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(Some Guy)   In January 1958, about 100 Ku Klux Klansmen held a rally "To put the Lumbee Indians in their place, and to end race mixing." About 1000 Lumbee showed up brandishing shotguns. Hilarity ensued   (ncpedia.org) divider line 35
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2013-09-20 07:47:11 PM
7 votes:
I've worked with relatives of some of the Lumbees who were at Hayes Pond when they drove out the KKK (getting a kick, etc.) and as part of my job, I hopefully will get to interview the brother of one of the leaders of the "resistance" that kicked the Klan out of Robeson County forever. He's quite elderly and like many of the other Lumbees at Hayes Pond, fought in WWII. Given all the medals the guy got in the war, I reckon a bunch of racist old men and their families was practically child's play.

I think my favourite part about that story (aside from the cheeky photo with the KKK flag in Charlotte, which is classic) is that the idiot who organized the Klan rally happened to bring his wife and kid along (as did a lot of other Klansmen), and he left both of them behind to save his own ass, promptly getting arrested by the local sheriff and tossed in jail for inciting a riot. Supposedly, the wife and kid hopped into a car, tried to quickly escape and got stuck in a ditch. A few Lumbee men were kind enough to push them out and send them on their way.

My second favourite part is that after the Klansmen were routed, the Lumbee took all the robes, flags, etc. back to town and held a rally of their own, even wearing the abandoned robes as a joke. Then, of course, it all got tossed on the bonfire. For them, it was a glorious night. The KKK flag made its way to Charlotte with some Lumbee dudes who were interviewed by national and international press, and of course they posed with it for the classic photo in LIFE magazine.

As a side note, there's a few people (all white or otherwise non-American Indian, in my experience) who think that the Lumbee aren't a "real" American Indian tribe and ought to just be treated as some loose collection of mixed race folks. Ignoring the fact that there's tens of thousands of Lumbee who would take issue with that, they've been struggling to achieve full federal recognition (which they kinda have in name, but certainly not in practice) for a very long time, and in the last few years they've come closer than ever. I hope it happens soon - they deserve it. And they have a rich, full history that deserves more attention than it currently gets. So I'm delighted to see this story end up on Fark.

(I'll shut up and go back to lurking now.)
2013-09-20 05:55:00 PM
6 votes:
When the police can't or won't deal with scum like the KKK (typically because they are part of the scum kkk) then it is the duty of the citizens to take matters into their own hands.

This is not the only incident of well armed minorities ensuring justice.  A 2nd Amendment win.
2013-09-20 06:18:22 PM
5 votes:
There's a story going around about this kind of thing: Seems there was a group of Ku Klux Klansmen in Texas who heard that some Pagans were holding a ritual out in the woods somewhere. Having run out of other minorities to harass, they decided to get back to their roots and practice some religious bigotry in addition to the usual racial intolerance and break up the party with a good ol' cross-burning.So anyway, these fellows loaded up some lumber and a couple of cans of gasoline and went out hunting for these Pagans they'd heard about, hoping to catch them dancing nekkid around a fire or something.They found the spot where the other vehicles were parked and donned their hoods. Grabbing the lumber and gasoline, they assembled a cross and strode off into the woods, confident that they'd scare any remaining pants off the fluffybunny Pagans.They were a little disconcerted to find themselves looking at the business end of at least 2 spears, a couple of swords, assorted knives, and more than one firearm. They'd crashed an Asatru blot and didn't realize that not all Pagans are pacifists.From somewhere behind the hardware, a voice called out "If that cross goes up, you're getting nailed to it. I've got my hammer right here..."The Klansmen left in a bit of a hurry, it's said.Apparently one of my froiends in the local Pagan scene knows the group this happened to: The Hammer of Thor Protokindred out of Lubbock, TX./As a friend of mine used to say: "We practice the old ways. None of this turning the other cheek crap. Fark with us and we'll get you."
2013-09-20 06:22:21 PM
4 votes:

RanDomino: The Ku Klux Klan was active in North Carolina into the 1960s, but they never held another public meeting in Robeson County.

Hey liberals, tell me another bed-time story about how violence never works.




Interesting that you put the side of the "liberals" on the Native American side, which would leave the "conservatives" as being the KKK members, who when faced in an actual gun-toting situation, all ran like roaches for dark places instead of bootstrapping up.

Yes, very interesting....

Also note that the liberals fired shots into the air, and not into congress people you disagree with, school children, or shipyards full of people just doing their jobs.
2013-09-20 05:55:34 PM
4 votes:
Those people...clinging to their guns and religion
2013-09-20 05:33:56 PM
4 votes:
And a good time was enjoyed by all ... the Lumbee.
2013-09-20 10:17:25 PM
2 votes:

HeartBurnKid: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x290]
Approves.


Yup. That dude actually IS a Lumbee.
2013-09-20 08:11:30 PM
2 votes:

HeartBurnKid: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x290]
Approves.


www.pwhf.org

Also approves!
2013-09-20 07:53:14 PM
2 votes:

Centurion Wind: I've worked with relatives of some of the Lumbees who were at Hayes Pond when they drove out the KKK (getting a kick, etc.) and as part of my job, I hopefully will get to interview the brother of one of the leaders of the "resistance" that kicked the Klan out of Robeson County forever. He's quite elderly and like many of the other Lumbees at Hayes Pond, fought in WWII. Given all the medals the guy got in the war, I reckon a bunch of racist old men and their families was practically child's play.

I think my favourite part about that story (aside from the cheeky photo with the KKK flag in Charlotte, which is classic) is that the idiot who organized the Klan rally happened to bring his wife and kid along (as did a lot of other Klansmen), and he left both of them behind to save his own ass, promptly getting arrested by the local sheriff and tossed in jail for inciting a riot. Supposedly, the wife and kid hopped into a car, tried to quickly escape and got stuck in a ditch. A few Lumbee men were kind enough to push them out and send them on their way.

My second favourite part is that after the Klansmen were routed, the Lumbee took all the robes, flags, etc. back to town and held a rally of their own, even wearing the abandoned robes as a joke. Then, of course, it all got tossed on the bonfire. For them, it was a glorious night. The KKK flag made its way to Charlotte with some Lumbee dudes who were interviewed by national and international press, and of course they posed with it for the classic photo in LIFE magazine.

As a side note, there's a few people (all white or otherwise non-American Indian, in my experience) who think that the Lumbee aren't a "real" American Indian tribe and ought to just be treated as some loose collection of mixed race folks. Ignoring the fact that there's tens of thousands of Lumbee who would take issue with that, they've been struggling to achieve full federal recognition (which they kinda have in name, but certainly not in practice) for a very long time, and in the last few years they've come closer than ever. I hope it happens soon - they deserve it. And they have a rich, full history that deserves more attention than it currently gets. So I'm delighted to see this story end up on Fark.

(I'll shut up and go back to lurking now.)


Awesomeness. Thanks for the details
2013-09-20 06:31:24 PM
2 votes:
Events like this are exactly why democrats started passing gun control laws.
The Racist Roots of Gun Control
2013-09-20 06:18:38 PM
2 votes:

SithLord: I guess 2nd Amendment works, right libbies?


Just because they changed their name and don't burn crosses on people's lawns anymore, doesn't change the fact that they only consider European-Americans to be the only REAL Americans, and are quite vocal about it.
2013-09-20 06:16:57 PM
2 votes:
Sometimes, the only way to deal with weapons-grade stupidity is with weapons.
2013-09-20 06:04:05 PM
2 votes:

stirfrybry: OgreMagi: When the police can't or won't deal with scum like the KKK (typically because they are part of the scum kkk) then it is the duty of the citizens to take matters into their own hands.

This is not the only incident of well armed minorities ensuring justice.  A 2nd Amendment win.

Welcome to 60 years ago!!


And yet narrow minded assholes who think committing violence against people they don't like for some obscure reason are still around.
2013-09-20 05:59:29 PM
2 votes:
I guess 2nd Amendment works, right libbies?
2013-09-20 05:57:07 PM
2 votes:
i154.photobucket.com

not so fun when the groups you're trying to oppress have guns too, is it???

\couldn't find the HA HA Nelson in my Photobucket so this will have to do
2013-09-21 04:39:17 PM
1 votes:
radarlove
The KKK is still America's largest hate group and still disenfranchises/tortures/murders hundreds of minorities every year.

So...it didn't work.


It wasn't tried everywhere. Let's see the stats for this county.


420Gabriel
Now its time for people to stop treating the WBC so gently. Instead of letting them scream their lunacy, have a big group show up and beat the shiat out of them. They might want a reason to sue, but they dont want to die over it.

That's not an effective way of breaking up a cult. Those people need deprogramming. Putting pressure on a cult causes it to go off the deep end and implode in a way that is usually in the headlines for a few weeks.
2013-09-21 05:50:59 AM
1 votes:

jamspoon: SithLord: I guess 2nd Amendment works, right libbies?

How many of them had automatic weapons?

If they'd had modern weapons it would have only taken itchy trigger squeeze and there'd have been a bloodbath


In 1958? Some of them probably had machine guns. You could still buy your service rifle after your enlistment was done at the time and you could bring back war trophies. Not to mention the Civilian Marksmanship Program, no background checks, and mail order firearms.The country has been awash in 'military style' magazine fed semi-auto firearms for quite some time comrade.

Still think the whole situation was amusing.
2013-09-21 01:10:29 AM
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal"
                       -  Omar Shariff


Actually, that'd be Vigo Mortensen.

(favorite movie is Hidalgo) ;)
2013-09-20 11:12:41 PM
1 votes:

snowshovel: Interesting that you put the side of the "liberals" on the Native American side, which would leave the "conservatives" as being the KKK members, who when faced in an actual gun-toting situation, all ran like roaches for dark places instead of bootstrapping up.

Yes, very interesting....

Also note that the liberals fired shots into the air, and not into congress people you disagree with, school children, or shipyards full of people just doing their jobs.


Turpentine isn't intended for drinking. Your first part is nonsense that comes about due to some delusional reading talent you're utilizing. The second half alludes to an anti-globalist socialist and two outright psychotics.

It's like you're trying to be nonsensical. In that regards, kudos.

jso2897: Gotta love the right-wing gun freaks trying to co-opt the civil rights movement - when, in that time, they would have been on the other side - and were. Check your history.


You might want to check your history. The gun nuts were generally on the side of the minorities. The gun control activists were generally reactionaries against minorities with guns.
2013-09-20 10:05:25 PM
1 votes:
Awesome. Never heard about this before, and my dad is a Lumbee. I'll have to forward this to him, although I'm sure he's heard about it.
2013-09-20 07:33:50 PM
1 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com
Approves.
2013-09-20 07:01:47 PM
1 votes:
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
2013-09-20 06:58:16 PM
1 votes:

mllawso: radarlove: The KKK is still America's largest hate group and still disenfranchises/tortures/murders hundreds of minorities every year. a shadow of what it was, who's membership fell from 4-5 million, to 5 thousand at best. Who's members were found "not guilty" of heinous crimes despite overwhelming evidence, to being actively pursued by law enforcement and convicted in state and federal courts.

Fixed that for you.


Sorry you're right, I just checked the stats and the KKK was bumped off of the Largest Hate Group spot five years ago.  My bad.  The rest of what I said still stands.
2013-09-20 06:53:04 PM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: radarlove: RanDomino: The Ku Klux Klan was active in North Carolina into the 1960s, but they never held another public meeting in Robeson County.

Hey liberals, tell me another bed-time story about how violence never works.

The KKK is still America's largest hate group and still disenfranchises/tortures/murders hundreds of minorities every year.

So...it didn't work.

Violence is like an ointment for a rash.  You don't want it all the time, but you definitely need to apply it when the problem occurs.


But that's just my point, the problem is still going on and never really stopped at all.  Even in that county them farkers just went underground. I don't think any of us need to dig up the statistics to know that the Klan is likely responsible for multiple incidents of violence against minorities in that area, even if they're not as audacious about it as they used to be.

So either we're going to need a lot more ointment, or we need to figure out a way to treat the root causes of the disease instead of just the symptoms.

I'd prefer the latter as I suspect it's the only thing that'll really work, but I suppose I'll enjoy watching the former as well.
2013-09-20 06:51:17 PM
1 votes:

radarlove: The KKK is still America's largest hate group and still disenfranchises/tortures/murders hundreds of minorities every year.

a shadow of what it was, who's membership fell from 4-5 million, to 5 thousand at best. Who's members were found "not guilty" of heinous crimes despite overwhelming evidence, to being actively pursued by law enforcement and convicted in state and federal courts.

Fixed that for you.
2013-09-20 06:50:00 PM
1 votes:
5 or 10 to 1 odds and armed against a group that threatened people you know and wanted to take away your rights and no significant body count? I'd say the Lumbees exercised some amazing restraint. Were it the other way around I'm sure the body count would be quite high.
2013-09-20 06:29:28 PM
1 votes:

RanDomino: The Ku Klux Klan was active in North Carolina into the 1960s, but they never held another public meeting in Robeson County.

Hey liberals, tell me another bed-time story about how violence never works.


There was a sign on I95 right at the Cumberland County line that said 'Welcome to Klan Kountry' for years.
2013-09-20 06:27:33 PM
1 votes:

ClavellBCMI: jamspoon: SithLord: I guess 2nd Amendment works, right libbies?

How many of them had automatic weapons?

If they'd had modern weapons it would have only taken itchy trigger squeeze and there'd have been a bloodbath

Hell, I'm surprised one of 'em didn't have an old Tommy gun with them. One 100-round drum of .45 ACP would have done the job.


Gotta love the right-wing gun freaks trying to co-opt the civil rights movement - when, in that time, they would have been on the other side - and were. Check your history.
2013-09-20 06:24:18 PM
1 votes:
Now with line breaks.  Fark me for not previewing.

There's a story going around about this kind of thing:

Seems there was a group of Ku Klux Klansmen in Texas who heard that some Pagans were holding a ritual out in the woods somewhere. Having run out of other minorities to harass, they decided to get back to their roots and practice some religious bigotry in addition to the usual racial intolerance and break up the party with a good ol' cross-burning.

So anyway, these fellows loaded up some lumber and a couple of cans of gasoline and went out hunting for these Pagans they'd heard about, hoping to catch them dancing nekkid around a fire or something.They found the spot where the other vehicles were parked and donned their hoods. Grabbing the lumber and gasoline, they assembled a cross and strode off into the woods, confident that they'd scare any remaining pants off the fluffybunny Pagans.

They were a little disconcerted to find themselves looking at the business end of at least 2 spears, a couple of swords, assorted knives, and more than one firearm.

They'd crashed an Asatru blot and didn't realize that not all Pagans are pacifists.

From somewhere behind the hardware, a voice called out, "If that cross goes up, you're getting nailed to it. I've got my hammer right here..."

The Klansmen left in a bit of a hurry, it's said.

Apparently one of my friends in the local Pagan scene knows the group this happened to: The Hammer of Thor Protokindred out of Lubbock, TX.

/As a friend of mine used to say: "We practice the old ways. None of this turning the other cheek crap. Fark with us and we'll get you."
2013-09-20 06:13:56 PM
1 votes:
Egalitarian


I too, own several firearms. Some people cannot wrap their head around the fact that I am "liberal" as well. It's great fun at the gun shows here in Texas.
2013-09-20 06:12:31 PM
1 votes:

RanDomino: The Ku Klux Klan was active in North Carolina into the 1960s, but they never held another public meeting in Robeson County.

Hey liberals, tell me another bed-time story about how violence never works.


The KKK is still America's largest hate group and still disenfranchises/tortures/murders hundreds of minorities every year.

So...it didn't work.
2013-09-20 06:12:14 PM
1 votes:
To be fair though, Afghanistan is poor bed-time story material. More of a "you should have learned your lesson 20 years ago" kind of a story...


/100 years ago
//250 years ago
///400 years ago
///etc,etc.........
2013-09-20 06:08:40 PM
1 votes:

Choo-Choo Bear: Clicking on the KKK banner picture towards the bottom gets you to the January 1958 issue of Life magazine, with some pretty funny old adverts.


Hey, there's a watch in here that can stop time! Got 50 cents?
2013-09-20 06:04:25 PM
1 votes:
rehash the past!!!
2013-09-20 06:03:25 PM
1 votes:
The Ku Klux Klan was active in North Carolina into the 1960s, but they never held another public meeting in Robeson County.

Hey liberals, tell me another bed-time story about how violence never works.
 
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