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(USA Today)   TN appellate court rules that baby can be named "Messiah." Jesus, that took long enough   (usatoday.com) divider line 107
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2013-09-18 01:01:20 PM
Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?
 
2013-09-18 01:31:19 PM
Yeah, he's going to be called "Messy" by his peers until he get out of jail.
 
2013-09-18 01:54:17 PM
....but still shouldn't be.
 
2013-09-18 01:57:44 PM
I'm guessing some people will be very cross with this decision even though the court nailed it
 
2013-09-18 01:57:58 PM
The ruling says nothing about naming dogs...
 
2013-09-18 01:59:01 PM
It does seem like an odd choice, but if naming your kid Krystal or whatever is deciding their future, maybe it works in reverse too.
 
2013-09-18 01:59:19 PM

You know another name with strong biblical ties?


www.positivityblog.com
 
2013-09-18 02:00:58 PM
Small government conservatism wins the.... wait, what's that?

The original judge's super "conservative" position on this is informed by his "Christian" faith, and he vehemently opposed it on those grounds and not the actual law?

I'm shocked... Shocked I tell you.
 
2013-09-18 02:01:33 PM

The Muthaship: ....but still shouldn't be.


Perhaps, but it is not the government's place to tell parents what they can and cannot name their children.
 
2013-09-18 02:01:33 PM

highendmighty: You know another name with strong biblical ties?


Seven?
 
2013-09-18 02:05:08 PM
What's the big deal? Here in San Diego we have many people named Jesus.
 
2013-09-18 02:05:28 PM

Thudfark: I'm guessing some people will be very cross with this decision even though the court nailed it


www.woodworkingtalk.com
 
2013-09-18 02:06:23 PM

vudukungfu: Yeah, he's going to be called "Messy" by his peers until he get out of jail.


Why do you assume he's going to jail ion the first place?
 
2013-09-18 02:06:26 PM
Thanks Mark.

nhl.speedera.net
 
2013-09-18 02:07:09 PM
So the judge would agree the Christopher and Christine should be banned names as well, as there was only one Christ?
 
2013-09-18 02:07:23 PM
Punchline to a Canadian joke.

"Messy, eh?"
"No, it's me Wayne."
 
2013-09-18 02:08:46 PM

Thudfark: I'm guessing some people will be very cross with this decision even though the court nailed it


You're darn right they did, this kid will be crucified for this name in school.
 
2013-09-18 02:10:00 PM

Yes please: highendmighty: You know another name with strong biblical ties?
Seven?


Exactly.  But you wouldn't see any fundie judge objecting to that name even though the presence of "seven" is more abundant that that of the name "Messiah".
 
2013-09-18 02:10:37 PM
They think it's pronounced massah.
 
2013-09-18 02:10:48 PM

mediablitz: Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?


At least no one was beheaded over it, no riots, and buildings torched. Taking the issue to court was, if silly, at least many order of magnitude more civilized. If I have to coexist with a religious community with a persecution complex, I'll take the christian complex over muslims any day of the week.
 
2013-09-18 02:11:01 PM

kid_icarus: Thudfark: I'm guessing some people will be very cross with this decision even though the court nailed it

You're darn right they did, this kid will be crucified for this name in school.


I'm washing my feet of this entire mess
 
2013-09-18 02:12:47 PM
if you can name a kid "thor" or "marduk" or "zeus," why on earth couldn't you call him "messiah?"

i don't even understand the controversy.
 
2013-09-18 02:13:26 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: mediablitz: Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?

At least no one was beheaded over it, no riots, and buildings torched. Taking the issue to court was, if silly, at least many order of magnitude more civilized. If I have to coexist with a religious community with a persecution complex, I'll take the christian complex over muslims any day of the week.


Yes, because we all know there's nobody named Mohammed out there.  Can you imagine the outrage if somebody actually named their kid that?
 
2013-09-18 02:13:28 PM
seeing as this question was posed by my friend sitting to my left, a 40-something highly educated, business owning black man, I don't consider it racist:

"Are they black?  I'm betting on black."
My reply, "They could be really stupid white people... It is TN, by the way..."
His girlfriend, "No, they're black; it is a wholly unique name; no one else will have named their child anything like that.  Which is the point."
His response, "I think so.  That or they are really sick and twisted."
Me, "They're black."
Him, "See? I knew it!  I keep telling you, there are levels of stupidity and there are shades of stupidity within those levels ...."

/it's a hobbyhorse of his
 
2013-09-18 02:13:50 PM

Thudfark: I'm guessing some people will be very cross with this decision even though the court nailed it


Aye-oh! Lol.....
 
2013-09-18 02:15:08 PM
The lower court judge should be shot and then thrown off the bench

Only slightly tangentially, just watched Tim Minchin in Jesus Christ Superstar at the O2. Best.... Judas.... Ever. amen.
 
2013-09-18 02:17:52 PM

Koalaesq: The lower court judge should be shot and then thrown off the bench

Only slightly tangentially, just watched Tim Minchin in Jesus Christ Superstar at the O2. Best.... Judas.... Ever. amen.


Oh wow.  That sounds utterly amazing.  Wish I could see that, but this isn't exactly a big theater town.
 
2013-09-18 02:20:02 PM
This is blasphemy!
There is only ONE true Messiah, and he was the lead singer for Candlemass.
 
2013-09-18 02:21:28 PM

Last Man on Earth: Koalaesq: The lower court judge should be shot and then thrown off the bench

Only slightly tangentially, just watched Tim Minchin in Jesus Christ Superstar at the O2. Best.... Judas.... Ever. amen.

Oh wow.  That sounds utterly amazing.  Wish I could see that, but this isn't exactly a big theater town.


I saw it on DVD.... I would have given 30 pieces of silver to have seen it live, if you know what I mean
 
2013-09-18 02:22:00 PM
And absolutely nothing will happen to the judge despite making a knowingly unconstitutional ruling.
 
2013-09-18 02:22:01 PM
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2013-09-18 02:22:01 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: mediablitz: Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?

At least no one was beheaded over it, no riots, and buildings torched. Taking the issue to court was, if silly, at least many order of magnitude more civilized. If I have to coexist with a religious community with a persecution complex, I'll take the christian complex over muslims any day of the week.


Originally they didn't take this issue to court. The original judge took it upon herself to give the kid a new first name.
 
2013-09-18 02:22:15 PM

Thudfark: I'm guessing some people will be very cross with this decision even though the court nailed it


They may be cross, but someone else has to bear it.
 
2013-09-18 02:22:30 PM
But what if he's just a very naughty boy?

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-09-18 02:22:36 PM

LarryDan43: They think it's pronounced massah.


made me chuckle
 
2013-09-18 02:23:06 PM
Mahdi?
 
2013-09-18 02:26:24 PM
Can you still name them Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff?
 
2013-09-18 02:27:53 PM

Latinwolf: Why do you assume he's going to jail ion the first place?


Because I DRTFA, but I am psychic.
I like to read the Fark headlines before I wake up.
 
2013-09-18 02:28:42 PM
One of the monsters goes to school with several children named after animals (Wolf, Tiger, Lion) and even one named "King."

/No controversy here. Just give your kids names they can spell early and no more than three or four names.
 
2013-09-18 02:29:44 PM
This is Tennessee.  We elect our judges, here, which means they have to maintain their insane political posturing while on the bench.  So, this judge probably ran on a campaign of good, Christian values and has to uphold his values to keep his bench.

In fact, this probably scores him points for reelection...
 
2013-09-18 02:30:39 PM

Last Man on Earth: ThrobblefootSpectre: mediablitz: Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?

At least no one was beheaded over it, no riots, and buildings torched. Taking the issue to court was, if silly, at least many order of magnitude more civilized. If I have to coexist with a religious community with a persecution complex, I'll take the christian complex over muslims any day of the week.

Yes, because we all know there's nobody named Mohammed out there.  Can you imagine the outrage if somebody actually named their kid that?


the muslims take the graven image bit way too literally in my opinion, and the whole, "I shall return" part sparked a long-lived naming frenzy for naming male children after the prophet.  What we don't see in modern christianity is a bunch of kids named Jesus(with the exception of the latin peoples, for some reason).  Mohammed the prophet went out after having a gaggle of wives and a ton of concubines and slave girls.  That would be a fun part to take up as the new prophet.  Jesus of Nazareth went out after being scourged, nailed to a cross, and having a spear through his side.  There is an "I will come again" in his teachings as well, but, honestly..... do you want to go through that after(supposedly) never having touched a woman?  I am all about living by my conscience, but no thank you.

/One of my EE courses has no less than 5 Mohammeds in it, and the saudi students only number about 15 in that class
//They go be their last name while in class, so as not to confuse the professor
 
2013-09-18 02:31:46 PM

Last Man on Earth: ThrobblefootSpectre: mediablitz: Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?

At least no one was beheaded over it, no riots, and buildings torched. Taking the issue to court was, if silly, at least many order of magnitude more civilized. If I have to coexist with a religious community with a persecution complex, I'll take the christian complex over muslims any day of the week.

Yes, because we all know there's nobody named Mohammed out there.  Can you imagine the outrage if somebody actually named their kid that?


Just fyi - Mohammed is a prophet, and a proper name. Not a deity. Christian equivalent to Ezekial.

"Messiah" to christians means the deity incarnate, not a proper name. Muslim equivalent of naming a child Allah, (not mohammed.)

/and there were international riots over a school teacher naming a teddy bear Mohammed, btw
 
2013-09-18 02:31:46 PM
Noodley Appendage of the great Spaghetti Monster still up in debate
 
2013-09-18 02:31:48 PM
well hallelujah
 
2013-09-18 02:34:27 PM
MEH
 
2013-09-18 02:34:33 PM

Latinwolf: vudukungfu: Yeah, he's going to be called "Messy" by his peers until he get out of jail.

Why do you assume he's going to jail ion the first place?


Because he's in Cocke County, TN.  If it's not moonshine, it's meth.
 
2013-09-18 02:36:03 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: mediablitz: Yet another example of Christian persecution. Why can't a good Christian judge protect the sanctity of an arbritary English name?!?!?

At least no one was beheaded over it, no riots, and buildings torched. Taking the issue to court was, if silly, at least many order of magnitude more civilized. If I have to coexist with a religious community with a persecution complex, I'll take the christian complex over muslims any day of the week.


I live around many Muslims. I've never seen them do any of the things you mention. What part of America do you live in?
 
2013-09-18 02:37:00 PM

meat0918: The Muthaship: ....but still shouldn't be.

Perhaps, but it is not the government's place to tell parents what they can and cannot name their children.


I agree almost completely.

It's just a shame that there are people so stupid that stuff like this ends up in court.

/looking at you, mom
//and you too, Cocke County
 
2013-09-18 02:38:36 PM

Learned Hand Job: This is Tennessee.  We elect our judges, here, which means they have to maintain their insane political posturing while on the bench.  So, this judge probably ran on a campaign of good, Christian values and has to uphold his values to keep his bench.

In fact, this probably scores him points for reelection...


I'm thinking landslide reelection...
 
2013-09-18 02:45:02 PM

Latinwolf: vudukungfu: Yeah, he's going to be called "Messy" by his peers until he get out of jail.

Why do you assume he's going to jail ion the first place?


Because he's black.
 
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