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(Think Progress)   Catholic University claims it does not have to allow unions because of religious freedom. Guess they've never heard of Rerum Novarum, Quadragesimo Anno, Mater et Magistra, Populorum progressio, Laborem Exercens, Laborem Exercens, or Centesimus Annus   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 74
    More: Fail, Catholic University, Catholics, religious freedom, United Steelworkers, unions, United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Duquesne University  
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2013-09-20 06:00:07 PM

Mithiwithi: Y'know, under Pope Benedict XVI, I doubt the Catholic hierarchy would've lifted a finger to call out Duquesne for this shiat. But Pope Francis... well, there's still the rest of the hierarchy to get in his way, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a papal smackdown. The current pope has definitely surpassed my (admittedly low) expectations for Catholicism promoting the actual teachings of Christ.


if he keeps this up he's gonna get himself killed.  if the Catholic church starts standing up against megacorps and US evangelicals preaching the prosperity gospel, they'll have themselves a right proper holy war in no time flat.
 
2013-09-20 06:01:02 PM

gnosis301: Wait, how is not allowing unions religious freedom?


It's not, and the authors of all those papal encyclicals listed in the headline* would refute the notion that it is.

*Even the one listed twice.
 
2013-09-20 06:04:23 PM

sobriquet by any other name: MODERATORS: When I loaded the thread, i saw this. I thought you'd like to know you're being poached?

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Hello fellow OS X user!

Curious, what coding are you working on? I can see in your background that you are looking at some computer code
 
2013-09-20 06:19:13 PM
 liquorstorebear.files.wordpress.com

/Good pope, bad pope?  No matter, He"s the one on the Chair!
 
2013-09-20 06:39:08 PM
Remember, child rape enabler Bernard Law still has a cushy position at the Vatican.
 
2013-09-20 06:46:49 PM
Start taxing all religious organizations with a specific dollar-amount exemption to protect the small congregations.
 
2013-09-20 06:59:19 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: [i.imgur.com image 770x515]

I have no idea what's going on in this thread, so here are a bunch of creepy Pope Francis Point Break masks.


Interesting that they decided to keep the seven Benedict mask molds in the lower right of the photo...
 
2013-09-20 07:05:22 PM
cman: sobriquet by any other name: MODERATORS: When I loaded the thread, i saw this. I thought you'd like to know you're being poached?

[img89.imageshack.us image 850x631]

Hello fellow OS X user!

Curious, what coding are you working on? I can see in your background that you are looking at some computer code


(aside to cman) Ha! I had only checked after I posted if there was anything personally identifiable in the screen shot. Believe it or not, Fark is dear to me for being the only place I go to where I expect to post under a totally isolate alias. For instance, if I post here, i will never post the same thing on another site. No dots to connect, and so Fark provides me an experimental thought-experiment outlet (or just plain goofiness) that I am thankful for.

But yeah you got it, right now i'm working with D3 - short for Data-Driven-Documents - to create graphs abstracting large volumes of engineering data. In fact, the contract allows me to use my own original framework, in unison with D3, which is turning out *great*.  I dare not be more specific here, but i'll say this, Javascript/HTML is highly under-estimated as a "pro" UI language.

i loves me some javascript, obj-c, python... the rapid-application-development languages. Sure I started with C and MASM, etc, as a youngin' but i  like that the increased power of modern computers are going towards making expression easier, rather than faster. It's a new frontier which the "standard" geek completely misses for breaking that cardinal rule of programming: "premature optimization is the devil"... and the bonus "you can trade speed for time, or time for speed, and either for comprehensibility." They dont teach either in college, the shame of it!

Just to date myself, my first "computer" was a green-on-black terminal from a microcomputer in another part of the house, using the "UNIX" of the day.. "ESIX". How could I  not use osx, today? Linux is okay, but the mac-tax is worth it just to run Quicksilver!

/aside over, game on  :-)
 
2013-09-20 07:28:55 PM
Romanes eunt domus!
 
2013-09-20 07:32:06 PM

runwiz: Start taxing all religious organizations with a specific dollar-amount exemption to protect the small congregations.


If they can operate under the conditions required of a non-profit organization (any of the various types), then they can be entitled to the same tax breaks.

At least that's how it ought to be done.
 
2013-09-20 07:55:24 PM
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc

/not just pretty words
 
2013-09-20 08:01:16 PM

maddogdelta: Romanes eunt domus!


Notice how we had all avoided the painfully obvious Python reference?

/There's always one.,
 
2013-09-20 08:22:28 PM

yeegrek: Benevolent Misanthrope: Flab: You said Laborem Exercens twice.

Subby likes Laborem Exercens.

So is that what the kids are calling it these days?


It's an obscure old-school encyclical.  You've probably never heard of it.
 
2013-09-20 08:32:32 PM

dittybopper: Notice how we had all avoided the painfully obvious Python reference?

/There's always one.,


Oh dear leader, please excuse my transgression! Did I hurt your interwebz?
 
2013-09-20 08:36:01 PM

dittybopper: maddogdelta: Romanes eunt domus!

Notice how we had all avoided the painfully obvious Python reference?

/There's always one.,


No one expects a painfully obvious Python reference!
 
2013-09-20 09:18:39 PM

HighOnCraic: dittybopper: maddogdelta: Romanes eunt domus!

Notice how we had all avoided the painfully obvious Python reference?

/There's always one.,

No one expects a painfully obvious Python reference!


Now *THAT* is how you do a non-obvious Python reference!

Bravo, Bruce.
 
2013-09-20 09:25:06 PM

wooden_badger: Remember, child rape enabler Bernard Law still has a cushy position at the Vatican.


To be fair, the only way Pope Francis is going to be able to clean out all the nasty shiat lurking in the Vatican during his tenure is to divert the Tiber.
 
2013-09-20 09:27:10 PM

Mithiwithi: wooden_badger: Remember, child rape enabler Bernard Law still has a cushy position at the Vatican.

To be fair, the only way Pope Francis is going to be able to clean out all the nasty shiat lurking in the Vatican during his tenure is to divert the Tiber.


Not true. shiat is also combustible if allowed to dry out.
 
2013-09-20 10:37:54 PM

cman: The sad thing is is that if one doesn't understand any of those names one would be considered uneducated and vulgar amongst the elite

If you don't know Latin you are the lowest form of life


Except these are the names of papal decrees, so knowing what they mean (roughly: regarding the revolution, year forty, mother and teacher, people's progress, an exercise regarding labor, and year 100) tells you absolutely fark-all about the actual nature of the decrees and what they say.  Could be a bunch of papers on how many coffee breaks a monk is allowed to take in a day for all we know.
 
2013-09-20 10:40:59 PM

dittybopper: HighOnCraic: dittybopper: maddogdelta: Romanes eunt domus!

Notice how we had all avoided the painfully obvious Python reference?

/There's always one.,

No one expects a painfully obvious Python reference!

Now *THAT* is how you do a non-obvious Python reference!

Bravo, Bruce.


And where would one go to inquire about this snake? A pet shop perhaps?
 
2013-09-20 10:45:48 PM

Peki: dittybopper: HighOnCraic: dittybopper: maddogdelta: Romanes eunt domus!

Notice how we had all avoided the painfully obvious Python reference?

/There's always one.,

No one expects a painfully obvious Python reference!

Now *THAT* is how you do a non-obvious Python reference!

Bravo, Bruce.

And where would one go to inquire about this snake? A pet shop perhaps?



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2013-09-21 12:51:32 PM
Ironic that those who argue loudest to keep the church out of government schools are just as loud about wanting the government involved in church schools.
 
2013-09-21 02:12:37 PM

Cataholic: Ironic that those who argue loudest to keep the church out of government schools are just as loud about wanting the government involved in church schools.


What does that have to do with a Catholic school rejecting over a century of Catholic social teaching about unions?

FTA:  Yet, regardless of how the law views this dispute, Duquesne suggestion that its Catholic affiliation entitles it to ignore the right of workers to organize would probably come as a tremendous shock to the Catholic Church itself. Catholic canon law calls upon employers to "observe meticulously also the civil laws concerning labor and social policy, according to the principles handed on by the Church" and to "pay a just and decent wage to employees so that they are able to provide fittingly for their own needs and those of their dependents." Similarly, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops proclaimed last year that "[o]ur Church has long taught that unions are 'an indispensable element of social life, especially in modern industrialized societies' . . . and are examples of the traditional Catholic principles of solidarity and subsidiarity in action."
 
2013-09-21 08:30:13 PM
I'm sorry, but $10,000 a year to teach 1 class sounds like a perfectly fair wage, and there's nothing wrong with firing a person who's to old to work. At 83, she should have retired long ago, and the fact that she was still allowed to work at the school was nothing short of charity on their part.
 
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