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2013-09-21 12:21:08 PM
but... but... zipper!
 
2013-09-21 12:21:28 PM

imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."


People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.
 
2013-09-21 12:22:18 PM
I live for situations where I can bock the right lane and keep assholes from doing this. All you need is one car working with you that will leave you a gap to merge when the lane finally narrows.
 
2013-09-21 12:25:51 PM
I used to wait in line, but I came to realize that there's usually about 40 people between me and the exit who will let people do this, and are consequently screwing over every person behind them.
 
2013-09-21 12:28:11 PM
It's a reciprocal thing. I will allow little old ladies to cut in since they almost always allow me to cut in, but I will hug the back bumper of the car in front of me if some punk tries to cut in front of me at the last minute.

However, a lot of drivers don't realize that you are supposed to slow down to allow cars to merge in from an entrance ramp.
 
2013-09-21 12:28:55 PM

aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.


So the people who get in line in their respective place on the road are assholes too? Lets just paint over all the lines and make it a free-for-all.
 
2013-09-21 12:29:38 PM
This is not illegal unless there is a solid line indicating no lane changes allowed. Don't give the police the authority to decide who is and who isn't an asshole.
 
2013-09-21 12:32:16 PM

NewportBarGuy: Did an 8-year-old type that goddamn thing??

Seriously, that's poorly written.


Mind the gab.
 
2013-09-21 12:33:47 PM

badhatharry: This is not illegal unless there is a solid line indicating no lane changes allowed. Don't give the police the authority to decide who is and who isn't an asshole.


Passing on the right is illegal.
 
2013-09-21 12:35:54 PM

freak7: badhatharry: This is not illegal unless there is a solid line indicating no lane changes allowed. Don't give the police the authority to decide who is and who isn't an asshole.

Passing on the right is illegal.


Good thing the merges in the video happened from the left then.
 
2013-09-21 12:35:58 PM

aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.


What is "merging too soon" mean?  You have a sign two miles before the end of the lane that it is ending.  At that point, you should be looking for a chance to move out of your lane during those two miles.  No one is advocating diving in to the adjacent lane as soon as they are seeing these signs.  You continue to drive and find an opening to safely move over.  People are commenting on the dbags who feel they are too important to sit in the slower lane and drive until they can't anymore on the lane that is closing, then push their way in.
 
2013-09-21 12:36:12 PM

tripleseven: MarkEC: PainInTheASP: Now if they would only start ticketing the assholes who ignore miles of "Lane Closed" signs and force their way into the proper lane at the last second.

I'm looking at you, dickhead beamer with the "Baby on Board" sticker.  You know who you are.  You suck.

When you see a left lane closed ahead sign and you immediately get in the right lane, you are being a lemming. The closure is not 5 miles behind the merge area. You should fill both lanes leading to a merge area, not become single file miles before the merge. A few years ago a local work area had the left lane closed, and leading up to it had a sign saying "USE BOTH LANES TO MERGE POINT" the lemmings got in the right lane for 2 miles through 2 traffic lights. There was never a sign saying which lane was closed ahead. Then the left lane became the open lane a few months later and all the lemmings still hung out in the right lane. I've never laughed so hard in my life when I drove down the empty left lane and came to the merge seeing the right lane was the one closed.

You didn't watch the video, or read the article, did you?


Yes I did. I was responding to a comment that had nothing to do with the article. Most cars in the video are cutting in on exit lanes after the solid white line, which is illegal. While it is a dotted line, it is not illegal, unless it's seen by a cop as reckless driving.
There's an exit near me that the exit lane expands to 2 lanes after the solid white line. Many drivers drift towards the right lane at that expansion even though they want the left lane. Plenty of idiots try to exit across the solid white line to get ahead when the traffic is going slow creating a high risk of an accident when the car they are cutting over towards drifts back over to the left lane. I personally hug the solid white line and am automatically in the left lane at the expansion. If everyone did that on the exit, the people cutting in would learn they can't get away with it.
 
2013-09-21 12:37:08 PM
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/Street justice
 
2013-09-21 12:37:25 PM
The threat of a ticket hasn't stopped Seattleites from driving with a cellphone to their ear.  You can't take a trip without seeing at least one instance of it.
 
2013-09-21 12:37:50 PM

pla: Super Chronic : Um.

Driver's Ed 101 - "Safe following distance" means at least one car-length per 10MPH.

Merging lanes (on the highway) generally slow to 30-40MPH, making "safe" mean three to four car lengths.Three car lengths will not keep anyone from cutting in front of you. And in more aggressive areas (I93 through Boston, for example), people will cut in and literally dare to to hit them if you leave half a car length for them to nose into.

Therefore, the suggestion to "safely" make it impossible for a car to cut in front of you amounts to a suggestion to drive with a very unsafe distance between cars. NewportBarGuy pretty much has it right - In order to physically block these asses from cutting in, you need to literally drive a foot or two from the car ahead of you.


A thought, how old is the rule of following a car?  Is it 40, 50 years old or more?  Was it before or after the introduction of hydraulic brakes and radial tires?  The shortest cars on the road are about 16', and it will only take a 10' gap to follow and not give room to cut in.  If you are paying attention to what may affect the car ahead of you, then your reaction time should be the same as that driver.  You still have a 10' buffer for safety.  At slower speeds like 30-40, this can be done.
 
2013-09-21 12:38:25 PM

rnatalie: Bareefer Obonghit: How are they going to ticket every person in the state?

They already handle that through taxes.   This is for visitors :)


I drive in Florida a LOT. You only get tickets once you're north of Orlando if you;re northbound. This gets worse the further north you get.
 
2013-09-21 12:38:32 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: And just as a side note...everyone ..please ..start looking harder for motorcycles. Get off of your iphone and stop texting dumb shiat like "omg..im stopping at McDonalds now, or ...LOL...that was teh funny!!". People on bikes have little protection from stupid drivers who don't care about anyone but themselves. You're not the only ones out there. Look twice.

/thanks...end of public service announcement.


Yes, let's all make sure to look twice for those guys blasting by you, weaving in and out of lanes, and having a general disregard for all traffic around them.  Those poor snowflakes, who will protect them if not the other guy?  Goodness knows they could give a crap, which is why they made the poor decision to ride a bike in the first place.  Keep the flip flops on and the helmet off Easy Rider, I got your back.
 
2013-09-21 12:39:14 PM

freak7: badhatharry: This is not illegal unless there is a solid line indicating no lane changes allowed. Don't give the police the authority to decide who is and who isn't an asshole.

Passing on the right is illegal.


Not in Florida,
 
2013-09-21 12:39:49 PM

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"I'm surrounded by assholes!"

/damn you Fark mobile and no pic posting abilities.


Fark mobile is awesome
 
2013-09-21 12:41:30 PM

AnimateThis: Bit'O'Gristle: And just as a side note...everyone ..please ..start looking harder for motorcycles. Get off of your iphone and stop texting dumb shiat like "omg..im stopping at McDonalds now, or ...LOL...that was teh funny!!". People on bikes have little protection from stupid drivers who don't care about anyone but themselves. You're not the only ones out there. Look twice.

/thanks...end of public service announcement.

Yes, let's all make sure to look twice for those guys blasting by you, weaving in and out of lanes, and having a general disregard for all traffic around them.  Those poor snowflakes, who will protect them if not the other guy?  Goodness knows they could give a crap, which is why they made the poor decision to ride a bike in the first place.  Keep the flip flops on and the helmet off Easy Rider, I got your back.


Based on my unscientific observations., and my experience riding, most motorcycle wrecks are the fault of the guy on the bike.

/Ride like a nut, dibs on your liver when you die.
 
2013-09-21 12:42:24 PM
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Just another day in paradise.
 
2013-09-21 12:42:49 PM

NightSteel: I have a question for the 'merging early' vs 'zipper merge' people. Is either one actually faster? Given that you have to put the same number of cars through the same constricted space, does it honestly matter when you merge? I mean, if you 'zipper merge', the traffic tailback might be half as long, but won't it take the exact same amount of time to get through?


I've seen plenty of backups that extend back before the previous exit, so maintaining 2 lanes instead of being a lemming and filling the right lane allows the people who are exiting before the lane closure to exit much sooner. They should not have signs saying which lane is closed and just state "One lane closed ahead, use both lanes to merge point."
 
2013-09-21 12:43:14 PM

Super Chronic: Russ1642: PainInTheASP: Now if they would only start ticketing the assholes who ignore miles of "Lane Closed" signs and force their way into the proper lane at the last second.

I'm looking at you, dickhead beamer with the "Baby on Board" sticker.  You know who you are.  You suck.

When a lane is closed the proper way to merge is immediately before the end of the lane. In many countries it's illegal to change lanes early. It causes backups because everyone gets in one lane rather than using the available space. It's also a very unfair way of merging because no matter where you merge you're sure to piss someone off and they won't let you in.

Agreed, it's smoother and more predictable if everyone waits their turn and then does the zipper thing.  What this article is getting at, I think (admittedly hard to tell because of the terrible writing), is cruising along in an exit-only lane while the through lanes are backed up, then trying to force one's way back into traffic at the last second.  That's bad.


They're arguing about illegal lane changes, which are illegal even at 2 am when nobody's around, and have always been illegal. Yes the writing is bad.
 
2013-09-21 12:44:16 PM
So isn't this applicable to people that zoom down the merge lane till the very end and expect to swoop in?
 
2013-09-21 12:45:39 PM

NightSteel: I have a question for the 'merging early' vs 'zipper merge' people. Is either one actually faster? Given that you have to put the same number of cars through the same constricted space, does it honestly matter when you merge? I mean, if you 'zipper merge', the traffic tailback might be half as long, but won't it take the exact same amount of time to get through?


My question is what is the law in your state?
'Cause that is how ya do it, like it, have an opinion, or not.
In Minnesota the idiot trafficistas think the "Zipper" is within the skill set of the average motorist.
It is not!
 
2013-09-21 12:45:44 PM

shanrick: The assholes are all going slower than me and the maniacs are all going faster.


George Carlin, I miss him.
 
2013-09-21 12:45:46 PM

NightSteel: I have a question for the 'merging early' vs 'zipper merge' people. Is either one actually faster? Given that you have to put the same number of cars through the same constricted space, does it honestly matter when you merge? I mean, if you 'zipper merge', the traffic tailback might be half as long, but won't it take the exact same amount of time to get through?


Link, studies, citations and such as.
 
2013-09-21 12:47:10 PM
I'm for fining these drivers because they are the same ones who tail gate me which is even more dangerous but never ticketed unless they crash your rear end.
 
2013-09-21 12:48:11 PM

Amos Quito: [www.bankruptcylitigationblog.com image 448x336]

/Street justice


A Scirocco?

NOT FARKING COOL, MAN.
 
2013-09-21 12:48:46 PM

Super Chronic: snocone: Just happened to me, here in MN. Prick cut in w/o enough room. I could not stop and was also hit from behind.
Prick was insured by ALLSTATE and they as much as told me to go fark, as I must have been "following" too closely.
ALLSTATE Insurance are asswipes. Agent apologized, off the record, and said supervisor was forcing this decision.
Prick was ticked, did not matter.

ALLFAKE Insurance

Sorry to hear that.  Allstate has been really good to me over the years, though.  (On my homeowners policy, anyway.)  Probably a lot depends on who you deal with, unfortunately, and that goes for every company.


Not so much the car company.
They will sell out any integrity for a couple of hundred dollars.
It is standard company policy. Want a copy of the email?
 
2013-09-21 12:49:22 PM
LEFT 2 LANES CLOSED
50 MILES AHEAD


So on seeing this sign, everyone should immediately get into the far right lane, and drive single-file for 50 farking miles?

Otherwise you're an asshole?
 
2013-09-21 12:49:35 PM

oukewldave: aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.

What is "merging too soon" mean?  You have a sign two miles before the end of the lane that it is ending.  At that point, you should be looking for a chance to move out of your lane during those two miles.  No one is advocating diving in to the adjacent lane as soon as they are seeing these signs.  You continue to drive and find an opening to safely move over.  People are commenting on the dbags who feel they are too important to sit in the slower lane and drive until they can't anymore on the lane that is closing, then push their way in.


You're doing it wrong. You should merge just before you run into the lane closure, with a bit of safety margin of course. Many countries make it illegal to merge at any point before that. Your type thinks that once they find a spot to merge nobody should be allowed to merge ahead of them, they have to find a spot behind. If everyone does that then everything gets farked up because the point at which people are merging moves backwards until they're merging five miles back and leaving a lane empty for no reason. It gets ridiculous. It's unfair and people get all pissy about protecting the line in front of them from people merging in.
 
2013-09-21 12:50:46 PM

Super Chronic: Sorry to hear that. Allstate has been really good to me over the years, though. (On my homeowners policy, anyway.) Probably a lot depends on who you deal with, unfortunately, and that goes for every company.


Agreed that some pricks cause problems because they're simply pricks, but it still reflects on the company as a whole.

<Not so csb>
We decided to switch from Allstate to a more reasonably-priced insurer, since Allstate had been steadily jacking our premium beyond all reason. We had paid for the homeowner insurance and were two months into the term when we switched. The sweetheart agent at Allstate immediately informed the mortgage company that our policy had lapsed, and the mortgage company slapped on their own policy and placed it in escrow.

After two further months of fighting this, we said "screw it" and paid off the mortgage. So, no more interest for you, Suntrust.

We received a check for the overpaid mortgage balance: $0.01. I framed it and I hope it farks over their accounting.
</Not so csb>
 
2013-09-21 12:52:56 PM

aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon

and leave big-arsed gaps in front of them because they space out, distract themselves and/or get scared.

It is my moral right, nay DUTY to get in front of those gap-forming Deltas.

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// Where I come from, when someone turns on their signal, you move to block.
// That's why you signal and merge in one continuous motion.
 
2013-09-21 12:53:31 PM

phamwaa: Super Chronic: Sorry to hear that. Allstate has been really good to me over the years, though. (On my homeowners policy, anyway.) Probably a lot depends on who you deal with, unfortunately, and that goes for every company.

Agreed that some pricks cause problems because they're simply pricks, but it still reflects on the company as a whole.

<Not so csb>
We decided to switch from Allstate to a more reasonably-priced insurer, since Allstate had been steadily jacking our premium beyond all reason. We had paid for the homeowner insurance and were two months into the term when we switched. The sweetheart agent at Allstate immediately informed the mortgage company that our policy had lapsed, and the mortgage company slapped on their own policy and placed it in escrow.

After two further months of fighting this, we said "screw it" and paid off the mortgage. So, no more interest for you, Suntrust.

We received a check for the overpaid mortgage balance: $0.01. I framed it and I hope it farks over their accounting.
</Not so csb>


Was not the agent. The cancel notice is demanded by law and automatic.
Have you not learned that the mortgagor owns the house?
 
2013-09-21 12:56:07 PM
If they are trying to say what I think they are saying, there is a big spot in Columbus that I'd encounter every day on the way home from work where a 1 lane exit would get pretty backed up, and people would be zooming past in the left lane, and then cut over at the last minute. Super annoying, I hope they start ticketing these assholes here that do that, but charge them more than $200, make it more like $500. I was cut off to the point I almost hit people several times because if they don't have room (like the article suggests to not give them room) they just start drifting over and if you don't let them over, they'll take the hit then try to blame you for not giving assured clear distance.
 
2013-09-21 12:57:26 PM

oukewldave: aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.

What is "merging too soon" mean?  You have a sign two miles before the end of the lane that it is ending.  At that point, you should be looking for a chance to move out of your lane during those two miles.  No one is advocating diving in to the adjacent lane as soon as they are seeing these signs.  You continue to drive and find an opening to safely move over.


No.  If you see a sign that says "lane ends in two miles" you don't merge then.  You drive with awareness that a lane is closing ahead, and wait until there is a sign that say "merge left" or "merge right".  Then you merge.  If you merge before that (or too far after that) you are an traffic-backup-up asshole.

There's a reason you often seen "use both lanes" signs in situations like this, because assholes start merging and causing backups before that.


People are commenting on the dbags who feel they are too important to sit in the slower lane and drive until they can't anymore on the lane that is closing, then push their way in.

You just said I should start the process of merging two miles ahead of the lane closure.  So if I stay in my lane and drive past all you farking lane-snarling sheep until I see a sign that says "lane ends, merge left", and then I merge, I must be too important for you because I obey the construction zone signs including whereas you don't.

Whatever.

Let's be honest here, the real reason people merge two miles ahead of where they should is that they are pussies whose fragile minds can't handle the idea that they might have to do some "negotiating" at the merge point.
 
2013-09-21 12:57:32 PM

Amos Quito: LEFT 2 LANES CLOSED
50 MILES AHEAD

So on seeing this sign, everyone should immediately get into the far right lane, and drive single-file for 50 farking miles?

Otherwise you're an asshole?


You've seen this sign before?
 
2013-09-21 12:58:57 PM

snocone: Super Chronic: snocone: Just happened to me, here in MN. Prick cut in w/o enough room. I could not stop and was also hit from behind.
Prick was insured by ALLSTATE and they as much as told me to go fark, as I must have been "following" too closely.
ALLSTATE Insurance are asswipes. Agent apologized, off the record, and said supervisor was forcing this decision.
Prick was ticked, did not matter.

ALLFAKE Insurance

Sorry to hear that.  Allstate has been really good to me over the years, though.  (On my homeowners policy, anyway.)  Probably a lot depends on who you deal with, unfortunately, and that goes for every company.

Not so much the car company.
They will sell out any integrity for a couple of hundred dollars.
It is standard company policy. Want a copy of the email?


I had an accident a few years ago when a car that was stopped in a left turn lane changed lanes in front of me with no time to prevent the accident. We both had Allstate. She accepted fault to me, and since my car was older and already scratched up, I didn't even put a claim in. I got a call from Allstate telling me she claimed the accident was my fault. We both took out cars to Allstate to look at and the damage proved she was lying. Her insurance paid me $500 for the damage on my front left corner. She would have been better off not putting that claim in. Allstate has always been fair to me.
 
2013-09-21 12:59:15 PM

OhioUGrad: If they are trying to say what I think they are saying, there is a big spot in Columbus that I'd encounter every day on the way home from work where a 1 lane exit would get pretty backed up, and people would be zooming past in the left lane, and then cut over at the last minute. Super annoying, I hope they start ticketing these assholes here that do that, but charge them more than $200, make it more like $500. I was cut off to the point I almost hit people several times because if they don't have room (like the article suggests to not give them room) they just start drifting over and if you don't let them over, they'll take the hit then try to blame you for not giving assured clear distance.


You have the right of way.  If the other car hits you, that's his/her fault for not staying in his/her lane and/or failure of merging safely.  At least that's the way I see it.

/not a lawyer
 
2013-09-21 01:05:50 PM

safetycap: People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon and leave big-arsed gaps in front of them because they space out, distract themselves and/or get scared.


That too.  In California there's another reason for this: people don't want to strain their precious BMW and Audi engines by accelerating it too fast, so cultrally there's a tendency not to ever "gun it".  Ergo, lots of gaps.  Ergo, lots of people cutting in front of you.

It's more annoying at traffic lights than on the freeway, though.  At traffic lights people will take their foot off the brake and idle until the car hits 5 or 10 mph before accelerating.  Annoying as fark if you're the second car in line.  Other that, traffic lights are much better in California than any other state I've been in.
 
2013-09-21 01:07:41 PM
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2013-09-21 01:08:21 PM

Amos Quito: [www.bankruptcylitigationblog.com image 448x336]

/Street justice


Do you know she has flowers on her panties?
 
2013-09-21 01:09:18 PM

BigRightRear: aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.

So the people who get in line in their respective place on the road are assholes too? Lets just paint over all the lines and make it a free-for-all.


Merging two miles ahead of a lane closure is not "getting in line in their respective place on the road".  HTH.
 
2013-09-21 01:09:30 PM

PsyLord: OhioUGrad: If they are trying to say what I think they are saying, there is a big spot in Columbus that I'd encounter every day on the way home from work where a 1 lane exit would get pretty backed up, and people would be zooming past in the left lane, and then cut over at the last minute. Super annoying, I hope they start ticketing these assholes here that do that, but charge them more than $200, make it more like $500. I was cut off to the point I almost hit people several times because if they don't have room (like the article suggests to not give them room) they just start drifting over and if you don't let them over, they'll take the hit then try to blame you for not giving assured clear distance.

You have the right of way.  If the other car hits you, that's his/her fault for not staying in his/her lane and/or failure of merging safely.  At least that's the way I see it.

/not a lawyer


That's how I see it as well, but 1. I don't want my car hit at all, 2. they'd sit and argue for ever to try and say they had the right to merge etc....I'm sure everyone on Fark has been in this situation probably several times, and I am sure there are several Farkers that CAUSE these situations a few times a week.
 
2013-09-21 01:11:16 PM
They should also fine those who keep a 500' distance from the car in front of them, thus backing up traffic. Also, fine those who almost stop when they see a police car, or an accident scene, trying to see what's going on, instead of minding their own business and drive like they're supposed to. Or those who are too busy talking to their passengers, or texting / being on the cell phone / reading, etc while forgetting they're at the wheel. Yes, I cut back into traffic several times for the above-mentioned reasons. Streets are for everybody to drive on. They're not park alleys, coffee parlors, offices etc. If you don't feel like driving, stay the fark home and let others do it.
 
2013-09-21 01:12:07 PM

aerojockey: oukewldave: aerojockey: imfallen_angel: DERP... he stated "at the last second."

People who wait till the last second are lesser assholes than people who cause back ups for miles because they merge way way too soon.

What is "merging too soon" mean?  You have a sign two miles before the end of the lane that it is ending.  At that point, you should be looking for a chance to move out of your lane during those two miles.  No one is advocating diving in to the adjacent lane as soon as they are seeing these signs.  You continue to drive and find an opening to safely move over.

No.  If you see a sign that says "lane ends in two miles" you don't merge then.  You drive with awareness that a lane is closing ahead, and wait until there is a sign that say "merge left" or "merge right".  Then you merge.  If you merge before that (or too far after that) you are an traffic-backup-up asshole.

There's a reason you often seen "use both lanes" signs in situations like this, because assholes start merging and causing backups before that.


People are commenting on the dbags who feel they are too important to sit in the slower lane and drive until they can't anymore on the lane that is closing, then push their way in.

You just said I should start the process of merging two miles ahead of the lane closure.  So if I stay in my lane and drive past all you farking lane-snarling sheep until I see a sign that says "lane ends, merge left", and then I merge, I must be too important for you because I obey the construction zone signs including whereas you don't.

Whatever.

Let's be honest here, the real reason people merge two miles ahead of where they should is that they are pussies whose fragile minds can't handle the idea that they might have to do some "negotiating" at the merge point.


Really? Pussies? I drive sprint cars on weekends with no mirrors or radios so 'afraid to merge' is bullshiat. It's called common courtesy. Learn some.
 
2013-09-21 01:12:48 PM
Would the opposite be true? You're in a 1/2 mile merge lane, trying to get on, no one lets you, but you force your way in near the gore point?
 
2013-09-21 01:15:00 PM

MarkEC: I've seen plenty of backups that extend back before the previous exit, so maintaining 2 lanes instead of being a lemming and filling the right lane allows the people who are exiting before the lane closure to exit much sooner. They should not have signs saying which lane is closed and just state "One lane closed ahead, use both lanes to merge point."


Ah, I see.  So it's not that zipper merging is any faster getting through a choke point, it's that with a shorter tailback, there's less potential for disruption further back.

Makes me wonder what the relevant law is in terms of signage.  How far back does the law require signage of merge points?  Is it required to say which lane is closed?  If signage is in place indicating a zipper merge, and people merge early anyway, is there any remedy?
 
2013-09-21 01:15:12 PM

OhioUGrad: PsyLord: OhioUGrad: If they are trying to say what I think they are saying, there is a big spot in Columbus that I'd encounter every day on the way home from work where a 1 lane exit would get pretty backed up, and people would be zooming past in the left lane, and then cut over at the last minute. Super annoying, I hope they start ticketing these assholes here that do that, but charge them more than $200, make it more like $500. I was cut off to the point I almost hit people several times because if they don't have room (like the article suggests to not give them room) they just start drifting over and if you don't let them over, they'll take the hit then try to blame you for not giving assured clear distance.

You have the right of way.  If the other car hits you, that's his/her fault for not staying in his/her lane and/or failure of merging safely.  At least that's the way I see it.

/not a lawyer

That's how I see it as well, but 1. I don't want my car hit at all, 2. they'd sit and argue for ever to try and say they had the right to merge etc....I'm sure everyone on Fark has been in this situation probably several times, and I am sure there are several Farkers that CAUSE these situations a few times a week.


The right to merge?  Is that even a real thing?  Seriously, I would like to know.  The way I see it, it should be treated the same way that a car on the oncoming lane wants to turn left and cross your lane as you are going straight.  You have the right of way since you are going straight (unless you have a red light or stop sign and they have a green left turn arrow).
 
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