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2013-09-18 11:53:53 AM

dj_spanmaster: Because People in power are Stupid: Aut supplies are expensive.

All health services supplies and services in the US are outrageously overpriced.


In a not-for-profit there can't be any profit. So where does the extra money go on Dec 31? (Hint: Executive Bonus)
 
2013-09-18 11:54:18 AM

Bunkyb123: Federal taxes have gone from 27% to nearly 40% of my check in 5 years


a temporary reduction in taxes was lifted - one which was well publicized.  For any view more than just a couple years, taxes have gone down  dramatically- and the lowering is very distinctly correlated to the economy worsening.
 
2013-09-18 11:54:31 AM

hasty ambush: ikanreed: Serious Black: hasty ambush: ikanreed: I wish there were more trustworthy charities.

"Oh you're raising money for Autism 'Awareness'?  But you're not bothering to actually explain what people need to be aware of?  Sign me up!"

You can check:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/

It gives a breakdown of how charities spend their money.

For example Planned Parenthood  and Catholic Charities USA are both highly ranked with 70%-80% of their contributions going toward their programs and 20%-30% going toward admin, salaries , fund raising etc.

Federal government social welfare programs are normally the reverse (30% programs 70% admin) because of the costs of the large bureaucracies, regulations, one size fits all nature of the programs and high priced government employees  (instead of a lot of volunteers or part timers)

  Nice thing about private charities is you can pick the charities you want to give to-government does not give you that option.  Government is like charity at bayonet point.

Worst. Lie. Ever.

[www.cbpp.org image 450x573]

Yeah, 70% overhead sounded extreme, like a made up number.  Thanks for getting actual data.

Conservatism: lying for no particular reason to protect "charities"
What do Liberals have against Planned Parenthood-a private charity?


I have nothing against Planned Parenthood and, in fact, donate a decent chunk of change to Planned Parenthood.
 
2013-09-18 11:57:42 AM

Bunkyb123: I wish mine were, Federal taxes have gone from 27% to nearly 40% of my check in 5 years. Every time I get a little raise I get less money. I believe in paying taxes, too to support our infrastructure and safety, but the government wastage of the money otherwise would be a wonderfully different grand debate and we'd get too far off track.


Not unless your income has gone up a hell of a lot or your accounting department is full of crooks.
 
2013-09-18 11:57:44 AM

IamAwake: lordjupiter: you have pee hands: Getting around to actually reading the article, what?  Gen Y millionaires and baby boomer millionaires aren't at all comparable.  You have to be making very good money (or be a trust fund kid) to be a millionaire at 30.  A millionaire at 65 could very easily someone middle class without a pension who scraped together a reasonable nest egg for retirement.

So no boomers had trust funds growing up, or got rich quick?  But if they did, they got stingier as they got older?

Are there statistics showing the boomers being this charitable in their 30s and 40s?

You're missing the point.  If you're a millionaire at age 30, you're likely actively making a lot of money  right now, and will continue to be for 20-30 years (and in fact, likely will see your income to continue to increase).   If you're 60 and a millionaire, that likely means that you were simply good at saving money, but had only a modest income - and seeing the economic turmoil of the last couple decades makes you have concerns, given you either already aren't working anymore, or are very soon to not be.

If the 30 year old were facing forced retirement, never allowed to work again (outside of silly jobs like walmart greeter), they would likely be just as non-charitable.

How about we look and see what the charity giving of the boomers were when  they were 30, among those who were millionaires at the time?  That would be substantially more fair of a comparison.


You sure I missed the point?  Look closely.
 
2013-09-18 11:58:33 AM
A donation has been made in your name to The Human Fund.

It's For People.
 
2013-09-18 12:01:36 PM

Bunkyb123: http://www.fark.com/comments/7938278/86540248#c86540248" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bunkyb123: It's not a valid survey unless they factor in age. What were baby boomers giving at the same age? May have been as much. When we are young we are often more idealistic and that's awesome. Kudos to them. After time goes by and year after year you see your paycheck dwindling due to government spending factors, many social, that you have no control over you slow down the giving. On top of that, learning about the massive waste of money most large well-known charities spend on marketing and half-million dollar salaries for top executives slows down spending. I know a lot of people that are baby boomers that give money on grass-roots level - where it's needed and there is no record of that. For example, a person you know that who didn't have money to go see a sick relative - a little cash goes there. I am the last person on earth you will ever see thumping a bible, but one saying has always stuck with me "do not your alms before men". In a nutshell, we give but just because some massive conglomerate hasn't got it on their books doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Taxes are the lowest in decades. Sorry to spoil your narrative. I like civilization, so I am okay with paying taxes. I am NOT okay with that money going to subsidize fat cats, though

I wish mine were, Federal taxes have gone from 27% to nearly 40% of my check in 5 years. Every time I get a little raise I get less money. I believe in paying taxes, too to support our infrastructure and safety, but the government wastage of the money otherwise would be a wonderfully different grand debate and we'd get too far off track.


I'm just gonna call you a liar.

I hope that's ok with you.
 
2013-09-18 12:02:38 PM

You're the jerk... jerk: Serious Black: hasty ambush: ikanreed: I wish there were more trustworthy charities.


Worst. Lie. Ever.

[www.cbpp.org image 450x573]

I don't even see why someone would think this is true and I say this as an anti-government libertarian. The biggest source of overhead is fundraising, government programs have no fundraising issues. They also have well defined rules of distribution and vary little arbitrariness (other causes of overhead).

/Also, people should definitely consider things other than expense ratios when looking at charities.  http://freakonomics.com/2011/06/09/why-ranking-charities-by-administr a tive-expenses-is-a-bad-idea/


This is absolutely true, but it's very tough to figure out whether a charity is doing a good job with their money because people have different standards for what qualifies as a good job. If I give a hundred bucks to a local food bank, odds are none of that money will keep someone alive who otherwise would have died. But that money will pay for a couple hundred meals to families experiencing some food insecurity, thus making their lives a little bit better. How do you quantify that?
 
2013-09-18 12:03:23 PM

meat0918: Bunkyb123: http://www.fark.com/comments/7938278/86540248#c86540248" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bunkyb123: It's not a valid survey unless they factor in age. What were baby boomers giving at the same age? May have been as much. When we are young we are often more idealistic and that's awesome. Kudos to them. After time goes by and year after year you see your paycheck dwindling due to government spending factors, many social, that you have no control over you slow down the giving. On top of that, learning about the massive waste of money most large well-known charities spend on marketing and half-million dollar salaries for top executives slows down spending. I know a lot of people that are baby boomers that give money on grass-roots level - where it's needed and there is no record of that. For example, a person you know that who didn't have money to go see a sick relative - a little cash goes there. I am the last person on earth you will ever see thumping a bible, but one saying has always stuck with me "do not your alms before men". In a nutshell, we give but just because some massive conglomerate hasn't got it on their books doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Taxes are the lowest in decades. Sorry to spoil your narrative. I like civilization, so I am okay with paying taxes. I am NOT okay with that money going to subsidize fat cats, though

I wish mine were, Federal taxes have gone from 27% to nearly 40% of my check in 5 years. Every time I get a little raise I get less money. I believe in paying taxes, too to support our infrastructure and safety, but the government wastage of the money otherwise would be a wonderfully different grand debate and we'd get too far off track.

I'm just gonna call you a liar.

I hope that's ok with you.


How would we know?
 
2013-09-18 12:05:03 PM

Gunny Highway: Which generation is the one that doesnt biatch, moan, and belittle?  Can I be a part of that group?


Not in THIS country you can't
 
2013-09-18 12:05:49 PM

lordjupiter: How would we know?


A millennial would be ok with it, a boomer wouldn't.
 
2013-09-18 12:06:09 PM
People only think I'm greatly generous.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-18 12:07:08 PM
The most likely reason for this is that the older generations have families to support, saving for retirement and putting kids/grandkids through college.  People who come into money quickly and at an early age tend to not think about the future as much because they think their wealth is going to last forever.
 
2013-09-18 12:08:02 PM

IamAwake: a temporary reduction in taxes was lifted - one which was well publicized.  For any view more than just a couple years, taxes have gone down  dramatically- and the lowering is very distinctly correlated to the economy worsening.


That, and a lot of Bootstrap-Americans like to play word-fu by (intentionally, for some) conflating  income and  payroll taxes.
 
2013-09-18 12:09:31 PM
Mom and Dad didn't have the luxury of texting 1234 to 4567 to donate $10 to whatever cause back then.
 
2013-09-18 12:15:01 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: dj_spanmaster: Because People in power are Stupid: Aut supplies are expensive.

All health services supplies and services in the US are outrageously overpriced.

In a not-for-profit there can't be any profit. So where does the extra money go on Dec 31? (Hint: Executive Bonus)


Hey, I've worked there!
 
2013-09-18 12:16:39 PM
This just in.. Young people with no expensed and found money may spend that money, assuming it will be there tomorrow, and if not, they can always borrow money from gramps...

and older people, with buttloads of expenses might not spend as much money because they know that gramps died 40 years ago and cant lend them any money.
 
2013-09-18 12:16:52 PM

ReapTheChaos: People who come into money quickly and at an early age tend to not think about the future as much because they think their wealth is going to last forever.


Unikely.  The study states that millennials were seemingly more generous with their plans to pass on their wealth to heirs, as well as having 50% more money in employee sponsored retirement assets.
 
2013-09-18 12:18:15 PM

ikanreed: zeroman987: Its almost as if the baby boomers projected these qualities on the millenials because the baby boomers actually demonstrate these qualities on a regular basis.

I know I identify with my grandparents and their values (greatest generation) than my mom or dad (boomers).

My grandmother had this to say about the greatest generation.  "They called us the greatest generation, because we went to fight in The War.  But they forget there was a draft.  We didn't want to go."(Obviously she wasn't drafted)


Ehh... you had those that didn't want to go, and you had those that volunteered before they were legal. Same thing happened with 9/11.
 
2013-09-18 12:22:32 PM

Gunny Highway: Which generation is the one that doesnt biatch, moan, and belittle?  Can I be a part of that group?


All the dead ones are pretty quiet. They're not a group I look forward to joining, though. They don't get out much.
 
2013-09-18 12:26:48 PM
Oh, we are the me generation? How about when my grandparents past away my father and uncles decided to blow the inheritance on non appreciating items like new vehicles or TV's. Well I thought it was just my family but every person of my age is going or has gone through a similar scenario.


/ not $1 went to the massive debt he has.
// had to tell my father about the good pine box he's going to get.
/// I'll get off my soapbox now.
 
2013-09-18 12:33:06 PM

gnosis301: rhondajeremy: And cue the Boomer hatred!

//wonder how epic this thread will be

The Knight Sabers are our only hope.



Ha. I wonder how many will understand that.

/Konya wa hurricane
 
2013-09-18 12:47:25 PM

hi13760: Oh, we are the me generation? How about when my grandparents past away my father and uncles decided to blow the inheritance on non appreciating items like new vehicles or TV's. Well I thought it was just my family but every person of my age is going or has gone through a similar scenario.


/ not $1 went to the massive debt he has.
// had to tell my father about the good pine box he's going to get.
/// I'll get off my soapbox now.


We need to bring back potter's fields for the boomers.


/Don't mind me, just whipping the froth.
 
2013-09-18 12:49:43 PM
thetangential.com
 
2013-09-18 12:51:57 PM
blog.jamesleonis.com
 
2013-09-18 12:53:22 PM

ikanreed: I wish there were more trustworthy charities.


there probably will be, once boomers aren't running them.
 
2013-09-18 12:54:11 PM
My parents are boomers and they are some of the most generous people I know. They donate a lot of time and moeny to their local community. Every year dad is Santa at a party for underprivilaged kids and mom fills a table of cakes, cookies and pies for them. I wish I could be more like them.
 
2013-09-18 12:55:38 PM
hasty ambush
What do Liberals have against Planned Parenthood-a private charity?

Your bullshiat number was called out with actual statistics, so you've responded with quote mined bullshiat from people who want to destroy welfare. How nice. Ignore facts. Anything to support your narrative, eh?
 
2013-09-18 12:55:51 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I used to work for a not-for-profit hospital, biggest scam ever.


i used to work for a non profit mental health center, biggest scam eve. we were actually told constantly to find reasons to medicate people.
 
2013-09-18 12:57:09 PM
ikanreed



I wish there were more trustworthy charities.

This is why I only give to local charities. 5% of my income goes directly to the local (county) food shelf. And I like to drop off toys to Toys for Tots... never $$$.

United Way and Red Cross are big bloated companies made to look like charities.... Fark em.
 
2013-09-18 01:02:55 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I used to work for a not-for-profit, biggest scam ever.



FTFY.
 
2013-09-18 01:05:23 PM

zeroman987: ikanreed: zeroman987: Its almost as if the baby boomers projected these qualities on the millenials because the baby boomers actually demonstrate these qualities on a regular basis.

I know I identify with my grandparents and their values (greatest generation) than my mom or dad (boomers).

My grandmother had this to say about the greatest generation.  "They called us the greatest generation, because we went to fight in The War.  But they forget there was a draft.  We didn't want to go."(Obviously she wasn't drafted)

I don't disagree with that, but she is selling her generation short. The greatest generation lived through the depression and fought in wwII, even if it was against their will. I don't know about you, but my grandparents are about the toughest people I know. They don't put up with crap but they don't whine about how tough life is either. My grandpa redid thier kitchen at age 85. By himself. Including putting up the cabinets, etc. My grandparents used to fight like cats and dogs but stayed together - divorce just wasn't an option. I have never observed a truer love than the love they (both sets maternal and paternal) had/have for each other.

On the other hand, my folks gave up on their marriage at the drop of a hat, and my dad couldn't wait to get out of dodge. While my dad is handy around the house, he has nowhere near the fortitude that his dad has. My mom isn't much better and relies on me for a lot. I don't think my folks are bad people, they just never faced the challenges their parents faced and it shows.

In the end, when I was unemployed/doing odd legal jobs for a year, barely scraping by, I turned to my grandparents for moral [not financial] support. Their strength, tenacity, and courage inspired me and kept me going. They are not perfect people, but they have a certain inner strength that they did not pass on to their kids. While I am not nearly as strong as they are, it is something worth striving for and it is something much more valuable than the fleeting pleasure (be it sex, money, drugs, or power) that my parent's generation chased.


You are fortunate to have them as a resource. My grandfather (b. 1912) had a life more in common with mine than my parents, and not a day goes by I don't wish for the chance to ask him just one more question (d. 1999, when I was 18 and too dumb to know what I was missing out on).

Its easy to blame the boomers and write off those who do, but any honest accounting of history will have to contend with the abject failure of american institutions in the late 20th century, orchestrated and conducted by individuals with an unprecedented experience in this world.
 
2013-09-18 01:06:57 PM

oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
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2013-09-18 01:10:35 PM

Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
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so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?


I don't use facebook, twitter, google plus, or any of that crap, and even I can recognize that this is a case of a person being angry at what they don't understand.
 
2013-09-18 01:12:59 PM

Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
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so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?


No. I'm saying that if you're in the physical presence of someone you should put your phone down and converse with them "face to face" as it were - or does that clash with your high-functioning autism?
 
2013-09-18 01:13:43 PM
If I had Zuckerberg money, I'd be giving a lot of it away, too.

I mean, ultra rich people who give to charity should be recognized, but they're not contributing half their income to charity. They're giving away money they'd just spend on another plane or house or Ferrari. They still have plenty left. Unlike most Americans of all ages.
 
2013-09-18 01:14:39 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I used to work for a not-for-profit hospital, biggest scam ever.


I've noticed more and more non-profits popping up.  Someone from work recently started their own.  I'm positive it's nothing more than a scam to add themselves to the payroll.
 
2013-09-18 01:19:39 PM
Unfortunately this isn't a great comparison.  Boomers with a million dollars are probably the top 30% or somewhere around there (just guessing honestly).

30 year old Americans worth a million dollars are probably the top 1 or 2%.

The top 1 or 2% should be giving more to charity than the top 30%.

Again just guesses at numbers.  Didn't read the article so not sure about ages involved either.

That being said your highest overall worth should be right before retirement not at 30.  And I'd bet just about everyone here over the age of 40 has a higher worth than they did at 20 or 30.
 
2013-09-18 01:22:02 PM

oldfarthenry: Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
`Like'
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so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?

No. I'm saying that if you're in the physical presence of someone you should put your phone down and converse with them "face to face" as it were - or does that clash with your high-functioning autism?


Caveman say fire bad!  Dumb kids use fire to cook!  Caveman know that fire bad, because fire hurt.  Dumb kids are dumb!
 
2013-09-18 01:25:05 PM

Serious Black: You're the jerk... jerk: Serious Black: hasty ambush: ikanreed: I wish there were more trustworthy charities.


Worst. Lie. Ever.

[www.cbpp.org image 450x573]

I don't even see why someone would think this is true and I say this as an anti-government libertarian. The biggest source of overhead is fundraising, government programs have no fundraising issues. They also have well defined rules of distribution and vary little arbitrariness (other causes of overhead).

/Also, people should definitely consider things other than expense ratios when looking at charities.  http://freakonomics.com/2011/06/09/why-ranking-charities-by-administr a tive-expenses-is-a-bad-idea/

This is absolutely true, but it's very tough to figure out whether a charity is doing a good job with their money because people have different standards for what qualifies as a good job. If I give a hundred bucks to a local food bank, odds are none of that money will keep someone alive who otherwise would have died. But that money will pay for a couple hundred meals to families experiencing some food insecurity, thus making their lives a little bit better. How do you quantify that?


It isn't easy, but I tend to believe the best in people. Most charities are doing their best to help people, if their work is something that has a lot of overhead and very little actual hand outs then something like charity navigator is going to make them look terrible. If the charity is something like handing out food, without decision making or evaluation, then unless involved parties are idiots they can skim off the top and still look pretty good under charity navigator.

I am not saying people shouldn't use it, but they should understand the limitations of the information and the implications of their analysis.
 
2013-09-18 01:28:15 PM

ikanreed: oldfarthenry: Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
`Like'
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so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?

No. I'm saying that if you're in the physical presence of someone you should put your phone down and converse with them "face to face" as it were - or does that clash with your high-functioning autism?

Caveman say fire bad!  Dumb kids use fire to cook!  Caveman know that fire bad, because fire hurt.  Dumb kids are dumb!


You reach exceed grasp! You try play gods!
 
2013-09-18 01:48:59 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Because People in power are Stupid: I used to work for a not-for-profit hospital, biggest scam ever.

Try a not for profit homeless shelter. Goodwill Family Center in Evansville, Indiana LOVES their prosperity gospel crapola while using almost all the money they bring in through the stores to pay for overhead and pushing it up to the United Way for lobbying.

I worked there for a year and saw the entire on-site network was unprotected and 100% shared. I could literallly read anything the director or social worker had on their computer. When I pointed this flaw out, I was told it wasn't my job. So I read everything the director read until I told a co-worker that she lives in a trailer for a reason (for some reason, that's a bridge burning move).

Wow, nice ethics you got there.

 
2013-09-18 02:07:57 PM

rhondajeremy: And cue the Boomer hatred!

//wonder how epic this thread will be


i.chzbgr.com

/amidoinitright?
 
2013-09-18 02:08:46 PM
Tired of your pre-millennial bullshiat. So say we all!

i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-09-18 02:08:52 PM

ikanreed: oldfarthenry: Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
`Like'
`Like'
`Like'
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`Like'
`Like'

so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?

No. I'm saying that if you're in the physical presence of someone you should put your phone down and converse with them "face to face" as it were - or does that clash with your high-functioning autism?

Caveman say fire bad!  Dumb kids use fire to cook!  Caveman know that fire bad, because fire hurt.  Dumb kids are dumb!


And you wonder why you haven't been promoted out of the mail room.
PUT THE PHONE DOWN, A-HOLE! YOUR BOSS IS "SPEAKING" TO YOU - LIKE DIRECTLY - IN REAL LIFE & SH*T!
 
2013-09-18 02:11:47 PM

oldfarthenry: ikanreed: oldfarthenry: Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
`Like'
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so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?

No. I'm saying that if you're in the physical presence of someone you should put your phone down and converse with them "face to face" as it were - or does that clash with your high-functioning autism?

Caveman say fire bad!  Dumb kids use fire to cook!  Caveman know that fire bad, because fire hurt.  Dumb kids are dumb!

And you wonder why you haven't been promoted out of the mail room.
PUT THE PHONE DOWN, A-HOLE! YOUR BOSS IS "SPEAKING" TO YOU - LIKE DIRECTLY - IN REAL LIFE & SH*T!


Also try flinging your poo once your incoherent screeching doesn't work.  Also, you totally accurately called what my job is.
 
2013-09-18 02:17:17 PM

ikanreed: Serious Black: hasty ambush: ikanreed: I wish there were more trustworthy charities.

"Oh you're raising money for Autism 'Awareness'?  But you're not bothering to actually explain what people need to be aware of?  Sign me up!"

You can check:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/

It gives a breakdown of how charities spend their money.

For example Planned Parenthood  and Catholic Charities USA are both highly ranked with 70%-80% of their contributions going toward their programs and 20%-30% going toward admin, salaries , fund raising etc.

Federal government social welfare programs are normally the reverse (30% programs 70% admin) because of the costs of the large bureaucracies, regulations, one size fits all nature of the programs and high priced government employees  (instead of a lot of volunteers or part timers)

  Nice thing about private charities is you can pick the charities you want to give to-government does not give you that option.  Government is like charity at bayonet point.

Worst. Lie. Ever.

[www.cbpp.org image 450x573]

Yeah, 70% overhead sounded extreme, like a made up number.  Thanks for getting actual data.

Conservatism: lying for no particular reason to protect "charities"


Heh. His chart is a lie too. It ignores full costs. For example, Medicare has revenue collection largely handled by the IRS and companies through taxation. Private companies don't get to hand off that cost to a separate government agency. Same with enforcement through other branches. I'm sure you will be just as outraged by the liberal lying though.
 
2013-09-18 02:20:16 PM

MyRandomName: ikanreed: Serious Black: hasty ambush: ikanreed: I wish there were more trustworthy charities.

"Oh you're raising money for Autism 'Awareness'?  But you're not bothering to actually explain what people need to be aware of?  Sign me up!"

You can check:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/

It gives a breakdown of how charities spend their money.

For example Planned Parenthood  and Catholic Charities USA are both highly ranked with 70%-80% of their contributions going toward their programs and 20%-30% going toward admin, salaries , fund raising etc.

Federal government social welfare programs are normally the reverse (30% programs 70% admin) because of the costs of the large bureaucracies, regulations, one size fits all nature of the programs and high priced government employees  (instead of a lot of volunteers or part timers)

  Nice thing about private charities is you can pick the charities you want to give to-government does not give you that option.  Government is like charity at bayonet point.

Worst. Lie. Ever.

[www.cbpp.org image 450x573]

Yeah, 70% overhead sounded extreme, like a made up number.  Thanks for getting actual data.

Conservatism: lying for no particular reason to protect "charities"

Heh. His chart is a lie too. It ignores full costs. For example, Medicare has revenue collection largely handled by the IRS and companies through taxation. Private companies don't get to hand off that cost to a separate government agency. Same with enforcement through other branches. I'm sure you will be just as outraged by the liberal lying though.


I know!  It's pretty awesome that using existing bureaucracies provides a tangible advantage.  Thanks for pointing that out!
 
2013-09-18 02:23:22 PM
It almost sound as if this is what they are saying:
The average amount donated by young millionaires is larger than the median amount given by the average boomer.
 
2013-09-18 02:25:41 PM

ikanreed: oldfarthenry: Daeva: oldfarthenry: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 500x346]
`F**kin' boomers are a vacuous disconnected generation who just don't gel with the rest of society!' *click-send*
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so your saying the process of instantly access EVERYONE IN SOCIETY IN AN INSTANT on a phone is somehow more disconnected?

No. I'm saying that if you're in the physical presence of someone you should put your phone down and converse with them "face to face" as it were - or does that clash with your high-functioning autism?

Caveman say fire bad!  Dumb kids use fire to cook!  Caveman know that fire bad, because fire hurt.  Dumb kids are dumb!


pretty much saved me the effort.
 
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