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(Fox News)   Some brains may be hard-wired for chronic pain. Finally, an explanation why people continually see the latest Adam Sandler film   (foxnews.com) divider line 18
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2013-09-21 11:41:30 AM  
Presumably they excluded from their study people who only claim to be in pain so they can score more pain med prescriptions.
 
2013-09-21 12:40:53 PM  
They seem to look everywhere except the actual structural source of the pain. If it can't be seen in a gross x-ray or an MRI, it's gotta be in your head. Never mind you can't see a nerve in either one of those films, but you can magically see nerve pathways inside the brain.

In other words, horseshiat. A big, steaming, fly encircled pyramid of it.
 
2013-09-21 02:04:55 PM  
They discovered the brains of people experiencing chronic pain look different from the brains of people who are not. Then they drew some sketchy conclusions based on the assumption that all the test subjects were otherwise equal in every way, right down to their injuries.
 
2013-09-21 02:07:48 PM  
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2013-09-21 02:31:40 PM  
Then there are the theories that things like sleep deprivation and depression change brain function. Maybe chronic pain could cause depression and sleep disturbances? Just a thought.
 
2013-09-21 02:32:12 PM  
Somehow, subby, I sincerely doubt anyone "continually" watches any film.
 
2013-09-21 02:33:23 PM  
This explains why my mother in law is such a biatch.
 
2013-09-21 03:21:30 PM  
isn't there a positive correlation between geniuses and fibromyalgia?
 
2013-09-21 03:23:53 PM  

PainfulItching: Then there are the theories that things like sleep deprivation and depression change brain function. Maybe chronic pain could cause depression and sleep disturbances? Just a thought.


or vice-versa, and they call it 'fibromyalgia' inflammation-free terrible pain. like 'ghost pain' wtf is it? it doesn't even make sense. serotonin receptors at cell membrane in PNS neurons held in association with opiate receptors... hmm weird crosstalk. responds to SSRIs? a GABA-BZ link, too? weird.
 
2013-09-21 03:25:58 PM  

SomeoneDumb: Somehow, subby, I sincerely doubt anyone "continually" watches any film.


I think you mean continuously.
 
2013-09-21 03:38:10 PM  

potterydove: SomeoneDumb: Somehow, subby, I sincerely doubt anyone "continually" watches any film.

I think you mean continuously.


http://www.diffen.com/difference/Continually_vs_Continuously
 
2013-09-21 04:09:14 PM  
Its possible to continually watch the same movie.  However you really can't continuously do it, because you have to sleep eventually.
 
2013-09-21 04:13:07 PM  
Its possible to continually watch the same movie.  However you really can't continuously do it, because you have to sleep eventually.

/It's, not its.
 
2013-09-21 04:17:31 PM  

utah dude: PainfulItching: Then there are the theories that things like sleep deprivation and depression change brain function. Maybe chronic pain could cause depression and sleep disturbances? Just a thought.

or vice-versa, and they call it 'fibromyalgia' inflammation-free terrible pain. like 'ghost pain' wtf is it? it doesn't even make sense. serotonin receptors at cell membrane in PNS neurons held in association with opiate receptors... hmm weird crosstalk. responds to SSRIs? a GABA-BZ link, too? weird.


True chronic pain laughs at opiates. You'll stop respirations before the pain stops. If you can knock it down a couple of notches, it's the best result possible. If someone is getting gorked on it, that's abuse. The person still carrying on a conversation after 50mg of hydrocodone is actually in pain.
 
2013-09-21 05:01:27 PM  
Took Topamax to try to rewire my brain from having so many migraines. It never stopped the migraines, but my chronic back pain has disappeared. The occasional pain from strain still happens, but no more back pain!
 
2013-09-21 09:31:20 PM  
At least half the people I see with "chronic pain" have anxious personalities.  They tend to catastrophise minor events, are prone to histrionics. and tend to ruminate.  Quite narcissistic too (in that their have an intense focus on themselves to the exclusion of most other things).  They've often got a long pre-pain history of health-based anxiety (frequent trips to doctors, getting third opinions, demanding unnecessary therapies), and a large number had abusive or neglectful families.

Unlike other people with severe or chronic pain, they often do not wish to learn how to live with it or minimise it; they won't comply with CBT, they don't want to hear that their mood or beliefs will influence their experience of pain, they just want a lot of attention focussed on them and their pain, and they seem to depend on the excuse it provides to no longer have to accept responsibility for anything.

They are the worst clients.  I will happily deal with a person with Antisocial Personality Disorder or severe PTSD over a person with "chronic pain".
 
2013-09-21 11:01:37 PM  
This actually does make some sense with the fact that SNRI-class antidepressants are also prescribed for chronic pain. Also, depression can cause (relatively mild) chronic all-over achiness... which I found the Cymbalta (part of said class) got rid of WAY better than the SSRIs. FWIW, they've discovered that emotional pain uses the same brain circuits as physical pain, so that's probably how that works. Also explains why so many depressive people end up self-injuring.... physical pain forces endorphin release.

rik_everglade: Took Topamax to try to rewire my brain from having so many migraines. It never stopped the migraines, but my chronic back pain has disappeared. The occasional pain from strain still happens, but no more back pain!


They tried to add Topomax to the Cymbalta for me... my doc told me they call it the Barbie drug, cause it tends to make you stupid, and thin by way of killing your appetite. Didn't help and it totally gave me the dumb (especially finding words). But yeah, apparently the anti-epileptic drugs can help chronic pain, too.

So yeah, it's almost certainly a nerves-firing-off-when-they-shouldn't-be issue. Whether it's the brain or in the immediate body area doesn't really matter to how you'd treat it.
 
2013-09-22 04:21:05 AM  
would all the self-centred assholes who clam to have "chronic pain" in order to seem bigger and more important please identify yourselves.

Oh, reading the comments, I see you already have.
 
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