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(Huffington Post)   Problem: you have thousands of tons of radioactive water and have to figure out where to put it before it all leaks into the ocean. Solution: No, really, if you have a solution please tell Japan   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 169
    More: Scary, Fukushima, Tokyo Electric Power Co., water tanks, typhoons  
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2013-09-18 12:49:16 PM  
Let it leak into the ocean and Japan can finally have those tentacle rape monsters they've been dreaming of.
 
2013-09-18 12:55:18 PM  
The operator of the leaking Fukushima nuclear plant said Tuesday that it dumped more than 1,000 tons of polluted water into the sea after a typhoon raked the facility.

I don't know what the solution is, but speaking as a former 12 year old, I can say for sure, admitting what you did isn't part of it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-18 12:57:31 PM  
Take control away from Tepco.  That's would be the first step.
 
2013-09-18 01:09:25 PM  
i218.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-18 01:13:17 PM  
Just leave it on the Turnpike, no one would even notice.
 
2013-09-18 01:13:52 PM  
Damnit, the New Jersey Turnpike.
 
2013-09-18 01:23:38 PM  
They'll continue to dump it in the ocean, because many people feel the solution to pollution is dilution, and no one wants to pay for proper cleanup.

What is the water contaminated with?  Is it possible to remove the contaminates with filtration devices?

What do you do with that filtered crap now?  It's concentrated now too, so it's more dangerous.

I'd really love to know, because in a few years, Portland will be selling glowing beer as the Hanford farkup upstream on the Columbia continues to remain unresolved.
 
2013-09-18 01:23:44 PM  
Is it part of the solution or part of the parcipitate?
 
2013-09-18 01:23:52 PM  
Alcohol is a solution.
 
2013-09-18 01:24:25 PM  
No Godzilla jokes, please!!  Aim higher, you can do it, Fark.  I'm counting on you.
 
2013-09-18 01:24:45 PM  
Bottle it, distribute it as a Kardashian line of scented douching solution/body wash/scent.
 
2013-09-18 01:25:33 PM  
Dasani?
 
2013-09-18 01:26:06 PM  
Get a really long hose and shoot it into space.
 
2013-09-18 01:27:22 PM  
www.rivasecostore.com
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-09-18 01:28:42 PM  
Can we use it to wash off all those stubborn burned-in shadows left over from the last nuke thing?

/bad hand, bad hand....sorry
 
2013-09-18 01:28:43 PM  
Meh sell it to drought stricken Africans. They're desperate enough to drink anything water like.
 
2013-09-18 01:29:00 PM  
Put in all in retention ponds on the disputed islands and solve two problems at once.
 
2013-09-18 01:29:12 PM  
Chuu Ice?
 
2013-09-18 01:29:13 PM  
They're going to dump it in the ocean again. They might find a way to say it was an accident or something, but it's happening.
 
2013-09-18 01:29:20 PM  
I'm dumb so I have to ask.  Why do they have to keep using fresh water to keep the rods cool instead of the same radioactive water?  Is the radioactive water no longer cool?

I mean it has to be cool for it to remain water, right?  Else it would be radioactive gas?  Couldn't they let the radioactive water "cool" down and just use it again?
 
2013-09-18 01:29:36 PM  
Tokyo Electric Power, reintroducing the term "kiloton" to Japanese current events.
 
2013-09-18 01:29:40 PM  
Sell it in 1 oz. bottles labled as "Spiderman Starter Kit".
 
2013-09-18 01:30:05 PM  
Use an evaporation process to get the clean water out of the radiated matieral.  Store whatever is leftover in huge lead-lined vats, and bury it under ground.
 
2013-09-18 01:30:35 PM  
Send it to China?
 
2013-09-18 01:31:03 PM  
but remember how awesome and safe and clean nuclear is, kids!
 
2013-09-18 01:31:21 PM  
Bottle it, package it as a new energy drink and market it towards the dregs of the population.

/What do I win?
 
2013-09-18 01:31:35 PM  
here in america we pay our companies to put it in our drinking water

duuurrr buy a waler filter huurrrr
 
2013-09-18 01:31:47 PM  
Dump it in the ocean would be the cheap, immediate, and publically unacceptable solution.

Cask it, let it decay in storage, and then dispose of the casks would be the expensive and time consuming but probably publically acceptable solution.

Attempt to segregate the hot water from the really hot water, ocean dispose of large quanitites of hot water with increased long term monitoring while casking, storing, and disposing of the really hot stuff is probably the intermediate solution that no one will be pleased with.

Tepco has no good answers here, and their total failure to communicate issues up front with the public will make any practical solution going forward incredibly challenign while they're in charge.
 
2013-09-18 01:32:45 PM  
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It just needs a brand name... 福水, Fukumizu, Good Fortune Water (Fuku, the first character in Fukushima, means good fortune in Japanese according to Google Translate, so that should work)
 
2013-09-18 01:33:14 PM  

FullMetalPanda: I'm dumb so I have to ask.  Why do they have to keep using fresh water to keep the rods cool instead of the same radioactive water?  Is the radioactive water no longer cool?

I mean it has to be cool for it to remain water, right?  Else it would be radioactive gas?  Couldn't they let the radioactive water "cool" down and just use it again?


It's like a circle...
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2013-09-18 01:33:15 PM  
If only there was some kind of moon base where they could safely store radioactive materials
 
2013-09-18 01:33:33 PM  
Solution: Start building a holding facility. In the meantime get some tanker trucks in there and move the polluted water to the holding facility for eventual decontamination.

Or

Do nothing. Watch it leak into the ocean. Complain about the three headed sharks and mega jellyfish terrorizing the beaches.
 
2013-09-18 01:33:48 PM  

FullMetalPanda: I'm dumb so I have to ask.  Why do they have to keep using fresh water to keep the rods cool instead of the same radioactive water?  Is the radioactive water no longer cool?

I mean it has to be cool for it to remain water, right?  Else it would be radioactive gas?  Couldn't they let the radioactive water "cool" down and just use it again?


Good question.  Any engineers want to step up to the plate?

Seems like an obvious solution...maybe the water on re-use would get enough additional contamination it would be an even worse problem?
 
2013-09-18 01:33:56 PM  

tommyl66: Bottle it, package it as a new energy drink and market it towards the dregs of the population.

/What do I win?


Sell it in south Osaka please. Trashy as all get out.
 
2013-09-18 01:34:14 PM  
Freeze it into big blocks of ice and ship it to Alaska. As long as the American Air Force doesn't accidentally bomb the radioactive ice, you shouldn't have to worry about it melting and spawning giant monsters who will follow the scent of Japanese water home and destroy fake-looking cities until some kids whose parents are journalists or scientists help the Japanese army to stop them by asking their friend Go-Zilla to fight the monsters.

Seriously, freezing is something they have already considered to help prevent leakage.

This way, they can save on electricity by permanently dumping it on somebody else's doorstep, lighting the paper bag on fire, and running away, a tried and true method of dealing with environmental problems.
 
2013-09-18 01:34:21 PM  

durbnpoisn: Use an evaporation process to get the clean water out of the radiated matieral.  Store whatever is leftover in huge lead-lined vats, and bury it under ground.


Then you have radioactive steam.  Which takes up more space and blows up more.
 
2013-09-18 01:34:48 PM  
I hear there are a bunch of teabaggers who think radiation is good for you. Have them bring their coolers.
 
2013-09-18 01:34:49 PM  
FTA  "workers could not start the water pump quick enough in the torrential rain"

K, it's hard not to laugh at TEPCO here; seriously, guys?

Your water pumps didn't work...because they got wet?

/probably more to the story
 
2013-09-18 01:35:16 PM  

error 303: dispose of the casks


where? leave them out by the curb for Waste Management to pick up?
 
2013-09-18 01:36:15 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Sell it in 1 oz. bottles labled as "Spiderman Starter Kit".


Sell it to Dr. Oz fans as some kind of magical elixir.
 
2013-09-18 01:36:41 PM  
realistically, say it was dumped into the ocean. It's not a lot of water. A metric ton of water is 1 meter cubed. 

What would the effects be? The worlds total water weighs 1,400,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons.

How is 0.00000000^A% of that going to make a difference?

Also, Electrolysis and/or evaporation would be a good start.
 
2013-09-18 01:38:45 PM  
This one is a no brainer...just drink some rad-x.

fallout.neoseeker.com
 
2013-09-18 01:39:12 PM  

iamepic: realistically, say it was dumped into the ocean. It's not a lot of water. A metric ton of water is 1 meter cubed. 

What would the effects be? The worlds total water weighs 1,400,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons.

How is 0.00000000^A% of that going to make a difference?

Also, Electrolysis and/or evaporation would be a good start.


That's not true. Homeopathy says that dilution makes it stronger.
 
2013-09-18 01:40:28 PM  

derpy: but remember how awesome and safe and clean nuclear is, kids!


Even if you include Chernobyl, Hydro power has killed more people than all nuclear power incidents combined, ever. Just sayin'
=Smidge=
 
2013-09-18 01:40:40 PM  

iamepic: realistically, say it was dumped into the ocean. It's not a lot of water. A metric ton of water is 1 meter cubed.

What would the effects be? The worlds total water weighs 1,400,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons.

How is 0.0000000000000000001% of that going to make a difference?

Also, Electrolysis and/or evaporation would be a good start.



To be more specific, it's like pissing in a lake. Really not going to be an issue.
 
2013-09-18 01:41:19 PM  
Process the water as best you can, then pump it into the ocean. With the volume at hand, the discharged water will have to be lower purity that is normally acceptable, but a heck of a lot better than just letting it flow unprocessed into the ocean.

The Deminerilizer resin and filter media will be dealt with as 'ordinary' solid radioactive waste.
 
2013-09-18 01:42:05 PM  

brantgoose: Freeze it into big blocks of ice and ship it to Alaska. As long as the American Air Force doesn't accidentally bomb the radioactive ice, you shouldn't have to worry about it melting and spawning giant monsters who will follow the scent of Japanese water home and destroy fake-looking cities until some kids whose parents are journalists or scientists help the Japanese army to stop them by asking their friend Go-Zilla to fight the monsters.

Seriously, freezing is something they have already considered to help prevent leakage.

This way, they can save on electricity by permanently dumping it on somebody else's doorstep, lighting the paper bag on fire, and running away, a tried and true method of dealing with environmental problems.


Some call this the French Method.

Honestly though, gradually leak it into the ocean.  Really the only sensible thing to do and if done over a long period of time, not harmful.
 
2013-09-18 01:42:43 PM  
Water doesn't get radioactive.   It is the contaminates in the water that are radioactive

Like someone else said, evaporate out the pure water, then vitrify the sludge
 
2013-09-18 01:43:53 PM  

meat0918: the solution to pollution is dilution


Needs an angry crowd screaming it, and you've got something there.
 
2013-09-18 01:43:54 PM  
Flush it down the toilet.
 
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