THAT WE WON'T LET PEOPLE HAVE?!
 
2013-09-21 05:50:05 PM

freak7: I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.


So both sides are bad?
 
2013-09-21 05:51:30 PM

Satanic_Hamster: freak7: I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.

So both sides are bad?


but who should we vote for then!?
 
2013-09-21 05:55:00 PM

the_dude_abides: thamike: Yeah, weird.  Especially weird that anyone can google it and bang, there they are.

link?


http://www.google.com
 
2013-09-21 05:55:22 PM

freak7: Abner Doon: The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.

I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.


Yes, libby-lib-liebruls never offer any criticism of Obama.

You've totally convinced me to steal his time machine and go back to change my vote.  If you can just convince a few million more, we, together, can save this once-great nation!

*eyeroll*
 
2013-09-21 06:04:02 PM

freak7: Abner Doon: The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.

I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.


You mean like this?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57584921/officials-on-benghazi-w e- made-mistakes-but-without-malice/

Now do you see why this is not considered a scandal?

Now do you see why everyone laughs at the side that won't admit that it is not a scandal?
 
2013-09-21 06:08:30 PM

Heliovdrake: but who should we vote for then!?


Given his previous claims that we found WMD's in Iraq and that George Zimmerman is a national hero, I'm going to guess....  Hmmm.
 
2013-09-21 06:08:53 PM
 
2013-09-21 06:08:57 PM

Dinki: It would be a shame if some tragedy should befall Issa while he is there.


If it happens to Issa.... it wouldn't be a tragedy, would it.
 
2013-09-21 06:09:04 PM
The GOP certainly loves their manufactured scandals and crisises these days... Too bad they don't put half the effort they put into being outraged into governing effectively.
 
2013-09-21 06:09:24 PM

notto: freak7: Abner Doon: The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.

I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.

You mean like this?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57584921/officials-on-benghazi-w e- made-mistakes-but-without-malice/

Now do you see why this is not considered a scandal?

Now do you see why everyone laughs at the side that won't admit that it is not a scandal?


CBS News is a liberal mainstream MSM media, so it cannot be trusted.  Totally in the tank for 0bama, and there was totally malice involved.  That's the scandal.  Such as.
 
2013-09-21 06:09:40 PM

freak7: Abner Doon: The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.

I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.


Mistakes were made in Benghazi, of course, but the Republicans are acting like there's some crazy cover-up or conspiracy and are entirely focused on making Obama look bad.  They should instead be offering up proposals on how to prevent such an attack from happening again, but of course they haven't because they don't care about that part.
 
2013-09-21 06:10:04 PM

Satanic_Hamster: So both sides are bad?


Both sides make mistakes.
 
2013-09-21 06:12:03 PM

notto: Now do you see why this is not considered a scandal?


When did I say it was a scandal? There does seem to be some incompetence still floating around considering there are known suspects that have been identified and not arrested.
 
2013-09-21 06:12:05 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: They should instead be offering up proposals on how to prevent such an attack from happening again, but of course they haven't because they don't care about that part.


I'm sure that's why they called the parents of the dead staff to testify about.  Certainly it wasn't a political stunt to leverage the death of consulate staff.
 
2013-09-21 06:12:24 PM

freak7: Satanic_Hamster: So both sides are bad?

Both sides make mistakes.


And one side admits it.  Guess which side NEVER admits mistakes?  They just can't, because if they did, it might make them look like they don't ALWAYS know the right answer to something.  Huh.  I wonder which side that is?  I can't quite put my finger on it...
 
2013-09-21 06:15:24 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: freak7: Abner Doon: The sum total of the scandal then, is that they were initially wrong about what caused people to attack the embassy, and that they didn't immediately make public every possible thing they knew?  And that seems like a real scandal to you people? Wow.

I'm not saying it's some huge scandal on the level that some republicans would have you believe. I'm pointing out the other sides inability to accept that mistakes were made. Almost everybody on Fark rips on conservatives for their blind hatred of all things Obama while they do the same goddamn thing by not being able to admit that their side farks up once in a while. They obviously made mistakes related to Benghazi, lets here the Obama flock admit that.

Mistakes were made in Benghazi, of course, but the Republicans are acting like there's some crazy cover-up or conspiracy and are entirely focused on making Obama look bad.  They should instead be offering up proposals on how to prevent such an attack from happening again, but of course they haven't because they don't care about that part.


Seriously - is this the scandal?

www.bitlogic.com

'Cause if it isn't, please point out wherein this incident the scandal lies. And if it is, you really have to explain WHY that makes it a scandal. It seems the important points are not in dispute:

Did the embassy get attacked?
Yes.
Was embassy security insufficient to repel the attack?
Yes.
Did four Americans get killed?
Yes.

No one is denying those. Soooooo...
 
2013-09-21 06:15:49 PM

sugardave: And one side admits it.


When did they admit to anything, before or after it blew up in the news?
 
2013-09-21 06:16:10 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While not actually visiting Benghazi itself, Issa will be flying out for North Africa on Sunday with stops in Italy and Egypt along the way.

I hear Rome is nice this time of year.


If he's looking for facts about Benghazi, howcome he's not visiting the one place where Benghazi actually happened?
 
2013-09-21 06:17:08 PM
I bet it just blows most of your minds that Boehner agrees with Obama about Syria, doesn't it?
 
2013-09-21 06:17:43 PM

freak7: Blame the White House for their refusal to admit that mistakes were made.


They admitted that mistakes were made.  You really should keep up.
 
2013-09-21 06:18:00 PM

Gyrfalcon: Benevolent Misanthrope: While not actually visiting Benghazi itself, Issa will be flying out for North Africa on Sunday with stops in Italy and Egypt along the way.

I hear Rome is nice this time of year.

If he's looking for facts about Benghazi, howcome he's not visiting the one place where Benghazi actually happened?


Haven't you seen the pic of Obama with his shoe on the desk? Issa is no fool.
 
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