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(Politico)   Clinton: "Yeah, this baby will fly down the roads. PLUS, it looks so good you'll get all the tang you want" GWB: "I dunno about you, but this truck is for *real* men" Obama: "This car...she's nice and all but...I dunno, ever thought of just walking?"   (politico.com) divider line 32
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2013-09-20 07:59:05 AM
the GOP in 2008 and 2012:

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2013-09-20 08:00:00 AM
So, the fact that our current President doesn't have the demeanor and attitude of a used car salesman is now a bad thing.

Okay.

lol
 
2013-09-20 08:06:39 AM
Politico sounds concerned
 
2013-09-20 08:13:13 AM

Lost Thought 00: Politico sounds concerned


it's politico, they are on the politics tab (mostly by me) because they give such great material for amusing headlines

or sarcastic headlines

or amusingly sarcastic headlines

look, are you gonna buy this excuse or not, my manager is threatening to fire me if I can't convince enough farkers the validity of Politico stories in our fark tab and I...aw jeez, I just had that headline polished!

Hey honey, oh you should've seen me, my headlines were amazing and fantastic and really brought about the laughs and....well yes, it was a politico story. WHAT? No no, baby. Please, it's still green, don't worry and...is that the Geek tab I hear? NO DON'T PUT IT ON-hey hey, geek tab....so how's that curiosity story?

/yes, I just did an entire Gill scene in my mind.
//stop looking at me like that
 
2013-09-20 08:23:12 AM
ftfa: Polls out this week showed that among people who say they understand the law well, Obamacare's over twice as popular as among people who say they're still confused.

Ever wonder why that might be?

*notices it's a Politico link*

Well, never mind then.
 
2013-09-20 08:30:52 AM
palpable concern

throbbing, engorged, tumescent concern

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-20 08:31:34 AM
concern looms, pendulous, expectant
 
2013-09-20 08:32:54 AM
Wait, are we talking about the car as a metaphor for the economy again?
 
2013-09-20 08:36:10 AM

Jackson Herring: concern looms, pendulous, expectant


The Concern of Damocles
 
2013-09-20 08:40:42 AM

LasersHurt: Jackson Herring: concern looms, pendulous, expectant

The Concern of Damocles


50 Shades of Concern
 
2013-09-20 08:45:25 AM

Jackson Herring: LasersHurt: Jackson Herring: concern looms, pendulous, expectant

The Concern of Damocles

50 Shades of Concern


Obama, when the Concern Fell
 
2013-09-20 08:49:32 AM
I personally believe the reason that President Obama hasn't become a superstar in the way that Clinton did is precisely because of the personality traits that attracted people to him in the first place.  He is calm, cool, analytical, and tactical.  "No Drama Obama"...just as he promised.  He operates strategically, rather than with the force and bluster of the GOP, and without the flair, pomp and circumstance of Clinton.  So he often comes off as 'aloof' and 'cold'.

However, if you watch his 'bets' rather than trying to 'read his cards'...He is a highly superior tactician that the GOP currently underestimates in a big way.  Analyze what he does, and remove the context of HOW he says what he says and you'll see what I mean.  Where as Clinton thrived in the spotlight, in shaping and controlling the dynamics of public opinion, (Clinton would often go off-speech, depending on the mood of the crowd) Obama appears to thrive in the tactics, the strategy, the details, statistics and the analytics.  You could see it in a big way during the election.  It was mathematical, tested, methodical, and effective.
 
2013-09-20 08:51:20 AM
It's 3:00 AM and your children are safe and asleep.  But there's a phone in the Whitehouse and it's ringing.  Do you really want your used car salesman president "checking with his manager" before answering?
 
2013-09-20 09:01:06 AM
"Trust us! Change your ways!"
Concerned, yet quite insincere;
It's Politico.
 
2013-09-20 09:02:41 AM

dragonfire77: I personally believe the reason that President Obama hasn't become a superstar in the way that Clinton did is precisely because of the personality traits that attracted people to him in the first place.  He is calm, cool, analytical, and tactical.  white.


Niger, please.  The only reason why Clinton had more GOP cooperation than Obama was because he was white.  As soon as Obama got elected, the GOP just completely lost their shiat, as if we elected a french poodle by accident.  The racism is so deep in certain parts of the GOP that they honestly believe that the president is an inferior human being compared to the rest of the white population, and listening to his ideas is beneath them.  They blame the Democrats for having the gall to promote this black president, but at least they will occasionally talk to them because they are white.
 
2013-09-20 09:04:24 AM

blue_2501: The racism is so deep in certain parts of the GOP that they honestly believe that the president is an inferior human being compared to the rest of the white population,


Hence the 'senate would run better if filled with 100 Jesse Helms' comment.
 
2013-09-20 09:06:14 AM
Breaking news: Obama has poor leadership skills.


/this is my shocked face
 
2013-09-20 09:07:29 AM

dragonfire77: I personally believe the reason that President Obama hasn't become a superstar in the way that Clinton did is precisely because of the personality traits that attracted people to him in the first place.  He is calm, cool, analytical, and tactical.  "No Drama Obama"...just as he promised.  He operates strategically, rather than with the force and bluster of the GOP, and without the flair, pomp and circumstance of Clinton.  So he often comes off as 'aloof' and 'cold'.

However, if you watch his 'bets' rather than trying to 'read his cards'...He is a highly superior tactician that the GOP currently underestimates in a big way.  Analyze what he does, and remove the context of HOW he says what he says and you'll see what I mean.  Where as Clinton thrived in the spotlight, in shaping and controlling the dynamics of public opinion, (Clinton would often go off-speech, depending on the mood of the crowd) Obama appears to thrive in the tactics, the strategy, the details, statistics and the analytics.  You could see it in a big way during the election.  It was mathematical, tested, methodical, and effective.


One thing I've noticed is that he sees how far to the right we've gone since Reagan, and uses Reagan policy as a pivot point to steer policy back to the left. I know he is far more progressive than his policy decisions put on, but it's a pretty brilliant move to actually try to produce change by appealing to the old gods of the other party.

This also applies to other old Republican policies which are liberal by today's standards:

Gingrich's original healthcare plan, nuclear disarmament, the DREAM Act, wanting to bring tax rates back to Reagan levels.

That's what makes it so hilarious that he gets painted as the most libereralist liberal...He's essentially taking old Republican policies that are now liberal in comparison and using them as negotiation tactics, all the while taking a measured Clinton-esque stance on military tactics.

And now it's 2013 and republican Senators and Representatives are at each others' throats, Democrats are in control of foreign policy, and he has had a surprising number of his own initiatives pass into law.
 
2013-09-20 09:19:53 AM
Just to call Politico out on minor bullshiat:

"kept people with him despite Great Depression-level unemployment"

Unemployment hit a peak of 25% in 1933 and didn't get under 10% until 1941.  This isn't the post-Depression peak either; unemployment was 10.8% in November 1982, during the Reagan Administration.
 
2013-09-20 09:54:49 AM
I still reject the analogy of W and any kind of truck.

He's the favored son of New England oil millionaires. Robin Williams described it best - he's more like a Volvo with a gun rack.
 
2013-09-20 09:57:31 AM
Polls out this week showed that among people who say they understand the law well, Obamacare's over twice as popular as among people who say they're still confused.

Shocking.
 
2013-09-20 10:01:53 AM

Arkanaut: Just to call Politico out on minor bullshiat:

"kept people with him despite Great Depression-level unemployment"

Unemployment hit a peak of 25% in 1933 and didn't get under 10% until 1941.  This isn't the post-Depression peak either; unemployment was 10.8% in November 1982, during the Reagan Administration.


You lie!  Reagan (PBUH) lowered unemployment to 0.8% on his very first day in office through the power of REAGANOMICS!
 
2013-09-20 10:02:07 AM

dragonfire77: I personally believe the reason that...


i1-news.softpedia-static.com

/just couldn't read anymore after that
 
2013-09-20 10:59:25 AM
He was supposed to have been selling us something other than himself? Huh.
 
2013-09-20 11:11:18 AM
Yeah, a leader who can't lead? WHO-DA thunk it?
 
2013-09-20 11:19:10 AM

clkeagle: I still reject the analogy of W and any kind of truck.

He's the favored son of New England oil millionaires. Robin Williams described it best - he's more like a Volvo with a gun rack.


Ha! I had forgotten that joke. Thanks for the reminder.
 
2013-09-20 02:17:44 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: He was supposed to have been selling us something other than himself? Huh.


I think it's interesting that folks gloss over the stuff that actually has happened during this presidency...equality for gays in the military, passing the healthcare act(even if tantrums are still being thrown on a weekly basis), getting out of Iraq, winding down Afghanistan, giving a helping hand to oust Qaddafi, even managing the TARP handmedown.

Last I checked, I wasn't cracking my neighbor's skull and feasting on the goo inside---and I recall the howling shreiks of right wingers assuring me that societal collapse was immanent from day one of his administration.
 
2013-09-20 02:47:50 PM
Oh, and hey .. HEY!

i14.photobucket.com

Let's be CONCERNED out there!
 
2013-09-20 06:01:54 PM

Bonzo_1116: Last I checked, I wasn't cracking my neighbor's skull and feasting on the goo inside


So I shouldn't have been doing that, then?  OK, lesson learned.
 
2013-09-20 07:00:17 PM
Meh, indeed. I'd rather have a statesman in the White House than a salesman. Otherwise, I would have voted for Joe Isuzu.
 
m00
2013-09-21 12:13:56 AM

blue_2501: Niger, please. The only reason why Clinton had more GOP cooperation than Obama was because he was white. As soon as Obama got elected, the GOP just completely lost their shiat, as if we elected a french poodle by accident. The racism is so deep in certain parts of the GOP that they honestly believe that the president is an inferior human being compared to the rest of the white population, and listening to his ideas is beneath them. They blame the Democrats for having the gall to promote this black president, but at least they will occasionally talk to them because they are white.


The real offenders -- the really vile racists -- aren't even aware of it. They point to crime statistics and there's a lot of confirmation bias. Every single freakin' time a black guy is in the news shooting people there is some Obama-link. Race only matters if you're black, because white is the "normal" race. It's such an ingrained mindset.

But that's not why the GOP collectively lost their shiat. The GOP lost their shiat because the Republican Party is an extremely broad coalition -- you have Christians who believe in big government services like social security and medicare and want to make abortions illegal, to libertarians who want to cut government services and are pro-life. You have the extremely wealthy who vote Republican because they get told that their inherited opportunities were earned, and Republican rhetoric makes it okay to look down on the poors.  And you have lower-middle class racists that like to look down on blacks, BUT they've convinced themselves what they are really doing is looking down on the poors. They have convinced themselves that 1) it's okay to look down on poor people and 2) it's not their fault all poor people are black. See, they aren't racist!

That last group is frothing at the mouth and basically can't understand how it's even legal for a black person to be president (subconsciously, they can't reconcile this). Even if they are only 5% of the party, margins in elections are so narrow that 5% is the difference between victory or defeat.

So the GOP is now in the position of pandering to groups of people with opposite positions. Being racist alienates libertarians, not-being racist alienates the lower-middle class racists (who are mostly in self-denial). The 1%ers are mildly pro-racism, but only because pro-racism is anti-poor.  As for the Christians... as long as it's sufficiently patronizing racism, as opposed to out-in-the-open racism. Like "we're okay with black people, as long as they don't make a fuss."

So out of all the groups that comprise the GOP coalition only one really has a problem with it, but libertarians are also about 5-10% of Republicans.  So basically, the GOP is having this massive identity crisis because it can't pandering to everyone... this is how you get Romney saying one thing in a private $2,000 a plate dinner but saying another thing elsewhere.
 
m00
2013-09-21 12:15:38 AM

m00: life


meant to say choice here.
 
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