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2013-09-20 04:22:31 PM
10 reasons 'Dexter' final last fourseasons have sucked.

This is more like it
/mostly from what I've heard, I basically bailed out mid-way through the Julia Stiles season (5?), never picked it back up, but, from what I read, I didn't miss much.
 
2013-09-20 04:29:57 PM
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2013-09-20 04:52:40 PM

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This is the reason I own all 5 seasons of Chuck.
 
2013-09-20 05:08:26 PM
 
2013-09-20 05:10:30 PM
Subby, that's not entirely accurate.  She's gotten nekkid a few times, we just don't get to see the full monty.  That said, she's shown some good side boob and, IIRC, butt.

Oh wait, that was season 7.  You're talking about season 8.  Well then, carry on.
 
2013-09-20 05:11:49 PM
that treadmill scene (possibly NSFW, though funny)
 
2013-09-20 05:12:35 PM

dletter: 10 reasons 'Dexter' final last fourseasons have sucked.

This is more like it
/mostly from what I've heard, I basically bailed out mid-way through the Julia Stiles season (5?), never picked it back up, but, from what I read, I didn't miss much.


That's longer than me, I quit after the Trinity Killer.  There was no way in hell they were gonna top or even equal Lithgows performance and arc so I got out while the getting was good.
 
2013-09-20 05:14:05 PM

FeedTheCollapse: that treadmill scene (possibly NSFW, though funny)


well, fark. Is there anyway to post a .gif url without the damn comment box trying to post the picture?
 
2013-09-20 05:16:30 PM
I can't say I really disagree with the list though. For as much as the producers touted this season as some kind of long-planned ending, it feels really half-assed and relies way too much on characters just kind of being dumb. It's the Prometheus of TV seasons.
 
2013-09-20 05:18:35 PM
The writing was never really grounded in 'reality' in the first place, but the quality of the show has certainly suffered since the end of season 4. They should have wrapped up the show with a better story during season 5.

This is one of those shows where they write to keep it going... After season 4, there wasn't as much tension or even a REASON to advance the story arc of the characters. It was just more of the same... Hopefully BB will set a new standard for writers.
 
2013-09-20 05:18:59 PM

dletter: 10 reasons 'Dexter' final last fourseasons have sucked.

This is more like it
/mostly from what I've heard, I basically bailed out mid-way through the Julia Stiles season (5?), never picked it back up, but, from what I read, I didn't miss much.


I gave up after season 5. I tried season 7 because I thought that Deb catching Dexter in the act held great promise for an exciting season. Made it about halfway. As far as I'm concerned, the series ends with Rita's death.
 
2013-09-20 05:20:24 PM

dletter: 10 reasons 'Dexter' final last fourseasons have sucked.

This is more like it
/mostly from what I've heard, I basically bailed out mid-way through the Julia Stiles season (5?), never picked it back up, but, from what I read, I didn't miss much.


I think that about wraps it up. I regret that I've stayed until the bitter end. It's been really depressing to see the show plummet, especially given the excellence of seasons 1 and 2.
 
2013-09-20 05:22:47 PM
I thought this AVClub review completely nailed it:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/make-your-own-kind-of-music,101569

Also (MAYBE SPOILERS BUT I DON'T THINK SO), if the rumored "last scene" that was floating around a few weeks back is true (and it looks like it will be), it might go down as one of the worst TV show endings in history.
 
2013-09-20 05:24:47 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: The writing was never really grounded in 'reality' in the first place, but the quality of the show has certainly suffered since the end of season 4.


I thought season 5 wasn't bad; it had more to do with progressing Dexter's character, but they attempted to move it forward with a fairly goofy villain. After that, I get the feeling that showrunners who took over after season 4 really weren't interested in where the show was heading and decided to write Dexter into fantastical situations that generally ignored the idea that Dexter doesn't really want to kill and eventually move beyond those compulsion.
 
2013-09-20 05:26:01 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: The writing was never really grounded in 'reality' in the first place, but the quality of the show has certainly suffered since the end of season 4. They should have wrapped up the show with a better story during season 5.

This is one of those shows where they write to keep it going... After season 4, there wasn't as much tension or even a REASON to advance the story arc of the characters. It was just more of the same... Hopefully BB will set a new standard for writers.


Hopefully not, cause I think a lot of BB's story is kind of cheesy.  That plane crash a few seasons ago almost made me stop watching.  Seems like this last half has been a little toward the cheesy as well *cough* A-Team ending *cough*.
 
2013-09-20 05:28:46 PM

DeWayne Mann: I thought this AVClub review completely nailed it:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/make-your-own-kind-of-music,101569


I almost think that the AVClub reviews take Dexter a little too personally, but damned if they're not spot-on about the show's flaws.

I'm not entirely sure I'd be on-board with Dexter being punished for his crimes (as the AV Club seems to suggest) as I think that would be pretty underwhelming (though somewhat preferable to the leaked ending...) and mostly missing the point of Dexter in its early seasons.
 
2013-09-20 05:29:33 PM
From the article :
Dexter is talking like he's trying to hold in a fart, so obviously they belong together!

You see, for serial killers, emotions are like farts.
 
2013-09-20 05:32:08 PM

gunga galunga: As far as I'm concerned, the series ends with Rita's death.



I think everyone would agree with this...
 
2013-09-20 05:32:30 PM

FeedTheCollapse: DeWayne Mann: I thought this AVClub review completely nailed it:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/make-your-own-kind-of-music,101569

I almost think that the AVClub reviews take Dexter a little too personally, but damned if they're not spot-on about the show's flaws.

I'm not entirely sure I'd be on-board with Dexter being punished for his crimes (as the AV Club seems to suggest) as I think that would be pretty underwhelming (though somewhat preferable to the leaked ending...) and mostly missing the point of Dexter in its early seasons.


Well, if we're talking about missing the point of its early seasons...

Remember how Dexter originally just killed people that the "system" couldn't handle? People who were set free on technicalities, or there wasn't enough admissible evidence?

When the heck did that stop? Was it when he purposely messed up the Trinity investigation, or before then? Because nowadays he just screws up every single case he can.
 
2013-09-20 05:39:25 PM
They should end the show with the ghost of Dexter's dad being killed by the ghost of LaGuerta, and then having LaGuerta stand in for Dexter's dad as his voice of reason.
 
2013-09-20 05:42:11 PM

DeWayne Mann: FeedTheCollapse: DeWayne Mann: I thought this AVClub review completely nailed it:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/make-your-own-kind-of-music,101569

I almost think that the AVClub reviews take Dexter a little too personally, but damned if they're not spot-on about the show's flaws.

I'm not entirely sure I'd be on-board with Dexter being punished for his crimes (as the AV Club seems to suggest) as I think that would be pretty underwhelming (though somewhat preferable to the leaked ending...) and mostly missing the point of Dexter in its early seasons.

Well, if we're talking about missing the point of its early seasons...

Remember how Dexter originally just killed people that the "system" couldn't handle? People who were set free on technicalities, or there wasn't enough admissible evidence?

When the heck did that stop? Was it when he purposely messed up the Trinity investigation, or before then? Because nowadays he just screws up every single case he can.


IIRC is season two he monologued about botching a case so he could kill the accused himself.  But even that made me scratch my head because every other victim had been suspected of but never proven guilty of murder.  The impression I got from season one(and the commercials for the show) were that he took out people that had evaded the law by one way or another.  I think that was my first indication that the writers really hadn't thought out the character arc.
 
2013-09-20 05:50:51 PM

Flappyhead: IIRC is season two he monologued about botching a case so he could kill the accused himself. But even that made me scratch my head because every other victim had been suspected of but never proven guilty of murder. The impression I got from season one(and the commercials for the show) were that he took out people that had evaded the law by one way or another. I think that was my first indication that the writers really hadn't thought out the character arc.


I might have to rewatch the first couple seasons sometime. I also think Jimmy Smits purposely set someone free so Dexter could kill the guy, but I don't think it was Dexter's idea.

What I'm wondering is, if Trinity was the first that Dexter made an exception for, did the writers completely learn the wrong lesson about why Season 4 was considered to be pretty good?  Like, did they think "Hey, everyone loved season 4 BECAUSE Dexter took the law completely into his own hands!"?
 
2013-09-20 05:52:57 PM
at this point I want everybody on Dexter to die horribly except maybe Deb and Angel.

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(I like Harry but he's already dead).
 
2013-09-20 06:00:17 PM
So basically Dexter is directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of Doakes, LaGuerta, Rita, and (presumably, if the writers continue going in the direction they seem to be headed) Deb. And he will end up living happily ever after with his girlfriend and son in the magical land of Argentina, cured of his need to kill and unworried about the deaths of loved ones and friends that have occurred due to his actions.

I much prefer the "Breaking Bad" approach to the consequences and repercussions of death than the "Dexter" approach.
 
2013-09-20 06:00:58 PM
Terrible season.

Horrible way to go off the air.

At this point I'd would've taken the Dexter books' explanation for the dark passenger.
 
2013-09-20 06:06:07 PM
So many years spent with Dexter, it's sad to see it end, limping, dawdling to the finish line.
 
2013-09-20 06:07:06 PM
Why are people surprised the season sucked?  Hasn't it sucked through about 90% of it's run?   It's to serialized cable television dramas what James Patterson is to literature.
 
2013-09-20 06:21:58 PM
Maybe it will end with Masuka discovering Dexter is the Bay Harbor Butcher, then being put in protective relocation in LA where he becomes manager of a Buy More. The CIA realizes that Hannah has certain skills, so they fake her execution and set her up with a new life as an agent specializing in seduction and assassinations.
 
2013-09-20 06:22:09 PM

InmanRoshi: Why are people surprised the season sucked?  Hasn't it sucked through about 90% of it's run?   It's to serialized cable television dramas what James Patterson is to literature.


it was good in some seasons and some bits and pieces. Some of the actors were great. Mark Pellegrino (Rita's ex-husband) and John Lithgow were particularly scary. I loved seeing Peter Weller (the Robocop guy) doing a bit-part as a dirty cop messing with Joey. Had a soft spot for Julie Benz (Rita) since she used to play a vampire on Buffy.

And who doesn't like Edward James Olmos. I kept on hoarsely shouting "It's too bad she won't live" during the last season, a la Gaff in Blade Runner.

This season is particularly stinky though - the writers just don't seem to care. and since Hannah came on the scene I just want her and Dexter to die horribly. Everybody sucks except Deb and Angel. And I give those two "maybes" for survival.
 
2013-09-20 06:29:45 PM

FeedTheCollapse: I thought season 5 wasn't bad; it had more to do with progressing Dexter's character, but they attempted to move it forward with a fairly goofy villain. After that, I get the feeling that showrunners who took over after season 4 really weren't interested in where the show was heading and decided to write Dexter into fantastical situations that generally ignored the idea that Dexter doesn't really want to kill and eventually move beyond those compulsion.


After season 5 I wasn't sure I could TAKE IT anymore.  But I plodded on through season 6 and that was it.  I haven't heard anything that makes me regret that decision.
 
2013-09-20 06:32:51 PM
I stopped watching after the Trinity season and Rita was killed. From everything I've read I made the right decision.
 
2013-09-20 06:34:01 PM

Mad_Radhu: Maybe it will end with Masuka discovering Dexter is the Bay Harbor Butcher, then being put in protective relocation in LA where he becomes manager of a Buy More.


I'm not sure I can come up with two more different characters than Tang & Masuka.
 
2013-09-20 06:35:12 PM
The AVClub article is spot-on. Dexter worked best when he abandoned emotion. It also made you care more about the supporting characters because they weren't clued in to his shenanigans.

Rita was the heart of the show, which died along with her. Speaking of which, it's difficult to care about characters when several key ones end up dead.

/I miss Doakes
 
2013-09-20 06:39:39 PM

empres77: Dexter worked best when he abandoned emotion


well, I think the premise of the show is that he does eventually find emotion and is able to empathise with others. The problem is that since Season 5 or so, the writers really have only given a half-ass notice to such an idea (see: Lumen and Hannah) and focused more on Dexter as the vigilante superhero. I think they've sort of recognised the true arch of the show, but not until after they wrote themselves into multiple corners.
 
2013-09-20 06:57:37 PM

FunkOut: From the article :
Dexter is talking like he's trying to hold in a fart, so obviously they belong together!

You see, for serial killers, emotions are like farts.


Never trust them?
 
2013-09-20 07:01:59 PM
I also found it odd that Dr. Vogel was so fascinated with a psycopath's (Dexter's) love for his sister yet didn't give two shiats about the fact that he's a father of a 4 year old.
 
2013-09-20 07:03:04 PM
DeWayne Mann:

I might have to rewatch the first couple seasons sometime. I also think Jimmy Smits purposely set someone free so Dexter could kill the guy, but I don't think it was Dexter's idea.

What I'm wondering is, if Trinity was the first that Dexter made an exception for, did the writers completely learn the wrong lesson about why Season 4 was considered to be pretty good?  Like, did they think "Hey, everyone loved season 4 BECAUSE Dexter took the law completely into his own hands!"?


You may have hit the nail on the head.  Season four showed that Dexter could never really have a normal family life and that exposing his real self put everyone around him in danger.  Ritas death and loss of her two kids seemed to be pushing that home but then it went all consequence free again.  Dexter broke his own rules and it got whitewashed for sake of keeping the show limping forward.
 
2013-09-20 07:03:39 PM
For everyone saying 'Stopped watching after Trinity', Season 5 was highly 'meh', but Season 6 was very solid, IMO. Great preformances by Edward James Olmos and Colin Hanks; give it a look.
 
2013-09-20 07:05:35 PM
First two seasons were phenomenal. After that, blah.
 
2013-09-20 07:07:00 PM

Flappyhead: Season four showed that Dexter could never really have a normal family life and that exposing his real self put everyone around him in danger.


Did you say "Season 4 showed that if Dexter's friends&family were vaguely in danger all the time, that would be really exciting?"

Because that's what the writers heard you say.

RoyFokker'sGhost: Season 6 was very solid, IMO.


Really? I just found it insulting.
 
2013-09-20 07:09:04 PM
While folks are talking about abandoning Dexter after Trinity, frankly Season 2 and 3 were rather mediocre. I think initially what happened was the writers felt having Dexter track a major serial killer each season was predictable, and therefore went for the change. With worse reception, the writers made the excellent decision with Trinity, but then tried to follow this in a different direction with a brutal group; however, the stomach turning nature of them and how forgettable all but one were made this less enjoyable. Along came Doomsday as an authentic serial killer, but the decision to make this into a simultaneous romantic and uncovering arc made the serial killer lower priority and therefore less interesting and less well-devised as the point of the season.

Now, I think the writers are both trying to wrap up the show and save face but are failing at both as a result. Only Season 1 and 4 were great. Frankly, the story should have never been told in such a continual chronological story, especially not centered within the same city. At least, though, another authentic serial killer was introduced, but with the Dr. Vogel side-story meant to purposefully complicate matters and Hannah returned this is again lower priority.
 
2013-09-20 07:13:58 PM

DeWayne Mann: Flappyhead: Season four showed that Dexter could never really have a normal family life and that exposing his real self put everyone around him in danger.

Did you say "Season 4 showed that if Dexter's friends&family were vaguely in danger all the time, that would be really exciting?"

Because that's what the writers heard you say.


I wish I could live in their bubble.
 
2013-09-20 07:15:02 PM

Flappyhead: DeWayne Mann: Flappyhead: Season four showed that Dexter could never really have a normal family life and that exposing his real self put everyone around him in danger.

Did you say "Season 4 showed that if Dexter's friends&family were vaguely in danger all the time, that would be really exciting?"

Because that's what the writers heard you say.

I wish I could live in their bubble.


Their bubble MIGHT have a bunch of serial killers living in it. Just sayin'.
 
2013-09-20 07:19:40 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: For everyone saying 'Stopped watching after Trinity', Season 5 was highly 'meh', but Season 6 was very solid, IMO. could not be salvaged despite Great preformances by Edward James Olmos and Colin Hanks; give it a look

.

FTFY
 
2013-09-20 07:19:55 PM

DeWayne Mann: Flappyhead: DeWayne Mann: Flappyhead: Season four showed that Dexter could never really have a normal family life and that exposing his real self put everyone around him in danger.

Did you say "Season 4 showed that if Dexter's friends&family were vaguely in danger all the time, that would be really exciting?"

Because that's what the writers heard you say.

I wish I could live in their bubble.

Their bubble MIGHT have a bunch of serial killers living in it. Just sayin'.


Yeah but after months of trying to figure out who they are I'd solve the mystery and they'd all conveniantly die with no one asking questions.
 
2013-09-20 07:21:22 PM

Flappyhead: Yeah but after months of trying to figure out who they are I'd solve the mystery and they'd all conveniantly die with no one asking questions.


And, if someone DID ask questions, they'd die too.
 
2013-09-20 07:36:50 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: For everyone saying 'Stopped watching after Trinity', Season 5 was highly 'meh', but Season 6 was very solid, IMO. Great preformances by Edward James Olmos and Colin Hanks; give it a look.


season 6 was the worst season until this one came along. Way too goofy and not quite as grounded in reality. It felt like Dexter fanfiction and didn't really seem like an actual follow-up to what happened in season 5.

Vangor: While folks are talking about abandoning Dexter after Trinity, frankly Season 2 and 3 were rather mediocre.


I thought season 2 was quite good and a natural follow-up to season 1. I do think they perhaps played Doakes a bit too quickly, though I don't think they could've stretched him out beyond another season. I seem to be alone in thinking that season 3 wasn't all that bad; it mostly worked as a transition season that introduced the idea of Dexter being able to share his secret with another person. I think it fell a bit flat mostly due to having a fairly unremarkable villain.
 
2013-09-20 07:53:20 PM

DeWayne Mann: Remember how Dexter originally just killed people that the "system" couldn't handle? People who were set free on technicalities, or there wasn't enough admissible evidence?


Now THIS is what I thought I signed up for.  This is what Season 1 and most of Season 2 were all about.  How Dexter stalks his preys, what crimes they got away with, and that sense of justice, every week.  I usually don't like killer-of-the-week story format, but for Dexter it would've worked very well.

Then it morphed into a kind of soap opera that happens to tangentially involve a serial killer.  I appreciate the "Will Dexter Get Caught" storylines, they were really good the first 4 seasons, but at some point I stopped giving a shiat about Dexter - or anyone else on the show for that matter.  Not a single redeeming, sympathetic character among any of them.  Jennifer Carpenter's character is horribly written, especially that incest angle that nearly destroyed the show and then fizzled.

Both Dexter and Sons of Anarchy are two stories that have written themselves into a corner, with no way out, so they became stupid and improbable and have characters that became dumbed-down for no other reason than to trudge the story along.
 
2013-09-20 07:58:24 PM

The Banana Thug: DeWayne Mann: Remember how Dexter originally just killed people that the "system" couldn't handle? People who were set free on technicalities, or there wasn't enough admissible evidence?

Now THIS is what I thought I signed up for.  This is what Season 1 and most of Season 2 were all about.  How Dexter stalks his preys, what crimes they got away with, and that sense of justice, every week.  I usually don't like killer-of-the-week story format, but for Dexter it would've worked very well.

Then it morphed into a kind of soap opera that happens to tangentially involve a serial killer.  I appreciate the "Will Dexter Get Caught" storylines, they were really good the first 4 seasons, but at some point I stopped giving a shiat about Dexter - or anyone else on the show for that matter.  Not a single redeeming, sympathetic character among any of them.  Jennifer Carpenter's character is horribly written, especially that incest angle that nearly destroyed the show and then fizzled.

Both Dexter and Sons of Anarchy are two stories that have written themselves into a corner, with no way out, so they became stupid and improbable and have characters that became dumbed-down for no other reason than to trudge the story along.


I like that I got to your post right before I wrote mine and said the exact same thing.  I kept watching this season because I wanted to see how it ended, but I haven't watched it since they killed Zach off, and I found that I don't care how it ends.  It's just become unbearable.
 
2013-09-20 08:00:14 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: For everyone saying 'Stopped watching after Trinity', Season 5 was highly 'meh', but Season 6 was very solid, IMO. Great preformances by Edward James Olmos and Colin Hanks; give it a look.


Wait, you're trolling, right?  That is widely regarded as the worst season of Dexter.  I almost lost respect for Colin Hanks as an actor, but decided to give him a pass because his role was horribly written.

Metacritic ratings per season:

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