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2013-09-20 04:03:14 PM
I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.
 
2013-09-20 04:05:32 PM
Im gonna be a fireman when I grow up.
 
2013-09-20 04:06:18 PM

Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.


You clearly don't play the current generation of board games because that price isn't bad at all. Wait until it is published and then check it out on Amazon, Boards and Bits or Cool Stuff Inc. they will all have it at below MSRP.
 
2013-09-20 04:07:04 PM
eecs.vanderbilt.edu

What a hacker board game looks like
 
2013-09-20 04:07:09 PM
Well, it's not a young lady's illustrated primer, but it's a start.
 
2013-09-20 04:10:01 PM

Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.


you should see the price for the settlers of catan

or ogre

or many other not made by Hasbro
 
2013-09-20 04:13:31 PM

Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.


Ok, how much is a brand new DS game? $25? $30? H0w about a new 360 or PS3 game? $50, $60?

Think about board games this way (especially the new breed from the last 6 years or so):

For $50, you will find games that teach so much more about strategy, planning, negotiation, storytelling, creativity, improvisation, communication, mathematics, spatial concepts, and even fine motor skills. These games will allow an entire family to play in about an hour and a half and put them all face to face, interacting with each other. The better games won't eliminate players (See Catan, Ticket to Ride, etc.) so everyone is playing the whole time, often when it isn't even their turn.

$30 for a good quality game is cheap, especially one that gets even younger kids thinking and working their logic skills like this one. Yes, you can buy a copy of Monopoly for $10 anywhere, but that's the equivalent of iceberg lettuce or Chef Boyardee. It's junk food.

Start here. Your kids will love them. Even some of the older ones. Then buy a copy of Settlers of Catan, TTR, Carcasonne, or Dixit when they get about 8-10. Play often.
 
2013-09-20 04:13:31 PM
Logo reincarnated as a board game?

home.messiah.edu
 
2013-09-20 04:13:48 PM
FTA:  "We all depend on technology - to communicate, to bank, [for] information, and to rip off other people's music - and none of us know how to read and write code," Will.I.Am points out in an online ad for, a nonprofit aimed at making coding more mainstream.

Fixed for accuracy.
 
2013-09-20 04:15:12 PM
This is the kind of pansy-pushing that is putting us behind other nations. Not for me, thanks - I'll be tossing my kids into the 'Robo Rally' deep end, and they'll sink or swim in its grimy mechanical guts, not float in the kids pool on their safe little turtle floaties.

There, in the bowels of hell, they will learn the harsh truth: that failure to program well has dire consequences, often resulting in death, and that the best way to survive is to throw everyone else off the ledge first.
 
2013-09-20 04:16:15 PM

genner: Logo reincarnated as a board game?

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yes!  we had Logo in elementary.  That was awesome.
 
2013-09-20 04:20:59 PM

Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.


$30 isn't too bad considering what the average cost to keep kids entertained is.
 
2013-09-20 04:23:12 PM

loonatic112358: Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.

you should see the price for the settlers of catan

or ogre

or many other not made by Hasbro


No kidding.

I really want Settler's though.

I settled for Munchkin.
 
2013-09-20 04:23:46 PM

Carn: genner: Logo reincarnated as a board game?

[home.messiah.edu image 259x362]

yes!  we had Logo in elementary.  That was awesome.


I loved that.  A spirograph for the computer.
 
2013-09-20 04:30:52 PM
Reminds me of a puzzle from The Island of Dr. Brain (DOS game from 1992).

My 2 year old might like it sometime, so I'll throw it on the ol' Amazon wishlist.
 
2013-09-20 04:33:49 PM

genner: Logo reincarnated as a board game?

[home.messiah.edu image 259x362]


Her past few columns pretty much nails down Elise Hu as a lightweight.
 
2013-09-20 04:36:20 PM

evilmrsock: Robo


here here.  First thing i thought of when i saw the article.
 
2013-09-20 04:40:00 PM

Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.


1980 called, they want you to return your estimation of how much things cost.
 
2013-09-20 04:45:37 PM
My 3 year old wants to be a janitor when he grows up.  One of his favorite toys is the Dirt Devil handheld vacuum.  He actually does a decent job with it.  I'd say he's already cleaning at a 7 year old level.  Is there such a  thing as a janitorial prodigy?  I bought this game for him and his older sister...maybe I can redirect his interests to something that will allow him to take better care of me in my old age.
 
2013-09-20 04:47:16 PM

adrift1827: My 3 year old wants to be a janitor when he grows up.  One of his favorite toys is the Dirt Devil handheld vacuum.  He actually does a decent job with it.  I'd say he's already cleaning at a 7 year old level.  Is there such a  thing as a janitorial prodigy?  I bought this game for him and his older sister...maybe I can redirect his interests to something that will allow him to take better care of me in my old age.


In your old age, you're probably going to want a janitor.
 
2013-09-20 04:59:32 PM

Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.


How much is 2 movie tickets with popcorn & drinks?
 
2013-09-20 05:25:56 PM
A better game for the kids it to have them pretend they're one of those deaf mutes.
 
2013-09-20 05:33:06 PM

loonatic112358: Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.

you should see the price for the settlers of catan

or ogre

or many other not made by Hasbro


And then there's Fantasy Flight.
 
2013-09-20 05:57:41 PM
Not only does it teach kids how to think like a programmer, it also teaches them the importance of shooting things with lasers.  I heartily approve.
 
2013-09-20 06:10:04 PM
i've prior perused the inventor's blogs about launching this, check'emout: http://www.danshapiro.com/blog/
 
2013-09-20 06:11:40 PM

SwingDancer: evilmrsock: Robo

here here.  First thing i thought of when i saw the article.


It's sorta Robo Rally Junior by the looks of it. Not a bad way to introduce the concept.
 
2013-09-20 06:22:57 PM

SwingDancer: evilmrsock: Robo

here here.  First thing i thought of when i saw the article.


You totally hit CTRL+F and then searched for "robo" didn't you? I can tell because you hit the quote button while "robo" was still highlighted.

I want to make a 3D RoboRally board. I have the molds, I just haven't done much with them.

cravengames.com
 
2013-09-20 07:38:56 PM

Wodan11: Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.

1980 called, they want you to return your estimation of how much things cost.


Problem is, what you're getting is a cardboard box with a bunch of paper and cardboard in it. The production cost of something like that mass produced would be much less, making it seem like the purchaser is getting gouged. But board games aren't a mass market item anymore. They're a specialty item with low production runs and low turnover in retail. I don't blame people for having a bit of sticker shock especially when a video game like Angry Birds is priced at $0.99. But it's the nature of the market and a good board game is indeed worth the higher price. Just be sure to read lots of reviews because $30-$50 is a lot to pay for something that turns out to not be your thing.
 
2013-09-20 08:04:16 PM
Or you could give them little hatchets.
 
2013-09-20 09:16:18 PM

EngineerAU: Wodan11: Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.

1980 called, they want you to return your estimation of how much things cost.

Problem is, what you're getting is a cardboard box with a bunch of paper and cardboard in it. The production cost of something like that mass produced would be much less, making it seem like the purchaser is getting gouged. But board games aren't a mass market item anymore. They're a specialty item with low production runs and low turnover in retail. I don't blame people for having a bit of sticker shock especially when a video game like Angry Birds is priced at $0.99. But it's the nature of the market and a good board game is indeed worth the higher price. Just be sure to read lots of reviews because $30-$50 is a lot to pay for something that turns out to not be your thing.


Not anymore.

images.bit-tech.net www.theboardgamefamily.com
www.theboardgamefamily.com www.jinx.com

And those are the first four I thought of immediately with no effort. Of course, those games aren't $30.
 
2013-09-20 10:38:31 PM
I assumed the game in question was Netrunner. DNRTFA, that would cut into my prep time for my next Star Wars D20 game.

Settlers of Catan will always be awesome, despite what the board game snobs might say.
Tsuro: Way of the Path is highly underrated.
Munchkin, I've come to realize, is bullshiat. For the price and the time a game takes, you might as well play Illuminai and get the same effect.
If you have never played Diplomacy, you fail. Play once, with people you don't mind if you don't speak to them for a year afterwards.
Wizards of the Coast can fark itself up the ass with a red-hot rusty serrated pitchfork for firing everyone who happened to be on the Axis & Allies CMG team, effectively discontinuing War at Sea. Screw them and their PoS D&D 4th for ruining a great thing.

AND GO SPEND SOME MONEY AT YOUR FLGS!!!

/UNC_Samurai signing off and headed for the tub
//more skin on HBO
 
2013-09-21 02:04:59 AM
Why? Just start them out with Logo.
 
2013-09-21 03:18:26 PM

bigbadideasinaction: SwingDancer: evilmrsock: Robo

here here.  First thing i thought of when i saw the article.

It's sorta Robo Rally Junior by the looks of it. Not a bad way to introduce the concept.


The frog card is quite an interesting addition to it. It makes it look less brutal than Robo Rally, but more complex in terms of the programming the player can do.
 
2013-09-22 12:12:20 AM

EngineerAU: Wodan11: Gonz: I want to get this for my youngest... but $30? For a board game? That's a little salty.

1980 called, they want you to return your estimation of how much things cost.

Problem is, what you're getting is a cardboard box with a bunch of paper and cardboard in it. The production cost of something like that mass produced would be much less, making it seem like the purchaser is getting gouged.


Nobody goes "$30? For a video game? All you're getting is a disc and a manual!", yet the physical production costs for a board game are drastically higher than for a console game. Your argument makes absolutely no sense, and I appreciate that people will earnestly make it, but they should be throttled just as strongly as people who complain that all video games should cost a dollar because Angry Birds.
 
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