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2013-09-19 03:19:06 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: YixilTesiphon: DROxINxTHExWIND: The statistics of food waste are staggering. It's estimated that a family of four throws away $2,275 each year in food.

I'm sure I was throwing that amount of food away per month at one time. Jesus, I'm a horrible grocery shopper. Finally got tired of seeing good money go down the drain (literally), so now I shop in much smaller increments. Maybe two or max three days worth of meals. I get the smaller sized milk because my son barely touches it, so I'm not tossing a half gallon of milk away every couple of weeks anymore. Instead of cooking a giant pot of spaghetti, I cook smaller portions knowing now that I am NOT going to eat spaghetti everyday for the rest of the week, no matter how much I convince myself that I will. Instead of gettinga satchel of bananas, like I'm expecting Grape Ape for dinner, I just get a few ripe ones so that only one or two are left at the end of the week. Etc.

Jesus, my wife and I spend about $5000/year on food.

Mostly I use sell by dates on things like eggs to see how long they are likely to last. If the grocery store is selling eggs with sell by dates a few days away (fark you Randall's), I stay away.

On the other hand I sometimes buy 36 eggs at Costco with sell by dates far in the future. I ate three this morning that were "best by" yesterday. That doesn't worry me.


Just to clarify, I was exaggerating. If I was throwing away $2200/month in food, I have a good support system around me who would try to whip my ass. That kind of stupidity is frowned upon in my circle.


Everybody should have such a system in place. I have a few friends who need jumped for their financial ways.
 
2013-09-19 03:19:08 PM
I'm usually brave on expiration dates...except for milk. No way in hell I'm trying it after the expiration date.

I had a bad sour milk episode when I was young. No, not that young.
 
2013-09-19 03:19:55 PM

weirdneighbour: A place I used to work at years ago had sandwich vending machine, the guy would come every week or two to replenish the machine, tossing the "past" sandwiches in the garbage. Of course we would fish them out and eat them, they were still good. One guy even left them on a table so's not to make us go through the garbage. Then there was this company a** hole guy who would put his thumb through every "past" sandwich before tossing it in the garbage, real hero, it just pissed us off, wonder what his fark handle is?

/prob worst sentence structure on fark(earth)
//any fark phonics major can have at it


I work with this guy who smokes two packs a day and worries about getting sick from BPA in water bottles...
 
2013-09-19 03:19:57 PM
My roomate drives me nuts. When we shop she buys way too much food. I usually get what I can eat in about a few weeks. She will buy a ton of fresh fruits & veggies and cant eat it fast enough and that stuff turns into sludge in the crisper. The worst was when she "had" to go to the store and she bought jsut a crapton of fresh stuff, then she took off to her BF for three weeks and let the stuff spoil. I took pictures of it before I tossed it so she wouldnt have a fit like she had in the past.
 
2013-09-19 03:21:00 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: How about not buying more food than you're capable of eating before it spoils?  That would help.


I've been buying more non-perishable items lately, canned food, etc.

Fresh stuff I tend to buy very shortly before planning to use.
 
2013-09-19 03:23:08 PM

Loaf's Tray: weirdneighbour: A place I used to work at years ago had sandwich vending machine, the guy would come every week or two to replenish the machine, tossing the "past" sandwiches in the garbage. Of course we would fish them out and eat them, they were still good. One guy even left them on a table so's not to make us go through the garbage. Then there was this company a** hole guy who would put his thumb through every "past" sandwich before tossing it in the garbage, real hero, it just pissed us off, wonder what his fark handle is?

/prob worst sentence structure on fark(earth)
//any fark phonics major can have at it

I work with this guy who smokes two packs a day and worries about getting sick from BPA in water bottles...


I got lectured about my getting a flu vaccine by a guy who was a hundred pounds overweight and ate and drank like a trucker. He was genuinely surprised that I didn't die from it within a few days.
 
2013-09-19 03:24:31 PM

KellyX: LoneVVolf: If you see a tin can swelled up like a water balloon, nuke it form orbit. Just to be sure...

Unless it's surströmming, then you know it's ready


This.

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2013-09-19 03:26:40 PM
There will never be a system that works as they describe. Few if any item's have a drop dead "no good after" date. I've had milk spoil the day after I bought it, and I've had some smell and taste fine weeks after the date listed. "Use by" or "best by" are just well educated guesses as to when the product might begin to taste less than desirable when compared to a freshly purchased product. It's up to the individual consumer to decide if the product is acceptable for consumption based on these dates.

Bottom line, if I'm the least bit unsure, I'll throw it away. I'm not going to risk food poisoning over the last dollop of mayo in the jar.
 
2013-09-19 03:29:18 PM

litespeed74: I'm usually brave on expiration dates...except for milk. No way in hell I'm trying it after the expiration date.

I had a bad sour milk episode when I was young. No, not that young.


I remember once when I was about 15, I'd been outside doing yard work all day in the blazing summer sun; I came inside, grabbed the milk from the fridge, and chugged down about a third of the half-gallon carton like Belushi chugging the whiskey in Animal House.  It wasn't chunky or anything, but it wasn't until I paused for air that I actually TASTED what I was drinking - it was something like pizza grease and vinegar.  Checked the date and sure enough, it was about three weeks past; someone must've pulled it out of the back of the fridge without knowing how old it was (we had five kids in the house - always had LOTS of milk).  I never did get sick from it though, never even got the runs...mom said it would've served me right for drinking out of the carton like that anyway.
 
2013-09-19 03:30:06 PM
It's Meatcake!
 
2013-09-19 03:31:47 PM

Russ1642: DerAppie: Anything before the date is good 99.999% of the time (packaging errors/damaged packaging might still cause it to spoil). After the date? Don't be a pussy. Your ancestors imported spices to deal with the less-than-fresh taste of foods that were just over the peak. Learn from the past.

They also died of dysentery on the Oregon trail.


Ah, but I learned my history and I'm not going to travel the Oregon trail. Danger averted.
 
2013-09-19 03:31:57 PM

Loaf's Tray: litespeed74: I'm usually brave on expiration dates...except for milk. No way in hell I'm trying it after the expiration date.

I had a bad sour milk episode when I was young. No, not that young.

I remember once when I was about 15, I'd been outside doing yard work all day in the blazing summer sun; I came inside, grabbed the milk from the fridge, and chugged down about a third of the half-gallon carton like Belushi chugging the whiskey in Animal House.  It wasn't chunky or anything, but it wasn't until I paused for air that I actually TASTED what I was drinking - it was something like pizza grease and vinegar.  Checked the date and sure enough, it was about three weeks past; someone must've pulled it out of the back of the fridge without knowing how old it was (we had five kids in the house - always had LOTS of milk).  I never did get sick from it though, never even got the runs...mom said it would've served me right for drinking out of the carton like that anyway.


I've had that before. Can't remember her name.
 
2013-09-19 03:32:06 PM

YixilTesiphon: DROxINxTHExWIND: The statistics of food waste are staggering. It's estimated that a family of four throws away $2,275 each year in food.

I'm sure I was throwing that amount of food away per month at one time. Jesus, I'm a horrible grocery shopper. Finally got tired of seeing good money go down the drain (literally), so now I shop in much smaller increments. Maybe two or max three days worth of meals. I get the smaller sized milk because my son barely touches it, so I'm not tossing a half gallon of milk away every couple of weeks anymore. Instead of cooking a giant pot of spaghetti, I cook smaller portions knowing now that I am NOT going to eat spaghetti everyday for the rest of the week, no matter how much I convince myself that I will. Instead of gettinga satchel of bananas, like I'm expecting Grape Ape for dinner, I just get a few ripe ones so that only one or two are left at the end of the week. Etc.

Jesus, my wife and I spend about $5000/year on food.

Mostly I use sell by dates on things like eggs to see how long they are likely to last. If the grocery store is selling eggs with sell by dates a few days away (fark you Randall's), I stay away.

On the other hand I sometimes buy 36 eggs at Costco with sell by dates far in the future. I ate three this morning that were "best by" yesterday. That doesn't worry me.


Look up egg recycling.

Eggs are so shelf stable that it's legal for the store to send them back, at which point they get mixed in with fresh eggs, put in a carton with a new use by date, and sent back to the store.
 
2013-09-19 03:34:10 PM

Thingster: Look up egg recycling.

Eggs are so shelf stable that it's legal for the store to send them back, at which point they get mixed in with fresh eggs, put in a carton with a new use by date, and sent back to the store.


So use by dates on eggs are functionally meaningless? Delightful.
 
2013-09-19 03:34:51 PM

Seat's Taken: tuna fingers: I agree with these guys FTFA:
Screw those dates. Arbitrary. Empower yourself and use your senses. Does it look smell or taste gross? No, then eat it!'Use by' is a guideline. Scratch 'n sniff is more effective.  Even more so with pharmaceuticals (within reason).

As someone who has tested pharmaceuticals after 3 years in a controlled "bad" environment (H3/H4 - 40°C 75%RH) I can say that while most will last for decades, you have the problem that a few of them degrade into some nasty chemicals.  Oh, and stay away from acetaminophen if at all possible.


I do stay away from acetaminophen, because it doesn't do shiat for me.  Aspirin (mild) or ibuprofin (more severe) is what I use for pain.  Why do you say that about acetaminophen?

/and I am not alone with Tylenol not doing anything regarding pain.  Many people see no decrease in pain because of it.
 
2013-09-19 03:39:50 PM

YixilTesiphon: Thingster: Look up egg recycling.

Eggs are so shelf stable that it's legal for the store to send them back, at which point they get mixed in with fresh eggs, put in a carton with a new use by date, and sent back to the store.

So use by dates on eggs are functionally meaningless? Delightful.


I'm going to do a slight backtrack and rephrase after some clarifying research.

This was legal until 2006.

In 2006, it was deemed illegal *if* the egg package carries a (voluntary) USDA grading label.

So the answer is yes or no, depending on if the egg carton has a grading label.
 
2013-09-19 03:40:17 PM
'Use by' dates contribute to unnessary food waste

until you're lying in the ER waiting to die or for the intern. Either one would be just fine by that time.
idiots

been there done that - should've eaten the Puppy Chow instead of the burger
 
2013-09-19 03:40:47 PM

YixilTesiphon: Thingster: Look up egg recycling.

Eggs are so shelf stable that it's legal for the store to send them back, at which point they get mixed in with fresh eggs, put in a carton with a new use by date, and sent back to the store.

So use by dates on eggs are functionally meaningless? Delightful.


water test, that's all you need.  Floating eggs, no bueno
 
2013-09-19 03:40:54 PM

TheAnusThatAteManhattan: Use your nose and eyes like others in the comments said.


Unless you have a compromised immune system the human body is well evolved in order to be able to tell what's bad and what's not bad.  If it tastes funky, don't eat it.

Russ1642: I know someone that worked at a Real Canadian Stupidstore. They would regularly leave milk and eggs unrefrigerated for days at a time.


Eggs are fine, as is the super-pasteurized and sealed milk; normally pasteurized milk standard here in the states has to be refrigerated to keep it from going bad 'quickly'.
 
2013-09-19 03:42:14 PM

Thingster: YixilTesiphon: DROxINxTHExWIND: The statistics of food waste are staggering. It's estimated that a family of four throws away $2,275 each year in food.

I'm sure I was throwing that amount of food away per month at one time. Jesus, I'm a horrible grocery shopper. Finally got tired of seeing good money go down the drain (literally), so now I shop in much smaller increments. Maybe two or max three days worth of meals. I get the smaller sized milk because my son barely touches it, so I'm not tossing a half gallon of milk away every couple of weeks anymore. Instead of cooking a giant pot of spaghetti, I cook smaller portions knowing now that I am NOT going to eat spaghetti everyday for the rest of the week, no matter how much I convince myself that I will. Instead of gettinga satchel of bananas, like I'm expecting Grape Ape for dinner, I just get a few ripe ones so that only one or two are left at the end of the week. Etc.

Jesus, my wife and I spend about $5000/year on food.

Mostly I use sell by dates on things like eggs to see how long they are likely to last. If the grocery store is selling eggs with sell by dates a few days away (fark you Randall's), I stay away.

On the other hand I sometimes buy 36 eggs at Costco with sell by dates far in the future. I ate three this morning that were "best by" yesterday. That doesn't worry me.

Look up egg recycling.

Eggs are so shelf stable that it's legal for the store to send them back, at which point they get mixed in with fresh eggs, put in a carton with a new use by date, and sent back to the store.



This is information that I do not need. Much like the pink sludge story from a few years ago. I don't want to know how much rat feces is acceptable in my oatmeal. I don't want to know
 
2013-09-19 03:43:28 PM
TheAnusThatAteManhattan: It's worse than that even. I've talked with science and engineering majors who won't use wifi because it's radiation and can cause cancer. Oy vey.

I know someone with multiple degrees (including several masters), that won't use a microwave.

// none of the degrees are in science related areas

// even tons of education can't wash away decades of built up cultural superstition.
 
2013-09-19 03:46:21 PM

Firethorn: TheAnusThatAteManhattan: Use your nose and eyes like others in the comments said.

Unless you have a compromised immune system the human body is well evolved in order to be able to tell what's bad and what's not bad.  If it tastes funky, don't eat it.

Russ1642: I know someone that worked at a Real Canadian Stupidstore. They would regularly leave milk and eggs unrefrigerated for days at a time.

Eggs are fine, as is the super-pasteurized and sealed milk; normally pasteurized milk standard here in the states has to be refrigerated to keep it from going bad 'quickly'.


Agree on the eggs. I only refrigerate eggs for a while before cooking them certain ways. Milk should always be refrigerated, I've lapsed on that rule and died several times as a result.
 
2013-09-19 03:46:24 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: The statistics of food waste are staggering. It's estimated that a family of four throws away $2,275 each year in food.

I'm sure I was throwing that amount of food away per month at one time. Jesus, I'm a horrible grocery shopper. Finally got tired of seeing good money go down the drain (literally), so now I shop in much smaller increments. Maybe two or max three days worth of meals. I get the smaller sized milk because my son barely touches it, so I'm not tossing a half gallon of milk away every couple of weeks anymore. Instead of cooking a giant pot of spaghetti, I cook smaller portions knowing now that I am NOT going to eat spaghetti everyday for the rest of the week, no matter how much I convince myself that I will. Instead of gettinga satchel of bananas, like I'm expecting Grape Ape for dinner, I just get a few ripe ones so that only one or two are left at the end of the week. Etc.


I've learned that it doesn't pay to buy a month's worth of veggies at a time as well. We still bulk up on cans, etc once a month, as I only get paid monthly. But, I'm happy to stop by the store for fresh produce every few days.

I've also learned that even tho Costco produce is usually good, most of it ends up wasted.
 
2013-09-19 03:47:29 PM
That's actually really bad advice for the elderly. Their immune systems are much weaker than your average adult and can't handle the added bacteria that most expired food has.

/most elderly people shouldn't eat leftovers for that reason as well.
 
2013-09-19 03:50:15 PM
I am very careful with food waste.  I usually don't have much to throw away, but I make sure I know what needs to be used.  Occasionally, I have to throw away produce, but since I get that at the 99 cent only store, I don't feel that guilty.  I do make sure to check dates on refrigerated items like eggs and yogurt at the 99 cent only store though.
 
Ant
2013-09-19 03:50:42 PM
I only worry about use by dates if it's a food that could possibly make someone really sick if it was bad.
 
2013-09-19 03:55:09 PM

ReapTheChaos: There will never be a system that works as they describe. Few if any item's have a drop dead "no good after" date. I've had milk spoil the day after I bought it, and I've had some smell and taste fine weeks after the date listed. "Use by" or "best by" are just well educated guesses as to when the product might begin to taste less than desirable when compared to a freshly purchased product. It's up to the individual consumer to decide if the product is acceptable for consumption based on these dates.



My rule of thumb:
"Use by"  = within 2 days after
"Best by" = within a week after
"Sell by"  = within 2 weeks after

/always double check before digging in or tossing, though
 
2013-09-19 03:57:31 PM

TheChaosPath: KellyX: LoneVVolf: If you see a tin can swelled up like a water balloon, nuke it form orbit. Just to be sure...

Unless it's surströmming, then you know it's ready

This.

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well I learned something today.  Is that shiat as nasty as its description?  MMM rotten fish.
 
2013-09-19 03:59:52 PM

neritz: ReapTheChaos: There will never be a system that works as they describe. Few if any item's have a drop dead "no good after" date. I've had milk spoil the day after I bought it, and I've had some smell and taste fine weeks after the date listed. "Use by" or "best by" are just well educated guesses as to when the product might begin to taste less than desirable when compared to a freshly purchased product. It's up to the individual consumer to decide if the product is acceptable for consumption based on these dates.


My rule of thumb:
"Use by"  = within 2 days after
"Best by" = within a week after
"Sell by"  = within 2 weeks after

/always double check before digging in or tossing, though


That doesn't make any sense.  The "best by" is usually on highly processed and packaged stuff like Oreos which could go 12 months after that date easy.
 
2013-09-19 04:02:54 PM

tuna fingers: neritz: ReapTheChaos: There will never be a system that works as they describe. Few if any item's have a drop dead "no good after" date. I've had milk spoil the day after I bought it, and I've had some smell and taste fine weeks after the date listed. "Use by" or "best by" are just well educated guesses as to when the product might begin to taste less than desirable when compared to a freshly purchased product. It's up to the individual consumer to decide if the product is acceptable for consumption based on these dates.


My rule of thumb:
"Use by"  = within 2 days after
"Best by" = within a week after
"Sell by"  = within 2 weeks after

/always double check before digging in or tossing, though

That doesn't make any sense.  The "best by" is usually on highly processed and packaged stuff like Oreos which could go 12 months after that date easy.


Hence, the reason for the double check disclaimer.  Some shiat just lasts forever.
 
2013-09-19 04:06:36 PM
Make "sell by" dates invisible to the consumer. Those dates are guidelines for stores, not consumers.They already do this with bread. The color of the twist-tie or closure-tag indicates to the delivery person when that particular batch is due to be pulled from the shelf. Here, it generally goes to a food bank or homeless organization after that. It's still good, just not for as long.
 
2013-09-19 04:07:29 PM

Carn: TheChaosPath: KellyX: LoneVVolf: If you see a tin can swelled up like a water balloon, nuke it form orbit. Just to be sure...

Unless it's surströmming, then you know it's ready

This.

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well I learned something today.  Is that shiat as nasty as its description?  MMM rotten fish.


At least its canned rotten fish. Icelanders just bury sharks in dirt for a few months or weeks or however long it takes for the flesh to turn into a gelatinous goo.
 
2013-09-19 04:07:51 PM

Seat's Taken: tuna fingers: I agree with these guys FTFA:
Screw those dates. Arbitrary. Empower yourself and use your senses. Does it look smell or taste gross? No, then eat it!'Use by' is a guideline. Scratch 'n sniff is more effective.  Even more so with pharmaceuticals (within reason).

As someone who has tested pharmaceuticals after 3 years in a controlled "bad" environment (H3/H4 - 40°C 75%RH) I can say that while most will last for decades, you have the problem that a few of them degrade into some nasty chemicals.  Oh, and stay away from acetaminophen if at all possible.


OK, I will bite... Why no acetaminophen?  I thought it was the new go-to drug once aspirin started killin kids with fevers or some other BS?
 
2013-09-19 04:16:36 PM
Single male, severe adult ADHD, and love cooking. Horrible mix when it comes to waste. I am now on a budget so have to buy mostly frozen bachelor chow thanks to the price of fresh food here in Canada. I truly believe it is cheaper to eat at subway than cook for my lonesome a decent variety of meals.
 
2013-09-19 04:17:32 PM

buckler: Make "sell by" dates invisible to the consumer. Those dates are guidelines for stores, not consumers.They already do this with bread. The color of the twist-tie or closure-tag indicates to the delivery person when that particular batch is due to be pulled from the shelf. Here, it generally goes to a food bank or homeless organization after that. It's still good, just not for as long.


How about the opposite. That way when I stop by the convenience store that doesn't have high turnover I can see that the Chips Ahoy's are four years old already.
 
2013-09-19 04:18:56 PM

purplegiraffe: Seat's Taken: tuna fingers: I agree with these guys FTFA:
Screw those dates. Arbitrary. Empower yourself and use your senses. Does it look smell or taste gross? No, then eat it!'Use by' is a guideline. Scratch 'n sniff is more effective.  Even more so with pharmaceuticals (within reason).

As someone who has tested pharmaceuticals after 3 years in a controlled "bad" environment (H3/H4 - 40°C 75%RH) I can say that while most will last for decades, you have the problem that a few of them degrade into some nasty chemicals.  Oh, and stay away from acetaminophen if at all possible.

OK, I will bite... Why no acetaminophen?  I thought it was the new go-to drug once aspirin started killin kids with fevers or some other BS?


I don't know about freshness effects, but people are getting concerned that acetaminophen can fark up one's liver if used enough/too much. I remember reading in the alt.suicide.holiday methods FAQ long ago, the side effects of ODing on it (method advantage: cheap and easy to get one's hands on. disadvantage: many painful days long).
 
2013-09-19 04:19:37 PM
I really couldn't find the right pic..

www.popmommy.com

but, the lady from WI that hoarded food.  That lady ate stuff that was over 2 years old.  We need moar food hoarders!
 
2013-09-19 04:22:45 PM
I haven't noticed if someone else said this, but the sell by dates (for most companies) are intentionally short.
 
2013-09-19 04:23:28 PM

Petit_Merdeux: It's Meatcake!


Came for this.  Surprised it took this far into the thread!
There's a bigger responsibility, and that is getting into that refrigerator and deciding which things need to be thrown away. Most peoplewill not take that responsibility. Most people will just go and get what they want, leave everything else alone, and say, 'Well, someone else wants that. Someone else will eat that.' Meanwhile, the thing is getting smaller, and smaller, and smaller...and is, in fact, stuck to the rack.

Well, I've gotta' go in there and decide when to throw things away. 'Chocolate pudding, does anyone want this last chocolate pudding? I have just one chocolate pudding left, it's only pulled away from the side of the dish about three inches all the way around...and there's a huge fault running through the center of the pudding. Actually, it's nothing but a ball of skin at this point. Does anyone want a ball of fault-ridden chocolate pudding skin, I'm only going to throw it away.'

Do people do that with you? Offer you some food that, if you don't eat it,they're only going to 'throw it away' Well, doesn't that make you feel dandy?'Here's some something to eat, Dave, hurry up, it's spoiling....something for you, Angela, eat quickly, that green pod is moving...here Bob, eat this before I give it to an animal.'"

"You ever been looking through the refrigerator, and you come across an empty plate? Boy, that starts me to wondering. DID SOMETHING EAT SOMETHING ELSE?!?! WHOA...MAYBE THE OLIVES ATE THE TUNA...MAYBE THAT CHICKEN ISN'T REALLY DEAD YET. Actually, I picture a little mouse with gloves and a parka on, you know, just waiting for the lights to go out."

 "Perhaps the worst thing that can happen is to reach into the refrigerator and come out with something that you cannot identify...at all. You literally do not know what it is! Could be meat...could be cake. Usually, at a time like this, I'll bluff:'Honey, is this good?''Well, what is it?''I don't know...I've never seen anything like it. It looks like...MEATCAKE!''Well, smell it!''(sniff)-ah, (sniff)-ah...it has absolutely no smell whatsoever!''It's good!'
 
2013-09-19 04:23:34 PM

Russ1642: buckler: Make "sell by" dates invisible to the consumer. Those dates are guidelines for stores, not consumers.They already do this with bread. The color of the twist-tie or closure-tag indicates to the delivery person when that particular batch is due to be pulled from the shelf. Here, it generally goes to a food bank or homeless organization after that. It's still good, just not for as long.

How about the opposite. That way when I stop by the convenience store that doesn't have high turnover I can see that the Chips Ahoy's are four years old already.


And that's when the "best by" date would be printed on the package. I think, in a roundabout way, the author is saying that people confuse the "sell by" date (after which the product is good for a significant amount of time), and the "best by" date (after which the product may continue to be good for quite a long time, but just not as tasty. For example, hot jarred horseradish will lose its kick after a couple months, but is still perfectly fine to eat).
 
2013-09-19 04:24:27 PM

purplegiraffe: Seat's Taken: tuna fingers: I agree with these guys FTFA:
Screw those dates. Arbitrary. Empower yourself and use your senses. Does it look smell or taste gross? No, then eat it!'Use by' is a guideline. Scratch 'n sniff is more effective.  Even more so with pharmaceuticals (within reason).

As someone who has tested pharmaceuticals after 3 years in a controlled "bad" environment (H3/H4 - 40°C 75%RH) I can say that while most will last for decades, you have the problem that a few of them degrade into some nasty chemicals.  Oh, and stay away from acetaminophen if at all possible.

OK, I will bite... Why no acetaminophen?  I thought it was the new go-to drug once aspirin started killin kids with fevers or some other BS?


I don't know about it spoiling, but it can be really hard on your liver.  There are new drug labeling laws because people were accidentally overdosing and going into liver failure.  Oh, and if you drink at all more than a token beer now and again, def be careful with it.
 
2013-09-19 04:25:31 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: How else am I supposed to know when my bleu cheese goes bad?


I'm a fan of Gorgonzola, which is similar enough. After to long, it starts to develop a slightly sour smell in plastic bag where I keep it, the surface can go from white to slightly yellowish, and, after a while, fuzzy mold can develop. Still, aside from the smell, it takes a discerning eye.

I don't know why spoiled milk can wreak havoc on my intestines when this doesn't.
 
2013-09-19 04:27:05 PM
So wait... the food companies put dates on their products that limit the amount of time between trips to the grocery store to buy the same product? UNPOSSIBLE!!!!!!1!!1!

Lots of people seem to not fark around with milk.  That's funny to me since it's the item that is most accomodating about telling you when it's bad by its smell.
 
2013-09-19 04:28:00 PM

Thudfark: Carn: TheChaosPath: KellyX: LoneVVolf: If you see a tin can swelled up like a water balloon, nuke it form orbit. Just to be sure...

Unless it's surströmming, then you know it's ready

This.

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well I learned something today.  Is that shiat as nasty as its description?  MMM rotten fish.

At least its canned rotten fish. Icelanders just bury sharks in dirt for a few months or weeks or however long it takes for the flesh to turn into a gelatinous goo.


I laughed entirely too hard at this.

/Been stuck in meetings all-day meetings all week, getting kind of punch drunk
 
2013-09-19 04:28:04 PM

ReapTheChaos: There will never be a system that works as they describe. Few if any item's have a drop dead "no good after" date. I've had milk spoil the day after I bought it, and I've had some smell and taste fine weeks after the date listed. "Use by" or "best by" are just well educated guesses as to when the product might begin to taste less than desirable when compared to a freshly purchased product. It's up to the individual consumer to decide if the product is acceptable for consumption based on these dates.

Bottom line, if I'm the least bit unsure, I'll throw it away. I'm not going to risk food poisoning over the last dollop of mayo in the jar.


Milk...cream, just have to try it at the grocery store first.

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2013-09-19 04:30:03 PM
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And other businesses like it, including the vending businesses, waste more food in one day than an average person will all year.

They're the real culprit.

/bonus, most of them will fire you if you try to take home anything they told you to throw out
 
JVD
2013-09-19 04:39:54 PM
I don't really go by the dates on anything. Look, sniff, and if it passes, take a bite. If tastes fine then I eat it. Dry goods are indefinitely good as far as I'm concerned.
Craziest thing is eggs though. I've eaten eggs that say they are a Month passed, but they still pass the sink/float test.
 
2013-09-19 04:40:01 PM

Seat's Taken: tuna fingers: I agree with these guys FTFA:
Screw those dates. Arbitrary. Empower yourself and use your senses. Does it look smell or taste gross? No, then eat it!'Use by' is a guideline. Scratch 'n sniff is more effective.  Even more so with pharmaceuticals (within reason).

As someone who has tested pharmaceuticals after 3 years in a controlled "bad" environment (H3/H4 - 40°C 75%RH) I can say that while most will last for decades, you have the problem that a few of them degrade into some nasty chemicals.  Oh, and stay away from acetaminophen if at all possible.


Word on acetaminophen. That poison should not be available to people period. Incredibly dangerous drug for drinkers and people who tend to over medicate themselves.

/Need my liver as intact as possible for many more years of gregarious alcohol abuse

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2013-09-19 04:44:19 PM

Deathfrogg: "Use by" dates do have a purpose. On a tour with a friends band years ago, we stopped in a little town in northern California to stock up on road munchies and beer. Several people bought those nasty prepackaged sandwiches that all those places seem to have. When we opened them, they were this awful green color with mold and shiat, so folks checked the "sell by" date on them, and they were literally over a month past due. We took them back into the store and the dude refused to refund our money because the packages were opened. So things started getting nasty and loud. He called the cops. Cops showed up, and we showed them the packages.

Meanwhile, the storekeeper's wife or whoever was in the back of the coolers pulling all the other stuff off the shelves as fast as she could. Cop does a little investigation in the garbage and found out that nearly every food item in the store was at least a couple weeks past the sell-by date and told this greasy little prick to give us back our money. Meanwhile, he's screaming at the cops to arrest us for shoplifting and all sorts of other crap, trying to convince him that we just tried to rob him and such. Cop tells us to leave, and that he was closing the store on an emergency health basis because the store was where the cops had been getting their own road munchies for years.

There is a reason for those expiration dates. I make sure to check all of them now.


Obviously meat and dairy have a short lifespan. A box of Cap'n Crunch? Not so much. It just starts getting a stale taste eventually. It doesn't send you to the ER in diarrhea/vomit purgatory.
 
2013-09-19 04:47:04 PM

MythDragon: I'll chance it with everything but milk. If milk says expires 20 Sep, 11:59 on Sep 19th I am pouring that bastard down the sink. (if I'm up. Otherwise it can wait until morning). I drank chunky milk once. Never again.


This is why civilized Farkers pour their milk into a glass before they drink it. The chunk test.

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