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(Pro Football Mock)   Cleveland Browns acquire first round pick in 2014 NFL draft to address their glaring need at RB   (profootballmock.com) divider line 66
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2013-09-19 12:01:13 PM

llortcM_yllort: js34603: Lombardi is a smart guy, maybe they can make good use of their picks for a change

What?  Lombardi is the man responsible for most of the picks on this list:



Either he ran the Raiders into the ground, or he was content to be the puppet of a senile old man who ran the Raiders into the ground.  He's not smart.


Pretty sure he didn't have final say on picks under the Crypt Keeper. Russell for sure I have heard Lombardi say he did not want to draft.

Also, are you saying they were wrong for taking McFadden instead of Dorsey? Or even Huff instead of Whitener? Yeah in hindsight it's all obvious, at the time those picks were completely defensible.
 
2013-09-19 12:03:29 PM

llortcM_yllort: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: babysealclubber: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: I don't know which is more bizarre; that this is blundering business as usual for the Browns or that this might be a good move, (or, at least, the best move available,) by the Browns.  The idea of the Browns making a 'good' move shakes my confidence in reality.

As for 'betraying' season-ticket holder fans, well, they bought season tickets for the Browns.  It's not like they thought they were getting Broncos or Seahawk tickets.  I don't know whether to feel sorry for them for being Browns fans or because their best hope now is to lose the next 14 games or because 7 of those games are home games and they might slip up and go to some of them.  It's a 'can't sleep, clown will eat me vs. must sleep or go crazy' situation.

I think the Browns at this point just like drafting high profile players to sell tickets for a couple of years until they manage to ruin the guy and don't give a shiat about actually winning.

The problem with 'Clownshoes for Clowney' is that he has foot problems already.  The eventual 'Corrective Clownshoes for Clowney' would be so Cleveland that it hurts.

If the Browns are smart (and they're not judging by the past 14 years), they would trade the pick for an assload of other picks to get some depth.  The one strength the Browns have is defensive line and adding another one won't be beneficial.


right, if you're not winning then you should be building a winning team

doubled99: I swear to god I can't take it anymore. All my life with this farking team. Nothing but heartbreak, misery, and failure failure failure.
I loved them unconditionally, but they do not love me back. I have nothing left to give...


don't get too crazy, Trent Richardson was never Walter Peyton or Adrian Peterson... investing even more into Weeden and TRich is more sunk-cost fallacy than building a good team, better to get your 1st round pick back that you traded to get a RB in the first place, get your QB you can build a future on and then get a good RB in the 3rd round or later
 
2013-09-19 12:11:36 PM

babysealclubber: The best part about this is is if it did occur, I know some Cleveland fans who are friends of mine who would delude themselves into thinking this is the move that will vault them to a playoff run.


Pretty much all the Browns fans I know have disowned the team as of yesterday...
 
2013-09-19 12:14:23 PM

mjones73: babysealclubber: The best part about this is is if it did occur, I know some Cleveland fans who are friends of mine who would delude themselves into thinking this is the move that will vault them to a playoff run.

Pretty much all the Browns fans I know have disowned the team as of yesterday...


Check the thread about this yesterday. You'll meet some Browns fans rationalizing the shiat out of this.

/oddly enough the same ones who defended the Richardson and Weeden picks to begin with
 
2013-09-19 12:31:06 PM
No one is disowning the Browns if they've come this far.  Being a Browns fan is a life sentence.
 
2013-09-19 12:47:36 PM
Here's a question for the Cleveland fans: What about Chris Oingoboingo? He filled in for Peyton Hillis a couple of years
ago and had a couple of good games. Then when Hillis came back that was the end of him in 2011, and last year they went and got Richardson. Will he get another shot or is he just not that good?
 
2013-09-19 01:11:10 PM

js34603: llortcM_yllort: js34603: Lombardi is a smart guy, maybe they can make good use of their picks for a change

What?  Lombardi is the man responsible for most of the picks on this list:

Either he ran the Raiders into the ground, or he was content to be the puppet of a senile old man who ran the Raiders into the ground.  He's not smart.

Pretty sure he didn't have final say on picks under the Crypt Keeper. Russell for sure I have heard Lombardi say he did not want to draft.

Also, are you saying they were wrong for taking McFadden instead of Dorsey? Or even Huff instead of Whitener? Yeah in hindsight it's all obvious, at the time those picks were completely defensible.


Actually, he left after 2007, so JaMarcus would've been his last pick.  So, I guess that was a little unfair on my part to include those, but 4 out of 7 is still most.

Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but he still pulled the trigger on a lot of dumb decisions.  If drafting shiatty player after shiatty player is an established practice with someone, especially when you couple it with other bad roster moves, you have to think that the GM is the problem.  After all, those four picks have one thing in common and that is that they were drafted by Lombardi.  This of course, assumes Lombardi had control.  If he didn't, like you imply, then he was just acting as Al's puppet.  This doesn't exactly inspire confidence either.
 
2013-09-19 01:13:46 PM

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babysealclubber: The best part about this is is if it did occur, I know some Cleveland fans who are friends of mine who would delude themselves into thinking this is the move that will vault them to a playoff run.

I got to trolling a Cleveland fan last night. It's easy because all you need to do is state things that Cleveland has done.
I'm a Bengals fan & even after making the playoffs 2 years in a row I still know I root for a shiat franchise. Cleveland fans are the dumbest fan base on earth.


At least now those of us in Columbus have a chance of seeing a Cincinnati game on TV instead of the Browns games.
 
2013-09-19 02:05:04 PM

Autarky: hope vikes lose this sunday and it causes the entire coaching staff to get fired

/frazier doesn't know what he's doing


Both coaching staffs should be fired if the Browns beat the Vikings.
 
2013-09-19 02:25:14 PM

llortcM_yllort: js34603: Lombardi is a smart guy, maybe they can make good use of their picks for a change

What?  Lombardi is the man responsible for most of the picks on this list:

[i.imgur.com image 635x354]

Either he ran the Raiders into the ground, or he was content to be the puppet of a senile old man who ran the Raiders into the ground.  He's not smart.


I'd hardly call that graphic fair, even speaking as a Raiders fan.  Gallery was the can't miss prospect of that draft.  Huff was the smarter pick than Whitner.  Russell was a titanic bust, but the team was desperate for a QB and what good is Calvin Johnson with Andrew Walter fumbling throwing the ball?  McFadden is a fantastic player, much better than Dorsey, and is the reason they wouldn't consider Spiller two years later.  Washington and DHB were typical Al "draft speed!" picks, however.  It's easy to say they were all bad picks in hindsight.
 
2013-09-19 02:25:58 PM

varmitydog: Here's a question for the Cleveland fans: What about Chris Oingoboingo? He filled in for Peyton Hillis a couple of years
ago and had a couple of good games. Then when Hillis came back that was the end of him in 2011, and last year they went and got Richardson. Will he get another shot or is he just not that good?


Bobby SpandauBallet tore his knee up in the preseason, so that's why they are going with Oingoboingo.
 
2013-09-19 03:26:18 PM

js34603: The best part about this is how dumb it was for both teams.

Colts: Irsay obviously wants to be the next Jerry Jones, he's desperate for attention. Did you see his tweets about this? Awful damn excited about trading a mid first round pick for a power runner with injury issues. Richardson doesn't make them noticeably better than the Texans, so they basically traded a first round pick for a RB that...puts them in position to fight for a Wildcard. Which is where they were before giving up a pick. But hey "SHOCK and AWE" right Irsay? Next week: Irsay demands on Twitter the Colts block for Trent Richardson.

Browns: I mean it's the Browns do I really need to say more? No, but I will anyway. First, say this out loud "Let's trade the #3 overall pick for a mid first round pick 2 years from now"...does that even sound like it makes sense? And that's not even counting the picks they traded to get the third pick. Just a stupid move from a pure value standpoint.

Second, you're basically forfeiting the season after two weeks. Richardson, for all that he was worth (not much really) was STILL their best offensive skill player. And you dump him two games in, two games you honestly could have won. Now they've dumped their best offensive skill player, and they're starting their 3rd freaking string QB. Is LeBron in the draft this year? Is it really not a little sad to be tanking already? Even if the fans can rationalize it (and oh get ready for the rationalizations...) try asking the veterans in the lockerroom how they feel about trading their best offensive player and starting a 3rd string QB.

The Browns weren't great with Richardson. But they play in the worst division in the NFL. They play the Bills and Jets this year. 8 wins was out of the question for them? They didn't think it was possible, already, they could win 8 games? Don't let people who don't know shiat about the Browns convince you they were a lost cause already. They've got a potentially top 10 NFL defense. They could have made a run at it with a power offense (hell put Campbell in and you've got a proven game manager) and that D, especially in that division.

Or you know this. Tank the season. After two games.

/Lombardi is a smart guy, maybe they can make good use of their picks for a change
//but man jumping ship after two games is just mind boggling in today's NFL


The injury issues thing is nonsense. He played 15 games last year, gaine 1300 all purpose yards and 13 touchdowns...all with broken ribs.

Any team in the NFL would take that production from their back. Especial considering that if Cleveland had a passing game that defenses had to respect, he'd have had way more rushing yards. Instead, their crap passing game resulted in defenses stacking the box against him.
 
2013-09-19 04:40:48 PM

Droog8912: llortcM_yllort: js34603: Lombardi is a smart guy, maybe they can make good use of their picks for a change

What?  Lombardi is the man responsible for most of the picks on this list:

[i.imgur.com image 635x354]

Either he ran the Raiders into the ground, or he was content to be the puppet of a senile old man who ran the Raiders into the ground.  He's not smart.

I'd hardly call that graphic fair, even speaking as a Raiders fan.  Gallery was the can't miss prospect of that draft.  Huff was the smarter pick than Whitner.  Russell was a titanic bust, but the team was desperate for a QB and what good is Calvin Johnson with Andrew Walter fumbling throwing the ball?  McFadden is a fantastic player, much better than Dorsey, and is the reason they wouldn't consider Spiller two years later.  Washington and DHB were typical Al "draft speed!" picks, however.  It's easy to say they were all bad picks in hindsight.


If you get paid to predict the future and you are wrong, you can't use "hindsight is 20/20" as an excuse.  At some point, failure after failure implies you're not very good at your job.
 
2013-09-19 05:12:48 PM

llortcM_yllort: If you get paid to predict the future and you are wrong, you can't use "hindsight is 20/20" as an excuse. At some point, failure after failure implies you're not very good at your job.


FYI: the Raiders were ran by Al Davis into the ground.  Players could be recommended by members of the organization, but Al picked the players.

3/7 were bad picks, reaches (DHB, Huff, Washington).  Two were considered great picks (McFadden and Gallery) that didn't work out to be all-pros, but good players.  Two were considered to be good value at the spot but completely failed (Russell, McClain).  The game passed Al by and he was more wrong than right, but 4/7 of those were smart choices.  Sometimes bad performance is just bad luck.

I'd put it at 50% bad decisions, 25% bad luck, 25% success which I agree isn't very good, and is why the Raiders stunk under Al for the past decade.  All I'm saying is that graphic doesn't do justice to the Raiders selections.
 
2013-09-19 06:59:29 PM

babysealclubber: The best part about this is is if it did occur, I know some Cleveland fans who are friends of mine who would delude themselves into thinking this is the move that will vault them to a playoff run.


Actually, that's exactly what happened the last time the Browns did something like this.  They went 10-5 the rest of the year.

/And remember when Browns fans howled when Belichick got rid of Bernie?
//They made the playoffs the next year. Last time they won a playoff game (over the Patriots, coincidentally.)
 
2013-09-20 06:08:03 PM
Meanwhile, the Tribe, a half game out of the Wild Card are drawing 9000 fans a game.
 
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