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(Washington Times)   Old and busted: Buzzing the Tower. New hotness: Buzzing the Iranian Air Force   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 75
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2013-09-19 08:21:07 PM  
Danger zone?
 
2013-09-19 08:47:26 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Danger zone?


sounds like we need a highway
 
2013-09-19 08:48:34 PM  
Good
 
2013-09-19 08:49:06 PM  
Goose and Maverick Approve
 
2013-09-19 08:49:39 PM  
They then returned to base for a shirtless volleyball montage.
 
2013-09-19 08:51:15 PM  
Everybody was moist with beads of sweat. MOIST.
 
2013-09-19 08:51:35 PM  
that in March a U.S. MQ-1 drone came close to being intercepted by an Iranian F-4 Phantom combat plane, but the Iranian aircraft stopped short after a warning by an American pilot.
"He [the Raptor pilot] flew under their aircraft [the F-4s] to check out their weapons load without them knowing that he was there, and then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and said 'you really ought to go home,'"


Those F-4s?  They got them when the US sold it to the SHAH...I'm not sure it would be much of a fight.
 
2013-09-19 08:52:18 PM  
Would love to see gun camera footage of that.
 
2013-09-19 08:52:19 PM  
'you really ought to go home'

*snerk*
 
2013-09-19 08:53:38 PM  
Ok, I have to admit, that story gave me a bit of a chubby...
 
2013-09-19 08:54:49 PM  

BravadoGT: that in March a U.S. MQ-1 drone came close to being intercepted by an Iranian F-4 Phantom combat plane, but the Iranian aircraft stopped short after a warning by an American pilot.
"He [the Raptor pilot] flew under their aircraft [the F-4s] to check out their weapons load without them knowing that he was there, and then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and said 'you really ought to go home,'"

Those F-4s?  They got them when the US sold it to the SHAH...I'm not sure it would be much of a fight.


Considering they didn't even know the guy was in the area, let alone UNDERNEATH his plane. I'm assuming getting missile lock would be a feat for the gods.
 
2013-09-19 08:57:51 PM  
Maj. Dwight Smiley: We were about to contact the aggressor and verify his intentions. Attention unidentified aircraft, this is Major Dwight Smiley of the United States Air Force, you are following one of our F-16s in international airspace, do you wish to engage?
[both MiGs break off]
Maj. Dwight Smiley: I didn't think so.
 
2013-09-19 08:58:45 PM  
So now the role of manned aircraft is to protect unmanned aircraft.
 
2013-09-19 08:59:05 PM  

Hack Patooey: 'you really ought to go home'

*snerk*


GO HOME Iran. You're drunk!
 
2013-09-19 08:59:19 PM  

SuperDarly: BravadoGT: that in March a U.S. MQ-1 drone came close to being intercepted by an Iranian F-4 Phantom combat plane, but the Iranian aircraft stopped short after a warning by an American pilot.
"He [the Raptor pilot] flew under their aircraft [the F-4s] to check out their weapons load without them knowing that he was there, and then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and said 'you really ought to go home,'"

Those F-4s?  They got them when the US sold it to the SHAH...I'm not sure it would be much of a fight.

Considering they didn't even know the guy was in the area, let alone UNDERNEATH his plane. I'm assuming getting missile lock would be a feat for the gods.


To be fair, he could have been a few hundred feet below him and still been able to check his weapons loadout. He wasn't necessarily close enough to reach out and touch him.
/still pretty funny though
 
2013-09-19 08:59:43 PM  
oi42.tinypic.com
 
2013-09-19 09:00:17 PM  
Somebody call Kenny Loggins, cause they're in the Danger Zone!

/got nothing
 
2013-09-19 09:00:39 PM  

lifeboat: [oi42.tinypic.com image 850x531]


Nice
 
2013-09-19 09:06:52 PM  
"Allah. Allah! ALLAH!!!"

"WHAT?!?"


"Danger zone..."


/did I tell you guys I got a goat?
 
2013-09-19 09:07:38 PM  
TFA:
In what only can be described as a scene out of Tom Cruise's "Top Gun," Gen. Mark A. Welsh III, Air Force chief of staff, describes how F-22 stealth jets scared off Iranian jets from a U.S. drone flying in international airspace.

The Aviationist reports that in March a U.S. MQ-1 drone came close to being intercepted by an Iranian F-4 Phantom combat plane, but the Iranian aircraft stopped short after a warning by an American pilot.

"He [the Raptor pilot] flew under their aircraft [the F-4s] to check out their weapons load without them knowing that he was there, and then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and said 'you really ought to go home,'" Gen. Welsh said.

According to The Aviationist, the Iranians came within 16 miles of the drone.


Article is inscrutable. It says F-22s scared off the F-4, but then goes on to describe how the Raptor pilot scared them off. And how do you sneak up under an aircraft and NOT come within 16 miles of it? WTF? I know the Washington Times is batshiat crazy, but you would think they could write, being a newspaper and all.
 
2013-09-19 09:08:14 PM  

Slick Johnson: Goose and Maverick Approve


"Smile at the birdy"
 
2013-09-19 09:09:16 PM  

Apik0r0s: Article is inscrutable. It says F-22s scared off the F-4, but then goes on to describe how the Raptor pilot scared them off. And how do you sneak up under an aircraft and NOT come within 16 miles of it? WTF? I know the Washington Times is batshiat crazy, but you would think they could write, being a newspaper and all.


Three aircraft. US Drone. Iranian F-4. US F-22.
 
2013-09-19 09:12:48 PM  
This isn't a good idea. First, Iran has just as much right to be in International airspace as the US. Second, Iran knowing all they have to do is follow a drone and the US will send up it only stealth fighter (F-22) means thay can larn if the F-22 has RADAR cross section they can see. Thrid, If Iran can't see the F-22 with there old RADARs China or Russia will be willing to "lend" Iran new RADARs in exchange for learing how they can see the F-22.

So if I were Iran I would keep follow drones and let F-22 "come at me bro". Every time a F-22 is confirmed to be in sight of a Iranian F-4 is change to lean the F-22s RADAR cross section and is worth quite a lot to many to know how to spot the F-22 and for 1 hour of flight time the F-22 has it must spend 30 hours in a hangar geting maintenance.
 
2013-09-19 09:12:57 PM  
img1.fark.net? No thanks.
 
2013-09-19 09:18:50 PM  
/For the second time this week, came for fat Val Kilmer, left disappointed.
 
2013-09-19 09:33:54 PM  

lifeboat: [oi42.tinypic.com image 850x531]


So we are very scared of the 1960s?
 
2013-09-19 09:38:03 PM  
That shouldn't be too hard.  The Iranian Air Force only exists on Photoshop and even then, it's still poorly done.
 
2013-09-19 09:40:03 PM  

Allen262: This isn't a good idea. First, Iran has just as much right to be in International airspace as the US. Second, Iran knowing all they have to do is follow a drone and the US will send up it only stealth fighter (F-22) means thay can larn if the F-22 has RADAR cross section they can see. Thrid, If Iran can't see the F-22 with there old RADARs China or Russia will be willing to "lend" Iran new RADARs in exchange for learing how they can see the F-22.

So if I were Iran I would keep follow drones and let F-22 "come at me bro". Every time a F-22 is confirmed to be in sight of a Iranian F-4 is change to lean the F-22s RADAR cross section and is worth quite a lot to many to know how to spot the F-22 and for 1 hour of flight time the F-22 has it must spend 30 hours in a hangar geting maintenance.


Wow, wou have the spelling and grammar capabilities of a 2nd grader.
 
2013-09-19 09:43:24 PM  
Communicating, keeping up foreign relations, etc.
 
2013-09-19 09:46:27 PM  

jaytkay: So now the role of manned aircraft is to protect unmanned aircraft.


Some roles are well suited to unmanned aircraft right now- things like recon and some kinds of air to ground strikes are great. Program it in, send them off.

Others aren't- air to air (and likely close air support) will be among the last to get handed over to unmanned aircraft. A real pilot in the cockpit can keep track of things that you just can't program a drone to do right now.
 
2013-09-19 09:52:25 PM  

grimlock1972: Slick Johnson: Goose and Maverick Approve
"Smile at the birdy"

Classic movie scene...
Watch the birdie...
 
2013-09-19 09:53:23 PM  
...then the oxygen malfunctioned and the F-22 had to go home.
 
2013-09-19 09:55:02 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: ...then the oxygen malfunctioned and the F-22 had to go home.


I've heard they fixed that. Don't remember what they finally decided it was.

Found an article. Looks like it was a valve in the pilot's vest and they added a backup system too.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130404/DEFREG02/304040017/Fligh t- Restrictions-Lifted-F-22s-Auto-Oxygen-System
 
2013-09-19 09:57:29 PM  
I bet you wouldn't have been able to get a sewing needle between that Iranian pilots butt cheeks with a sledge hammer when that F-22 rose up next to him.
 
2013-09-19 09:57:38 PM  

there their theyre: Allen262: This isn't a good idea. First, Iran has just as much right to be in International airspace as the US. Second, Iran knowing all they have to do is follow a drone and the US will send up it only stealth fighter (F-22) means thay can larn if the F-22 has RADAR cross section they can see. Thrid, If Iran can't see the F-22 with there old RADARs China or Russia will be willing to "lend" Iran new RADARs in exchange for learing how they can see the F-22.

So if I were Iran I would keep follow drones and let F-22 "come at me bro". Every time a F-22 is confirmed to be in sight of a Iranian F-4 is change to lean the F-22s RADAR cross section and is worth quite a lot to many to know how to spot the F-22 and for 1 hour of flight time the F-22 has it must spend 30 hours in a hangar geting maintenance.

Wow, wou have the spelling and grammar capabilities of a 2nd grader.


i290.photobucket.com

upload.wikimedia.org

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: ...then the oxygen malfunctioned and the F-22 had to go home.


Was going to crack that joke too.
 
2013-09-19 10:03:20 PM  
Sort of a shame it wasn't an Iranian F-14.
 
2013-09-19 10:07:16 PM  

SuperDarly: BravadoGT: that in March a U.S. MQ-1 drone came close to being intercepted by an Iranian F-4 Phantom combat plane, but the Iranian aircraft stopped short after a warning by an American pilot.
"He [the Raptor pilot] flew under their aircraft [the F-4s] to check out their weapons load without them knowing that he was there, and then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and said 'you really ought to go home,'"

Those F-4s?  They got them when the US sold it to the SHAH...I'm not sure it would be much of a fight.

Considering they didn't even know the guy was in the area, let alone UNDERNEATH his plane. I'm assuming getting missile lock would be a feat for the gods.


Getting a missile lock with 1970s-era Sparrows was a feat for the gods on a good day. Of course, stealth doesn't actually make you "invisible", it just greatly reduces the range where you could be detected, IIRC in the case of the F-22 it's between a 10X and 20X reduction in detection range, mostly in the bands used by anti-aircraft missiles. Heat-seekers could see you just fine if you were within visual range. But the problem there is I don't think Iran has any missiles that would be able to get past modern countermeasures. The F-22 pilot would simply drop chaff/flares and circle around behind them before they even realized they'd missed. Although the new generation of Sidewinders can supposedly hit a target that's behind the launching aircraft, so he could conceivably kill them without even turning around, for the ultimate "fark you".
 
2013-09-19 10:08:21 PM  
"Send em up, I'll wait"
 
2013-09-19 10:09:43 PM  
Fo Shiz

Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full.
 
2013-09-19 10:12:49 PM  
Sending a manned fighter aircraft to protect a dime-a-dozen drone?  Isn't that a horrific waste of resources?

Let the Iranians shoot it down if they want to; let them be the ones to blame for creating an incident.  The whole point of drones is that they're expendable.
 
2013-09-19 10:15:52 PM  
OK, granted, the Iranian Air Force is flying outdated equipment, but the fact the F-22 basically came in farked the Iranian's wife, fed the dog and ate this pilot's steak dinner all while Mr. Persian Ace was basically watching TV downstairs, I would have to say this is pretty darned impressive.
 
2013-09-19 10:17:30 PM  

cs30109: Sending a manned fighter aircraft to protect a dime-a-dozen drone?  Isn't that a horrific waste of resources?

Let the Iranians shoot it down if they want to; let them be the ones to blame for creating an incident.  The whole point of drones is that they're expendable.


I think the point was more to scare the piss out of the Iranians and discourage them from getting close in the future.
 
2013-09-19 10:17:46 PM  
It's not the Raptor you see that will kill you.  It's the one about a mile in trail that you have to worry about.
 
2013-09-19 10:23:10 PM  
So apparently we sold the Iranians about 225 F4's.  Wiki lists only 28.  I wonder how many are still airworthy.  The last one was built in 1979 and these were sold in the 60's and 70's.  Probably at least 40 years old.

Bet they can get a bunch of them in the air.

They also list 140 of these, that would be entertaining

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-09-19 10:23:11 PM  

Apik0r0s: Article is inscrutable. It says F-22s scared off the F-4, but then goes on to describe how the Raptor pilot scared them off. And how do you sneak up under an aircraft and NOT come within 16 miles of it? WTF? I know the Washington Times is batshiat crazy, but you would think they could write, being a newspaper and all.


16 miles of the drone, dummy.
 
2013-09-19 10:38:54 PM  

there their theyre: Allen262: This isn't a good idea. First, Iran has just as much right to be in International airspace as the US. Second, Iran knowing all they have to do is follow a drone and the US will send up it only stealth fighter (F-22) means thay can larn if the F-22 has RADAR cross section they can see. Thrid, If Iran can't see the F-22 with there old RADARs China or Russia will be willing to "lend" Iran new RADARs in exchange for learing how they can see the F-22.

So if I were Iran I would keep follow drones and let F-22 "come at me bro". Every time a F-22 is confirmed to be in sight of a Iranian F-4 is change to lean the F-22s RADAR cross section and is worth quite a lot to many to know how to spot the F-22 and for 1 hour of flight time the F-22 has it must spend 30 hours in a hangar geting maintenance.

Wow, wou have the spelling and grammar capabilities of a 2nd grader.


Not everybody speaks English as their first language.
 
2013-09-19 10:45:05 PM  

Allen262: This isn't a good idea. First, Iran has just as much right to be in International airspace as the US. Second, Iran knowing all they have to do is follow a drone and the US will send up it only stealth fighter (F-22) means thay can larn if the F-22 has RADAR cross section they can see. Thrid, If Iran can't see the F-22 with there old RADARs China or Russia will be willing to "lend" Iran new RADARs in exchange for learing how they can see the F-22.

So if I were Iran I would keep follow drones and let F-22 "come at me bro". Every time a F-22 is confirmed to be in sight of a Iranian F-4 is change to lean the F-22s RADAR cross section and is worth quite a lot to many to know how to spot the F-22 and for 1 hour of flight time the F-22 has it must spend 30 hours in a hangar geting maintenance.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think that the F-22s would be able to "see" the F-4s long before the F-4s could see the F-22s. I would think they could just hang way back and keep an eye on the Iranians without them even knowing. Probably because that's exactly what they did in this instance.
 
2013-09-19 10:54:44 PM  
U.S. Pilot: Peekaboo!
Iranian Pilot: Holy shiate! (craps flightsuit)
 
2013-09-19 11:23:30 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Not everybody speaks English as their first language.


If you don't we're probably going to bomb you. Better get Rosetta Stone, quick!
 
2013-09-19 11:30:48 PM  

Allen262: This isn't a good idea. First, Iran has just as much right to be in International airspace as the US. Second, Iran knowing all they have to do is follow a drone and the US will send up it only stealth fighter (F-22) means thay can larn if the F-22 has RADAR cross section they can see. Thrid, If Iran can't see the F-22 with there old RADARs China or Russia will be willing to "lend" Iran new RADARs in exchange for learing how they can see the F-22.

So if I were Iran I would keep follow drones and let F-22 "come at me bro". Every time a F-22 is confirmed to be in sight of a Iranian F-4 is change to lean the F-22s RADAR cross section and is worth quite a lot to many to know how to spot the F-22 and for 1 hour of flight time the F-22 has it must spend 30 hours in a hangar geting maintenance.


Do you not know how to spell "learn"?
 
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