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(CTV News)   Ten years and 2 million heroin injections later, Vancouver BC's InSite, celebrates. Now please go out and vote for the referendum to legalize marijuana   (bc.ctvnews.ca) divider line 68
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2013-09-20 09:32:14 PM
I'd be glad to vote if that referendum ever happens, which isn't likely as long as Harper is in charge. The one they're trying to hold in BC is a step in the right direction but it's non-binding even if they do get enough signatures on their petition.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-09-20 10:34:50 PM
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Don't do it.  Don't ever, ever do it!  Don't hang around people that do it.  Don't entertain the idea.
 
2013-09-20 11:01:44 PM

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Don't do it.  Don't ever, ever do it!  Don't hang around people that do it.  Don't entertain the idea.


Moar for you, huh?
 
2013-09-20 11:05:29 PM

433: Don't do it.  Don't ever, ever do it!  Don't hang around people that do it.  Don't entertain the idea.


Too late. Never injected it, though. I hate needles.
 
2013-09-20 11:09:01 PM

433: [i192.photobucket.com image 320x240][i192.photobucket.com image 320x240]

Don't do it.  Don't ever, ever do it!  Don't hang around people that do it.  Don't entertain the idea.


It's like a warm blanket.
 
2013-09-20 11:12:13 PM
MemeSlave:

It's like a warm blanket.

On a hot Summer day.
 
2013-09-20 11:12:35 PM
I was a heroin addict for 8 years.  Worst experience of my whole life.  I wouldn't wish that kind of hell on anybody, not even my worst enemy.  Been clean for a little over 2 years now though and I'll never go back.

Despite what others will say, a safe injection site like this really does save lives.  I can't count the number of times I've reused a needle because they were increasingly hard to get.  I've even shared a needle that an old buddy used because I couldn't find one. (Don't worry, I've been tested.)

Just don't do it.  Never.
 
2013-09-20 11:14:06 PM
The downside of coming off junk was I knew I would need to watch the Vancouver Canucks again in a state of full consciousness. It was awful. They reminded me so much of myself, I could hardly bear to look at them.
 
2013-09-20 11:14:14 PM
This is how I'd like the US to start treating drug use. I won't hold my breath, though.
 
2013-09-20 11:31:15 PM
I go to Amsterdam too chill every six months.
 
2013-09-20 11:31:53 PM
I remember reading about InSite a few years ago, and how it was a cautious success (as in; people in power didn't want to tie their names to something that might still be controversial and/or failing). I was very impressed by the coverage and their approach to addiction and some of the related activities (y'know, non-safe stuff). Even my little liberal mind was blown at how non-judgmental they were, and that's awesome that it appears to still be working.
 
2013-09-20 11:33:43 PM
I've known one person that used heroin. They're dead now and a kid has no dad.
 
2013-09-20 11:35:29 PM
OnyxOdin:

Just don't do it.  Never.

Well that settles it. I bought this smack earlier, with the intention of shooting it all for the first time ever, but your words here on Fark swayed me and I gave it all away to the kids instead. Thank you for saving my life.

/Also- It takes me 8 years just to return a phone call.
 
2013-09-20 11:38:10 PM
www.freedomsphoenix.com
/Bob always celebrates...
 
2013-09-20 11:42:27 PM
I am very pleased to see InSite still in business and doing its work well. Would love to see things like this in Southern Ontario too. I believe in harm reduction, and for some very practical reasons...

My brother's girlfriend was one of the missing women from the Downtown Eastside whose DNA was found on Picton's farm. She tried so hard, through so many rehabs to stay straight, but it never worked for her. In the end, her addiction led her to the pig farm. Had InSite been around in those days, things might have been a lot better for her. She might not have got Hep C and given it to my brother. She might have had a safe place to go to use. She might have had more access to the rehab upstairs at InSite. She might still be alive.

It's a very good idea, and it needs to be done in more places.
 
2013-09-20 11:43:23 PM

kvinesknows: onyxodin... counsellor in a rehab facility... government run and paid for no doubt? so still a leech on society then?


Wow you're a dick
 
2013-09-20 11:49:31 PM
I love how the comments are focused on the 3 million budget. They're actually helping people, but that 3 million would be better spent elsewhere? How about how they spend the other 50 million that gets spent on the area?
 
2013-09-20 11:50:14 PM

FedExPope: I won't hold my breath, though.


No, no, coughing's good! It opens up the capillaries. You know, when you cough you're pulling in air, or in this case - smoke, into parts of the lungs that don't normally get used. So, coughing's good, it gets you higher.
 
2013-09-20 11:55:43 PM
My older brothers best friend Bill died of an overdose about 20 years ago.

Just a great guy.  Smart, cool (unlike my brother or his larger clique of future engineer friends), thriving in med-school and something of a swordsman too.

Then heroin became the most important thing in his life  Then he was dead.*

* he was sort of dead before he died anyway...
 
2013-09-20 11:56:07 PM

we'refromthesamestory: No, it doesn't. It gives you a head rush.


1.bp.blogspot.com

/agreed
 
2013-09-21 12:00:25 AM
Good old insite. Cause it sure as hell beats tripping over junkies in the hallway.
 
2013-09-21 12:00:30 AM
If you can afford heroin, you can afford needles.
 
2013-09-21 12:01:00 AM
I was in BC last week for a concert and didn't realize what a shiat hole the downtown has become. The streets were filled wth druggies. It was worse than Portland!!
 
2013-09-21 12:03:39 AM

89 Stick-Up Kid: I was in BC last week for a concert and didn't realize what a shiat hole the downtown has become. The streets were filled wth druggies. It was worse than Portland!!


it's been that way since the 80's at least.
 
2013-09-21 12:06:16 AM
I reckon the state should give away free heroin...

Then, when the junkies are used to it, cut in dioxin. So many problems solved at once.
 
2013-09-21 12:07:02 AM
Approves:

www.davincisinquest.com
 
2013-09-21 12:09:11 AM

astouffer: If you can afford heroin, you can afford needles.


Sure, you could afford them.  The bigger problem was availability since almost every pharmacy today requires an insulin prescription to get them.
 
2013-09-21 12:12:41 AM

astouffer: If you can afford heroin, you can afford needles.


Like if you're in Texas and can afford an abortion?
 
2013-09-21 12:14:05 AM
They're considering opening a place like this in Montreal. Opinions vary alot but the general consensus is that those places are indeed beneficial and the culture around the city favors the opening of such a place, NIMBY factors aside.
 
2013-09-21 12:15:55 AM

astouffer: If you can afford heroin, you can afford needles.


Around here you need a prescription for syringes, you can't just go to the pharmacy and buy needles. Unless you're leet and buy the large gauge needles at farm supply stores in the livestock husbandry section.
 
2013-09-21 12:24:37 AM

OnyxOdin: kvinesknows: onyxodin... counsellor in a rehab facility... government run and paid for no doubt? so still a leech on society then?

Actually, it's not government funded.  Keep trying though.


Umm, yes, yes it is. Unless you think that Health Canada and the BC Ministry of Health funding is not government funding.

Of course decreased costs for healthcare etc probably more than offset it.
 
2013-09-21 12:26:35 AM
 
2013-09-21 12:26:42 AM

dywed88: OnyxOdin: kvinesknows: onyxodin... counsellor in a rehab facility... government run and paid for no doubt? so still a leech on society then?

Actually, it's not government funded.  Keep trying though.

Umm, yes, yes it is. Unless you think that Health Canada and the BC Ministry of Health funding is not government funding.

Of course decreased costs for healthcare etc probably more than offset it.


I believe he was replying to the troll's accusation that the rehab center at which he works was gov't funded, not the story in the article.
 
2013-09-21 12:27:46 AM
There hasn't ever been an overdose death at the safe-injection site.

"The research found that there had been no increase in drug use among injection drug users, as a result of opening InSite, no increase in relapse among former users, no increase in crime in the neighbourhood surrounding InSite and a decrease in discarded needles and people injecting in public. All positive outcomes," she told a crowd gathered at the facility to celebrate the anniversary.
Daly said HIV diagnoses among drug injection drug users are significantly down and fatal overdoses in the Downtown Eastside neighbourhood have dropped.


Well, I don't even have snark to spare here. Let's set up Hamsterdam in every city in the States.
 
2013-09-21 12:35:36 AM

croesius: dywed88: OnyxOdin: kvinesknows: onyxodin... counsellor in a rehab facility... government run and paid for no doubt? so still a leech on society then?

Actually, it's not government funded.  Keep trying though.

Umm, yes, yes it is. Unless you think that Health Canada and the BC Ministry of Health funding is not government funding.

Of course decreased costs for healthcare etc probably more than offset it.

I believe he was replying to the troll's accusation that the rehab center at which he works was gov't funded, not the story in the article.


I stand corrected and apologize.

Of course the government  should be funding these things and rehab facilities. It seems like a no brainer, almost certainly with a good return on investment. The costs to society of drug abuse are enormous and can be reduced fairly easily.
 
2013-09-21 12:42:19 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Well, I don't even have snark to spare here. Let's set up Hamsterdam in every city in the States


Far cheaper than building more jails, but doesn't have quite the same effect on your politician's and lobbyist's bank accounts.
 
2013-09-21 12:55:05 AM

89 Stick-Up Kid: I was in BC last week for a concert and didn't realize what a shiat hole the downtown has become. The streets were filled wth druggies. It was worse than Portland!!


Vancouver? Victoria?  Believe it or not there are many cities in BC.
 
2013-09-21 12:58:06 AM

You are Borg: 89 Stick-Up Kid: I was in BC last week for a concert and didn't realize what a shiat hole the downtown has become. The streets were filled wth druggies. It was worse than Portland!!

Vancouver? Victoria?  Believe it or not there are many cities in BC.


Vancouver is generally considered BC. Victoria is Victoria. At least to locals.
 
2013-09-21 01:04:19 AM

FedExPope: This is how I'd like the US to start treating drug use. I won't hold my breath, though.


I also wouldnt hold my breath that safe injection site will happen in the rest of Canada. Canada: more like the US than we would like to admit.

/Canadian
//ask the average Canadian to list 3 ways we are better then Americans and he'll say "Healthcare!" and watch him mumble under his breath
 
2013-09-21 01:09:16 AM

bwilson27: You are Borg: 89 Stick-Up Kid: I was in BC last week for a concert and didn't realize what a shiat hole the downtown has become. The streets were filled wth druggies. It was worse than Portland!!

Vancouver? Victoria?  Believe it or not there are many cities in BC.

Vancouver is generally considered BC. Victoria is Victoria. At least to locals.


Hmm, as someone who's lived in bc since birth, that's news to me. Vancouver is referred to as Vancouver, van city, van shiatty or hongcover, and Victoria is Victoria, land of the newly wed or nearly dead. Wasn't trying to be snarky, but I'm also 6(Canadian) beers deep.
 
2013-09-21 01:19:55 AM
ten years ago I worked the 1st shift, the night we opened the doors at Insite. I stayed for the 1st year. crazy f-ing year it was too.
ended up working about three years at the NAOMI project. that's when shiat got seriously strange.
CSB
 
2013-09-21 01:22:52 AM

freak7: I've known one person that used heroin. They're dead now and a kid has no dad.


Lost a niece to it, another is in rehab constantly after over-doses. Friends parents are lost to it, just a matter of time. Its a blight and the people who deal it should be shot in the street after a ten minute trial by the closest 12 peers.

When you are so far gone to it that you are in the street in danger of an overdose, it is just a question of time. By keeping these people in Vancouver alive they are just making money for dealers. I honestly think the only answer to this drug is camps out in the wilderness where they can be weaned on Methadone by non-profits. You cant allow them any access to dealers and you cannot let someone profit on the treatment, the addiction is too powerful and to easily abused by clinic operators.
 
2013-09-21 01:25:44 AM
Whenever ex-heroin addicts are all, "don't do it man, seriously" it makes me kinda suspicious and wanting to try it even more than before. Like, what are you hiding? It's actually amazing and awesome isn't it?!

/never move to Seattle
//it rains literally every day
 
2013-09-21 01:28:02 AM

You are Borg: bwilson27: You are Borg: 89 Stick-Up Kid: I was in BC last week for a concert and didn't realize what a shiat hole the downtown has become. The streets were filled wth druggies. It was worse than Portland!!

Vancouver? Victoria?  Believe it or not there are many cities in BC.

Vancouver is generally considered BC. Victoria is Victoria. At least to locals.

Hmm, as someone who's lived in bc since birth, that's news to me. Vancouver is referred to as Vancouver, van city, van shiatty or hongcover, and Victoria is Victoria, land of the newly wed or nearly dead. Wasn't trying to be snarky, but I'm also 6(Canadian) beers deep.


This is true. Grew up in Vancouver and now live in the Central Interior. Other than laying claim to the BC Lions, Vancouver is just Vancouver.
 
2013-09-21 02:17:27 AM
It makes me sad how the whole issue of drugs (and mental health as a whole) is generally approached. We have no idea what we're doing, but by god we'll keep doing it.
 
2013-09-21 02:29:14 AM
The idea of not spreading diseases is a great one, but it still seems like enabling them. I'm all for giving out free needles, having them illegal to get is just asking for them to be reused. Go in, get a fix, then what? Do they offer beds to you when you start nodding off? Also, I find it hard to believe cops wouldn't be stopping people left and right. Maybe Canadian cops are more laid back?
 
2013-09-21 02:34:01 AM

Notabunny: Here's a good Jian Ghomeshi interview with a health reporter familiar with InSite. (starts at about 5:30)


Thank you for this.
 
2013-09-21 02:41:36 AM

Rashnu: It's actually amazing and awesome isn't it?!


I think that's the point. It's so amazing that you wind up flushing everything else in your life down the toilet and you eventually wind up awesomely dead.
 
2013-09-21 03:13:28 AM
throw theiving users in jail.make jails drug alcohol and violence free6 months of dryland let them out, no record and more educationthey want to do drugs? let them get a job to pay for it.dont baby them
 
2013-09-21 03:19:54 AM

kvinesknows: throw theiving users in jail.make jails drug alcohol and violence free6 months of dryland let them out, no record and more educationthey want to do drugs? let them get a job to pay for it.dont baby them


Go home, kvinesknows; you're drunk.
 
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