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(Daily Mail)   Gennifer Flowers on Bill Clinton, "We'd be together if not for Chelsea." That little homewrecker. Possibly Not safe for work pic in article   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 108
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2013-09-19 09:48:33 AM  
No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-09-19 09:48:47 AM  
The capacity for self-delusion seems quite common among the discarded sex partners of the upper class. I'm not sure what it is about some women who want to believe that because he cheated on his wife with you, that he's interested in you as wife material, or that he won't cheat on you when a younger model drifts under his nose.
 
2013-09-19 09:55:04 AM  
I doubt they'd still be together.
 
2013-09-19 09:57:39 AM  
More importantly, who gives a shiat what she thinks?
 
2013-09-19 09:58:31 AM  

James!: More importantly, who gives a shiat what she thinks?


If those two crazy lovers can't make it, what chance do the rest of us have?
 
2013-09-19 09:59:21 AM  
I was singing in nightclubs, wearing very sexy outifts and gowns, a very independent liberated woman. I was the Madonna of my day - in Little Rock.

Are we absolutely certain this is not humor?
 
2013-09-19 10:03:25 AM  
She listens to a lot of Dido, doesn't she?
 
2013-09-19 10:04:46 AM  
Possibly? That's a lot of nipple in that picture.
 
2013-09-19 10:05:32 AM  
This reminds me, aren't the Obama kids about 12 or 13 now?  Doesn't that make them old enough for middle-aged Republican men to start telling me how ugly they are?
 
2013-09-19 10:05:50 AM  
"We'd be together if not for Chelsea."

tvocrats.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-19 10:06:08 AM  

ampoliros: Possibly? That's a lot of nipple in that picture.


Blurry nipple.  It reminds me of the early days of watching scrambled porn on cable.
 
2013-09-19 10:07:40 AM  
I blame Lampard.
 
2013-09-19 10:08:15 AM  

Rapmaster2000: This reminds me, aren't the Obama kids about 12 or 13 now?  Doesn't that make them old enough for middle-aged Republican men to start telling me how ugly they are?


They are intimidated by the older one because she is taller than they are.
 
2013-09-19 10:08:58 AM  
Sure, what what the hell.
 
2013-09-19 10:09:19 AM  
Women who can sleep with someone and then have someone else pay them a million dollars for taking it like a champ shouldn't complain.
 
2013-09-19 10:12:18 AM  
Seems legit.
 
2013-09-19 10:16:07 AM  

js34603: Seems legit.


Now I'm totally convinced that Hillary is going to make Gay the official religion of the USA if she gets elected in 2016.

So vote Republican.
 
2013-09-19 10:16:31 AM  
Clinton's (Bill) taste in women has always been a head-scratcher. This one you can understand.
 
2013-09-19 10:17:42 AM  

I_C_Weener: James!: More importantly, who gives a shiat what she thinks?

If those two crazy lovers can't make it, what chance do the rest of us have?


Fair to middling.
 
2013-09-19 10:17:57 AM  

Cletus C.: Clinton's (Bill) taste in women has always been a head-scratcher. This one you can understand.


A little crazy.  Damned hot.  Loose morals.  And a nose for business.
 
2013-09-19 10:18:51 AM  
But, did she plan on sleeping with any other Presidential candidates?  Did he wear a rubber?

/ta
//ta
///toothy
 
2013-09-19 10:20:32 AM  

Cletus C.: Clinton's (Bill) taste in women has always been a head-scratcher. This one you can understand.


I think it's basically, they have to have a vagina.  A pulse may be optional.

And to say that Bill told her Hillary's bi?  How bi?  Has sex with Bill and affairs with women bi?  Or had an experimental relationship with a girl in college bi?  I mean... yeah, I heard those rumours when I lived in DC, and no one seemed to care.
 
2013-09-19 10:21:54 AM  
Daily Fail gets an exclusive with a washed up attention whore. I'll bet that was hard to do.
 
2013-09-19 10:22:57 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Cletus C.: Clinton's (Bill) taste in women has always been a head-scratcher. This one you can understand.

I think it's basically, they have to have a vagina.  A pulse may be optional.

And to say that Bill told her Hillary's bi?  How bi?  Has sex with Bill and affairs with women bi?  Or had an experimental relationship with a girl in college bi?  I mean... yeah, I heard those rumours when I lived in DC, and no one seemed to care.


Huma cares.  A lot.
 
2013-09-19 10:27:32 AM  

James!: More importantly, who gives a shiat what she thinks?


the right wing media. they're dragging her out of the mothballs and getting her ready for 2016.
 
2013-09-19 10:29:05 AM  

I_C_Weener: Benevolent Misanthrope: Cletus C.: Clinton's (Bill) taste in women has always been a head-scratcher. This one you can understand.

I think it's basically, they have to have a vagina.  A pulse may be optional.

And to say that Bill told her Hillary's bi?  How bi?  Has sex with Bill and affairs with women bi?  Or had an experimental relationship with a girl in college bi?  I mean... yeah, I heard those rumours when I lived in DC, and no one seemed to care.

Huma cares.  A lot.


just the GOP slime machine starting the "Hillary is bisexual" whisper campaign.
 
2013-09-19 10:29:11 AM  

James!: More importantly, who gives a shiat what she thinks?


I predict Fox News sometime around May 2016 to January 22, 2017.
 
2013-09-19 10:32:29 AM  
Gennifer Flowers back in the spotlight? Did they raise the rent at the trailer park?
 
2013-09-19 10:32:37 AM  

Hobodeluxe: James!: More importantly, who gives a shiat what she thinks?

the right wing media. they're dragging her out of the mothballs and getting her ready for 2016.


Right wing British media.
 
2013-09-19 10:33:16 AM  

Rapmaster2000: This reminds me, aren't the Obama kids about 12 or 13 now?  Doesn't that make them old enough for middle-aged Republican men to start telling me how ugly they are?


That already happened.
 
2013-09-19 10:35:18 AM  

MFAWG: Rapmaster2000: This reminds me, aren't the Obama kids about 12 or 13 now?  Doesn't that make them old enough for middle-aged Republican men to start telling me how ugly they are?

That already happened.


Bonus: Ghetto Trash!
 
2013-09-19 10:37:15 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: And to say that Bill told her Hillary's bi? How bi? Has sex with Bill and affairs with women bi? Or had an experimental relationship with a girl in college bi? I mean... yeah, I heard those rumours when I lived in DC, and no one seemed to care.


FTA:" It was me, Bill and Hillary".
Just exactly what does that mean? How bi is everyone in this?
 
2013-09-19 10:37:19 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: MFAWG: Rapmaster2000: This reminds me, aren't the Obama kids about 12 or 13 now?  Doesn't that make them old enough for middle-aged Republican men to start telling me how ugly they are?

That already happened.

Bonus: Ghetto Trash!


Terrorist fist jabs!

WHERE'S MY MOTHERF*CKING ICED TEA?
 
2013-09-19 10:37:37 AM  

Hobodeluxe: I_C_Weener: Benevolent Misanthrope: Cletus C.: Clinton's (Bill) taste in women has always been a head-scratcher. This one you can understand.

I think it's basically, they have to have a vagina.  A pulse may be optional.

And to say that Bill told her Hillary's bi?  How bi?  Has sex with Bill and affairs with women bi?  Or had an experimental relationship with a girl in college bi?  I mean... yeah, I heard those rumours when I lived in DC, and no one seemed to care.

Huma cares.  A lot.

just the GOP slime machine starting the "Hillary is bisexual" whisper campaign.


I suppose we should call it progress - last time this came up, during the Clinton Administration, it was "Hillary is a seekrit lesbian".
 
2013-09-19 10:39:39 AM  
Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.
 
2013-09-19 10:43:20 AM  

randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.


This. They know the other could destroy their lives and put them in jail (or fried)
 
2013-09-19 10:44:57 AM  

randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.


Former presidents don't get prosecuted, you don't really need examples do you?
 
2013-09-19 10:46:26 AM  

Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-09-19 10:46:52 AM  
Bisexual Hillary Clinton was not the mental image I wanted stuck in my head...
 
2013-09-19 10:54:22 AM  
If Bill Clinton didn't like being around HIllary any more, at least occasionally, he would've divorced her long ago.  Obviously he gets intellectual stimulation from her, if not sexual.
 
2013-09-19 10:55:27 AM  

Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.


I actually don't think that's true at all. I think they're an amazing match intellectually and they care about all of the same things. That's actually quite a lot to base a marriage on.

I also think that maybe, just maybe, they had an open marriage and that it wouldn't have been a big deal if alternative relationships didn't make the American people clutch their pearls in horror.
 
2013-09-19 10:59:19 AM  
Where can I not buy her new book?
 
2013-09-19 11:00:18 AM  

way south: Bisexual Hillary Clinton was not the mental image I wanted stuck in my head...


You know how Oprah was either fat Oprah or thin Oprah?  Hillary is like that.  She has some pics out there that make her look very attractive.  And then some that make her look like some kind of cankle beast from the black lagoon.  Very strange to me.
 
2013-09-19 11:00:52 AM  

I_C_Weener: ampoliros: Possibly? That's a lot of nipple in that picture.

Blurry nipple.  It reminds me of the early days of watching scrambled porn on cable.


Scroll further down. It's the picture with the black box over her black box.
 
2013-09-19 11:04:54 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

I actually don't think that's true at all. I think they're an amazing match intellectually and they care about all of the same things. That's actually quite a lot to base a marriage on.

I also think that maybe, just maybe, they had an open marriage and that it wouldn't have been a big deal if alternative relationships didn't make the American people clutch their pearls in horror.


I with you partially.  I think they do essentially have an open marriage, however it was not supposed to appear an open marriage because that defeats the purpose of the marriage.  People in certain positions need to be married to be taken seriously.  Looking at China, most successful gay men have wives....of the opposite sex.  IMO, more intelligent people are more likely to behave outside ritualistic societal norms.  A Bill Clinton is more likely to have a desire for more than one woman than average Joe.  The intelligent woman gets it and is fine with it, but is wary of "her man" blowing it and making her out to be a fool.  She can't publicly reply with the truth so she is stuck having to pretend to be huliliated.
 
2013-09-19 11:07:56 AM  

Big_Fat_Liar: Genevieve Marie: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

I actually don't think that's true at all. I think they're an amazing match intellectually and they care about all of the same things. That's actually quite a lot to base a marriage on.

I also think that maybe, just maybe, they had an open marriage and that it wouldn't have been a big deal if alternative relationships didn't make the American people clutch their pearls in horror.

I with you partially.  I think they do essentially have an open marriage, however it was not supposed to appear an open marriage because that defeats the purpose of the marriage.  People in certain positions need to be married to be taken seriously.  Looking at China, most successful gay men have wives....of the opposite sex.  IMO, more intelligent people are more likely to behave outside ritualistic societal norms.  A Bill Clinton is more likely to have a desire for more than one woman than average Joe.  The intelligent woman gets it and is fine with it, but is wary of "her man" blowing it and making her out to be a fool.  She can't publicly reply with the truth so she is stuck having to pretend to be huliliated.


Exactly.

I've never bought into the idea that she's a wrong wife, or humiliated by his affairs at all, but I am sure she very much wishes that it had been kept quiet and discreet.
 
2013-09-19 11:09:07 AM  

Nemo's Brother: randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.

This. They know the other could destroy their lives and put them in jail (or fried)


Put them in jail for what? Is this another "Hillary had Vince Foster killed" things?
 
2013-09-19 11:11:36 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

I actually don't think that's true at all. I think they're an amazing match intellectually and they care about all of the same things. That's actually quite a lot to base a marriage on.

I also think that maybe, just maybe, they had an open marriage and that it wouldn't have been a big deal if alternative relationships didn't make the American people clutch their pearls in horror.


That may be what it started out as, but I'm really only describing the reason they are still together after 1996.
 
2013-09-19 11:12:45 AM  

I_C_Weener: way south: Bisexual Hillary Clinton was not the mental image I wanted stuck in my head...

You know how Oprah was either fat Oprah or thin Oprah?  Hillary is like that.  She has some pics out there that make her look very attractive.  And then some that make her look like some kind of cankle beast from the black lagoon.  Very strange to me.


Soft lighting, makeup, and photoshop do wonders.
 
2013-09-19 11:16:17 AM  
Tell that to Vince Foster, Chelsea's real father.
 
2013-09-19 11:16:37 AM  
Flowers:  I'm the one who should've been wronged party in the Monica Lewinski scandal!!!
 
2013-09-19 11:24:34 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Tell that to Vince Foster, Chelsea's real father.


But I was told than Janet Reno was Chelsea's real father.
 
2013-09-19 11:24:42 AM  

I_C_Weener: way south: Bisexual Hillary Clinton was not the mental image I wanted stuck in my head...

You know how Oprah was either fat Oprah or thin Oprah?  Hillary is like that.  She has some pics out there that make her look very attractive.  And then some that make her look like some kind of cankle beast from the black lagoon.  Very strange to me.



dl.dropboxusercontent.com


/To each his own, but I ain't even gonna try fapping to the theory this is possible.
 
2013-09-19 11:32:17 AM  

Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.


It's still real to them, dammit.

What's with people refusing to believe that the people they like politically may be amoral scumbags who lie and manipulate them for self-benefit?

Democrats refused to believe Anthony Weiner was obsessed with setting. They refused to believe that Clinton had an affair with Monica. Flowers before her. Post-hoc dismissals of it not mattering aside, of course
 
2013-09-19 11:43:38 AM  
Bill Clinton really was a sleaze...
 
2013-09-19 11:44:13 AM  
eil.com
 
2013-09-19 11:47:05 AM  
When this first broke I remember thinking how ugly J. Flowers was. Looking back on her now, with a full life of dissapointment under my belt, I'd pound that vag.
 
2013-09-19 11:58:05 AM  

dr_blasto: Nemo's Brother: randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.

This. They know the other could destroy their lives and put them in jail (or fried)

Put them in jail for what? Is this another "Hillary had Vince Foster killed" things?


You're forgetting how Bill and his brother set up a cocaine distribution ring in an apartment building and spent their weekends boinking underage girls between snorting lines.
 
2013-09-19 11:59:51 AM  

Big_Fat_Liar: A Bill Clinton is more likely to have a desire for more than one woman than average Joe. The intelligent woman gets it and is fine with it, but is wary of "her man" blowing it and making her out to be a fool.


And that's what I never got about Bill.

Granted, JFK set the bar as high as it could possibly be for presidential strange but dammit, if my president is going to get some on the side I want it to be somebody a) alluring and skilled enough where it would be understandable that he strayed and b) discreet enough to know what she's getting into, instead of Chatty Cathy from the intern pool.

Screwing around with the intern is such a cheeseball middle-management thing to do. Every small office and fraternity house has a Monica around - kinda cute, kinda thick (in whichever way you care to take that word's meatning), very needy, and able to suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. But the thing with girls like that is that any tryst will also unleash the batshiat within.

Nobody. Needs. That...most certainly not the president.

CSB: I happened to be in DC on a road trip with the girl I was seeing, the day the Lewinsky scandal broke. My girlfriend agreed that on just the one Metro car we were riding in that besides herself, there were four women far hotter than Monica on that car, and all four probably knew well enough to STFU if they found themselves screwing around with somebody powerful.
 
2013-09-19 12:03:17 PM  

Gulper Eel: Granted, JFK set the bar as high as it could possibly be for presidential strange but dammit, if my president is going to get some on the side I want it to be somebody a) alluring and skilled enough where it would be understandable that he strayed and b) discreet enough to know what she's getting into, instead of Chatty Cathy from the intern pool.


LBJ is legendary for farking his secretaries.  He once bragged about having sex with twice as many women as JFK.  Sure, they were all Bill Clinton level two baggers...but he banged more than JFK.
 
2013-09-19 12:03:21 PM  

Genevieve Marie: Big_Fat_Liar: Genevieve Marie: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

I actually don't think that's true at all. I think they're an amazing match intellectually and they care about all of the same things. That's actually quite a lot to base a marriage on.

I also think that maybe, just maybe, they had an open marriage and that it wouldn't have been a big deal if alternative relationships didn't make the American people clutch their pearls in horror.

I with you partially.  I think they do essentially have an open marriage, however it was not supposed to appear an open marriage because that defeats the purpose of the marriage.  People in certain positions need to be married to be taken seriously.  Looking at China, most successful gay men have wives....of the opposite sex.  IMO, more intelligent people are more likely to behave outside ritualistic societal norms.  A Bill Clinton is more likely to have a desire for more than one woman than average Joe.  The intelligent woman gets it and is fine with it, but is wary of "her man" blowing it and making her out to be a fool.  She can't publicly reply with the truth so she is stuck having to pretend to be huliliated.

Exactly.

I've never bought into the idea that she's a wrong wife, or humiliated by his affairs at all, but I am sure she very much wishes that it had been kept quiet and discreet.



Sounds like Trudy in an episode from the last scene of Mad Men. I could picture Hillary reacting the same way as she did when the scandals broke out.


////"Bill, I will destroy you!"
 
2013-09-19 12:06:16 PM  
Stay classy, Gennifer, you trashy, shameless attention whore.
 
2013-09-19 12:06:59 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I was singing in nightclubs, wearing very sexy outifts and gowns, a very independent liberated woman. I was the Madonna of my day - in Little Rock.

Are we absolutely certain this is not humor?


I'm certain it's not humor.  It may, however, be satire.
Thanks, Gennifer, for once again doing your best to humiliate your entire gender.
 
2013-09-19 12:14:49 PM  
I suspect we'll hear more of this shiat as repubs pay these parasites to come out of the woodwork.
 
2013-09-19 12:23:40 PM  
Up next for publicity?

i.ebayimg.com
 
2013-09-19 12:26:15 PM  
So, she's too old to get another powerful man to support her, so it's time to cash in with a book. It's just business.
 
2013-09-19 12:29:36 PM  
Well, someone didn't age well.
 
2013-09-19 12:37:30 PM  

dryknife: Up next for publicity?

[i.ebayimg.com image 300x300]


Amanda from Highlander was in Playboy?
 
2013-09-19 12:41:48 PM  
And I Would Have Gotten Away with It Too, If It Hadn't Been for You Meddling Kids and Your Dog

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-09-19 12:42:22 PM  

Crewmannumber6: dryknife: Up next for publicity?

[i.ebayimg.com image 300x300]

Amanda from Highlander was in Playboy?


Indeed.
 
2013-09-19 12:44:51 PM  

Crewmannumber6: dryknife: Up next for publicity?

[i.ebayimg.com image 300x300]

Amanda from Highlander was in Playboy?


And Slick Willy was in her.
 
2013-09-19 01:01:34 PM  
Wait, was there some mixup? She doesn't look fat in those pics.
 
2013-09-19 01:05:04 PM  

dryknife: Crewmannumber6: dryknife: Up next for publicity?

img.fark.net

Amanda from Highlander was in Playboy?

And Slick Willy was in her.


(Image reposted for effect)

Now, Elizabeth Gracen is a beautiful woman, no doubt, but she is one of the few women I have met for
whom pictures truly do not do her justice whatsover:

I was at a HIGHLANDER convention (which consisted mostly of middle aged women..... very strange...),
and she was one of the autographs that a friend of mine had asked me to collect for him, so I stood in
line (it wasn't that long, actually), and when my turn came and I went up to the table and looked into her
eyes......

Wow.

I felt my stomach flutter and my knees buckle just a little and if I had less self control (or was wearing
short pants) I might have embarassed myself publicly.  In person she is the embodiment of the
Raymond Chandler phrase "A blonde hot enough to make a bishop kick a hole in a stained glass window"
(though at the time she was a brunette, you get the idea).  And she was very charming and seemed quite
happy to meet the fans and chatted quite amiably.

So, say what you want about President Clinton's other paramours, he really was into a good thing with her.
 
2013-09-19 01:12:27 PM  
 
2013-09-19 01:13:37 PM  

Snapper Carr: Subjuctive tense mood



Grammar nazi'd myself.
 
2013-09-19 01:16:01 PM  

Snapper Carr: Snapper Carr: Subjuctive tense mood


Grammar nazi'd myself.


You seem tense.

Or are you just moody?
 
2013-09-19 01:18:36 PM  

Gulper Eel: Screwing around with the intern is such a cheeseball middle-management thing to do. Every small office and fraternity house has a Monica around - kinda cute, kinda thick (in whichever way you care to take that word's meatning), very needy, and able to suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. But the thing with girls like that is that any tryst will also unleash the batshiat within.


There are guys who are specifically turned on by that sort of thing.
 
2013-09-19 01:26:41 PM  

I_C_Weener: Gulper Eel: Granted, JFK set the bar as high as it could possibly be for presidential strange but dammit, if my president is going to get some on the side I want it to be somebody a) alluring and skilled enough where it would be understandable that he strayed and b) discreet enough to know what she's getting into, instead of Chatty Cathy from the intern pool.

LBJ is legendary for farking his secretaries.  He once bragged about having sex with twice as many women as JFK.  Sure, they were all Bill Clinton level two baggers...but he banged more than JFK.


Clinton and Johnson both strike me as "I've got ten minutes and and a boner, so I'm going to fark whatever is closest and willing" type guys rather than the "Put Marilyn on a plane, and get her a suite at the hotel I 'm giving a speach at this weekend" type guy that JFK was.

Gourmands, rather than a gourmet.
 
2013-09-19 01:27:35 PM  

way south: Bisexual Hillary Clinton was not the mental image I wanted stuck in my head...


Here's some White House bisexual eyebleach for you.

fandaily.info

/also had a marriage of convenience
//you dolt
 
2013-09-19 01:36:45 PM  

randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.


I bet you have a poster of Ken Starr in your bedroom.
 
2013-09-19 01:37:08 PM  
How was this not the headline?

'He said Hillary had eaten more p***y than he had.'
 
2013-09-19 01:42:57 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This reminds me, aren't the Obama kids about 12 or 13 now? Doesn't that make them old enough for middle-aged Republican men to start telling me how ugly they are?


They've been doing that all along.
 
2013-09-19 01:54:26 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: So, say what you want about President Clinton's other paramours, he really was into a good thing with her.


No argument here. People always talk about the dogs he boinked but there was at least a couple that were pretty fine.
 
2013-09-19 01:54:33 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I was at a HIGHLANDER convention (which consisted mostly of middle aged women..... very strange...),


I don't find it strange at all...a big part of Highlander's draw has always been women (middle aged and otherwise) going gaga over Adrian Paul.  Having Sean Connery in the first movie didn't hurt that demographic either.  That the series also told some (some) pretty cool stories helped, of course.
 
2013-09-19 02:03:40 PM  

dryknife: DjangoStonereaver: So, say what you want about President Clinton's other paramours, he really was into a good thing with her.

No argument here. People always talk about the dogs he boinked but there was at least a couple that were pretty fine.


Funny story: the last time I visited my parents it had been a long time since they'd seen me. My dad looked me over and said "boy, if you ever met Bill Clinton he would LOVE you!"

I'm pretty sure he meant it as a compliment...
 
2013-09-19 02:22:45 PM  
Is it too much to ask for the leader of the free world to 1) be discreete about extracurriculars and 2) boink hotties worth their status? I mean, you're the president dammit. No one should ever hear about your shiat, but if they do they should weep with jealousy while buying you a beer.
 
2013-09-19 02:40:41 PM  

toomuchwhargarbl: The capacity for self-delusion seems quite common among the discarded sex partners of the upper class. I'm not sure what it is about some women who want to believe that because he cheated on his wife with you, that he's interested in you as wife material, or that he won't cheat on you when a younger model drifts under his nose.


I'm sure it happens sometimes. People like to dream, especially when it comes to love in relationships
 
2013-09-19 02:43:54 PM  
Buttereverything
 
2013-09-19 02:45:35 PM  
I had forgotten how pretty she was...most of the pictures in the news were from long after the affair.

Say what you want about the sexual proclivities of Presidents.  That person has his (or her) finger on the button of nuclear war...Personally I don't want to end up in a farking 'scorched earth' scenario because someone's not getting enough.  By all means...if you're the President, go ahead!  Have a few free knob jobs.  (Or lip tickles, if it's a female President.)  GO A-FARKING-HEAD!  (No pun intended) 

Chances are, if you're sneaky and underhanded enough to get yourself elected president in the first place...it's probably not your first time 'straying' anyway...
 
2013-09-19 02:49:55 PM  

flondrix: DjangoStonereaver: I was at a HIGHLANDER convention (which consisted mostly of middle aged women..... very strange...),

I don't find it strange at all...a big part of Highlander's draw has always been women (middle aged and otherwise) going gaga over Adrian Paul.  Having Sean Connery in the first movie didn't hurt that demographic either.  That the series also told some (some) pretty cool stories helped, of course.


I agree with your assessment now, but at the time, I had no real idea (I was there almost totally to get the
autographs for my friend, as I was never into the show very much).  And as a life-long habitue of other
types of SF cons, including Creation cons (which put the accent on 'con' if you ask me), I really felt out of
place. This was in the late 1990s, before there was approximate gender parity in SF fandom, but even
moreso the fact that they were TOTALLY into meeting the stars and getting their autographs really put
off a weird vibe to me.  Almost stalkerish and toxic.

And GOD FORBID they cancelled a pre-arranged autograph session.....
 
2013-09-19 02:51:17 PM  

Mrbogey: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

It's still real to them, dammit.

What's with people refusing to believe that the people they like politically may be amoral scumbags who lie and manipulate them for self-benefit?

Democrats refused to believe Anthony Weiner was obsessed with setting. They refused to believe that Clinton had an affair with Monica. Flowers before her. Post-hoc dismissals of it not mattering aside, of course


Or it could be some people don't give a shait about a person's sex life.
 
2013-09-19 02:58:38 PM  

Genevieve Marie: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

I actually don't think that's true at all. I think they're an amazing match intellectually and they care about all of the same things. That's actually quite a lot to base a marriage on.

I also think that maybe, just maybe, they had an open marriage and that it wouldn't have been a big deal if alternative relationships didn't make the American people clutch their pearls in horror.


They're the right age for open marriages, being semi-hippies and all. I've been of the opinion that they have an open marriage from the time of the Lewisnki brouhaha.
 
2013-09-19 03:01:42 PM  

Mrbogey: Ricardo Klement: Bill and Hillary's marriage couldn't be more about convenience if you installed a Slurpee machine and a Slim-Jim rack in the bedroom.

It's still real to them, dammit.

What's with people refusing to believe that the people they like politically may be amoral scumbags who lie and manipulate them for self-benefit?

Democrats refused to believe Anthony Weiner was obsessed with setting. They refused to believe that Clinton had an affair with Monica. Flowers before her. Post-hoc dismissals of it not mattering aside, of course


No, we just don't care. But we're not The Morality Party, so we don't have to pretend that we do care.
 
2013-09-19 03:51:50 PM  
Wow, forgot how ridiculoussly beautiful  Elizabeth Gracen was/is.
Still remarkable at 52. Hers were perfect breasts.
 
2013-09-19 05:08:14 PM  
www.glamour.com

Would've been on that like the last chopper out of Saigon...
 
2013-09-19 05:31:41 PM  
I thought Clinton was more of an Arsenal guy.
 
2013-09-19 05:54:36 PM  
Looks like either she needs some attention or most likely her rent is due. Oh, and FWIW, you blew your credibility when you brought his wife's sexuality into play. Trust me even if she was bisexual it has nothing to do with the marriage unless SHE'S cheating.

/can't stand that woman.
 
2013-09-19 05:58:39 PM  

dr_blasto: Nemo's Brother: randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.

This. They know the other could destroy their lives and put them in jail (or fried)

Put them in jail for what? Is this another "Hillary had Vince Foster killed" things?


Yeah, but Hillary had one of her Amazonian lesbian lovers kill him by snu-snu, then shipped to Florida to have the gay prayed out of her.
 
2013-09-19 06:02:11 PM  

Ed Grubermann: They're the right age for open marriages, being semi-hippies and all. I've been of the opinion that they have an open marriage from the time of the Lewisnki brouhaha.


Unlike Bill, Hillary still has a political career, or at least the possibility of one.  There is no way she could avail herself of an open marriage and still get elected or appointed to anything, so any such "open marriage" would have to be completely one-sided.  I don't think that counts.
 
2013-09-19 06:36:26 PM  

texanb4: [www.glamour.com image 850x1264]

Would've been on that like the last chopper out of Saigon...


Back when she was a Republican.
 
2013-09-19 06:37:58 PM  
Chelsea? What, John Terry was sleeping with Clinton?
 
2013-09-19 09:17:36 PM  
No  Chelsea pics?  She's hotter than any of these folks put together.

(And no, I'm not talking about 1992 pics, you pervs!)
 
2013-09-19 10:18:42 PM  

Mrbogey: Post-hoc dismissals of it not mattering aside, of course


Fart_Machine: Or it could be some people don't give a shait about a person's sex life.


Ed Grubermann: No, we just don't care. But we're not The Morality Party, so we don't have to pretend that we do care.


It's easy to predict the response from a simplistic partisan mind. It's always "lies" until it no longer matters. Can you guys give a modicum of honesty? Is that possible?
 
2013-09-20 12:18:08 AM  

dr_blasto: Nemo's Brother: randomjsa: No, you see, Bill and Hillary will stay married for the rest of their natural lives no matter what happens.

So they cannot be compelled to testify against each other.

Chelsea has nothing to do with it.

This. They know the other could destroy their lives and put them in jail (or fried)

Put them in jail for what? Is this another "Hillary had Vince Foster killed" things?


That ol' talking point/conspiracy had whiskers on it when I was a pup...

Kangaroo_Ralph: Tell that to Vince Foster, Chelsea's real father.


You're my favorite...don't tell Angel, he's fiery.
 
2013-09-20 07:40:03 AM  

Gulper Eel: meatning


Freudian typo of the year?
 
2013-09-20 11:13:11 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Wow.

I felt my stomach flutter and my knees buckle just a little and if I had less self control (or was wearing
short pants) I might have embarassed myself publicly.


a few years ago I got to attend a Lisa Loeb concert.  Now, I live in Alabama, but I have been a Lisa Loeb fan since her single "Stay" hit.  I never really expected to see her in concert.  The show itself was amazing, it was just Lisa, her guitar, and she played and sang and it was wonderful.  After the show, she actually hung out in the theatre lobby to meet and greet fans and sign stuff.

Meeting her in person was pretty much exactly what you described.
 
2013-09-20 03:16:40 PM  

frepnog: Meeting her in person was pretty much exactly what you described.


Wait, Bubba tapped that too? I will have to re-evaluate my criticism of his tendency to chase fleshy barflies.
 
2013-09-20 03:36:05 PM  

Gulper Eel: frepnog: Meeting her in person was pretty much exactly what you described.

Wait, Bubba tapped that too? I will have to re-evaluate my criticism of his tendency to chase fleshy barflies.


lol wut
 
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