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(BBC)   Greenpeace runs afoul of Russia, optimistically asks for their ship and 30 crewmembers back   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 82
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2013-09-20 03:31:14 PM
Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).
 
2013-09-20 03:40:17 PM
Use it for as a target for practicing against Somali pirates.
 
2013-09-20 03:43:05 PM
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2013-09-20 03:44:53 PM
Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.
 
2013-09-20 03:45:15 PM
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2013-09-20 03:46:16 PM

kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).


They have more than one ship.
 
2013-09-20 03:46:16 PM
They'll return it right after they return Bob Kraft's SuperBowl ring.
 
2013-09-20 03:47:14 PM

kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).


Wasn't that the one the French blew up? Did they replace it?
 
2013-09-20 03:48:41 PM
FTA:
"Four of the Greenpeace activists had tried to board a Gazprom oil rig on Wednesday, to protest against drilling."  and:
"Greenpeace dismissed claims that a safety pod on the ship in any way resembled a bomb."

F em. Same as the crusading missionaries who overstep boundaries then cry for help - you made your bed, now lie in it.
 
2013-09-20 03:50:05 PM
Who, at Greenpeace, thought this was a good idea?

"Let's board a Russian oil rig to raise their awareness!". Ok, I'll be right behind you. In Utah, or as far from the ocean as I can possibly get.

Maybe they can raise the awareness of the North Koreans next.
 
2013-09-20 03:50:44 PM
This is the same vessel they rammed the Japanese Whalers with in 2006, and tried to blocked the Sub Base near Glasgow.
 
2013-09-20 03:50:54 PM

Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.


Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.
 
2013-09-20 03:52:20 PM

TommyDeuce: Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.

Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.


Bad press...?
 
2013-09-20 03:53:26 PM

TommyDeuce: Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.

Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.


If theF french can get away with it with only 2 years in jail and a resignation of a minister, then Putin should be fine.
 
2013-09-20 03:54:34 PM
I hope they get to do a 20 year study on the environmental impact of a Siberian gulag
 
2013-09-20 03:55:04 PM

TommyDeuce: Boojum2k: Russia responds by giving them ocean coordinates. . . and a depth.

Man, Putin would have to pose with two cute puppies to cancel out the bad press from killing Greenpeace activists.


He would have to eat a whole box of puppies to cancel out the good press.
 
2013-09-20 03:55:21 PM
I agree with some of the above posters, if these people are using civil disobedience and interfering with oil exploration as a protest they should be killed.
 
2013-09-20 03:56:20 PM
They might get their crew members back if they lawyer up before heavy winter hits the Siberian gulags, but Russia will probably scuttle their ship on a coral reef populated entirely with endangered species.
 
2013-09-20 03:58:03 PM
"The safety of our activists remains our top priority and we are working hard to establish what is facing them," said Ben Ayliffe, head of Greenpeace International's Arctic oil campaign.  "They have done nothing to warrant this level of aggression and have been entirely peaceful throughout," he said.

You can tell that to Putin.  He may only take your ship.
 
2013-09-20 03:58:26 PM

Headso: I agree with some of the above posters, if these people are using civil disobedience and interfering with oil exploration as a protest they should be killed.


Hell I'm surprised we're even hearing about it.
 
2013-09-20 03:58:46 PM
How many "bad things" has Greenpeace actually stopped outright? I'm not talking about someone saying "ok you win" and then come back the next day after Greenpeace left and do it anway either.. They seem to be nothing but a attention whore organization that doesn't actually accomplish anything
 
2013-09-20 03:59:32 PM
Peter the Great never met a sailor he didn't like.

And he seldom if ever gave any of them back.

That's how he built one of the greatest navies in the world from scratch, although he was also known to pay high wages for shipbuilders and sailors when he could get them honestly.
 
2013-09-20 04:00:24 PM
I'm sure their ships are eco friendly. Probably burn through more fuel in one trip than Ill use in my life.
 
2013-09-20 04:00:31 PM
First thought - that rig is impressive as hell up close. Damn I love the things we can build.
 
2013-09-20 04:00:51 PM
And nothing of value was lost.
 
2013-09-20 04:00:54 PM

alice_600: Headso: I agree with some of the above posters, if these people are using civil disobedience and interfering with oil exploration as a protest they should be killed.

Hell I'm surprised we're even hearing about it.


Putin wants to gloat a bit.

"Greenpeace thought they could scare us. They're now role-playing something from a Solzhenitsyn novel. We will free them in February.

Of 2038."
 
2013-09-20 04:00:56 PM

brantgoose: Peter the Great never met a sailor he didn't like.

And he seldom if ever gave any of them back.

That's how he built one of the greatest navies in the world from scratch, although he was also known to pay high wages for shipbuilders and sailors when he could get them honestly.


Maybe those Greenpeace guys will get brainwashed and land their own show on RT.
 
2013-09-20 04:00:57 PM

cgraves67: They might get their crew members back if they lawyer up before heavy winter hits the Siberian gulags, but Russia will probably scuttle their ship on a coral reef populated entirely with endangered species.


Pretty much this.

I'm sure Greenpeace knows it too. Perhaps that's why they're asking for the crew and ship -ask for more than you expect, so the other guy can cut things and you still win.

And let's be clear, the return of the crew would be a win. The return of the ship would be a miracle.
 
2013-09-20 04:01:02 PM

studebaker hoch: "The safety of our activists remains our top priority and we are working hard to establish what is facing them," said Ben Ayliffe, head of Greenpeace International's Arctic oil campaign.  "They have done nothing to warrant this level of aggression and have been entirely peaceful throughout," he said.

You can tell that to Putin.  He may only take your ship.


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I have altered the deal.  Pray I do not alter it further.
 
2013-09-20 04:03:23 PM

styckx: How many "bad things" has Greenpeace actually stopped outright? I'm not talking about someone saying "ok you win" and then come back the next day after Greenpeace left and do it anway either.. They seem to be nothing but a attention whore organization that doesn't actually accomplish anything


Too lazy to google it, but weren't they partly responsible for the "dolphin free" tuna thing?

/not a greenpeace apologist at all
 
2013-09-20 04:03:31 PM
"Russia accused Greenpeace of violating an exclusion zone around the rig, but the group said its ship was in international waters."

Fun fact, if a government says "this is an exclusion zone" and can back that up with military force then it's an exclusion zone.
 
2013-09-20 04:07:22 PM
This should cause a pussy riot.
 
2013-09-20 04:07:47 PM
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Russia accused Greenpeace of violating an exclusion zone around the rig, but the group said its ship was in international waters.

That doesn't look like international waters from here.

Those guys are lucky to be alive.
 
2013-09-20 04:08:04 PM

kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).


You're not just whistling Dixie, Bubba. The original "Rainbow Warrior" was Sly Stallone, aka Rambo, aka Rocky Balboa.

Think I'm  joking?

Pièce de conviction un:

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-08/entertainment/ca-452_1_new-ra mb o

Pièce de conviction deux:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100101/?ref_=nm_flmg_arf_63

Pièce de conviction trois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Place_to_Hide_(film)

Yep, Rambo is a hippy terrorist. Ronald Reagan was a Liberal Democrat. And "Everything you know is wrong" is a song by Weird Al Yankovitch.

It's a funny old world.
 
2013-09-20 04:11:20 PM
They're lucky Russia didn't just declare them pirates and dump the bodies at sea.
 
2013-09-20 04:11:27 PM

talkertopc: kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).

They have more than one ship.


Perhaps not anymore.
 
2013-09-20 04:12:45 PM
I love seeing hubris bite idiots in the ass for assuming that every country will behave the way ours will.

/Hey everybody, I have a great idea! Let's go for a nature walk in Iran!
 
2013-09-20 04:13:39 PM

bloatboy: Who, at Greenpeace, thought this was a good idea?

"Let's board a Russian oil rig to raise their awareness!". Ok, I'll be right behind you. In Utah, or as far from the ocean as I can possibly get.

Maybe they can raise the awareness of the North Koreans next.


The people that thought it was a good idea are the ones who are now talking to international media about it (with celebrations of success in between).

Greenpeace's entire deal is that they get media attention and try to direct it against their opponents.
 
2013-09-20 04:17:30 PM
This is pretty serrious.  Here is where I store all the farks I give about it
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Have fun in the gulag, dont drop the soap.   Assuming they give you any.
 
2013-09-20 04:21:06 PM

bloatboy: Who, at Greenpeace, thought this was a good idea?

"Let's board a Russian oil rig to raise their awareness!". Ok, I'll be right behind you. In Utah, or as far from the ocean as I can possibly get.

Maybe they can raise the awareness of the North Koreans next.


The town of Kyle, SD looks forward to your visit.  Yes, yes, on your way to a point 11 mi SE, but still...
 
2013-09-20 04:21:22 PM

styckx: How many "bad things" has Greenpeace actually stopped outright? I'm not talking about someone saying "ok you win" and then come back the next day after Greenpeace left and do it anway either.. They seem to be nothing but a attention whore organization that doesn't actually accomplish anything


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2013-09-20 04:22:15 PM

orclover: This is pretty serrious.  Here is where I store all the farks I give about it
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Have fun in the gulag, dont drop the soap.   Assuming they give you any.


In Russia the soap drops you.
 
2013-09-20 04:23:51 PM
In Evil Boomer threads, all oil- related discussion assails the work of Corrupted-Hippie Satan
In Greenpeace threads, all oil related discussion defends the work of Holy Money Jebus
 
2013-09-20 04:24:04 PM
Not sure who to root for in this.

The Greenpeace'ers ought to be lucky that Russia was charitable enough to JUST arrest them.
 
2013-09-20 04:29:14 PM
Four of the Greenpeace activists had tried to board a Gazprom oil rig on Wednesday, to protest against drilling.

"They have done nothing to warrant this level of aggression and have been entirely peaceful throughout," he said.


Isn't trying to board a ship without permission a violation of maritime law?I suppose you could argue that an oil rig is not a ship, but I don't see that argument holding much water.
 
2013-09-20 04:30:24 PM

talkertopc: kbronsito: Isn't their ship called the Rainbow Warrior? I can see why Russia would have a problem with that. (Not that there's anything wrong with it).

They have more than one ship.


Had, they had more then one ship.
 
2013-09-20 04:39:24 PM
I figure this is "Blowback" for all the "Greens" that are actually "Reds".

Support extremist environmentalism in a vain attempt to bring down the capitalist pig-dogs, suffer when they protest you... Or, actually, just shoot them since it never was about the little guy anyway.
 
2013-09-20 04:50:15 PM

umad: I love seeing hubris bite idiots in the ass for assuming that every country will behave the way ours will.

/Hey everybody, I have a great idea! Let's go for a nature walk in Iran!


Nonsense. I've been reassured that the rest of the world would be Peaceful and Happy if the U.S. were suddenly to disappear beneath the Ocean.
 
2013-09-20 04:51:44 PM

cgraves67: They might get their crew members back if they lawyer up before heavy winter hits the Siberian gulags, but Russia will probably scuttle their ship on a coral reef populated entirely with endangered species.


Shipwrecks actually make awesome artificial reefs (you normally remove the oil and such, but whatever).
 
2013-09-20 04:54:01 PM

styckx: How many "bad things" has Greenpeace actually stopped outright? I'm not talking about someone saying "ok you win" and then come back the next day after Greenpeace left and do it anway either.. They seem to be nothing but a attention whore organization that doesn't actually accomplish anything


^^THAT^^
Who the heck is funding an organization, that for the most part, has really done a whole heck of a lot of good with these type of protest? Yes, they have raised awareness on many enviromental issues that have made a difference. But these stunts are pure AW, and dangerous. As another said, you made your bed, now sleep in it.
 
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