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2013-09-18 11:37:27 AM
8 votes:
I am in full support of this bill.  I can't wait to see what they propose in the bill.
2013-09-18 11:53:41 AM
7 votes:
Without having seen the bill I still feel I can confidently predict the language will include some, if not all, of the following:

Corporate tax cuts
Replacing Medicaid and Medicare with vouchers that will be massively useful when a 77-year-old with diabetes and congestive heart failure goes shopping on the free market for insurance
Requirements that anyone applying for said vouchers must register as a Republican and give proxy to a panel comprised of Karl Rove, Rick Santorum, Rush Limbaugh and Snuggle, the Fabric Softener Bear
Corporate tax cuts. Different ones, but still.
$1.5 trillion in direct payments to defense contractors to invent a gun that fires poor people at Muslins
2013-09-18 10:50:49 AM
3 votes:
They don't like the mandate, originally a conservative idea, so they'll probably surprise everyone and replace it with single payer.  Ha! Take that Obama!
2013-09-18 10:47:07 AM
3 votes:
Reading from the text of the proposed bill: "Oo ee oo ah ah, ting, tang, walla walla bing bang"
2013-09-18 03:03:01 PM
2 votes:

Deucednuisance: Lucky LaRue: You don't even try, do you?

The way you try everyone's patience?

No, I do not.

You just keep showing everyone how you're superior to all of us.

It's very convincing.


Almost wife-like?
2013-09-18 02:10:39 PM
2 votes:

Lucky LaRue: The most unfortunate part of this whole discussion is that people with your mindset seem to think there are only two sides:  Extreme Left and Extreme Right.


Awesome, you light that strawman on fire, dude! Kick its imaginary ass! You're so superior to it!
2013-09-18 12:31:26 PM
2 votes:
MadHatter500:

You are a complete ass.  Good thing you can be an ITG.  At a bar you'd be beaten bloody with this attitude.

See, I don't get ITG at all....I totally get foppish dandy

who would scream and tremble and the mere thought of fisticuffs.  While sniffing snuff from a tiny laquer box with his elegant, yet freakishly female fingers.
2013-09-18 11:41:13 AM
2 votes:
The state-level exchanges aren't advertising the exchanges as ObamaCare.  They have different names for them that intentionally separate from ObamaCare.  When they explain to customers what plans are available, most people are pretty happy.  In Kentucky, there was one instance of a customer remarking, "This is better than ObamaCare!"  It's one of the weirdest disconnects I've ever seen.
2013-09-18 11:39:21 AM
2 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Too little, too late, assholes.


I'm against anything that makes my asshole late or smaller.
2013-09-18 10:49:05 AM
2 votes:
Will it have three circles with words in them, and lines connecting those circles.
2013-09-18 04:24:59 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: cameroncrazy1984: Lucky LaRue: Are you seriously trying to argue that, if I don't do your research for you, then your point is proven?  Really?  And you wonder why I don't take you seriously?

Ok.  Congratulations.  You win the internet.

MY research? I'm not the one who made the claim. YOU made it. Why is it suddenly MY responsibility to back up YOUR claim?

So, you are suggesting that if I were to find an example of someone claiming that they disagree with everything the Republicans put forth all the time, you would concede that you are a dumbass?


Ah, now we see why it took you so long to respond in any way to the question posed. You were busy hooking up the trailer hitch to move the goalposts.
2013-09-18 03:57:30 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Lucky LaRue: You're delusional if you think that people have not expressed in this thread some variation of "If Republicans are for it, then I'm against it".

Who?


This guy, for one:

Lucky LaRue: I don't doubt the GOP bill is a pile of trash - I would be surprised if it was anything more than a rally-post for their base as they gear up for primary season.
2013-09-18 03:50:51 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: I am beginning to suspect you just talk in circles until people get tired of trying to extract reason from you.


This is some more really high grade projection. Keep going. It should make for an fun diversion until some details about the plan get released for people to discuss.
2013-09-18 03:26:50 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: InmanRoshi: Lucky LaRue: Solid Muldoon: Republican Plan: If we just stop feeding old people and giving them medicine, they'll die off. Social Security and Health Care saved! It's a win/win!

I'm curious.. do you really believe the Republicans want to kill off America's elderly?

It would be hard to conclude otherwise when they literally stand and cheer hypoteheticals about letting  uninsured die at the Republican Presidential debates.

As I said elsewhere, those cheering would be the bat-shiat insane extreme right.  Those are the very people, coincidentally, I am suggesting the extreme left so markedly resemble in behavior and attitude.


Oh so you created a strawman with a false equivalency?

So ... So ....so close to the logical fallacy hat trick.   Better luck next time.
2013-09-18 03:23:56 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: cameroncrazy1984: Lucky LaRue: cameroncrazy1984: I like the idea that you have to agree with some of the supposed extremist's ideas in order to be considered a moderate.

So you consider yourself a moderate, then?

I consider myself to be center-left.

So, you ♥ Stalin?


Obviously. Since I disagree with the GOP 100% of the time, I must be an extreme lefty commie libby lib.
2013-09-18 03:21:37 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Lucky LaRue: cameroncrazy1984: I like the idea that you have to agree with some of the supposed extremist's ideas in order to be considered a moderate.

So you consider yourself a moderate, then?

I consider myself to be center-left.


So, you ♥ Stalin?
2013-09-18 03:06:30 PM
1 votes:

2wolves: Deucednuisance: Lucky LaRue: You don't even try, do you?

The way you try everyone's patience?

No, I do not.

You just keep showing everyone how you're superior to all of us.

It's very convincing.

Almost wife-like?


This had me laughing to the core.
2013-09-18 02:43:25 PM
1 votes:

Heliovdrake: Deucednuisance: Lucky LaRue: You don't even try, do you?

The way you try everyone's patience?

No, I do not.

You just keep showing everyone how you're superior to all of us.

It's very convincing.

Don't forget the amazing job hes been doing to win the hearts and minds of everyone in this thread.

Well, he won Aristocles heart at least.


There's a white elephant if I've ever seen one...
2013-09-18 02:40:25 PM
1 votes:

Heliovdrake: Deucednuisance: Lucky LaRue: You don't even try, do you?

The way you try everyone's patience?

No, I do not.

You just keep showing everyone how you're superior to all of us.

It's very convincing.

Don't forget the amazing job hes been doing to win the hearts and minds of everyone in this thread.

Well, he won Aristocles heart at least.


Don't you see? It's based on empirical evidence! It's probably lost under the couch.
2013-09-18 02:39:37 PM
1 votes:

Deucednuisance: Lucky LaRue: You don't even try, do you?

The way you try everyone's patience?

No, I do not.

You just keep showing everyone how you're superior to all of us.

It's very convincing.


Don't forget the amazing job hes been doing to win the hearts and minds of everyone in this thread.

Well, he won Aristocles heart at least.
2013-09-18 02:38:55 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Certain FARKers have done - and continue to do - an amazing job at holding libs accountable for things they never said.


Libralllllls
Inside my heeeeeaaaaddd
Echoooo
Things no one said....
2013-09-18 02:37:40 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: Wow.. you really are reaching, now.  At least take my comment out of your reply before you manipulate it to make it say something that supports your argument, dude.


Please share where this happens. I'm pretty certain at this point you don't even know what your argument is, other than you're SO INCREDIBLY superior to everyone else because of this empirical evidence that no one can see.
2013-09-18 02:37:20 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: You don't even try, do you?


The way you try everyone's patience?

No, I do not.

You just keep showing everyone how you're superior to all of us.

It's very convincing.
2013-09-18 02:31:40 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: Your logic skills are truly amazing.  Farcical, yes, but amazing nonetheless.


Come on, where's all this empiric evidence that makes you so superior to us? Is it a pdf or Excel spreadsheet?
2013-09-18 02:29:30 PM
1 votes:

Wasteland: cameroncrazy1984: Lucky LaRue: The most unfortunate part of this whole discussion is that people with your mindset seem to think there are only two sides:  Extreme Left and Extreme Right.

Awesome, you light that strawman on fire, dude! Kick its imaginary ass! You're so superior to it!


What's particularly amusing is that the above line follows this exchange:

Lucky LaRue: d23:
Right now I am considered a dirty leftist because I think that every idea (or lack of) of the GOP is total crap.
Again, being a "leftist" to these folks means I don't agree with their point of view in lockstep.
No, you are a "leftist" because you think "every idea (or lack of) of the GOP is total crap".

...which is, itself, an explicit statement that being opposed to either side makes one necessarily of the other.  No third option given; mere categorical disagreement is sufficient.  He's managed to chase the argument full circle, to the point of biting his own ass.


It's like a mobius strip of ass-biting.

/I'm getting an acid flashback here
2013-09-18 02:25:12 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: Well.. yes, that's the gist of it, anyway, though I would say "hypothetical" rather than "imaginary".  Liberals who oppose hypothetical GOP proposals that support Democrat policy are extremists.


Lucky LaRue: I don't doubt the GOP bill is a pile of trash

And, we're through the looking glass, here, people.
2013-09-18 02:11:54 PM
1 votes:

Aristocles: Soup4Bonnie: Tax cuts so you can buy insurance
Tort reform
HSA
Purchase insurance across state lines


The whole thing is weak, old, tried, and late.  They even trot out the old "increased competition will lower costs".  It stinks on ice.

Yeah, unless we give the Federal Government more authority in our daily lives, it's gonna flop! hurrrrrrrrrrrr!


You can always opt out.
2013-09-18 02:10:11 PM
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: Tax cuts so you can buy insurance
Tort reform
HSA
Purchase insurance across state lines


The whole thing is weak, old, tried, and late.  They even trot out the old "increased competition will lower costs".  It stinks on ice.


Yeah, unless we give the Federal Government more authority in our daily lives, it's gonna flop! hurrrrrrrrrrrr!
2013-09-18 01:58:29 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: I'm sorry, I thought we were comparing something liberals might do to something the GOP actually did. I wasn't aware hypotheticals were equal to tangibles.


Hell if I know man.  All know is that Lucky thinks both sides are bad and that everyone disagreeing with him on anything is a liberal.
2013-09-18 01:13:37 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: The state-level exchanges aren't advertising the exchanges as ObamaCare.  They have different names for them that intentionally separate from ObamaCare.  When they explain to customers what plans are available, most people are pretty happy.  In Kentucky, there was one instance of a customer remarking, "This is better than ObamaCare!"  It's one of the weirdest disconnects I've ever seen.

That's pretty typical of the ODS crowd.  Didn't like a third of LA Republicans recently blame the poor response to Hurricane Katrina on Obama?

These people are just insane.  They are literally separated from sanity.


They've still never forgiven Obama for betraying the Confederacy during the War of Northern Aggression.
2013-09-18 12:55:19 PM
1 votes:

DarnoKonrad: Lucky LaRue: Your mistake is thinking I am a conservative.  I think they are just as ridiculous as you are, though.  And, yes, before you trot out that tired trope, I *do* think my political views are superior to both yours and the teahadists.

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2013-09-18 12:54:53 PM
1 votes:
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2013-09-18 12:40:17 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: my political views are far, far superior


I nominate you mayor of the Politics Tab.  Should you be elected, you'll receive a top hat, monocle, and monogrammed butt plug.
2013-09-18 12:34:02 PM
1 votes:

Flab: Lucky LaRue: I'm not "above it all", certainly.

Lucky LaRue: But, really, it's not hard to feel superior to two tribes of warring morons.

so which is it?


Both, and also neither. It's whatever makes you pay attention to him.
2013-09-18 12:32:24 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: I'm not "above it all", certainly.


Lucky LaRue: But, really, it's not hard to feel superior to two tribes of warring morons.


so which is it?
2013-09-18 12:32:05 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: I'm not a fan of the "potato" pics that are posted to show how stupid someone is. The guy in the photo is a human being. He had no control over his circumstances.


/My $.02
//end threadjack


Victim of circumstances my ass. He knew what he was getting into when he followed Frodo into Mordor.
2013-09-18 12:23:12 PM
1 votes:

Aristocles: Lucky LaRue: HighOnCraic: coeyagi: BojanglesPaladin: Lucky LaRue: I am beginning to suspect you just talk in circles until people get tired of trying to extract reason from you.

I see you just met HighonCraic :)

I love it when ConservaTrolls high five on Fark.  An angel gets its wings.... ripped the f*ck off and sold to a Chinese pillow manufacturer.

They've got their projectors on at full strength!

Your mistake is thinking I am a conservative.  I think they are just as ridiculous as you are, though.  And, yes, before you trot out that tired trope, I *do* think my political views are superior to both yours and the teahadists.

Haha! The Farklibs are eating their own again! Real funny stuff... angels and whatnot!


Im starting to miss skinnyhead..

At least he was amusing,
2013-09-18 12:19:42 PM
1 votes:

vpb: It was the same with Social Security and Medicare. Once the law comes into effect it will become a political third rail like Social security.


Keep your government hands off my Obamacare.
2013-09-18 12:14:45 PM
1 votes:
I'm glad to see they finally brought their comprehensive plan to fruition

api.ning.com
2013-09-18 12:14:12 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Reading from the text of the proposed bill: "Oo ee oo ah ah, ting, tang, walla walla bing bang"


I read it more as:

Pee ppo kro ha ha
Pee ppo kro ha ha
Pee ppo kro ha ha
And that means oh go screw
2013-09-18 12:11:59 PM
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: I love snarky Yglesias.


Thanks for the heads up, now I know not to click.

--

It seems like the Farklib view is "If those darn teahadicans er fer it.... aaaaahm agin' it!" It's like dems and Farklibs don't really care about the problem at all, they just want to defeat their political opponents no matter the cost.
2013-09-18 12:07:05 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Lucky LaRue: I am beginning to suspect you just talk in circles until people get tired of trying to extract reason from you.

I see you just met HighonCraic :)


I love it when ConservaTrolls high five on Fark.  An angel gets its wings.... ripped the f*ck off and sold to a Chinese pillow manufacturer.
2013-09-18 12:06:26 PM
1 votes:
Holy shiat, this thread is on 5 popped collar alert.
2013-09-18 12:02:35 PM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: mediablitz: Offer the same thing. Call it something different. Claim victory.

The sad thing is that all the liberals would immediately start screaming about how bad the bill was for the country.


The pretend Liberal behavior described here is equal to with the real Conservative behavior.
2013-09-18 11:58:55 AM
1 votes:
"The RSC press release announcing the bill's introduction included no hints of what the legislation might contain."

Until then, there is nothing to discuss. Just threads full of 'OMG I hate repubs'!!elevenses!!1!!
2013-09-18 11:55:32 AM
1 votes:

AirForceVet: Mentat: The state-level exchanges aren't advertising the exchanges as ObamaCare.  They have different names for them that intentionally separate from ObamaCare.  When they explain to customers what plans are available, most people are pretty happy.  In Kentucky, there was one instance of a customer remarking, "This is better than ObamaCare!"  It's one of the weirdest disconnects I've ever seen.

I believe the real issue is the Democrats have introduced the ACA that, once implemented, will become popular like Social Security and Medicare are now. That's why the Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to prevent it from full deployment. ObamaCare will make the GOP look like fools.

Also, IMHO, I strongly suspect that the GOP leaders are terrified when the majority of American people realize what President Obama has done with creating ObamaCare, that majority will realize an African-American could be a great President for all the people.


Meanwhile at the GOP HQ

static.squarespace.com

http://nooooooooooooooo.com
2013-09-18 11:52:51 AM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: mediablitz: Offer the same thing. Call it something different. Claim victory.

The sad thing is that all the liberals would immediately start screaming about how bad the bill was for the country.


The GOP has done nothing of value in the last 4.5 years.  This would be just extrapolation from the trending data.
2013-09-18 11:26:05 AM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: Listen, I'm not at all perturbed that you don't want to talk to me simply because I refuse to narrow my world-view down with the black-and-white filters you put on every day to make your hatred for the other side seem more righteous.


Says the guy who thinks he knows what all libs WILL do when this plan, whatever it is, is unveiled.

This is either utter stupidity or brilliant trolling.
2013-09-18 11:03:48 AM
1 votes:
Ahh, yes, the "If they would rather die they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population" Act of 2013
2013-09-18 10:52:40 AM
1 votes:

mediablitz: Offer the same thing. Call it something different. Claim victory.


You were just using me
And there is no one you can use now

/Only time will tell if this is a good idea. . .
2013-09-18 10:52:18 AM
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: mediablitz: Offer the same thing. Call it something different. Claim victory.

The sad thing is that all the liberals would immediately start screaming about how bad the bill was for the country.


So, they want to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage without inflated rates, but they want to do away with the individual mandate?

I love that idea.  If implemented well it has the potential to bankrupt the health insurance companies within several years.  Then we can install a universal single payer system like we should have to begin with.
2013-09-18 10:48:00 AM
1 votes:

mediablitz: Offer the same thing. Call it something different. Claim victory.


The sad thing is that all the liberals would immediately start screaming about how bad the bill was for the country.
 
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