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(Uproxx)   Not surprisingly, CNN botched its live coverage of the DC Navy Yard shootings. Cue the inevitable Daily Show shaming   ( uproxx.com) divider line
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2013-09-18 12:42:39 PM  
Haven't they shamed themselves off the air yet?
Keyboard cat! Take them off!
 
2013-09-18 12:48:53 PM  
I'm glad that I went to the NBC Washington livestream, then.  I found their coverage to be thorough but not overly sensational, and very few of their "breaking news items" have later been proven false, or at least groundless (the guy in the khaki jacket with the handgun, for example).
 
2013-09-18 12:55:19 PM  
"Somebody keeps weed in this!  Really?  Motherf*cker!"

LMAO
 
2013-09-18 01:04:22 PM  
He's absolutely right, though.  While all the cable news networks in this country suck massive, massive quantities of dick, CNN is the Sasha Grey of sucking massive, massive quantities of dick.  Wolf Blitzer actually asked if the fact the shooter was reported to have been wearing a black shirt and black pants somehow meant anything as to his motives.  Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.
 
2013-09-18 01:06:15 PM  

factoryconnection: "Somebody keeps weed in this!  Really?  Motherf*cker!"

LMAO


That was hilarious. You could tell he was serious. Nice glare at the stage manager, lol.
 
2013-09-18 01:22:23 PM  
Does CNN have significant ratings numbers anymore?  I mean, people rip on Fox News all the time for being biased "infotainment" slingers, but that is only significant because they have millions of devoted viewers blaring that sh*t all day.  CNN is kind of an embarrassment for non-conservatives, what with Piers Morgan being a prime-time cluebag and Wolf Blitzer 20 years past his Gulf War I prime.

So can I say fairly that "yeah they suck, and yeah they're liberally-bent, but nobody really watches them" with any accuracy?  None of my liberal friends follow any of those cable news talking heads much, except maybe a few Maddow shares on facebook.  Compare that to conservatives, with their Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, FNN, and Glenn Beck shares, and it is a landslide.
 
2013-09-18 01:28:58 PM  

factoryconnection: Does CNN have significant ratings numbers anymore?


Now that "The Ed Show" is back on MSNBC, CNN has someone they beat. Other than that, dismal.
 
2013-09-18 01:34:21 PM  

mediablitz: Now that "The Ed Show" is back on MSNBC, CNN has someone they beat. Other than that, dismal.


That checks with my experience.  The only time I ever see CNN is flying through ATL and when they're getting torched by the Daily Show.
 
2013-09-18 02:00:18 PM  

factoryconnection: mediablitz: Now that "The Ed Show" is back on MSNBC, CNN has someone they beat. Other than that, dismal.

That checks with my experience.  The only time I ever see CNN is flying through ATL and when they're getting torched by the Daily Show.


I just checked the Monday ratings. They did very well ratings wise for the shooting, soundly beating MSNBC

Link
 
2013-09-18 02:01:30 PM  
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2013-09-18 02:05:20 PM  
That was brilliant.

On another topic, I am concerned that as I was wearing a black shirt and pants yesterday I might somehow have been involved in something nefarious.

Not today though.  I am wearing a kilt and a Frogtown Vineyards shirt.  I wonder what Wolf would construe from that....
 
2013-09-18 02:13:29 PM  

Nogrhi: Frogtown Vineyards


From Dahlonega? I love that place.

/sorry for the threadjack
 
2013-09-18 02:13:39 PM  

mediablitz: I just checked the Monday ratings. They did very well ratings wise for the shooting, soundly beating MSNBC


See: there's the thing.  I, too feel that CNN was the go-to disaster news source.  Day-to-day they suck but they were always good for breaking disaster coverage.  Then I watched their Sendai Earthquake/Tsunami and Fukushima coverage and that went out the window.  Evidently their Boston bombing coverage was a high-rated shambles, and so was this.

Stewart's conclusion that this sloppy, scattershot approach is deliberate to keep people tuned in is probably accurate.  Sad.
 
2013-09-18 02:20:03 PM  
Impossible. CNN doesn't feel shame.
 
2013-09-18 02:33:39 PM  
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2013-09-18 02:34:05 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: Nogrhi: Frogtown Vineyards

From Dahlonega? I love that place.

/sorry for the threadjack


That is the one.  Went to a wedding rehearsal there and loved the muscadine grape wine so much.  Can't get it out here in western CO.
 
2013-09-18 02:42:37 PM  

factoryconnection: I'm glad that I went to the NBC Washington livestream, then.  I found their coverage to be thorough but not overly sensational, and very few of their "breaking news items" have later been proven false, or at least groundless (the guy in the khaki jacket with the handgun, for example).


Watching NBC Washington brings the added bonus of possibly seeing Wendy Rieger.

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2013-09-18 02:43:46 PM  
As I have now seen a baboon masturbating, I can die having lived a full life.
 
2013-09-18 02:48:13 PM  
If CNN or Fox were able to feel shame, they'd have been off the air 10 years ago.
 
2013-09-18 02:48:22 PM  

Coco LaFemme: He's absolutely right, though.  While all the cable news networks in this country suck massive, massive quantities of dick, CNN is the Sasha Grey of sucking massive, massive quantities of dick.  Wolf Blitzer actually asked if the fact the shooter was reported to have been wearing a black shirt and black pants somehow meant anything as to his motives.  Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.


While Sasha Grey has sucked a lot of dick (...sucked a lot of dick...), she ain't had mine, and should in no way be degraded by association with CNN. Sucking dick like Ms. Grey would be a serious improvement on what they actually do.
 
2013-09-18 02:59:39 PM  
Well too bad they peaked with Gulf War 1. It's been all downhill since the OJ trial.
 
2013-09-18 03:06:27 PM  

factoryconnection: Does CNN have significant ratings numbers anymore?  I mean, people rip on Fox News all the time for being biased "infotainment" slingers, but that is only significant because they have millions of devoted viewers blaring that sh*t all day.  CNN is kind of an embarrassment for non-conservatives, what with Piers Morgan being a prime-time cluebag and Wolf Blitzer 20 years past his Gulf War I prime.

So can I say fairly that "yeah they suck, and yeah they're liberally-bent, but nobody really watches them" with any accuracy?  None of my liberal friends follow any of those cable news talking heads much, except maybe a few Maddow shares on facebook.  Compare that to conservatives, with their Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, FNN, and Glenn Beck shares, and it is a landslide.


Since when does CNN have a liberal bent?
 
2013-09-18 03:09:34 PM  

A. Snatchfold: factoryconnection: Does CNN have significant ratings numbers anymore?  I mean, people rip on Fox News all the time for being biased "infotainment" slingers, but that is only significant because they have millions of devoted viewers blaring that sh*t all day.  CNN is kind of an embarrassment for non-conservatives, what with Piers Morgan being a prime-time cluebag and Wolf Blitzer 20 years past his Gulf War I prime.

So can I say fairly that "yeah they suck, and yeah they're liberally-bent, but nobody really watches them" with any accuracy?  None of my liberal friends follow any of those cable news talking heads much, except maybe a few Maddow shares on facebook.  Compare that to conservatives, with their Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, FNN, and Glenn Beck shares, and it is a landslide.

Since when does CNN have a liberal bent?


Since it's not Fox News.

DUH!
 
2013-09-18 03:10:58 PM  
More like the LEAST trusted name in news, amireet??
 
2013-09-18 03:28:29 PM  
I see OJ, and he look mighty scared.
 
2013-09-18 03:36:34 PM  

Nurglitch: Coco LaFemme: He's absolutely right, though.  While all the cable news networks in this country suck massive, massive quantities of dick, CNN is the Sasha Grey of sucking massive, massive quantities of dick.  Wolf Blitzer actually asked if the fact the shooter was reported to have been wearing a black shirt and black pants somehow meant anything as to his motives.  Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.

While Sasha Grey has sucked a lot of dick (...sucked a lot of dick...), she ain't had mine, and should in no way be degraded by association with CNN. Sucking dick like Ms. Grey would be a serious improvement on what they actually do.


They'd probably get better ratings too.  They could even keep the same show names...
"Next up on OutFront..."
"You're in the 'Situation room'..."
etc
 
2013-09-18 03:39:07 PM  
It had a poor wrap up, but the message was great.

In the absence of breaking news, cable news channels rely on the variety of one tactic. Concise and informative reporting.
It's not an "interesting development", you're just standing in front of a camera naming things you see. It's like walking down the street with a 5 year old. Police Car. Fire hydrant.
But perhaps the worst thing about the Blitzer reportage, besides using phrases like "can we draw any initial conclusions".... that's kind a semantic work around for "make #### up, I'm on till 4".
This speculation is like a compulsion. I know you think saying "This could all be wrong" makes it's seem ok to say it, but doesn't make it ok. No one else in the World operates that way.
That's when I realized, all of yesterdays confusion in the reporting (On the Navel Yard Shooting) it's not a mistake, because sadly, the one thing in this country they should have great practice in covering, are these horrific shooting tragedies. And there a ton of really smart people and good journalists who work over at CNN and this is only 5 months after all the criticism of CNN's chaotic Bostons Terrorism coverage INCLUDING when they announced on air, an arrest that had not happened.

So my final, not initial conclusion is...this is deliberate. The chaos...they vomit on the screen. The very thing we thought news organizations were created to clarify is a feature.
Not a bug.

Here's CNN's boss describing the lesson they learned during the Boston coverage."
"So we made that mistake on a Wednesday of that Boston coverage. Two days later as the drama unfolded in Boston. We had out biggest audience in 10 years. You know who got it? You who understood that we made a mistake and we acknowledged it? The audience."

Oh, my God. The lesson they take from this is, it doesn't matter how much they betray our trust, we'll keep coming back.
We're in an abusive relationship with CNN.
 
2013-09-18 03:45:46 PM  

A. Snatchfold: Since when does CNN have a liberal bent?


Well, I mean...

MFAWG: Since it's not Fox News.


That.  The people that slam CNN for its bias are almost exclusively heavy FNN consumers, and that's what I meant.  I don't watch CNN because I hate the banality of 24-hour news in general.
 
2013-09-18 03:49:11 PM  

Coco LaFemme: He's absolutely right, though.  While all the cable news networks in this country suck massive, massive quantities of dick, CNN is the Sasha Grey of sucking massive, massive quantities of dick.  Wolf Blitzer actually asked if the fact the shooter was reported to have been wearing a black shirt and black pants somehow meant anything as to his motives.  Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.


Stealth, Wolf; it's all about the stealth.  If he managed to get the lights turned off, and his sneak skill was above 50 (or 40 if he has the Move Silently perk) then they never would have seen him until it was too late.
 
2013-09-18 03:55:23 PM  

A. Snatchfold: Since when does CNN have a liberal bent?


When things need to be unskewed
 
2013-09-18 04:00:39 PM  

factoryconnection: A. Snatchfold: Since when does CNN have a liberal bent?

Well, I mean...

MFAWG: Since it's not Fox News.

That.  The people that slam CNN for its bias are almost exclusively heavy FNN consumers, and that's what I meant.  I don't watch CNN because I hate the banality of 24-hour news in general.


This. The other thing that strikes me is the massive asymmetry. I don't know anybody on the left who defends or admires CNN or MSNBC (with the possible exception of the Maddow followers). I don't know anybody who forwards their stories or quotes their talking heads or repeats their talking points. And yet I constantly hear from conservative friends that "MSNBC is at least as biased as Fox". Yeah, maybe it is, I don't know. The difference is that nobody on this side of the aisle cares what MSNBC says. It has zero influence, unlike FNN. MSNBC doesn't speak for us or to us. It's the Air America of network news.

And probably the reason for that is that, unlike conservatives, there's just not much of an audience on the left for having our persecution complex fluffed and our bunker mentality reinforced. Unlike conservatives, we don't need  to live in a constant state of outrage and fear to maintain arousal.
 
2013-09-18 04:04:21 PM  
Yep, masturbating baboon just about covers it.
 
2013-09-18 04:04:38 PM  

A. Snatchfold: factoryconnection: Does CNN have significant ratings numbers anymore?  I mean, people rip on Fox News all the time for being biased "infotainment" slingers, but that is only significant because they have millions of devoted viewers blaring that sh*t all day.  CNN is kind of an embarrassment for non-conservatives, what with Piers Morgan being a prime-time cluebag and Wolf Blitzer 20 years past his Gulf War I prime.

So can I say fairly that "yeah they suck, and yeah they're liberally-bent, but nobody really watches them" with any accuracy?  None of my liberal friends follow any of those cable news talking heads much, except maybe a few Maddow shares on facebook.  Compare that to conservatives, with their Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, FNN, and Glenn Beck shares, and it is a landslide.

Since when does CNN have a liberal bent?


Since they don't repeat Fox News verbatim?
 
2013-09-18 04:27:02 PM  

A Screaming Man with Two-Toned Shoes: More like the LEAST trusted name in news, amireet??


Actually they are the MOST trusted name in news... now that the news media has completely blown all their credibility.
 
2013-09-18 04:28:35 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.


To be fair to CNN, it is conceivable that the choice of clothing could provide relevant intel. For example, say the shooter has dressed in the morning so as to have plenty of pockets for ammo - that would indicate pre-meditation toward a large-scale attack rather than the guy going nuts at something that happened that day.

That said, I don't think journalists should be discussing that sort of thing unless the clothing clearly points towards a specific purpose, which 'black jeans and top' obviously don't.
 
2013-09-18 04:28:46 PM  

Coco LaFemme: He's absolutely right, though.  While all the cable news networks in this country suck massive, massive quantities of dick, CNN is the Sasha Grey of sucking massive, massive quantities of dick.  Wolf Blitzer actually asked if the fact the shooter was reported to have been wearing a black shirt and black pants somehow meant anything as to his motives.  Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.


*giggity*
 
2013-09-18 04:33:14 PM  
www.digitaljournal.com
the shooter, per Wolf Blitzer
 
2013-09-18 04:35:57 PM  

Coco LaFemme: He's absolutely right, though.  While all the cable news networks in this country suck massive, massive quantities of dick, CNN is the Sasha Grey of sucking massive, massive quantities of dick.  Wolf Blitzer actually asked if the fact the shooter was reported to have been wearing a black shirt and black pants somehow meant anything as to his motives.  Because somehow a shooter's sartorial choices that morning have any bearing whatsoever on the proceedings.


I agree with others sentiment, if we want to keep the same analogy lets go with someone like Kelly Wells
 
2013-09-18 04:38:41 PM  

Jake Havechek: I see OJ, and he look mighty scared.


He lookin very tenses
 
2013-09-18 04:48:04 PM  
Ah yes, the CNN AR-15 Shotgun

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2013-09-18 04:50:25 PM  
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2013-09-18 05:03:03 PM  

czetie: And probably the reason for that is that, unlike conservatives, there's just not much of an audience on the left for having our persecution complex fluffed and our bunker mentality reinforced.


An interesting point, although my personal observations would differ slightly. Whilst I'd definitely agree that those on the right opt for environments that don't do anything to challenge their world-view, a lot of those on the left I've encountered are similarly as selective, albeit in a more sophisticated manner. I'd say their preference is still for an echo chamber, but one that allows in just enough outside criticism to maintain the pretence of not being an echo chamber.

I'd say there are plenty of people on both sides who will happily wallow in the intellectual dishonesty of biased informational intake, it's just that those on the left are much more sensitive about doing so overtly.
 
2013-09-18 05:15:15 PM  
Never forget...

i.qkme.me
 
2013-09-18 05:23:45 PM  
This just in.....initial reports often contain inaccuracies.

Also, Jon Stewart is still not funny.
 
2013-09-18 05:27:03 PM  

gfid: This just in.....initial reports often contain inaccuracies.

Also, Jon Stewart is still not funny.


An astute observation. There is no material difference between "initial reports" and "just making shiat up to fill airtime." Thanks for the enlightening post!
 
2013-09-18 05:28:59 PM  

eddievercetti: Never forget...

[i.qkme.me image 432x327]


I had not heard that... I knew it must be true, but I put it into Google hoping against all hope that I'd find it was some made up meme. Why is it so disappointing to learn something you suspected is actually true?

/<idontwanttoliveonthisplanet.jpg>
 
2013-09-18 05:34:17 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: gfid: This just in.....initial reports often contain inaccuracies.

Also, Jon Stewart is still not funny.

An astute observation. There is no material difference between "initial reports" and "just making shiat up to fill airtime." Thanks for the enlightening post!


So they should just ignore it?

Or they should say "There's something happening in DC, but we're not going to tell you anything until we get the full story"?

I don't have the disadvantage of having cable, so I had to watch reports on it from places like Al Jazeera, BBC and others who also got some details wrong.

Shocking, isn't it?
 
2013-09-18 06:10:12 PM  

The Numbers: An interesting point, although my personal observations would differ slightly. Whilst I'd definitely agree that those on the right opt for environments that don't do anything to challenge their world-view, a lot of those on the left I've encountered are similarly as selective, albeit in a more sophisticated manner. I'd say their preference is still for an echo chamber, but one that allows in just enough outside criticism to maintain the pretence of not being an echo chamber.

I'd say there are plenty of people on both sides who will happily wallow in the intellectual dishonesty of biased informational intake, it's just that those on the left are much more sensitive about doing so overtly.


You are almost certainly right that everybody selects for reinforcing information; and further, when forced to experience contrary information we find ways to disarm it ("I don't believe that because it came from Fox/Washington Times/etc.").

However, the other big difference is the nature of the reinforcement. The right wing mentality is essentially "We, our families, our values, our way of life are under attack. We must stick together to survive." It uses fear to motivate obedience and conformity.

The left wing mentality is much more "They, the poor, the defenseless, the weak are under attack. We must come to their aid if they are to survive." At it's best, that mentality gives you white people marching alongside blacks for civil rights, straights standing up for gay marriage, or Warren Buffett saying "rich people like me should be taxed more if it means healthcare for the poor". At it's worst, it gets you a nanny/police state.
 
2013-09-18 06:44:55 PM  

gfid: This just in.....initial reports often contain inaccuracies.

Also, Jon Stewart is still not funny.


Is that your initial conclusion?
 
2013-09-18 07:07:50 PM  
CNN uses crises actors. You'll see the same person on scene for several of our recent tragedies. They are an arm of the FBI/NSA and cannot be trusted.

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