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2013-09-19 08:03:54 AM
MSNBC are the noob tubers of news.
 
2013-09-19 09:19:06 AM
shiat, I don't know why it took so long to catch him.  Just tell all the blue guys to run up and tackle the red guy.  Done.
 
2013-09-19 09:36:51 AM
As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.
 
2013-09-19 09:37:17 AM

serial_crusher: shiat, I don't know why it took so long to catch him.  Just tell all the blue guys to run up and tackle the red guy.  Done.


Remember Blue=Cowardly Liberals. Of course, since Red=True American Patriots, that means all Conservatives are traitors or something...
 
2013-09-19 09:41:15 AM
They're just as bad as Fox News, just at the other end of the spectrum.
 
2013-09-19 09:46:22 AM
I'm surprised MSNBC didn't have the shooter depicted as a fat white guy wearing a klan outfit with Mitt Romney stickers all over the gun.
 
2013-09-19 10:03:24 AM

Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.


It's a combination of the internet and the full time news networks. It's created an atmosphere of "You don't have to be right, just as long as you're FIRST!", so what happens is some poor graphics guy slaps this together with a model the 3D software provided, and even if he tries to say that he can fix it in 15 minutes, they won't wait, and decide to run with it.
 
2013-09-19 10:07:46 AM
I weep for American journalism. Any semblence to the basic rules of news reporting are gone like a fart in the wind. Facts and soild sources have been replaced by conjecture and outright falsehoods... reported as fact. And Stewart was 100% on the money- saying that what you're reporting may be completely wrong does not in any way absolve you from doing it.

Fark, Zucker went on TV and basically told us that's it's CNN's farking BUISNESS PLAN!!!

Like freak7 stated above: CNN is FOX News, just at the other end of the shiat spectrum.
 
2013-09-19 10:08:59 AM
"business" dammit.
 
2013-09-19 10:39:30 AM

Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.


Lying like that should be punished by hanging.  The next batch of reporters will be honest.
 
2013-09-19 10:42:38 AM
LOL, subby here... Didn't even realize that I'd put in a pun with the whole "off base" thing. Dammit, I could have worked more with that one if I'd have caught it, but it was late and I was on my phone. Oh well, I got 2 greens in a day at least. Before that, I've never even gotten 2 in a week, possibly a month.
 
2013-09-19 10:50:26 AM

Mikey1969: LOL, subby here... Didn't even realize that I'd put in a pun with the whole "off base" thing. Dammit, I could have worked more with that one if I'd have caught it, but it was late and I was on my phone. Oh well, I got 2 greens in a day at least. Before that, I've never even gotten 2 in a week, possibly a month.


fc05.deviantart.net
 
2013-09-19 11:29:47 AM

Mikey1969: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.

It's a combination of the internet and the full time news networks. It's created an atmosphere of "You don't have to be right, just as long as you're FIRST!", so what happens is some poor graphics guy slaps this together with a model the 3D software provided, and even if he tries to say that he can fix it in 15 minutes, they won't wait, and decide to run with it.


The bonus to the viewer of sensationalized live coverage is that we all have a chance of being incorrectly named as the killer, and recovering money in a libel suit!
 
2013-09-19 11:38:49 AM

another cultural observer: Mikey1969: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.

It's a combination of the internet and the full time news networks. It's created an atmosphere of "You don't have to be right, just as long as you're FIRST!", so what happens is some poor graphics guy slaps this together with a model the 3D software provided, and even if he tries to say that he can fix it in 15 minutes, they won't wait, and decide to run with it.

The bonus to the viewer of sensationalized live coverage is that we all have a chance of being incorrectly named as the killer, and recovering money in a libel suit!


The power of positive thinking, I like it!!
 
2013-09-19 11:45:28 AM

Mikey1969: another cultural observer: Mikey1969: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.

It's a combination of the internet and the full time news networks. It's created an atmosphere of "You don't have to be right, just as long as you're FIRST!", so what happens is some poor graphics guy slaps this together with a model the 3D software provided, and even if he tries to say that he can fix it in 15 minutes, they won't wait, and decide to run with it.

The bonus to the viewer of sensationalized live coverage is that we all have a chance of being incorrectly named as the killer, and recovering money in a libel suit!

The power of positive thinking, I like it!!


As a practical matter, you'll get more money from the suit if you hire a friend/relative to "confront" you and beat the shiat out of you while the inaccurate news is still floating around.  If wife somehow quickly for divorce - a bonus!
 
2013-09-19 12:22:53 PM
My only surprise is that they didn't have him wearing a white sheet and a Reagan mask.
 
2013-09-19 12:56:30 PM
What a grenade launcher may look like
i111.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-19 02:02:14 PM
About as bad as the story a few years ago where they called an old single-shot, break down shotgun an assault rifle.
Had a local news story call a P25 Auto (those little hand guns) a 25 gauge shotgun that fired 22 shots in their first story on a dog attack... then once they were jumped for "less than being knowledgeable" they had a corrected story the next day (with the original story deleted).

/like to have a nice big ol` shotgun that would fire 22 shots... lol Be about as good as the one Elmer Fudd had that almost never needed reloading
 
2013-09-19 02:09:01 PM

TheMega: About as bad as the story a few years ago where they called an old single-shot, break down shotgun an assault rifle.
Had a local news story call a P25 Auto (those little hand guns) a 25 gauge shotgun that fired 22 shots in their first story on a dog attack... then once they were jumped for "less than being knowledgeable" they had a corrected story the next day (with the original story deleted).

/like to have a nice big ol` shotgun that would fire 22 shots... lol Be about as good as the one Elmer Fudd had that almost never needed reloading


Hell, I just wish they'd let us load more than 3 shells for geese/ducks/doves.
 
2013-09-19 02:18:41 PM
I thought it was interesting that the networks pretty consistently noted that the number of gunshots meant that the suspect was probably using a semi-automatic weapon of some kind.  I thought "wow, you don't say."

They reported this as if it were a big deal that he didn't use a 17th century flintlock pistol and a whole bunch of Brown Bess muskets in his backpack.  Perhaps they were thinking he may have wheeled a horse-drawn cannon up to the gate or something.
 
2013-09-19 02:47:28 PM
must i do everything?
hhshootingsports.com
 
2013-09-19 03:29:43 PM
Seriously?

You could also argue that they were totally wrong because he wasn't bright red from head to toe.

It was an animation. It had a gun in it. Who cares what the animated gun looked like? It was never declared to be an AR-15 with a grenade-launcher attachment.

I guess they could have just had him holding a black stick shaped like a gun. Or the word "GUN" in the shape of a gun in his hand.

Outrage over nothing.
 
2013-09-19 03:53:56 PM
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-19 04:59:43 PM

lostcat: Or the word "GUN" in the shape of a gun in his hand.


I think I saw that episode -  that's the day Word World lost its contract with Nick Jr.
 
2013-09-19 05:11:57 PM

freak7: They're just as bad as Fox News, just at the other end of the spectrum.


unless they are reading das kapital off a teleprompter every night they are not at the other end of the spectrum.
 
2013-09-19 05:50:54 PM

Mikey1969: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.

It's a combination of the internet and the full time news networks. It's created an atmosphere of "You don't have to be right, just as long as you're FIRST!", so what happens is some poor graphics guy slaps this together with a model the 3D software provided, and even if he tries to say that he can fix it in 15 minutes, they won't wait, and decide to run with it.


Blaming the internet is the excuse utilized by major publications.  Unfortunately, they're the worst offenders, not the internet.  During the Boston manhunt, they were actively listing names, which were then picked up by social media circles.  They then removed all traces of those names before the Morning News crowds arrived, and blamed Twitter for 'reporting the wrong names'.

Trainwreck.
 
2013-09-19 06:06:22 PM
Has anyone considered that this whole event is just viral marketing for Grand Theft Auto?  The timing is just too convenient.
 
2013-09-19 06:44:38 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Mikey1969: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned. The model of crisis news is to have long term live coverage. It doesn't actually take very much time to report on accurate facts, and misinformation holds people's attention longer than accurate reporting, because misinformation is so easily used to sensationalize the event.

It's a combination of the internet and the full time news networks. It's created an atmosphere of "You don't have to be right, just as long as you're FIRST!", so what happens is some poor graphics guy slaps this together with a model the 3D software provided, and even if he tries to say that he can fix it in 15 minutes, they won't wait, and decide to run with it.

Blaming the internet is the excuse utilized by major publications.  Unfortunately, they're the worst offenders, not the internet.  During the Boston manhunt, they were actively listing names, which were then picked up by social media circles.  They then removed all traces of those names before the Morning News crowds arrived, and blamed Twitter for 'reporting the wrong names'.

Trainwreck.


The news outlets put out the completely wrong information and it spreads on the Internet like a grass fire in August. The problem isn't the Internet, it's the people who don't fact check before they open their mouths.
 
2013-09-19 06:57:06 PM

skylabdown: I'm surprised MSNBC didn't have the shooter depicted as a fat white guy wearing a klan outfit with Mitt Romney stickers all over the gun.


I used to really enjoy MSNBC's coverage, back during the dark days of the Bush administration post-9/11. It seemed like they were the only voice of sanity in a media environment that had become rabidly corporatist and pro-right wing (with the exception of the Daily Show, of course, but this was before I thought of Jon Stewart as being a journalist). Then somewhere around the time Keith Olbermann was fired, the network which had showed a mild liberal slant (aside from Joe Scarborough's token conservative soapbox) suddenly took a hard left and ended up in crazytown. They're doing the exact same crap as Fox, showing editorial content masquerading as hard news, and hiring any random leftist political hack to be a commentator.

It's kind of sad when the most unbiased news sources you can get in this country are al-Jazeera and two shows on Comedy Central.
 
2013-09-19 10:07:00 PM
CNN showed him as using an "AR-15 Shotgun".

Dumbasses.
 
2013-09-19 10:21:26 PM

vonster: CNN showed him as using an "AR-15 Shotgun".

Dumbasses.


Not to defend CNN here, but they do exist. They're not that expensive, either. I kinda want one.

www.guns.com
 
2013-09-20 04:29:10 AM
I guarantee 80% of the people who watched the always on 'news' about this tragedy still think he had an 'assault rifle' with an obviously way too big 30 round 'clip'.

This is why we need to limit magazine size to 15 rounds.  Because that would do.. something...
 
2013-09-20 07:08:46 AM

Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned.


And as I said in that thread Stewart is an idiot.  Apparently Stewart is advocating that live news not report anything until after a trial and conviction.

Also, I head no mention of a grenade launcher in that thread.

Subby is trolling worse than Jon Stewart.
 
2013-09-20 08:13:16 AM

gfid: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned.

And as I said in that thread Stewart is an idiot.  Apparently Stewart is advocating that live news not report anything until after a trial and conviction.

Also, I head no mention of a grenade launcher in that thread.

Subby is trolling worse than Jon Stewart.


Do jackasses eat strawmen?
 
2013-09-20 08:22:58 AM

gfid: Massa Damnata: As Stewart said the other night, the misinformation isn't a bug in the system its planned.

And as I said in that thread Stewart is an idiot.  Apparently Stewart is advocating that live news not report anything until after a trial and conviction.

Also, I head no mention of a grenade launcher in that thread.

Subby is trolling worse than Jon Stewart.


The animation the MSNBC clip used showed a guy with what appears to be an M203 (which I had the privilege to lug about a bit in '90-'91) which is essentially a 40 mm grenade launcher glued underneath an M-16.

Think Tony Montana at the end of Scarface.
 
2013-09-20 09:58:06 AM

Mikey1969

Remember Blue=Cowardly Liberals.
Well, cowardly at least.
www.upl.co
 
2013-09-20 10:46:42 AM
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2013-09-20 11:51:07 AM
gfid:

Also, I head no mention of a grenade launcher in that thread.


IT'S THE PICTURE.  LOOK AT THE PICTURE
 
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