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(Wired)   Homeless, unemployed, and surviving on bitcoins. THAT'S THE JOKE   (wired.com) divider line 92
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2013-09-20 08:03:01 AM
WTF did I just read.

Also, I guess I'll be programming some bots to steal money from this Bitcoins for watching youtube company until they go out of business like every other paid-to-watch-ads company that ever existed.
 
2013-09-20 08:30:39 AM
I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.
 
2013-09-20 08:55:08 AM
Better then begging.
 
2013-09-20 09:08:46 AM
Good for them. I'm sure it's dull watching those videos, but it's an honest dollar and hopefully just something to bridge the gap until they find something better.
 
2013-09-20 09:16:24 AM
He can watch up to 12 videos a day, which gets him to about 60 cents.

Aluminum cans, dude. You get a 5 cent deposit back on each one.
 
2013-09-20 09:30:51 AM

Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.


I thought the headline was ripping more on bitcoins themselves, rather than wired homeless people.
 
2013-09-20 09:37:19 AM

NutWrench: He can watch up to 12 videos a day, which gets him to about 60 cents.

Aluminum cans, dude. You get a 5 cent deposit back on each one.


Depends on where you live...  people who live in states where there are deposits seem to think the concept is ubiquitous across the U.S., but, only 11 states actually have deposits on bottles/cans...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_deposit_legislation_in_the_Uni t ed_States

Florida is not one of them, so, this guy is out of luck on your brilliant idea.
 
2013-09-20 09:47:02 AM
Cute dog though.
 
2013-09-20 09:47:57 AM
Dude, quit smoking!
 
2013-09-20 09:50:36 AM
Move over Fark, I got kids to feed.
 
2013-09-20 09:52:26 AM
Can someone tell me how hard it is to "mine" bitcoins? Does it like take over your entire computer while doing it, or do you need a ridiculously powerful one? Kinda surprised no mention of that was made... why aren't these guys running mathematical equations in the background while they watch youtube videos to make more bitcoins?

Also the pic of the guy with the laptop and his dog and the cigarette hanging out of his mouth "losing a game" is amusing and needs a caption.
 
2013-09-20 09:57:42 AM

reggaejunkiejew: Also the pic of the guy with the laptop and his dog and the cigarette hanging out of his mouth "losing a game" is amusing and needs a caption.


Yeah, for some reason, make me chuckle as well... I think just seeing a guy in the middle of a park "befuddled" over their video game, just out of sorts.
 
2013-09-20 10:01:12 AM

reggaejunkiejew: Can someone tell me how hard it is to "mine" bitcoins? Does it like take over your entire computer while doing it, or do you need a ridiculously powerful one? Kinda surprised no mention of that was made... why aren't these guys running mathematical equations in the background while they watch youtube videos to make more bitcoins?

Also the pic of the guy with the laptop and his dog and the cigarette hanging out of his mouth "losing a game" is amusing and needs a caption.


It does run in the background, but it doesnt net much money.
 
2013-09-20 10:04:39 AM

jigger: Dude, quit smoking!


Dude's playing video games too.  I don't care what they do in their spare time, but if that was me I'd be job searching.
 
2013-09-20 10:06:24 AM
Bitcoins, foodstamps, and church charity.
 
2013-09-20 10:09:37 AM

reggaejunkiejew: Can someone tell me how hard it is to "mine" bitcoins? Does it like take over your entire computer while doing it, or do you need a ridiculously powerful one? Kinda surprised no mention of that was made... why aren't these guys running mathematical equations in the background while they watch youtube videos to make more bitcoins?

Also the pic of the guy with the laptop and his dog and the cigarette hanging out of his mouth "losing a game" is amusing and needs a caption.


mining is going to be a thing of the past very soon for the average user.  The next gen asics chips are going to destroy all GPU's that haven't already dropped out.  The price of the big Asics are out of the realm for normal users and most people are going to end up having to buy shares of someone's large rig which the owner of the rig makes a lot while you make barely ROI.
 
2013-09-20 10:10:11 AM
There is no way that this is not satire.
 
2013-09-20 10:11:04 AM
What's stopping the guy from having 20 bitcoin wallets and making $12 a day?
 
2013-09-20 10:16:19 AM
I think it's sad that society has left these mentally ill people behind.  We need universal health care so that doctors can spend the time needed to properly help people who believe in Bitcoins.
 
2013-09-20 10:16:30 AM
Can he use his Obamaphone to mine the bitcoins? Brilliant!
 
2013-09-20 10:18:21 AM

reggaejunkiejew: Can someone tell me how hard it is to "mine" bitcoins? Does it like take over your entire computer while doing it, or do you need a ridiculously powerful one? Kinda surprised no mention of that was made... why aren't these guys running mathematical equations in the background while they watch youtube videos to make more bitcoins?

Also the pic of the guy with the laptop and his dog and the cigarette hanging out of his mouth "losing a game" is amusing and needs a caption.


It's not that it's hard, it's that it's _increasingly_ hard.  Probably could have done exactly what you said a few years ago when they first came out, but now most miners are using specialized rigs.  Basically, the algorithm that generates the bitcoins was designed to get harder as things went along... and they're at the point now where to get anything you have to get hardware specifically for it.

Then, of course, you realize you spent real money to get fake money.
 
2013-09-20 10:18:59 AM

Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.


I'm not sure how this is bettering himself.  Pretty sure the local grocery doesn't accept bitcoins in payment.  I'm also pretty sure that rather than watching promoted videos he'd be better off watching stuff at Kahn Academy, or interacting with actual people looking for actual work.
 
2013-09-20 10:22:05 AM

Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.


dgc.imageg.net

Have a cup and calm down.
 
2013-09-20 10:23:37 AM

sentex: Better then THAN begging.


FFS
 
2013-09-20 10:26:32 AM
So some company pays you to read adds but they pay you very little so the only people who do it are too poor to actually purchase any of the items in the ads.  Why exactly do companies pay a contractor to get homeless people to see their ads then?
 
2013-09-20 10:26:38 AM

Glitchwerks: Dude's playing video games too. I don't care what they do in their spare time, but if that was me I'd be job searching.


Don't worry, Eric Cantor will take care of guys like him.
 
2013-09-20 10:27:27 AM

Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.


I don't think $0.60 a day really is making their life better
 
2013-09-20 10:28:12 AM
Those homeless guys have nice laptops. I bet they are Obamatops.


/god that was hard to type.
 
2013-09-20 10:38:45 AM
from TFA

The park offers free wireless access, and with his laptop, Angle watches YouTube videos in exchange for bitcoins, the world's most popular digital currency.

So much fail in this one sentence.
 
2013-09-20 10:42:09 AM
Terrible or not, I wish I had bought some when my friends were talking about them right when Bitcoins started up.
 
2013-09-20 10:45:24 AM
I start to feel bad about myself when I realize homeless people have/utilize more technology than I do in a typical day.
 
2013-09-20 10:48:43 AM

sentex: Better then begging.


Is it, I wonder? Begging connects you to people, and perhaps more importantly, it connects them to you. In many religions, time spent begging is considered to be good for the soul. Modern Western society has tried to stamp out the process as "undignified," but I'm not sure that what we've replaced it with has really proven to be much better. We've cut ourselves off from the needy as being Somebody Else's Problem, to the point where even most self-described champions of the poor don't really have much desire to actually interact with them. I'm not sure this solves the problem.

It's kind of neat that these homeless people have managed to scrape up a means of surviving on Bitcoin alone. But is it good, in general or even just for them? I'm not so certain.
 
2013-09-20 10:53:03 AM

Fizpez: I start to feel bad about myself when I realize homeless people have/utilize more technology than I do in a typical day.


Why? Do you feel your existence is diminished by you not using technology? It seems odd to me to lament not having enough issues for your tools to fix.
/IT guy
 
2013-09-20 10:54:10 AM

Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.


If the middle class are angry at the poor, it keeps them from being angry at the rich.
 
2013-09-20 10:58:08 AM

Glitchwerks: jigger: Dude, quit smoking!

Dude's playing video games too.  I don't care what they do in their spare time, but if that was me I'd be job searching.


Do you know many jobs that will let you walk into an interview without a decent/clean set of clothes and at least a basic level of grooming (which I would describe as having rolled around in potpourri if you're one of those hippy never-wash types).

Maybe there's some local resources that can help in that respect, but I expect most of the homeless hardly have a clean set of clothes, let alone are able to groom to an extent needed not to have the door just slammed in your face.

That said.

If you have a laptop, you might be able to find virtual work that doesn't involve a face to face meeting. I don't know they are still around, but a years back you there were sites where people posted basically looking for freelance programming work (or various equivalent things). If you have nothing else to do, you could probably pick up a few languages to a sufficient degree and make a couple bucks that way. But I'm basically talking out my ass in that regard, I have no idea what sort of roadblocks might exist even if this concept is feasible.
 
2013-09-20 11:02:27 AM

ltdanman44: Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.

I just don't get it.

If the middle class are angry at the poor, it keeps them from being angry at the rich.


^this^
 
2013-09-20 11:04:14 AM

Egoy3k: So some company pays you to read adds but they pay you very little so the only people who do it are too poor to actually purchase any of the items in the ads.  Why exactly do companies pay a contractor to get homeless people to see their ads then?


The company is probably just selling "clicks" to clueless advertisers. They don't care if the people clicking can actually use the heartily endorsed product and or service (use Krusty's voice to read that).
 
2013-09-20 11:06:02 AM
Watching videos for bitcoins. He could make more money doing pretty much anything else.
 
2013-09-20 11:14:19 AM

reggaejunkiejew: Can someone tell me how hard it is to "mine" bitcoins? Does it like take over your entire computer while doing it, or do you need a ridiculously powerful one?


As mentioned, you need dedicated hardware if you want to do any serious mining. A computer with a high-end graphics card running 24/7 might make enough to pay for its own electricity and leave you with a small monthly profit (as in, enough for a TF subscription but not for your car payments). I ran my computer for several months last year and made about 1.7 BTC. I didn't calculate the added electricity cost, but it doesn't really matter since it was also helping to heat my house.
 
2013-09-20 11:16:47 AM

Rincewind53: I've never understood people like Subby. Do they think that homeless people should be wallowing in their own feces all day rather than trying to better themselves? I mean, some people seem angry at the idea that a homeless person might have a smartphone, as if it's somehow a personal affront, and by god those homeless people should just never have anything useful because every single penny should go towards food and saving up for, what, a single month in a hotel room? And god forbid you tell subby that almost all employment requires a cellphone for contact these days.


Yeah, I've heard assholes ranting about homeless people with cellphones like it means they have a jacuzzi in their refrigerator boxes and champagne on tap. It's 2013, idiots.

While I have no interest in bitcoin mining (you'd make more per day recycling cans on the side of the road), if I suddenly found myself homeless and destitute then acquiring a cellphone would be my number two priority, right after some food. Yes, I'd put it ahead of shelter, especially if I were located in Florida like this guy.

Cellphones are cheap. In college I had a prepaid one that cost me about $10 a month for enough minutes to get by. That's about $0.33 a day, an amount of money I could probably find by keeping my eye on the pavement for half an hour.

And it's the single most useful device to have. I can look for a shelter, keep in touch with any people who might be able to put me up for the night, inquire about local oddjobs, call the police if I'm in danger, etc. And if I eventually intend to dig myself out, I will need a job, and how is anyone supposed to contact me when I apply for one? Am I expected to put a payphone's number on my application and camp out next to it? Good luck even finding one nowadays.
 
2013-09-20 11:17:14 AM
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2013-09-20 11:21:48 AM
FTFA:

For every video he watches, Angle gets 0.0004 bitcoins, or about 5 cents, thanks to a service, called BitcoinGet, that shamelessly drives artificial traffic to certain online clips. He can watch up to 12 videos a day, which gets him to about 60 cents. And he can beef up this daily take with Bitcoin Tapper, a mobile app that doles out about 0.000133 bitcoins a day - a couple of pennies - if he just taps on a digital icon over and over again.
That's farking pathetic in a country that still makes dictators shiat their pants. But that's America for you: the System has lasted this long because no matter how bad off you are you can always make yourself feel better by kicking somebody who's got less money, less power and is more farked-over than you are. Instead of standing up for yourselves and organizing to fight back. "Who needs a union? Living in a 'Right To Work' state gives me lots of homeless guys to spit on!"

As I've said since 1978 during my longest stretch of homelessness, homeless people should organize into a guild or union or party or something for mutual assistance and collective empowerment. For one thing, as much as I hate the idea of electoral politics, registering to vote might help: in a city with a large homeless population the down-and-out could protect their own interests in local elections. E.g., what's wrong with setting aside some city/county property where it is legal to camp?
 
2013-09-20 11:23:00 AM
Simplyhired dot com lists 8991 jobs currently available in Pensacola.
 
2013-09-20 11:30:53 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Simplyhired dot com lists 8991 jobs currently available in Pensacola.


And how many of those will hire a homeless person?  Maybe 2 at best.
 
2013-09-20 11:31:26 AM

The One True TheDavid: FTFA:

For every video he watches, Angle gets 0.0004 bitcoins, or about 5 cents, thanks to a service, called BitcoinGet, that shamelessly drives artificial traffic to certain online clips. He can watch up to 12 videos a day, which gets him to about 60 cents. And he can beef up this daily take with Bitcoin Tapper, a mobile app that doles out about 0.000133 bitcoins a day - a couple of pennies - if he just taps on a digital icon over and over again.That's farking pathetic in a country that still makes dictators shiat their pants. But that's America for you: the System has lasted this long because no matter how bad off you are you can always make yourself feel better by kicking somebody who's got less money, less power and is more farked-over than you are. Instead of standing up for yourselves and organizing to fight back. "Who needs a union? Living in a 'Right To Work' state gives me lots of homeless guys to spit on!"

As I've said since 1978 during my longest stretch of homelessness, homeless people should organize into a guild or union or party or something for mutual assistance and collective empowerment. For one thing, as much as I hate the idea of electoral politics, registering to vote might help: in a city with a large homeless population the down-and-out could protect their own interests in local elections. E.g., what's wrong with setting aside some city/county property where it is legal to camp?


A lot actually. Annually our county cleans up a popular "camp" area. They post notices around and give them 48 hours to evacuate. The cleaners have to where masks, heavy footwear, and heavy gloves. The place is usually strewn with needles, broken glass, makeshift weapons, and human waste. The spend a week throwing away the crap and detoxifying the site only to have it trashed a month later, but there is only enough money for a yearly clean up. Neighbors that live around the area are constantly having break-ins and things stolen from their yards. It is a major problem here even though we have tons of resources to take care of the homeless. Our shelter is only 30% full, but their rules are no fighting, no drinking, and no drug use so most the homeless don't even bother.
 
2013-09-20 11:34:17 AM
Umm, where's the Satire tag?  There is no way this story is real.
 
2013-09-20 11:36:30 AM
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WTF? Stop standing in the fire and stop using Growl!!!
 
2013-09-20 11:37:30 AM
Still never found out this guy's Fark handle:

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2013-09-20 11:38:36 AM

Millennium: It's kind of neat that these homeless people have managed to scrape up a means of surviving on Bitcoin alone.


Except that they aren't. It says that this guy is on food stamps and gets food/shelter/power from local charitable organizations. The Bitcoin mining is getting him about $4 per day.
 
2013-09-20 11:39:17 AM

ROFLSAUCE: whatisthisidonteven.jpg

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Is that Ethan Suplee?
 
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