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(Business Insider)   Could everyone please stop downloading iOS7 until I'm done? 'Kay. Thanks   (businessinsider.com) divider line 46
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2013-09-18 03:13:10 PM  
I'm going to wait a couple of weeks. Version 7.01 will fix the bugs people are going to find.
 
2013-09-18 03:45:30 PM  
so far, so good. a little android-y, but pretty cool.
 
2013-09-18 04:29:09 PM  
Got it on our iPad2 without issue around noon today.. Trying to update my iP4 now, and it downloaded fine, but I guess the pre-install phase validates some checksum with Apple before proceeding, and it can't connect right now.

I'll wait a while, try again..

So far the iPad seems to be happy.  The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!
 
2013-09-18 04:37:06 PM  
iOS updates; the real iPhone killer.
 
2013-09-18 04:37:32 PM  

bingethinker: I'm going to wait a couple of weeks. Version 7.01 will fix the bugs people are going to find.


Yea, that was what I was thinking as well.
 
2013-09-18 04:48:37 PM  

minoridiot: bingethinker: I'm going to wait a couple of weeks. Version 7.01 will fix the bugs people are going to find.

Yea, that was what I was thinking as well.


Same here.  I usually at least wait a week or so just to make sure there aren't instances of it bricking devices or causing other bizarre usability errors before I make the leap.
 
2013-09-18 04:51:12 PM  

bingethinker: I'm going to wait a couple of weeks. Version 7.01 will fix the bugs people are going to find.


Been using it for a couple of months now.  The OS itself is solid.  I suspect the problems you will run into are going to be the odd glitch in third party apps (evernote copy and paste didn't work until everynote updated yesterday)

/real time adoption of IOS7 here
 
2013-09-18 04:55:36 PM  

markie_farkie: The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!


what's the 3d trick? i've got moving bubbles on mine, but it doesn't seem 3d....
 
2013-09-18 04:57:48 PM  
whoops. never mind. it's in the "still" wallpaper.
 
2013-09-18 05:08:28 PM  
Took forever to update the iPhone 4S.  The iPad download took way less time.

Safari is way faster and everything seems to be snappier overall.
 
2013-09-18 05:10:45 PM  
Did they fix the goddamn typing system?  God, that thing is poorly designed.
 
2013-09-18 05:10:53 PM  

FlashHarry: whoops. never mind. it's in the "still" wallpaper.


It's less perceptibly so using still wallpapers (wife has a cat pic for her iPad) than with the dynamic wallpapers, but there's still some motion there when you tilt the device, giving the appearance that the icons are several inches above the wallpaper.

The dynamic wallpaper responds more intensely to device tilting, almost like the background is a liquid or something.

It's subtle but not gimmicky..
 
2013-09-18 05:11:16 PM  
I just downloaded PinkSlip2.0 on my blackberry!
 
2013-09-18 05:19:20 PM  

Hollie Maea: Did they fix the goddamn typing system?  God, that thing is poorly designed.


Yes, iOS7 adds a new physical keyboard.
 
2013-09-18 05:20:53 PM  
The real question is why this is still a problem for anyone in 2013. There are multicast IP protocols for exactly this sort of thing, and it should be enough to have a single server at Apple sending out one repeating stream of packets which would be forwarded to all interested subscribers. It's stupid to have millions of independent TCP streams all grabbing the same data in parallel.
 
2013-09-18 05:26:44 PM  

Shazam999: Hollie Maea: Did they fix the goddamn typing system?  God, that thing is poorly designed.

Yes, iOS7 adds a new physical keyboard.


It's easy enough to make a virtual keyboard that works fine.  But Apple has so far chosen not to do so.

For example: On my iPad, the keyboard has spaces between the keys.  If your finger hits, say, the space between "T" and "Y", instead of noting that you tried to hit one of those two keys, the software just acts as though you didn't hit anything at all in that portion of the screen.  So then the legendary "autocorrect" as it tries to figure out what you were trying to type completely disregards that "keystroke" and tries to fit it to words that don't contain any letters from that part of the keyboard.

The only reasons you would possibly choose to implement the software that way would be sadism or extreme ineptitude. I get the lack of a Swype like input system--they are butthurt that they didn't think of it, and that's how Apple rolls.  But their overall input system seems to be specifically designed to work as poorly as possible.
 
2013-09-18 05:33:35 PM  

Ivo Shandor: The real question is why this is still a problem for anyone in 2013. There are multicast IP protocols for exactly this sort of thing, and it should be enough to have a single server at Apple sending out one repeating stream of packets which would be forwarded to all interested subscribers. It's stupid to have millions of independent TCP streams all grabbing the same data in parallel.


Akamai is vastly overrated, that's why.
 
2013-09-18 05:36:34 PM  
Some funny I saw

nascarcasm @nascarcasm

Know when a great time to release a giant IPhone OS update that takes hours to download would be? During a 5-hour rain delay.

The Catch Fence ™ @TheCatchFence

"iOS 7" "#FirstWorldProblems" "#apple" "#thestruggle" and "#fail" are all trending at the same time. I think they may be related.
 
2013-09-18 05:44:14 PM  
Got to wait till my daughter gets home so I can use her power cord
/Why yes I'm cheap
 
2013-09-18 05:47:03 PM  

Ivo Shandor: The real question is why this is still a problem for anyone in 2013. There are multicast IP protocols for exactly this sort of thing, and it should be enough to have a single server at Apple sending out one repeating stream of packets which would be forwarded to all interested subscribers. It's stupid to have millions of independent TCP streams all grabbing the same data in parallel.


The reason multicast won't work is that every download is digitally signed with your AppleID before it gets sent, so it's unique to your device and AppleID.  Once it's downloaded, the installer double-checks to make sure the hash matches, and then obtains a one-time decryption key to enable the content locally.
 
2013-09-18 05:50:22 PM  

Hollie Maea: The only reasons you would possibly choose to implement the software that way would be sadism or extreme ineptitude. I get the lack of a Swype like input system--they are butthurt that they didn't think of it, and that's how Apple rolls.  But their overall input system seems to be specifically designed to work as poorly as possible.


Yea - Apple's virtual keyboard is such shiat that no one buys their phones.  Absolutely no one.  I hear Apple plans on discontinuing the iPhone and iPad because of poor sales due to iOS's virtual keyboard.
 
2013-09-18 06:11:09 PM  

gingerjet: Hollie Maea: The only reasons you would possibly choose to implement the software that way would be sadism or extreme ineptitude. I get the lack of a Swype like input system--they are butthurt that they didn't think of it, and that's how Apple rolls.  But their overall input system seems to be specifically designed to work as poorly as possible.

Yea - Apple's virtual keyboard is such shiat that no one buys their phones.  Absolutely no one.  I hear Apple plans on discontinuing the iPhone and iPad because of poor sales due to iOS's virtual keyboard.


So because they sell a lot of devices, the devices are perfect and can't be improved in any way?

Wow...
 
2013-09-18 06:16:11 PM  

Shazam999: Ivo Shandor: The real question is why this is still a problem for anyone in 2013. There are multicast IP protocols for exactly this sort of thing, and it should be enough to have a single server at Apple sending out one repeating stream of packets which would be forwarded to all interested subscribers. It's stupid to have millions of independent TCP streams all grabbing the same data in parallel.

Akamai is vastly overrated, that's why.


I was just thinking "a glitch in streaming audio or video won't brick your phone"
 
2013-09-18 06:33:03 PM  

markie_farkie: Got it on our iPad2 without issue around noon today.. Trying to update my iP4 now, and it downloaded fine, but I guess the pre-install phase validates some checksum with Apple before proceeding, and it can't connect right now.

I'll wait a while, try again..

So far the iPad seems to be happy.  The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!


Oh, that 3d thing when you tilt your device that the Zune HD had in 2008? Cool.
 
2013-09-18 07:02:10 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: markie_farkie: Got it on our iPad2 without issue around noon today.. Trying to update my iP4 now, and it downloaded fine, but I guess the pre-install phase validates some checksum with Apple before proceeding, and it can't connect right now.

I'll wait a while, try again..

So far the iPad seems to be happy.  The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!

Oh, that 3d thing when you tilt your device that the Zune HD had in 2008? Cool.


Yeah, that's why the Zune was so much more successful than iOS devices.
 
2013-09-18 07:19:46 PM  

bingethinker: USA Prime Credit Peggy: markie_farkie: Got it on our iPad2 without issue around noon today.. Trying to update my iP4 now, and it downloaded fine, but I guess the pre-install phase validates some checksum with Apple before proceeding, and it can't connect right now.

I'll wait a while, try again..

So far the iPad seems to be happy.  The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!

Oh, that 3d thing when you tilt your device that the Zune HD had in 2008? Cool.

Yeah, that's why the Zune was so much more successful than iOS devices.


Er, no, I'm merely pointing out the continuing trend of iPhone users thinking their device has this "great new feature never before seen" when most likely someone else has had it for years. And in this case, it's a completely useless feature, that adds basically nothing to the user experience.
 
2013-09-18 07:27:41 PM  
Any App Store / iTunes updating is farked today. Not just iOS7.
 
2013-09-18 07:30:35 PM  
When is the jailbreak going to be released?
 
2013-09-18 07:31:50 PM  

bulldg4life: When is the jailbreak going to be released?


I'm sorry to break this to you but Phil Lynott is dead, man. :(
 
2013-09-18 07:42:14 PM  
This is one thing Android has over Apple. XDA is usually quick about posting links for downloadable updates as soon as a few people get their updates.
 
2013-09-18 08:02:11 PM  

gingerjet: Hollie Maea: The only reasons you would possibly choose to implement the software that way would be sadism or extreme ineptitude. I get the lack of a Swype like input system--they are butthurt that they didn't think of it, and that's how Apple rolls.  But their overall input system seems to be specifically designed to work as poorly as possible.

Yea - Apple's virtual keyboard is such shiat that no one buys their phones.  Absolutely no one.  I hear Apple plans on discontinuing the iPhone and iPad because of poor sales due to iOS's virtual keyboard.


It's a deciding factor for some people. I love OSX and my MacBook, but that iOS keyboard is terrible and I want nothing to do with it. It's inflexible and unnecessarily kills a lot of functionality of that phone, especially for people who switch between two or more languages often.
 
2013-09-18 09:06:35 PM  

skinink: This is one thing Android has over Apple. XDA is usually quick about posting links for downloadable updates as soon as a few people get their updates.


Except that most handsets don't have official updates for months after an Android update, if at all.  Google does well with the Nexus line, but Android is a complete clusterfark when it comes to timely OS updates overall compared to Apple.
 
2013-09-18 09:26:35 PM  
I got the update and safari seems slower to me.
 
2013-09-18 09:42:09 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: bingethinker: USA Prime Credit Peggy: markie_farkie: Got it on our iPad2 without issue around noon today.. Trying to update my iP4 now, and it downloaded fine, but I guess the pre-install phase validates some checksum with Apple before proceeding, and it can't connect right now.

I'll wait a while, try again..

So far the iPad seems to be happy.  The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!

Oh, that 3d thing when you tilt your device that the Zune HD had in 2008? Cool.

Yeah, that's why the Zune was so much more successful than iOS devices.

Er, no, I'm merely pointing out the continuing trend of iPhone users thinking their device has this "great new feature never before seen" when most likely someone else has had it for years. And in this case, it's a completely useless feature, that adds basically nothing to the user experience.


I didn't see anyone in this thread saying they had never seen this feature before, just that it's great.
 
2013-09-18 09:45:46 PM  

cgraves67: I got the update and safari seems slower to me.


It is for me, too. I'm downloading 6.1.3 to revert it.
 
2013-09-18 09:47:39 PM  
Worked for me just fine. And iOS 7 is pretty slick thus far, I like it.
 
2013-09-18 10:05:26 PM  

gingerjet: Hollie Maea: The only reasons you would possibly choose to implement the software that way would be sadism or extreme ineptitude. I get the lack of a Swype like input system--they are butthurt that they didn't think of it, and that's how Apple rolls.  But their overall input system seems to be specifically designed to work as poorly as possible.

Yea - Apple's virtual keyboard is such shiat that no one buys their phones.  Absolutely no one.  I hear Apple plans on discontinuing the iPhone and iPad because of poor sales due to iOS's virtual keyboard.


That's your argument? That apple has a good keyboard because they sell a lot of iThings? People buy Apple products for a lot of reasons, and no one besides you suggests that their sales are a referendum on their keyboards. Case in point--I have an iPad but I hate that keyboard with the fire of 1000 suns. I have lots of friends who have apple products as well, and some of which are genuine apple fanboys. But apart from you I have never met anyone who didn't think that the iOS keyboard was anything other than a pile of dog shiat. And yes, they do lose sales over it. When I decided to buy a smart phone, I bought a galaxy over the iPhone largely because of the keyboard. All other things considered, the iPhone is probably a better phone, but fark that keyboard with a rusty pitchfork.
 
2013-09-18 10:07:23 PM  
I typed the above on my iPad just to see how much it would piss me off. When i tried to type "hate" I slightly missed the "t" so apple ignored that keystroke and autocorrected it to "had". Fark that noise.
 
2013-09-18 10:19:25 PM  

markie_farkie: Ivo Shandor: The real question is why this is still a problem for anyone in 2013. There are multicast IP protocols for exactly this sort of thing, and it should be enough to have a single server at Apple sending out one repeating stream of packets which would be forwarded to all interested subscribers. It's stupid to have millions of independent TCP streams all grabbing the same data in parallel.

The reason multicast won't work is that every download is digitally signed with your AppleID before it gets sent, so it's unique to your device and AppleID.  Once it's downloaded, the installer double-checks to make sure the hash matches, and then obtains a one-time decryption key to enable the content locally.


That, and your average ISP has !clue on how to implement proper multicast. The only ones buying a clue are the ones pushing out iptv services.
 
2013-09-18 11:31:06 PM  

FlashHarry: so far, so good. a little android-y, but pretty cool.


My first thoughts as well.
 
2013-09-19 12:33:42 AM  

wildcardjack: Shazam999: Ivo Shandor: The real question is why this is still a problem for anyone in 2013. There are multicast IP protocols for exactly this sort of thing, and it should be enough to have a single server at Apple sending out one repeating stream of packets which would be forwarded to all interested subscribers. It's stupid to have millions of independent TCP streams all grabbing the same data in parallel.

Akamai is vastly overrated, that's why.

I was just thinking "a glitch in streaming audio or video won't brick your phone"


This.

You use multicasting when a minor problem with data corruption that would cause the audio or video to glitch for a moment don't really matter.

You use TCP when the data has to get there without being altered.
 
2013-09-19 08:21:06 AM  
Downloaded it last night. I like it. It has dots instead of bars!  I do like that I can access broader functionality without unlocking: flashlight, calculator.

Most the "new" look and feel has been resident on my Nexus 7 since I got it last winter, though. "Sir" Ivey needs to get over himself.
 
2013-09-19 11:59:18 AM  

BullBearMS: You use multicasting when a minor problem with data corruption that would cause the audio or video to glitch for a moment don't really matter.

You use TCP when the data has to get there without being altered.


Stock exchanges such as the NASDAQ have been sending out multicast data feeds for more than a decade, with a protocol which allows clients to request retransmission of any lost packets. Another option is to wrap the data in an error-correcting code like the ones used on DVDs or satellite television broadcasts.
 
2013-09-19 02:16:06 PM  

Ivo Shandor: BullBearMS: You use multicasting when a minor problem with data corruption that would cause the audio or video to glitch for a moment don't really matter.

You use TCP when the data has to get there without being altered.

Stock exchanges such as the NASDAQ have been sending out multicast data feeds for more than a decade, with a protocol which allows clients to request retransmission of any lost packets. Another option is to wrap the data in an error-correcting code like the ones used on DVDs or satellite television broadcasts.


Yes. If you are sending data in small chunks, you can use UDP with or without multicasting and do a checksum on the file and request retransmission if something went wrong.

TFTP has always done this.

However, the iOS update is a large chunk of data.

It's not impossible to create a system that divides it up into smaller chunks and recreates what TCP does automatically for a data transfer over UDP, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Apple to implement it for the one time a year they do an iOS update.

Their time is better spent elsewhere.
 
2013-09-19 07:43:46 PM  

FlashHarry: markie_farkie: The 3d trick with the wallpaper is pretty cool!

what's the 3d trick? i've got moving bubbles on mine, but it doesn't seem 3d....


Try taking a panoramic photo and then using that as your lock screen.  Neat stuff.
 
2013-09-19 09:41:09 PM  

DenisVengeance: Try taking a panoramic photo and then using that as your lock screen. Neat stuff.


*HANGS HEAD*

I have a lowly iPhone 4 and the parallax animations aren't available on it..  Guess I'll be forced to go out and spend $500 for a new one to benefit from that!
 
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