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(BBC)   Greenpeace runs afoul of Russia, optimistically asks for their ship and 30 crewmembers back   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 33
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2013-09-20 04:03:31 PM
7 votes:
"Russia accused Greenpeace of violating an exclusion zone around the rig, but the group said its ship was in international waters."

Fun fact, if a government says "this is an exclusion zone" and can back that up with military force then it's an exclusion zone.
2013-09-20 03:58:46 PM
5 votes:
How many "bad things" has Greenpeace actually stopped outright? I'm not talking about someone saying "ok you win" and then come back the next day after Greenpeace left and do it anway either.. They seem to be nothing but a attention whore organization that doesn't actually accomplish anything
2013-09-20 05:32:31 PM
3 votes:
Every stinking time I think I have completely written off Putin as a vicious, authoritarian thug, he goes and does something that makes me want to cheer loudly. The only thing that could make this better is if he turns their ship into a whaler with state of the art harpoon guns, and sells it to Japan, just to rub their faces in it.
2013-09-20 04:12:45 PM
3 votes:
I love seeing hubris bite idiots in the ass for assuming that every country will behave the way ours will.

/Hey everybody, I have a great idea! Let's go for a nature walk in Iran!
2013-09-20 03:58:03 PM
3 votes:
"The safety of our activists remains our top priority and we are working hard to establish what is facing them," said Ben Ayliffe, head of Greenpeace International's Arctic oil campaign.  "They have done nothing to warrant this level of aggression and have been entirely peaceful throughout," he said.

You can tell that to Putin.  He may only take your ship.
2013-09-20 03:48:41 PM
3 votes:
FTA:
"Four of the Greenpeace activists had tried to board a Gazprom oil rig on Wednesday, to protest against drilling."  and:
"Greenpeace dismissed claims that a safety pod on the ship in any way resembled a bomb."

F em. Same as the crusading missionaries who overstep boundaries then cry for help - you made your bed, now lie in it.
2013-09-20 04:29:14 PM
2 votes:
Four of the Greenpeace activists had tried to board a Gazprom oil rig on Wednesday, to protest against drilling.

"They have done nothing to warrant this level of aggression and have been entirely peaceful throughout," he said.


Isn't trying to board a ship without permission a violation of maritime law?I suppose you could argue that an oil rig is not a ship, but I don't see that argument holding much water.
2013-09-20 04:07:47 PM
2 votes:
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Russia accused Greenpeace of violating an exclusion zone around the rig, but the group said its ship was in international waters.

That doesn't look like international waters from here.

Those guys are lucky to be alive.
2013-09-20 04:01:02 PM
2 votes:

studebaker hoch: "The safety of our activists remains our top priority and we are working hard to establish what is facing them," said Ben Ayliffe, head of Greenpeace International's Arctic oil campaign.  "They have done nothing to warrant this level of aggression and have been entirely peaceful throughout," he said.

You can tell that to Putin.  He may only take your ship.


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I have altered the deal.  Pray I do not alter it further.
2013-09-20 03:52:20 PM
2 votes:

TommyDeuce: Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.

Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.


Bad press...?
2013-09-20 03:50:05 PM
2 votes:
Who, at Greenpeace, thought this was a good idea?

"Let's board a Russian oil rig to raise their awareness!". Ok, I'll be right behind you. In Utah, or as far from the ocean as I can possibly get.

Maybe they can raise the awareness of the North Koreans next.
2013-09-20 03:44:53 PM
2 votes:
Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.
2013-09-20 11:41:35 PM
1 votes:

7FARK7: I'm with Russia on this. Greenpeace can fark off. Russia should start taking the ship apart and using the pieces, then send the asshole crew out on little life boats. Then they could tell someone where to find them, if they wanted to be nice.



Anchor them at the North Pole and let the ice take care of them.

I say.
2013-09-20 06:41:27 PM
1 votes:
TommyDeuce
2013-09-20 03:50:54 PM


Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.

Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.

Bad press? He'd be a farking hero.

Dear Putin,

Chain them to the rails and sink the ship

Sincerely

The rest of the world.
2013-09-20 06:38:35 PM
1 votes:
I was told there would be no consequences in violating the sovereignty of foreign nations and trespassing on private property.
2013-09-20 06:24:04 PM
1 votes:
styckx: How many "bad things" has Greenpeace actually stopped outright? I'm not talking about someone saying "ok you win" and then come back the next day after Greenpeace left and do it anway either.. They seem to be nothing but a attention whore organization that doesn't actually accomplish anything

All they do is draw attention to things. In this case they drew attention to a big Russian drilling platform apparently operating within Russian waters.  They intended to get arrested so they would make international news.

On one hand, we all know about the rig now, so that's mission success for Greenpeace.

On the other...so what if the Russians have a big drilling rig?  Looks nice, actually.  And after the Exxon Valdez and Deepwater Horizon, who are we to tell anyone else how to protect the environment?

Additionally, Greenpeace chose a bad time to do this.  Putin is fresh off a major PR victory taking the moral high ground after Obama's half-hearted move to strike Syrian chemical weapons sites was exposed and then didn't happen.  Here, he has the high ground again and will no doubt use it to the best possible effect to paint Obama as a naive fool.
2013-09-20 05:24:51 PM
1 votes:
Greenpeace needs to stop playing with their dinghy.
2013-09-20 04:50:15 PM
1 votes:

umad: I love seeing hubris bite idiots in the ass for assuming that every country will behave the way ours will.

/Hey everybody, I have a great idea! Let's go for a nature walk in Iran!


Nonsense. I've been reassured that the rest of the world would be Peaceful and Happy if the U.S. were suddenly to disappear beneath the Ocean.
2013-09-20 04:24:04 PM
1 votes:
Not sure who to root for in this.

The Greenpeace'ers ought to be lucky that Russia was charitable enough to JUST arrest them.
2013-09-20 04:17:30 PM
1 votes:
This is pretty serrious.  Here is where I store all the farks I give about it
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Have fun in the gulag, dont drop the soap.   Assuming they give you any.
2013-09-20 04:13:39 PM
1 votes:

bloatboy: Who, at Greenpeace, thought this was a good idea?

"Let's board a Russian oil rig to raise their awareness!". Ok, I'll be right behind you. In Utah, or as far from the ocean as I can possibly get.

Maybe they can raise the awareness of the North Koreans next.


The people that thought it was a good idea are the ones who are now talking to international media about it (with celebrations of success in between).

Greenpeace's entire deal is that they get media attention and try to direct it against their opponents.
2013-09-20 04:11:27 PM
1 votes:

talkertopc: kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).

They have more than one ship.


Perhaps not anymore.
2013-09-20 04:11:20 PM
1 votes:
They're lucky Russia didn't just declare them pirates and dump the bodies at sea.
2013-09-20 04:00:57 PM
1 votes:

cgraves67: They might get their crew members back if they lawyer up before heavy winter hits the Siberian gulags, but Russia will probably scuttle their ship on a coral reef populated entirely with endangered species.


Pretty much this.

I'm sure Greenpeace knows it too. Perhaps that's why they're asking for the crew and ship -ask for more than you expect, so the other guy can cut things and you still win.

And let's be clear, the return of the crew would be a win. The return of the ship would be a miracle.
2013-09-20 04:00:31 PM
1 votes:
First thought - that rig is impressive as hell up close. Damn I love the things we can build.
2013-09-20 04:00:24 PM
1 votes:
I'm sure their ships are eco friendly. Probably burn through more fuel in one trip than Ill use in my life.
2013-09-20 03:59:32 PM
1 votes:
Peter the Great never met a sailor he didn't like.

And he seldom if ever gave any of them back.

That's how he built one of the greatest navies in the world from scratch, although he was also known to pay high wages for shipbuilders and sailors when he could get them honestly.
2013-09-20 03:58:26 PM
1 votes:

Headso: I agree with some of the above posters, if these people are using civil disobedience and interfering with oil exploration as a protest they should be killed.


Hell I'm surprised we're even hearing about it.
2013-09-20 03:56:20 PM
1 votes:
They might get their crew members back if they lawyer up before heavy winter hits the Siberian gulags, but Russia will probably scuttle their ship on a coral reef populated entirely with endangered species.
2013-09-20 03:54:34 PM
1 votes:
I hope they get to do a 20 year study on the environmental impact of a Siberian gulag
2013-09-20 03:53:26 PM
1 votes:

TommyDeuce: Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.

Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.


If theF french can get away with it with only 2 years in jail and a resignation of a minister, then Putin should be fine.
2013-09-20 03:46:16 PM
1 votes:

kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).


They have more than one ship.
2013-09-20 03:40:17 PM
1 votes:
Use it for as a target for practicing against Somali pirates.
 
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