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2013-09-19 04:51:36 PM

Soulcatcher: Obviously meat and dairy have a short lifespan. A box of Cap'n Crunch? Not so much. It just starts getting a stale taste eventually. It doesn't send you to the ER in diarrhea/vomit purgatory.


Depending on the meat, but when frozen it can usually last several months if not a year or more.


dustygrimp: Lots of people seem to not fark around with milk.  That's funny to me since it's the item that is most accomodating about telling you when it's bad by its smell.


Tip: don't just open a bottle of milk and smell it. Pour some into a cup and smell that. The milk film around the lid can be soured but the actual milk can still be good.
 
2013-09-19 04:56:26 PM

Burning_Monk: Soulcatcher: Obviously meat and dairy have a short lifespan. A box of Cap'n Crunch? Not so much. It just starts getting a stale taste eventually. It doesn't send you to the ER in diarrhea/vomit purgatory.

Depending on the meat, but when frozen it can usually last several months if not a year or more.


dustygrimp: Lots of people seem to not fark around with milk.  That's funny to me since it's the item that is most accomodating about telling you when it's bad by its smell.

Tip: don't just open a bottle of milk and smell it. Pour some into a cup and smell that. The milk film around the lid can be soured but the actual milk can still be good.


Same with bread. Cut off the moldy bits and it's fine. Last year I saved almost $8 doing this.
 
2013-09-19 04:58:44 PM

Burning_Monk: Soulcatcher: Obviously meat and dairy have a short lifespan. A box of Cap'n Crunch? Not so much. It just starts getting a stale taste eventually. It doesn't send you to the ER in diarrhea/vomit purgatory.

Depending on the meat, but when frozen it can usually last several months if not a year or more.


dustygrimp: Lots of people seem to not fark around with milk.  That's funny to me since it's the item that is most accomodating about telling you when it's bad by its smell.

Tip: don't just open a bottle of milk and smell it. Pour some into a cup and smell that. The milk film around the lid can be soured but the actual milk can still be good.


Frozen meat doesn't really go bad either, just loses taste.  I cooked a turkey that had been in the freezer too long (about a year and a half I think) and it was edible, just not very good at all.  I took all the meat off the carcass and made turkey chili and turkey casserole with it and those were awesome.
 
2013-09-19 05:09:10 PM

Russ1642: Same with bread. Cut off the moldy bits and it's fine. Last year I saved almost $8 doing this.


Hey!  That's a six pack of shiatty beer!
 
2013-09-19 05:13:54 PM

Soulcatcher: MythDragon: I'll chance it with everything but milk. If milk says expires 20 Sep, 11:59 on Sep 19th I am pouring that bastard down the sink. (if I'm up. Otherwise it can wait until morning). I drank chunky milk once. Never again.

This is why civilized Farkers pour their milk into a glass before they drink it. The chunk test.


A glass? You mean those things I use to hold liquor and ice? Then it will get dirty. Why make extra work for myself when milk, coke and juice are already nice and cold in their own beverage container?
 
2013-09-19 05:21:27 PM

litespeed74: I'm usually brave on expiration dates...except for milk. No way in hell I'm trying it after the expiration date.

I had a bad sour milk episode when I was young. No, not that young.


Someone who understands.
Asian Chili sauce that expired two years ago? Still fine
4 year old peeps? Candy doesn't go bad.
Chocolate from 1989? probably still good.
Milk expires today? Down the sink with you, farker.
 
2013-09-19 05:23:23 PM

Soulcatcher: MythDragon: I'll chance it with everything but milk. If milk says expires 20 Sep, 11:59 on Sep 19th I am pouring that bastard down the sink. (if I'm up. Otherwise it can wait until morning). I drank chunky milk once. Never again.

This is why civilized Farkers pour their milk into a glass before they drink it. The chunk test.

=]


Straight up from the teat.
 
2013-09-19 05:26:18 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: [www.turkeycreekshopping.com image 350x263]

And other businesses like it, including the vending businesses, waste more food in one day than an average person will all year.

They're the real culprit.

/bonus, most of them will fire you if you try to take home anything they told you to throw out


They're scared of the lawsuits, which makes me ask why they can't just have people sign a waiver. I worked at a club for a while and every Sunday I got to take home some of the fried chicken they had on special that never sold.
 
2013-09-19 05:38:28 PM

Russ1642: weirdneighbour:  A place I used to work at years ago had sandwich vending machine, the guy would come every week or two to replenish the machine, tossing the "past" sandwiches in the garbage. Of course we would fish them out and eat them, they were still good. One guy even left them on a table so's not to make us go through the garbage. Then there was this company a** hole guy who would put his thumb through every "past" sandwich before tossing it in the garbage, real hero, it just pissed us off, wonder what his fark handle is?

/prob worst sentence structure on fark(earth)
//any fark phonics major can have at it

Do you also eat partially eaten eclairs if they're sitting right on top of the other garbage?


If I think no one is looking.
 
2013-09-19 05:45:41 PM
Y'all think you're being clever with your "The dates mean nothing!" nonsense.

I don't go by dates, and I probably throw out more food than anyone else. If anything even trips my "might be going bad" sensor, it gets trashed. I have thrown out brand new loaves of bread because the flour spots look too much like mold spots.

/I am way more paranoid than Best Before dates.
 
2013-09-19 06:22:29 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: The statistics of food waste are staggering. It's estimated that a family of four throws away $2,275 each year in food.

I'm sure I was throwing that amount of food away per month at one time. Jesus, I'm a horrible grocery shopper. Finally got tired of seeing good money go down the drain (literally), so now I shop in much smaller increments. Maybe two or max three days worth of meals. I get the smaller sized milk because my son barely touches it, so I'm not tossing a half gallon of milk away every couple of weeks anymore. Instead of cooking a giant pot of spaghetti, I cook smaller portions knowing now that I am NOT going to eat spaghetti everyday for the rest of the week, no matter how much I convince myself that I will. Instead of gettinga satchel of bananas, like I'm expecting Grape Ape for dinner, I just get a few ripe ones so that only one or two are left at the end of the week. Etc.


For me, I order my groceries through peapod.   I must save $100/week at a minimum just by avoiding impulse buys.  It also forces me to think ahead with my meal planning.
 
2013-09-19 06:36:57 PM

kim jong-un: For me, I order my groceries through peapod.   I must save $100/week at a minimum just by avoiding impulse buys.  It also forces me to think ahead with my meal planning.


That sounds quite lame.
 
2013-09-19 06:55:22 PM

kim jong-un: For me, I order my groceries through peapod.   I must save $100/week at a minimum just by avoiding impulse buys.  It also forces me to think ahead with my meal planning.


You can impulse buy shopping online as easily as you can in a store. Also, how the fark do you spend $100 a week on impulse buys at a grocery store? I don't spend that much on groceries per week to begin with. My idea of an impulse buy is picking up a tub of ice cream or some Oreo cookies.

This reminds me of those people who say never go grocery shopping hungry because you buy more than you need. If I go to the grocery store and I'm NOT hungry, I come home and a day later I realize I didn't buy a damn thing to eat. I need to be hungry to shop, otherwise nothing sounds good at the time.
 
2013-09-19 06:58:48 PM

ReapTheChaos: kim jong-un: For me, I order my groceries through peapod.   I must save $100/week at a minimum just by avoiding impulse buys.  It also forces me to think ahead with my meal planning.

You can impulse buy shopping online as easily as you can in a store. Also, how the fark do you spend $100 a week on impulse buys at a grocery store?


You have obviously never bought decent meat in a Finnish store.
 
2013-09-19 07:02:16 PM

Thudfark: ReapTheChaos: kim jong-un: For me, I order my groceries through peapod.   I must save $100/week at a minimum just by avoiding impulse buys.  It also forces me to think ahead with my meal planning.

You can impulse buy shopping online as easily as you can in a store. Also, how the fark do you spend $100 a week on impulse buys at a grocery store?

You have obviously never bought decent meat in a Finnish store.


I don't consider meat an impulse buy, I call that groceries.
 
2013-09-19 07:03:29 PM
I've used milk up to a week past the date but of course I do the sniff test. I've had milk go bad before the date too so you never know. My inlaws are nuts with canned goods. They have shiat in their pantry that expired ten years ago and will eat it. I won't go that far. You can't smell botulism.
 
2013-09-19 07:09:43 PM
I just love it when the milk is spoiled three days before the "use by" date , even though I keep my fridge at chilly beer temp . Yum !
 
2013-09-19 07:13:13 PM

ReapTheChaos: Thudfark: ReapTheChaos: kim jong-un: For me, I order my groceries through peapod.   I must save $100/week at a minimum just by avoiding impulse buys.  It also forces me to think ahead with my meal planning.

You can impulse buy shopping online as easily as you can in a store. Also, how the fark do you spend $100 a week on impulse buys at a grocery store?

You have obviously never bought decent meat in a Finnish store.

I don't consider meat an impulse buy, I call that groceries.


I did say decent meat. Rump roast is well over 12 euros a kilo. Prime cuts go for 20-30 per kilo.
 
2013-09-19 07:13:35 PM

groppet: My roomate drives me nuts. When we shop she buys way too much food. I usually get what I can eat in about a few weeks. She will buy a ton of fresh fruits & veggies and cant eat it fast enough and that stuff turns into sludge in the crisper. The worst was when she "had" to go to the store and she bought jsut a crapton of fresh stuff, then she took off to her BF for three weeks and let the stuff spoil. I took pictures of it before I tossed it so she wouldnt have a fit like she had in the past.


She must be a slow learner.  If fresh produce matters at all to you, don't buy a weeks worth at a time.  Instead buy two days worth at the most.  I have gotten in the habit of buying meals almost daily, sometimes up to three days out at the most.  Rarely do we worry about produce going bad, and we even will buy marked down salad mixes that is on its last day.  Some cultures already do this, yet Americans can act like such spoiled brats when it comes to doing what they want without any planning.  Spontaneity has a price, you don't plan, you plan to fail.  Once, I overheard someone saying they needed milk with a certain date, so as to still have good milk in the fridge when they returned from a trip.  Here's an idea, plan on hitting the store when you get back.  Of course, if she didn't mind leaving the food behind like that, it would makes sense to just offer you the food.

We sometimes struggle with using up leftovers, but it helps not to buy lunch items so it forces the kids to use up the leftovers.  The kids baffle me with how they will tell us how good dinner was, and then ignore the leftovers for days if we didn't say anything.  They get the, "You loved it the first time, what's the matter with it now" speech.
 
2013-09-19 07:37:42 PM
RY28: I just love it when the milk is spoiled three days before the "use by" date , even though I keep my fridge at chilly beer temp . Yum !

I switched to almond milk, because I only used whole white milk for cereal, which I eat sporadically.

// I would eat a bowl of cereal, and the rest of the milk would spoil before I got the hankering for cereal again.

// Bonus, the almond milk doesn't even require refrigeration until it's opened.

// I'm not even quite sure when opened almond milk actually spoils. The recommendation is just a few days (silk says 7-10 days), but I think that recommendation is pure bullshiat because I've had quarts sitting around for much longer with no noticeable drop in quality whatsoever. So I'm still scratching my head as to what almond milk looks/smells like when it goes bad.
 
2013-09-19 07:43:01 PM
lack of warmth: "You loved it the first time, what's the matter with it now" speech.

Some foods don't make it through the fridge that well.

// you should see some of the shiat I go through to properly re-heat some foods (ex, you can't just nuke a slice of pizza, it will come out all soggy, so I nuke it for a bit (to warm it up), then I throw that sucker in a cast iron pan to make the crust crispy again.)
 
2013-09-19 08:31:49 PM

lordargent: RY28: I just love it when the milk is spoiled three days before the "use by" date , even though I keep my fridge at chilly beer temp . Yum !

I switched to almond milk, because I only used whole white milk for cereal, which I eat sporadically.

// I would eat a bowl of cereal, and the rest of the milk would spoil before I got the hankering for cereal again.

// Bonus, the almond milk doesn't even require refrigeration until it's opened.

// I'm not even quite sure when opened almond milk actually spoils. The recommendation is just a few days (silk says 7-10 days), but I think that recommendation is pure bullshiat because I've had quarts sitting around for much longer with no noticeable drop in quality whatsoever. So I'm still scratching my head as to what almond milk looks/smells like when it goes bad.


I buy milk by the half gallon and break it down into 8oz plastic containers, which go in the freezer.

I rarely drink milk, but do cook with it. It's nice always having milk that you know isn't spoiled.
 
2013-09-19 08:42:43 PM
I find yogurt can last MONTHS beyond the best before date.
 
2013-09-19 09:17:01 PM

lordargent: lack of warmth: "You loved it the first time, what's the matter with it now" speech.

Some foods don't make it through the fridge that well.

// you should see some of the shiat I go through to properly re-heat some foods (ex, you can't just nuke a slice of pizza, it will come out all soggy, so I nuke it for a bit (to warm it up), then I throw that sucker in a cast iron pan to make the crust crispy again.)


Oh, I make sure they know all the rewarming tricks.  I grew up without a microwave, so nuking isn't the only method to reheat anything.  I've put pizza back in the oven, as many pizza places have reheating directions on the box describing temp and time.  I've shown them how they can even put spaghetti & sauce on the stove, and it looks like I cooked it fresh.  It just takes a little, small amount of water added, medium heat and constant stirring.  They're just lazy when it comes to lunch.  The only time they'll put something on the stove is if they all agreed to eat the same thing, which rarely happens.  My weakness is mac & cheese, as I really don't like rewarmed m&c.  However, my kids love nuked m&c.
 
2013-09-19 09:26:46 PM
When poison goes out of date, does it become less or more poisonous?
 
2013-09-19 09:33:41 PM

lordargent: RY28: I just love it when the milk is spoiled three days before the "use by" date , even though I keep my fridge at chilly beer temp . Yum !

I switched to almond milk, because I only used whole white milk for cereal, which I eat sporadically.

// I would eat a bowl of cereal, and the rest of the milk would spoil before I got the hankering for cereal again.

// Bonus, the almond milk doesn't even require refrigeration until it's opened.

// I'm not even quite sure when opened almond milk actually spoils. The recommendation is just a few days (silk says 7-10 days), but I think that recommendation is pure bullshiat because I've had quarts sitting around for much longer with no noticeable drop in quality whatsoever. So I'm still scratching my head as to what almond milk looks/smells like when it goes bad.


I  switched to organic milk which lasts for several weeks .
 
2013-09-19 09:45:36 PM

tuna fingers: I agree with these guys FTFA:
Screw those dates. Arbitrary. Empower yourself and use your senses. Does it look smell or taste gross? No, then eat it!'Use by' is a guideline. Scratch 'n sniff is more effective.  Even more so with pharmaceuticals (within reason).


I would agree except the worst case of food poisoning (and the last) I ever got was from some bacon that looked and smelled just fine but was several days past its "use by" date. Since then, sorry, if it's past the date, it gets pitched. Because I can't handle three days of my own pitching.
 
2013-09-19 09:48:39 PM
RY28:  I  switched to organic milk which lasts for several weeks .

I switched to vodka, which doesn't seem to last very long.
 
2013-09-19 10:26:45 PM
RY28: I switched to organic milk which lasts for several weeks .

All milk is organic, but not all milk is "organic".

// only accept the scientific and biological definitions.
 
2013-09-19 10:47:21 PM

tuna fingers: Oreos which could go 12 months after that date easy.


If you like them stale.

/which I guess the milk dippers do
//don't eat them
 
2013-09-19 10:57:57 PM
Late to thread but, When I was working at a store, the chip/cake (lays, martins, little debbie, lance) vendors would come in to restock. They would give us the out of date stuff and sometimes it  would be 15-20 bags or so. It was all within a day to a week out of date. I took that shiat home and gave it to hubby and family. Nothing wrong with it. They were going to throw it out, and we are poor, and so were my co-workers. We ate it, we're all still alive. Milk is another matter. I will freeze it if i think it'll go out soon.
 
2013-09-19 11:42:51 PM
I found a pork loin in my freezer that was from 2005 a couple of weeks ago.  It had a "freeze by" date on it and the label said it should be used within a year of freezing.

I cooked it in the oven and it was delicious and it didn't make me sick.

I have eggs in the refrigerator that "expired" 2 months ago.  They still are good too.

Milk, OTOH, is something you should throw out.  If it smells bad and tastes bad, don't take any chances.  And if your milk is chunky, expect it to make you very very sick.

The funniest expiration date I ever saw was on bottled water at least 15 years ago.  It had a manufacturing date on it too.  Both dates included a time as well.  So exactly one year after this water was bottled it apparently "expired".  I was tempted to hang on to it to see what happened at that precise moment in time, but didn't bother.

I also seem to recall reading a story about some explorers in Antarctica who came across some food provisions left there by previous explorers about 100 years earlier who didn't survive.  They ate some of the frozen meat and it was just fine.  I think they said it wasn't very tasty, but they probably just weren't very good chefs.
 
2013-09-20 12:10:08 AM
Have you guys eaten stale cheetos? That shiat is NECESSARY!
 
2013-09-20 01:07:13 AM

Soulcatcher: MythDragon: I'll chance it with everything but milk. If milk says expires 20 Sep, 11:59 on Sep 19th I am pouring that bastard down the sink. (if I'm up. Otherwise it can wait until morning). I drank chunky milk once. Never again.

This is why civilized Farkers pour their milk into a glass before they drink it. The chunk test.

=]


Ah yes, the cultured approach.
 
2013-09-20 07:19:09 AM

KellyX: Deathfrogg: "Use by" dates do have a purpose. On a tour with a friends band years ago, we stopped in a little town in northern California to stock up on road munchies and beer. Several people bought those nasty prepackaged sandwiches that all those places seem to have. When we opened them, they were this awful green color with mold and shiat, so folks checked the "sell by" date on them, and they were literally over a month past due. We took them back into the store and the dude refused to refund our money because the packages were opened. So things started getting nasty and loud. He called the cops. Cops showed up, and we showed them the packages.

Meanwhile, the storekeeper's wife or whoever was in the back of the coolers pulling all the other stuff off the shelves as fast as she could. Cop does a little investigation in the garbage and found out that nearly every food item in the store was at least a couple weeks past the sell-by date and told this greasy little prick to give us back our money. Meanwhile, he's screaming at the cops to arrest us for shoplifting and all sorts of other crap, trying to convince him that we just tried to rob him and such. Cop tells us to leave, and that he was closing the store on an emergency health basis because the store was where the cops had been getting their own road munchies for years.

There is a reason for those expiration dates. I make sure to check all of them now.


Did you get your money back?

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2013-09-20 08:14:17 PM
gfid: The funniest expiration date I ever saw was on bottled water at least 15 years ago. It had a manufacturing date on it too. Both dates included a time as well. So exactly one year after this water was bottled it apparently "expired".

That's the exact date that the plastics in the bottle start to break down and leech poison into the water :P
 
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