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2013-09-19 12:25:33 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-09-19 12:29:04 PM  
I am more conviced than ever that the HCA will save people money now.  Why else would people throw so much cash at trying to kill it?
 
2013-09-19 12:35:36 PM  
How many of those college students will just remain on their parents insurance?
 
2013-09-19 12:37:39 PM  
Generation Opportunity, a Virginia-based group that is part of a coalition of right-leaning organizations with financial ties to billionaire businessmen and political activists Charles and David Koch

archive.4chon.net
 
2013-09-19 12:38:05 PM  
GOP: Pro-cervical cancer.
 
2013-09-19 12:40:27 PM  

doyner: I am more conviced than ever that the HCA will save people money now.  Why else would people throw so much cash at trying to kill it?


Poppycock! Nobody cares more for the average poor 20-something American more than Republicans. That's why they've cornered the youth vote, or hadn't you noticed?
 
2013-09-19 12:44:24 PM  
"What we're trying to communicate is, 'No, you're actually not required to buy health insurance,'" Generation Opportunity President Evan Feinberg told Yahoo News in an interview about the campaign. "You might have to pay a fine, but that's going to be cheaper for you and better for you."

It's sooo much BETTER to have NO health insurance at all! Then you have more money for beer and pizza! Whoooooo!
 
2013-09-19 12:45:57 PM  
Under the law, those who do not sign up for health insurance in 2014 will be required to pay $95 or one percent of household income through the Internal Revenue Service. The fine will increase after that. Generation Opportunity activists will try to convince young people that it's better for them to pay the fine, even if it means lacking coverage.

Lovely.
 
2013-09-19 12:46:47 PM  
Young republican women now can't get perscription contraception and if they get knocked up they won't have insurance for prenatal care.

Brilliant.
 
2013-09-19 12:47:55 PM  
Hey young people!  You can't have birth control or abortions!  You can't be gay!  We want you in debt for the rest of your lives to Sallie Mae!  We've wasted three years screwing around with Benghazi while you wasted away in your parent's basements because you can't find jobs!  We're not even sure we're going to let you vote!  But we think you should totally ignore ObamaCare!  Trust us, we have your best interests at heart!
 
2013-09-19 12:49:26 PM  
In November 2003, a Republican Congress voted for George W. Bush's Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act. It won by one vote in the House (through bullying, bribes, and extraordinary procedural hinkiness by Majority Leader Tom DeLay) and sailed through the Senate. Still, many Democrats, especially in House, opposed the law. In November 2006, Americans had had enough of GOP farkery and voted in a Democratic Congress. You know what that new Congress didn't do? They didn't try to torpedo the MPDIMA. They didn't have masturbatory show votes to demonstrate to their constituents that they really, truly could suck their own cocks or lick their own clits. You know what they tried to do? Acknowledging that it was the law of the land, they tried to improve it.

Yeah, in January 2007, shortly after leadership changed parties, the now-Democratic-led House voted for the Medicare Prescription Drug Price Negotiation Act, 255-170. See, the Democrats wanted Medicare to be able to negotiate drug prices with the extortionists in the pharmaceutical industry. They wanted to make the MPDIMA more cost-effective, not just take it out back and put three bullets in its skull. It would have passed the Senate, except the now-in-the-minority Republicans filibustered it, every single farking one of them (with one abstention). Why? Because that's how a bunch of assholes rolls.

How Republicans Are Motherfarkers Where Democrats Are Not
 
2013-09-19 12:51:14 PM  
Republicans across the land should be tearing up their insurance cards in protest.
 
2013-09-19 12:57:11 PM  
Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?
 
2013-09-19 01:03:23 PM  

vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?


Donnie's out of his element.
 
2013-09-19 01:04:56 PM  

doyner: vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?

Donnie's out of his element.


Why is it relevant what car he drives?
 
2013-09-19 01:08:27 PM  

vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?


Koch brother reply to Donnie? STFU
 
2013-09-19 01:10:47 PM  

vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?


Will he have a variety show he hosts with his sister, Marie?
 
2013-09-19 01:15:33 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: "What we're trying to communicate is, 'No, you're actually not required to buy health insurance,'" Generation Opportunity President Evan Feinberg told Yahoo News in an interview about the campaign. "You might have to pay a fine, but that's going to be cheaper for you and better for you."

It's sooo much BETTER to have NO health insurance at all! Then you have more money for beer and pizza! Whoooooo!


Their basic premise is that young people don't need insurance.
Because young people don't engage in risky actions like sports or anything like that...
 
2013-09-19 01:15:42 PM  
It's amusing that the GOP's most desired target in their anti-Obamacare campaigns (young people, especially women) are the ones that hate and distrust them the most.
 
2013-09-19 01:16:45 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?

Will he have a variety show he hosts with his sister, Marie?


She's a little bit country.  And he's a little bit rock-and-roll. . .
 
2013-09-19 01:30:24 PM  
FTA: Under the law, those who do not sign up for health insurance in 2014 will be required to pay $95 or one percent of household income through the Internal Revenue Service. The fine will increase after that. Generation Opportunity activists will try to convince young people that it's better for them to pay the fine, even if it means lacking coverage.

Others in this thread have already posted this exact quote but holy cow how stupid do you have to be to actually pay for the privilege of not having health cover?

In the UK health insurance is also a huge political issue. Any party even hinting that they would cut the NHS would get slaughtered at the polls. It's not perfect but it means anyone can call and ambulance or walk into an ER and get treatment without the issue of payment even occurring to them. Having to pay $15 for each course of drugs is already far too much in some people's minds.
And nationally the NHS works out far cheaper per capita than US healthcare and gives a longer life expectancy.

The only problem with Obamacare is it doesn't go anywhere near enough. Scrapping the NHS and replacing it with a watered down ACA would never in a million years get political traction in the UK.
 
2013-09-19 01:34:51 PM  

Flint Ironstag: FTA: Under the law, those who do not sign up for health insurance in 2014 will be required to pay $95 or one percent of household income through the Internal Revenue Service. The fine will increase after that. Generation Opportunity activists will try to convince young people that it's better for them to pay the fine, even if it means lacking coverage.

Others in this thread have already posted this exact quote but holy cow how stupid do you have to be to actually pay for the privilege of not having health cover?

In the UK health insurance is also a huge political issue. Any party even hinting that they would cut the NHS would get slaughtered at the polls. It's not perfect but it means anyone can call and ambulance or walk into an ER and get treatment without the issue of payment even occurring to them. Having to pay $15 for each course of drugs is already far too much in some people's minds.
And nationally the NHS works out far cheaper per capita than US healthcare and gives a longer life expectancy.

The only problem with Obamacare is it doesn't go anywhere near enough. Scrapping the NHS and replacing it with a watered down ACA would never in a million years get political traction in the UK.


This is why you Brits are still under the iron thumb of the Queen! You clearly have no regard for freedoms and such as.
 
2013-09-19 01:35:21 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: How Republicans Are Motherfarkers Where Democrats Are Not


thanks for that.   I need to send this link on to a few people.
 
2013-09-19 01:38:19 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Flint Ironstag: FTA: Under the law, those who do not sign up for health insurance in 2014 will be required to pay $95 or one percent of household income through the Internal Revenue Service. The fine will increase after that. Generation Opportunity activists will try to convince young people that it's better for them to pay the fine, even if it means lacking coverage.

Others in this thread have already posted this exact quote but holy cow how stupid do you have to be to actually pay for the privilege of not having health cover?

In the UK health insurance is also a huge political issue. Any party even hinting that they would cut the NHS would get slaughtered at the polls. It's not perfect but it means anyone can call and ambulance or walk into an ER and get treatment without the issue of payment even occurring to them. Having to pay $15 for each course of drugs is already far too much in some people's minds.
And nationally the NHS works out far cheaper per capita than US healthcare and gives a longer life expectancy.

The only problem with Obamacare is it doesn't go anywhere near enough. Scrapping the NHS and replacing it with a watered down ACA would never in a million years get political traction in the UK.

This is why you Brits are still under the iron thumb of the Queen! You clearly have no regard for freedoms and such as.


Some people got mad at me in another healthcare thread because I said the total cost of my last trip to ER was the 80 pence I spent on a cup of coffee while I waited twenty minutes to be seen.

Dammit coffee should be socialised! I want my free government coffee!
 
2013-09-19 01:42:08 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Some people got mad at me in another healthcare thread because I said the total cost of my last trip to ER was the 80 pence I spent on a cup of coffee while I waited twenty minutes to be seen.

Dammit coffee should be socialised! I want my free government coffee!


And you guys also spend time getting your cooters in a twist because of how people sit on a train...
 
2013-09-19 01:44:43 PM  
Still Think Obamacare is a Good Thing? Here comes creepy Uncle Sam to convince you otherwise Well, you're a farkin' idiot.

FTFsubby
 
2013-09-19 01:45:09 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Flint Ironstag: Some people got mad at me in another healthcare thread because I said the total cost of my last trip to ER was the 80 pence I spent on a cup of coffee while I waited twenty minutes to be seen.

Dammit coffee should be socialised! I want my free government coffee!

And you guys also spend time getting your cooters in a twist because of how people sit on a train...


No, we turned that thread into discussing what really matters. Jenna Louise Coleman's bewbs.
 
2013-09-19 01:46:58 PM  
If it did not save middle class people money at the expense of the health insurance companies republicans would not be against it, bottom line that's all you need to know. That's the message democrats should be pushing.
 
2013-09-19 01:48:27 PM  
Generation Opportunity activists will try to convince young people that it's better for them to pay the fine, even if it means lacking coverage.

Well that's not-at-all evil.
 
2013-09-19 01:49:15 PM  
"What we're trying to communicate is, 'No, you're actually not required to buy health insurance,'" Generation Opportunity President Evan Feinberg told Yahoo News in an interview about the campaign. "You might have to pay a fine, but that's going to be cheaper for you and better for you."

Tens of thousands of Americans die every year because they lack health insurance. Statistically speaking, at least one person you convince to go without health insurance will die because of that reason. You're actively inciting people to be martyrs for your cause even though you almost certainly will not do the same and go without health insurance. Excuse me while I go projectile vomit.
 
2013-09-19 01:51:40 PM  

Headso: If it did not save middle class people money at the expense of the health insurance companies republicans would not be against it, bottom line that's all you need to know. That's the message democrats should be pushing.


Really? I thought Republicans were against it because Obama has a D after his name.
 
2013-09-19 01:52:02 PM  
I'm still having a hard time comprehending how access to fire service, police service, etc. are all considered public goods, while access to health care is a market commodity, but I guess I'm weird.

Or am I the only one who hasn't been out shopping for Police insurance and just been lucky I've never needed it?
 
2013-09-19 01:52:46 PM  
I am not sure how these college kids are going to have the energy for principled stances when they're dying of treatable cancer in their dorm rooms.
 
2013-09-19 01:53:09 PM  

Flint Ironstag: UrukHaiGuyz: Flint Ironstag: FTA: Under the law, those who do not sign up for health insurance in 2014 will be required to pay $95 or one percent of household income through the Internal Revenue Service. The fine will increase after that. Generation Opportunity activists will try to convince young people that it's better for them to pay the fine, even if it means lacking coverage.

Others in this thread have already posted this exact quote but holy cow how stupid do you have to be to actually pay for the privilege of not having health cover?

In the UK health insurance is also a huge political issue. Any party even hinting that they would cut the NHS would get slaughtered at the polls. It's not perfect but it means anyone can call and ambulance or walk into an ER and get treatment without the issue of payment even occurring to them. Having to pay $15 for each course of drugs is already far too much in some people's minds.
And nationally the NHS works out far cheaper per capita than US healthcare and gives a longer life expectancy.

The only problem with Obamacare is it doesn't go anywhere near enough. Scrapping the NHS and replacing it with a watered down ACA would never in a million years get political traction in the UK.

This is why you Brits are still under the iron thumb of the Queen! You clearly have no regard for freedoms and such as.

Some people got mad at me in another healthcare thread because I said the total cost of my last trip to ER was the 80 pence I spent on a cup of coffee while I waited twenty minutes to be seen.

Dammit coffee should be socialised! I want my free government coffee!


Haven't you heard coffee will be unavailable to most people sometime around 2040 because of global warming. Enjoy it know, because there never will be enough for free government coffee.
 
2013-09-19 01:54:09 PM  

error 303: I'm still having a hard time comprehending how access to fire service, police service, etc. are all considered public goods, while access to health care is a market commodity, but I guess I'm weird.

Or am I the only one who hasn't been out shopping for Police insurance and just been lucky I've never needed it?


There are some that will watch your house smolder if you don't send them a donation.  So I guess we have hybrid services out there too.
 
2013-09-19 01:54:24 PM  
Seriously asking as a young, healthy person who just got a letter two weeks ago that the rates on my current plan are increasing by 12% for my family, why would I not want to take a look at the rates offered by the exchanges and compare them to what I have now?
 
2013-09-19 01:54:32 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Haven't you heard coffee will be unavailable to most people sometime around 2040 because of global warming.


Yeah, OK, you just stopped being funny, pal.
 
2013-09-19 01:54:53 PM  
Allyou have to do is tweak the soundtrack a bit and change the last title card, and you've got a great Planned Parenthood ad.
 
2013-09-19 01:55:21 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: doyner: vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?

Donnie's out of his element.

Why is it relevant what car he drives?


I love this exchange.
 
2013-09-19 01:55:51 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Generation Opportunity, a Virginia-based group that is part of a coalition of right-leaning organizations with financial ties to billionaire businessmen and political activists Charles and David Koch

[archive.4chon.net image 255x183]


"Generation Opportunity" sounds like an organization Gen-Y college Republicans go directly to after getting their BAs.
 
2013-09-19 01:55:57 PM  
How many college students get prostate exams? How many of those happen during physicals?
 
2013-09-19 01:56:01 PM  
That is some freaky kinky medical patriotic sex play.
 
2013-09-19 01:56:47 PM  
I opted out of Obamacare and I'm healthier than I've ever been.

Thank God I don't have insurance!
 
2013-09-19 01:56:54 PM  

coeyagi: error 303: I'm still having a hard time comprehending how access to fire service, police service, etc. are all considered public goods, while access to health care is a market commodity, but I guess I'm weird.

Or am I the only one who hasn't been out shopping for Police insurance and just been lucky I've never needed it?

There are some that will watch your house smolder if you don't send them a donation.  So I guess we have hybrid services out there too.


Well, that's largely tied to unincorporated towns who refuse to pay municipalities for the service, yes?
 
2013-09-19 01:57:12 PM  
GOP sez YOLO!!1!
 
2013-09-19 01:57:27 PM  

coeyagi: error 303: I'm still having a hard time comprehending how access to fire service, police service, etc. are all considered public goods, while access to health care is a market commodity, but I guess I'm weird.

Or am I the only one who hasn't been out shopping for Police insurance and just been lucky I've never needed it?

There are some that will watch your house smolder if you don't send them a donation.  So I guess we have hybrid services out there too.


Citation Needed.

What I have read multiple times are people who choose to take risks and not pay for fire service. Their house goes up in flames and then they are pissed that the fire department didn't pay them. Or maybe the fire department should put the fire out and bill them the ten grand it costs to put the fire out.
 
2013-09-19 01:58:47 PM  

Nadie_AZ: UrukHaiGuyz: doyner: vernonFL: Let me tell you a story:

Donnie is a 22 year old college student with no health insurance. He watches the GOP ad and decides to "opt out" and not get health insurance, even though it is available and affordable.

In 2015, Donnie is involved in a car accident and sustains major injuries which require surgery and a lengthy hospital stay and months of rehab.

Will the Koch brothers pay for Donnie's expenses?

Donnie's out of his element.

Why is it relevant what car he drives?

I love this exchange.


If Donnie loved the exchange, he'd have insurance!!
 
2013-09-19 01:59:46 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Headso: If it did not save middle class people money at the expense of the health insurance companies republicans would not be against it, bottom line that's all you need to know. That's the message democrats should be pushing.

Really? I thought Republicans were against it because Obama has a D after his name.


that was probably their first reaction before the bribes came in to solidify their position.
 
2013-09-19 02:00:40 PM  

Serious Black: "What we're trying to communicate is, 'No, you're actually not required to buy health insurance,'" Generation Opportunity President Evan Feinberg told Yahoo News in an interview about the campaign. "You might have to pay a fine, but that's going to be cheaper for you and better for you."

Tens of thousands of Americans die every year because they lack health insurance. Statistically speaking, at least one person you convince to go without health insurance will die because of that reason. You're actively inciting people to be martyrs for your cause even though you almost certainly will not do the same and go without health insurance. Excuse me while I go projectile vomit.


someone should email that dude and ask if he has health insurance for himself and his fam
 
2013-09-19 02:01:28 PM  

kidgenius: coeyagi: error 303: I'm still having a hard time comprehending how access to fire service, police service, etc. are all considered public goods, while access to health care is a market commodity, but I guess I'm weird.

Or am I the only one who hasn't been out shopping for Police insurance and just been lucky I've never needed it?

There are some that will watch your house smolder if you don't send them a donation.  So I guess we have hybrid services out there too.

Citation Needed.

What I have read multiple times are people who choose to take risks and not pay for fire service. Their house goes up in flames and then they are pissed that the fire department didn't pay them. Or maybe the fire department should put the fire out and bill them the ten grand it costs to put the fire out.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tennessee-family-home-burns-whi le -firefighters-watch-191241763.html

Yes, it was some white trash in TN.  I stand corrected.  I guess I have a problem with the pay service for those folks out in incorporated land.  Just tax them appropriately for being WT out in No Man's Land.
 
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