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(WFSB Connecticut)   How can we teach kids about slavery? I know, let's bring them in the woods on a field trip and pretend they are slaves and we are their white masters. Oh, and we'll also pretend we're Paula Deen too   (wfsb.com) divider line 120
    More: Dumbass, field trips, Human Rights Commission, Underground Railroad, Paula Deen, reenactments  
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2013-09-19 07:59:34 AM
Oh, they called them the N-word.   For a moment I thought they smeared them with mayonaise.
 
2013-09-19 08:16:05 AM
Why not pretend that they are their black masters, too? It's racist to only show white slave owners.
 
2013-09-19 08:44:57 AM
Did they take them to Candyland?
 
2013-09-19 08:46:18 AM
If your kids don't understand slavery then you don't make them do enough chores.
 
2013-09-19 08:47:03 AM
FTA: "Imagine sending your child on a class trip, then finding out she and her classmates were called the "n" word and chased through the woods. It was part of a slavery re-enactment that some parents said crossed the line."

I'm not entirely sure why, but this irritated me as much as the story itself.  Why the f*ck do I need some kind of associative attachment to a story for you to share it, idiot reporter?
 
2013-09-19 08:48:36 AM
Is that wrong? Because it seems that I may have to cancel the history lesson plan that I've been working on.

Which is fine, but what am I supposed to do with all of these smallpox-infested blankets now?
 
2013-09-19 08:48:41 AM
Please don't be in CT, please don't be in CT. *checks story* DAMN IT!
 
2013-09-19 08:49:50 AM
Well were they actually sold?  No? Then quit your biatching
 
2013-09-19 08:50:01 AM

kwame: FTA: "Imagine sending your child on a class trip, then finding out she and her classmates were called the "n" word and chased through the woods. It was part of a slavery re-enactment that some parents said crossed the line."

I'm not entirely sure why, but this irritated me as much as the story itself.  Why the f*ck do I need some kind of associative attachment to a story for you to share it, idiot reporter?


Just try to imagine, kwame.
 
2013-09-19 08:50:40 AM
So, they called the white kids nubians, they called the black kids nubians and the asians nubians.

It's a word people. Words only have the power we give them.
 
2013-09-19 08:51:02 AM
My kids both attended Nature's Classroom in 5th grade. There was stuff like "hike through the woods, identify different types of trees by their leaves, dissect the owl pellets to see what Woodsy had for dinner, build the strongest possible bridge with toothpicks and marshmallows" and so on, but none of that crazy-ass shiat in the article. I wonder if they got new management in the last couple years.
 
2013-09-19 08:52:00 AM
Ah calling someone the "n-word", the greatest crime against humanity anyone an perpetrate.
 
2013-09-19 08:52:36 AM

rnatalie: Oh, they called them the N-word.   For a moment I thought they smeared them with mayonaise.


Could have used the Miracle Whip on them.

/see, that's called a set -up
 
2013-09-19 08:52:37 AM
*can* perpetrate
 
2013-09-19 08:53:30 AM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-09-19 08:53:39 AM
Oh and Fark you Fark filter Nubians are from Egypt, Not centralized Africa where the slaves came from.
 
2013-09-19 08:54:22 AM
Paula Deen and slavery... sounds like my ultimate fetish...


Smoother me in butter and spank me girls!

Oh yeah... that's how you find my mayo.
 
2013-09-19 08:54:37 AM

puckrock2000: dissect the owl pellets to see what Woodsy had for dinner


I'd offer to let them dissect my pellets to see what I ate, except after Taco Bell last night it's coming out as a brown slurry.
 
2013-09-19 08:54:42 AM
I don't see the problem. They weren't teaching the kids how to treat slaves, how to chase them through woods. They were teaching the kids how terrible being a slave was/is. 

Now, if the class was 19 white kids and one black kid, and it was only the one black kid running while all the others were encouraged to chase and shout "kneegrow!!" then it might be a problem.
 
2013-09-19 08:55:41 AM

kwame: I'm not entirely sure why, but this irritated me as much as the story itself. Why the f*ck do I need some kind of associative attachment to a story for you to share it, idiot reporter?


Because this is how we manufacture discontent
 
2013-09-19 08:55:53 AM
Something tells me that their field trip to Auschwitz next month is going to end very badly.
 
2013-09-19 08:57:14 AM
Or... Paula Deen and slavery...

"50 spades of butter"
 
2013-09-19 09:00:32 AM

FuryOfFirestorm: Something tells me that their field trip to Auschwitz next month is going to end very badly.


Dammit, you beat me to it.
 
2013-09-19 09:01:28 AM
Remember back when chefs just made good food and that was enough?  When we didn't really care about their personal lives or political opinions, just what temperature and how long to cook that pork roast?  I understand that they've also benefitted greatly from being made personalities, and they should rightly suffer when that blows up in their faces.  On the other hand, I'll bet her fried chicken recipe is still delicious, but I'm sure there would be backlash if you admitted that when you were serving it.
 
2013-09-19 09:01:29 AM
Luckily the school is allied with the Trinity College and her Episcopalian roots. If it had been a Roman Catholic institution instead, they would have been playing Spanish Inquisition.
 
2013-09-19 09:01:30 AM
i660.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-19 09:04:53 AM
Sounds realistic. Good lesson.
Of course, a bunch of hand wringers will get their panties bunched up over this.
 
2013-09-19 09:05:22 AM
Luckily there was a classmate named Toby, so that took a lot of the pressure off of the rest of the class.
 
2013-09-19 09:06:05 AM
Why do people keep hating on Paula Deen?  Yes, she did say the n-word, but that was 30 years ago and it was said to someone who was robbing her.  The rest including claims of how she treated blacks working for her were just claims.  They were not proven.
 
2013-09-19 09:06:18 AM
What kind of idiot dreams up this kind of "learning experience"?
 
2013-09-19 09:06:33 AM
They should have sold the kids down the river....
 
2013-09-19 09:08:12 AM
Should be followed up with an indentured servitude field trip to cover another common American experience.
 
2013-09-19 09:08:12 AM

hasty ambush: [i660.photobucket.com image 501x401]


Actually slaves never worked directly on the pyramids. A slave would never touch anything that was destined for Pharaoh, especially his gateway to the afterlife.

Now they did help build the cities required for the millions of artisans that did work on the Pyramids.
 
2013-09-19 09:08:23 AM
"She said she can't believe the school has been taking part in the trip for years and never saw a problem with it."

Apparently, she is the only parent of kids who have been taking part in the trip for years who sees a problem with it either. So the solution is clear: Despite the fact that they may have a successful program in place to teach kids to empathize in a raw way, her outrage trumps and the program must be discontinued.
 
2013-09-19 09:09:39 AM
Oh, and we'll also pretend we're Paula Deen too

They slathered the children in butter?
 
2013-09-19 09:10:58 AM

hasty ambush: [i660.photobucket.com image 501x401]


The Persepolis was built without slavery.
 
2013-09-19 09:11:28 AM

ThisIsntMe: It's a word people. Words only have the power we give them.


Fus-Ro-DAH!
 
2013-09-19 09:12:35 AM
A few months back there was a thread on reddit about which video on Youtube was the funniest.

The top rated comment referred to this video, in which one seriously funny black dude talks about the most racist school field trip ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PToqVW4n86U">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=PToqVW4n86U

Apparently the guy tried to have the video taken down because he has aspirations to hold a political office some time in the future. I don't know why. I'd vote for the guy.because of this video.
 
2013-09-19 09:12:45 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do people keep hating on Paula Deen?


Because it's fun.  And I hated on Paula Deen long before her downfall.  I'm completely appalled that she's so closely associated with my hometown.
 
2013-09-19 09:13:40 AM
Why would they go to all that trouble when they could just read some books or watch a video?

Or they could just Ask a Slave.
(Oh, yes. It's comedy with a painfully, truthy edge)

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-09-19 09:14:26 AM

kwame: FTA: "Imagine sending your child on a class trip, then finding out she and her classmates were called the "n" word and chased through the woods. It was part of a slavery re-enactment that some parents said crossed the line."

I'm not entirely sure why, but this irritated me as much as the story itself.  Why the f*ck do I need some kind of associative attachment to a story for you to share it, idiot reporter?


Whenever an article or ad uses the word imagine you can be guaranteed it's full of crap.
 
2013-09-19 09:14:50 AM

DrPainMD: Why not pretend that they are their black masters, too? It's racist to only show white slave owners.




I sure there "lesson plan"skipped over that part as well as the fact that is was there fellow black Africans that sold them into slavery to the evil white guys. Probably also forgot to include the part about there being a lot of white slaves also.

But you know home schooling or vouchers are a bad ideas. Government sponsored education should be your only option
 
2013-09-19 09:15:52 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do people keep hating on Paula Deen?  Yes, she did say the n-word, but that was 30 years ago and it was said to someone who was robbing her.  The rest including claims of how she treated blacks working for her were just claims.  They were not proven.


Y'know... I can honestly say I've never called anyone the "n word"™.

Nor do I approve of the n word™; however, can't find myself hating Deen without knowing her.

Is she a racist or just said something out of anger?

I don't know... looks like there is definately racism in her circle of associates... so likely from her too.

Unless she is a gun owner ;) I will give her the benefit of the doubt until I see more proof.


/won't be eating her restaurant either way.
 
2013-09-19 09:20:01 AM

Public Savant: Fus-Ro-DAH


Meh. I'll just cast a ward.
 
2013-09-19 09:22:08 AM

BitwiseShift: Luckily the school is allied with the Trinity College and her Episcopalian roots. If it had been a Roman Catholic institution instead, they would have been playing Spanish Inquisition.


You sure? I really wouldn't expect that.
 
2013-09-19 09:22:46 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do people keep hating on Paula Deen?

Because it's fun.  And I hated on Paula Deen long before her downfall.  I'm completely appalled that she's so closely associated with my hometown.


And everything she cooks can cause a diabetic coma or congestive heart failure.  She's taught thousands of women how to kill their husbands with food by the time they're 50.
 
2013-09-19 09:24:07 AM

Yes please: Remember back when chefs just made good food and that was enough?  When we didn't really care about their personal lives or political opinions, just what temperature and how long to cook that pork roast?  I understand that they've also benefitted greatly from being made personalities, and they should rightly suffer when that blows up in their faces.  On the other hand, I'll bet her fried chicken recipe is still delicious, but I'm sure there would be backlash if you admitted that when you were serving it.


Vincent Price ran that house on Haunted Hill AND was a murderous aristocrat, when he wasn't telling how to cook exotic delights.
 
2013-09-19 09:27:43 AM
I am not one of those people who thinks Huck Finn should be banned from the classroom. It is true that many people are uncomfortable with the use of the N-word throughout the book, and I think that it's good that they are. But precisely because it is uncomfortable, there are valuable lessons to be learned. There needs to be some safe and controlled experience, both in experiencing the discomfort in saying it and in hearing it for oneself, and in watching others do these things, and in watching them experience that same discomfort. A book like Huck Finn, where the historical context of the word and how it has changed since then can be discussed, provides an ideal opportunity for this.

TFA, on the other hand, describes pretty much the worst possible way to go about this sort of thing. Due thought doesn't seem to have been given to safety or control. It didn't engage the students in dialogue. It certainly doesn't seem to have approached an appropriate level of solemnity.
 
2013-09-19 09:37:08 AM

Millennium: BitwiseShift: Luckily the school is allied with the Trinity College and her Episcopalian roots. If it had been a Roman Catholic institution instead, they would have been playing Spanish Inquisition.

You sure? I really wouldn't expect that.


Nobody does, really. It's their one invaluable weapon.
 
2013-09-19 09:39:59 AM
I recommend The Roman Mystery Series by Caroline Lawrence for introducing the idea of slavery to the YA crowd.  The American South didn't invent slavery. It had been around a long time.

/drtfa
 
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