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2013-09-18 09:35:08 AM
Did Jesse tell the gang about the DVD?

Yes.  He told Todd.

Will they head to the White residence to destroy any copies, as well as anybody who stands in their way?

Yes.  But I have a new guess about this.  Either Holly won't be there, because she is in state custody.  Or she will be there, and the Nazis will take her, not kill her.  Then, either Walt is coming back to save Holly (after seeing the slaughter on the TV news, including the fact that a baby is missing), or somehow Jesse kills all the Nazis and ends up with Holly.

Not sure it makes sense that Walt is coming back for Holly, since clearly a lot of time elapses.  And I don't know how Jesse kills the Nazis.  But that is my #1 my sure-to-be-wrong prediction for the week.

My second prediction is that the Nazis do come and slaughter the family, and do get the DVD of Jesse's confession.  But they leave behind Walt's "confession", which Marie demanded Skylar hand over.  Thus, law enforcement that comes to clean up the slaughter is left with the impression that Hank was the driving force behind the operation and Walt was just a pawn.  Not sure how that fits in with Walt coming back with a giant gun and ricin either.  Or how it would square with the telephone call the cops were listening in on.  But that is my #2 my sure-to-be-wrong prediction for the week.
 
2013-09-18 09:41:38 AM
is mike definitely dead?
 
2013-09-18 09:41:42 AM
Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.
 
2013-09-18 10:14:06 AM

sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.


The only use I can think of for the ricin is to ruin a batch of the meth, presumably in a bid to lure the Nazis into a trap.
 
2013-09-18 10:16:10 AM
At the start of this season we saw a disheveled Walt buy an AR-15 on his 52nd birthday.

Oh FFS it was an M60 and I don't know shiat about guns
 
2013-09-18 10:30:35 AM

sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.


Todd knew the recipe and Walt didn't care.
 
2013-09-18 10:33:33 AM
God, I can't wait til this is over.
 
2013-09-18 10:43:02 AM
There's a climactic gun fight with the Nazis and Walt and Jesse and Todd and Lydia and everyone else and bullets are flying and one by one everyone is shot and Walt is cradling Skylar's bullet-riddled body in his arms as his son stands over them both firing pistols with both hands and he goes down, spewing blood in slow motion, and Walt looks up and closes his eyes...the screen goes black...it's sort of like the Sopranos ending...and then slowly light fades back in again, and we see that we're in a room, a bright room, and we're looking at it from the perspective of someone in a chair, and slowly the camera begins to turn, turn, rotate so that we can look at ourselves, and we see it's Walt, he's sitting in the chemo armchair, he's getting his treatment, he looks like he did in the first season, and he blinks and yawns and we realize that he's fallen asleep and it's all been nothing but a dream.

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2013-09-18 10:47:50 AM
Does anyone find it strange the Nazi's let Walt go, even though they have $70M of his money that he earned?  Do they not fear he might come back for his money?  Do they not think he is willing and capable of killing them as necessary to get his money?  Considering the lengths Walt has gone to to earn that money, they think he is just going to let them have it?
 
2013-09-18 10:55:34 AM

SlothB77: Does anyone find it strange the Nazi's let Walt go, even though they have $70M of his money that he earned?  Do they not fear he might come back for his money?  Do they not think he is willing and capable of killing them as necessary to get his money?  Considering the lengths Walt has gone to to earn that money, they think he is just going to let them have it?


I don't find it strange. They don't know about Gus or Mike, iirc, and he's had to hire them for his dirty work in the past. They probably think he's just the cook.
 
2013-09-18 10:57:58 AM

sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.


We heard Saul talking to Walt during the closing credits of the last episode. Saul was saying something like "they're looking for you and if you're not around, they're gonna go after your family." So, I think the Neonazis need him to come back for their own reasons.
 
2013-09-18 10:59:29 AM
Everyone is going to hug out their differences and laugh about it over pie and coffee in the series finalie.
 
2013-09-18 11:00:57 AM

cameroncrazy1984: God, I can't wait til this is over.


I know, right?  Then people will stop twisting your arm, forcing you to post in threads about topics you care nothing about.
 
2013-09-18 11:02:14 AM

SlothB77: Does anyone find it strange the Nazi's let Walt go, even though they have $70M of his money that he earned?  Do they not fear he might come back for his money?  Do they not think he is willing and capable of killing them as necessary to get his money?  Considering the lengths Walt has gone to to earn that money, they think he is just going to let them have it?


Todd has an appreciation and respect for Mr White, he even teared a little when Hank was killed. Because of that respect as Jack put it "This didn't go down the other way" as in he was going to kill everyone there for the money until then. Hank even warned him "You're too stupid to realize he made up his mind ten minutes ago"

Hell which when you come to think of it, Hank realized that had Walt kept his god damn mouth shut he could have kept his money and his family.
 
2013-09-18 11:02:25 AM

21-7-b: is mike definitely dead?


I'm still not sure Gale is dead, 'cuz it really did look like Jessie pointed the gun away before firing.
 
2013-09-18 11:02:48 AM
FFA:
At the start of this season we saw a disheveled Walt buy an


Aaand there's where I stopped reading.  If you don't even know the difference between an AR-15 and and M60, then you don't know shiat about shiat.

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2013-09-18 11:02:53 AM

enry: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

Todd knew the recipe and Walt didn't care.


But he also knows that even though Todd knows the recipe, he can't make it as well as he and Jesse could. It's not as pure and doesn't have the blue color. That's why they asked him to come back for "one more cook."

If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.
 
2013-09-18 11:05:54 AM

sigdiamond2000: If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.


It's possible he may come back out of some sick twisted sense of ego that if I can't have my family, or my money I'm going to burn my legacy to the ground because that meth recipe is mine and mine alone.
 
2013-09-18 11:06:17 AM
err, is it me or isn't the dvd Jesse talked about to Todd the one he recorded for Gomie and Hank?

How could he know about the one Walter made for Hank and Marie?

Thus, why go to the White's place to destroy any copy since the dvd and its copies are either at the house where Hank kept Jesse or, perhaps, at the DEA headquarters already?
 
2013-09-18 11:06:34 AM
The Ghosts of Jane, Mike, and Gus visit Walt over the course of a single evening and show him the error of his ways. Walt returns to Albuquerque, and has Saul buy the largest Christmas burrito in the shop window and deliver it to Andrea and Brock. Walt attends Todd's party, much to Lydia's amazement. As the years go by, Walt holds true to his promise and honors Christmas with all his heart: he treats Jesse as if he were his own child, provides lavish gifts for the poor, and treats his fellow human beings with kindness, generosity, and warmth.
 
2013-09-18 11:06:37 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Will they head to the White residence to destroy any copies, as well as anybody who stands in their way?

Yes.  But I have a new guess about this.  Either Holly won't be there, because she is in state custody.  Or she will be there, and the Nazis will take her, not kill her.  Then, either Walt is coming back to save Holly (after seeing the slaughter on the TV news, including the fact that a baby is missing), or somehow Jesse kills all the Nazis and ends up with Holly.


If we're talking about Jesse's taped confession, it would be at Hank's house, not the White's.  The only thing at the White's house would be Walt's fake confession, which really doesn't mean anything to the Nazis.

That being said, I'm sure the White family is now living with Marie, and the White house is cleared out (and taped off) as part of the police investigation into Walt.
 
2013-09-18 11:07:05 AM

gunga galunga: 21-7-b: is mike definitely dead?

I'm still not sure Gale is dead, 'cuz it really did look like Jessie pointed the gun away before firing.


Oh man, I forgot about that one.  I gotta add it to my list of dumb BB theories.

Anyone remember who came up with that?
 
2013-09-18 11:09:21 AM

Aristocles: We heard Saul talking to Walt during the closing credits of the last episode. Saul was saying something like "they're looking for you and if you're not around, they're gonna go after your family." So, I think the Neonazis need him to come back for their own reasons.


Saul's phone call in that trailer is obviously edited.  We don't know it is actually one call.  It could be something along the lines of:

Saul (to Walt): You're worried about your wife and children. (Not heard) Well, they're dead!  You're on your own now!

Different conversation with Pinkman (after he escapes slavery) Saul (to Pinkman): If they don't have you, they're going after her (meaning Andrea).
Pinkman: Noooooooooooooooo!

I'm not saying this is the case, but I think they have purposefully misdirected with their previews, like when Jr. said something along the lines of "Stop lying!" to Walt in a preview.  It made it sound like Jr. new about the meth, but it turned out he only thought Walt passed out because of his cancer.
 
2013-09-18 11:10:42 AM
I just hope Walt lives. I feel so badly that all this crap has happened to him. Why don't they just leave him alone?
 
2013-09-18 11:10:49 AM
Why is everyone assuming Walt goes to NH just because he has a NH ID?

I'm guessing he's never more than an hour from ABQ.
 
2013-09-18 11:11:07 AM

Aristocles: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

We heard Saul talking to Walt during the closing credits of the last episode. Saul was saying something like "they're looking for you and if you're not around, they're gonna go after your family." So, I think the Neonazis need him to come back for their own reasons.


Or he could be talking about the DEA. DEA goes to talk to Marie about missing Hank. She says Walt killed him but doesn't have any proof. Walt is missing and the DEA can't find him so they start talking to his family. The Neo Nazi's see the DEA talking to Walt's family and are worried they know enough to get them arrest so they kill his wife and kids which makes national news and the story of Heisenberg chem teacher turned meth kingpin comes out.
 
2013-09-18 11:13:07 AM

NASAM: Why is everyone assuming Walt goes to NH just because he has a NH ID?

I'm guessing he's never more than an hour from ABQ.


Because he has a NH ID and the episode is titled 'Granite State'.
 
2013-09-18 11:14:16 AM
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2013-09-18 11:15:28 AM
I don't think he's coming back to save Jesse. I don't see what would change for him to have such a turn around. I think it's more likely he's coming back to stop the Nazi's and "win" in a revenge bid over Hank because his ego won't allow him to lose. I think he still wants Jesse dead cause he blames him for Hank's death and the loss of his family (even though that's deluded). BUT I do think it's possible something will happen where tables will turn and Jesse somehow helps Walt over the course of Walt's revenge against the Nazi's, leaving things unclear as to how things will resolve between the two. I think Jesse deserves to get to kill Walt. There's just no way this show can end with Walt still alive.
 
2013-09-18 11:17:23 AM

show me: I just hope Walt lives. I feel so badly that all this crap has happened to him. Why don't they just leave him alone?


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2013-09-18 11:18:48 AM

NeoCortex42: If we're talking about Jesse's taped confession, it would be at Hank's house, not the White's. The only thing at the White's house would be Walt's fake confession, which really doesn't mean anything to the Nazis.


The article says White residence, I meant Hank's house.

Carth: Because he has a NH ID and the episode is titled 'Granite State'.


I think  he also had a NH license plate, though that could be easily obtained I'm sure.  And the title could simply be a reference to the Live Free or Die motto of the state.  So it's possible he's not far away, though I do think he goes to NH.
 
2013-09-18 11:20:07 AM
Keep in mind that the time when he comes back is something like at least six months from now, or longer.  That would be a long time of stuff happening for him to suddenly come back to save his family or Jesse.  If any of them is the reason for his return, I would think the danger to them would be much more immediate than that timeframe.

I'm still leaning towards the idea that he goes on a rampage at Grey Matter.
 
2013-09-18 11:20:20 AM

Carth: NASAM: Why is everyone assuming Walt goes to NH just because he has a NH ID?

I'm guessing he's never more than an hour from ABQ.

Because he has a NH ID and the episode is titled 'Granite State'.


And the car he's driving has a NH license plate.
 
2013-09-18 11:22:23 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: sigdiamond2000: If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.

It's possible he may come back out of some sick twisted sense of ego that if I can't have my family, or my money I'm going to burn my legacy to the ground because that meth recipe is mine and mine alone.


Yeah, I think that's the idea. He won't be able to tolerate someone taking his ideas (see Grey Matter) and making millions off of them.
 
2013-09-18 11:22:41 AM
So...... I had been watching every single episode with a pal, but he's been AWOL the last 5 weeks. I broke down and marathoned the last 5 epis..... HOLY farkING shiat.


I know no one asked my opinion, so I will give it anyway. I love how no matter what evil Walt does the writers always throw a little bone to make Walt somewhat likable. You just have to forget all the evil he has done.
 
2013-09-18 11:23:32 AM
NeoCortex42:

I'm still leaning towards the idea that he goes on a rampage at Grey Matter.


God I hope not.  That would be stupid and the worst ending ever. It would completely ruin an otherwise perfect show.
 
2013-09-18 11:23:55 AM

Aristocles: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

We heard Saul talking to Walt during the closing credits of the last episode. Saul was saying something like "they're looking for you and if you're not around, they're gonna go after your family." So, I think the Neonazis need him to come back for their own reasons.


I think Saul's referring to the DEA/law enforcement there. Hence him stressing that two agents are missing and presumed dead. I doubt Saul would mince words if he was talking about the neo nazis.
 
2013-09-18 11:24:06 AM

sigdiamond2000: enry: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

Todd knew the recipe and Walt didn't care.

But he also knows that even though Todd knows the recipe, he can't make it as well as he and Jesse could. It's not as pure and doesn't have the blue color. That's why they asked him to come back for "one more cook."

If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.


I thought Todd wasn't involved in the cook at first. And then the uncle said they'd add blue food coloring to fix the color so long as the purity was ok.

And why would Walt get a fake ID with his real birthday on it?
 
2013-09-18 11:26:50 AM

Into the blue again: I know no one asked my opinion, so I will give it anyway. I love how no matter what evil Walt does the writers always throw a little bone to make Walt somewhat likable. You just have to forget all the evil he has done.


I disagree, the domestic abuse scene and child snatching have pretty much done most everyone I know in. He lost me when he decided to poison a child, that was the point where I knew for a damn fact he was as Jesse describes him, The Devil.

Although I started thinking about it. How much of Walt is a product of his environment vs his character. I mean lets say Walt had stayed with Grey Matter, would his ego force him to throw colleagues under the bus, discredit other chemists, even sabotage someone else s work in order to maintain his status there and his rise in fame?

Basically what Im asking, is that has Walt always been an evil egotistical son of a biatch and we're just seeing the product of this resultant set consequences only because of the environment it's been thrust into?

And in that respect, how many of us at some point in our lives broke bad?
 
2013-09-18 11:27:03 AM

enry: sigdiamond2000: enry: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

Todd knew the recipe and Walt didn't care.

But he also knows that even though Todd knows the recipe, he can't make it as well as he and Jesse could. It's not as pure and doesn't have the blue color. That's why they asked him to come back for "one more cook."

If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.

I thought Todd wasn't involved in the cook at first. And then the uncle said they'd add blue food coloring to fix the color so long as the purity was ok.

And why would Walt get a fake ID with his real birthday on it?


Birthdays are shared among so many people it isn't distinguishing information. Having your real birthday makes it automatic when someone asked for your DOB so you don't give you real birthday instead of the fake one or have a pause while you think about it.
 
2013-09-18 11:28:02 AM

enry: sigdiamond2000: enry: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

Todd knew the recipe and Walt didn't care.

But he also knows that even though Todd knows the recipe, he can't make it as well as he and Jesse could. It's not as pure and doesn't have the blue color. That's why they asked him to come back for "one more cook."

If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.

I thought Todd wasn't involved in the cook at first. And then the uncle said they'd add blue food coloring to fix the color so long as the purity was ok.

And why would Walt get a fake ID with his real birthday on it?


So he doesn't have to worry about the "what's your birthday" trick bouncers always pull with underage kids with fake IDs.
 
2013-09-18 11:28:23 AM

SlothB77: Does anyone find it strange the Nazi's let Walt go, even though they have $70M of his money that he earned?  Do they not fear he might come back for his money?  Do they not think he is willing and capable of killing them as necessary to get his money?  Considering the lengths Walt has gone to to earn that money, they think he is just going to let them have it?


It made absolutely now sense whatsoever to let Walt live AND give him ~$9M.  As you say, Walt would be an threat and a witness to them killing 2 federal agents.  Once they had found the money in the ground, they should have put a bullet in Walt's head.

Also, made no sense at all to let Jesse live. Why exactly to the Nazis need to cook anything ever again with $70M?   Jesse was already working with the feds.  Once he's interrogated, he should have gotten a bullet as well.
 
2013-09-18 11:30:25 AM

physt: Also, made no sense at all to let Jesse live. Why exactly to the Nazis need to cook anything ever again with $70M? Jesse was already working with the feds. Once he's interrogated, he should have gotten a bullet as well.


Jack has a profound respect for his nephew Todd that's why and Jack has a little bit of that honor among thieves going.

sigdiamond2000: Yeah, I think that's the idea. He won't be able to tolerate someone taking his ideas (see Grey Matter) and making millions off of them.


And using his pupil who they said they would kill to do it with

"PINKMAN....you still owe me"
 
2013-09-18 11:31:29 AM
Given the parallels they've drawn with Walter and Gus so far (even in terms of the shot composition, not just plot), I wouldn't be surprised if the nazis are in for what the cartel got, only this time with ricin.  Although, with the ricin thing being held over our heads for so long I wonder if it isn't a red herring..
 
2013-09-18 11:31:48 AM

gunga galunga: 21-7-b: is mike definitely dead?

I'm still not sure Gale is dead, 'cuz it really did look like Jessie pointed the gun away before firing.

Didn't Hank have a folder with a picture of dead Gale?
 
2013-09-18 11:33:10 AM

Carth: enry: sigdiamond2000: enry: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

Todd knew the recipe and Walt didn't care.

But he also knows that even though Todd knows the recipe, he can't make it as well as he and Jesse could. It's not as pure and doesn't have the blue color. That's why they asked him to come back for "one more cook."

If Walt somehow finds out blue meth is back on the streets, he'll know Jesse is still alive and cooking for the white supremacists.

I thought Todd wasn't involved in the cook at first. And then the uncle said they'd add blue food coloring to fix the color so long as the purity was ok.

And why would Walt get a fake ID with his real birthday on it?

Birthdays are shared among so many people it isn't distinguishing information. Having your real birthday makes it automatic when someone asked for your DOB so you don't give you real birthday instead of the fake one or have a pause while you think about it.


True, but he's most likely getting a new identity, not just a fake ID.  That means Vacuum Cleaner Guy set him up with someone's real info.

Either that, or he's good enough to completely make someone up out of thin air and put them into the system.   The former seems more likely.
 
2013-09-18 11:33:43 AM

YoungLochinvar: Aristocles: sigdiamond2000: Best one I've heard so far (certainly not the most likely), is that Walt somehow finds evidence of the blue meth being peddled in New Hampshire, realizes Jesse must be alive and cooking for Todd and Uncle Jack, and goes back to ABQ to burn everything down.

We heard Saul talking to Walt during the closing credits of the last episode. Saul was saying something like "they're looking for you and if you're not around, they're gonna go after your family." So, I think the Neonazis need him to come back for their own reasons.

I think Saul's referring to the DEA/law enforcement there. Hence him stressing that two agents are missing and presumed dead. I doubt Saul would mince words if he was talking about the neo nazis.


But the DEA/law would only be going after Skylar, I'm pretty sure Saul said something like "they're gonna go after your family" ... I'll have to listen to it again.

Of course, as one Farker above mentioned, the phone calls are probably edited to lead viewers to think one thing only to have something completely different go down.
 
2013-09-18 11:33:56 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Basically what Im asking, is that has Walt always been an evil egotistical son of a biatch and we're just seeing the product of this resultant set consequences only because of the environment it's been thrust into?


One of the things I haven't seen anyone talk about much is that, all in all, even before sh*t got crazy, Walt was kind of a dick. He pretty obviously hated his students and thought Jesse in particular was a worthless human being.

He was portrayed early in the series as that kind of HS teacher I'm sure everyone had at least once, that grouchy asshole who was angry that life didn't fully reward him for "his genius."
 
2013-09-18 11:33:58 AM

sigdiamond2000: Carth: NASAM: Why is everyone assuming Walt goes to NH just because he has a NH ID?

I'm guessing he's never more than an hour from ABQ.

Because he has a NH ID and the episode is titled 'Granite State'.

And the car he's driving has a NH license plate.


Still doesn't mean he actually goes to NH.

I still say he's hiding out someplace closer to home.
 
2013-09-18 11:34:44 AM
I think maybe Marie gets the DVD's (she asked for every copy), the Nazi's find out and go for her. Then something creepy happens along the lines of how they've given the ol' creep-stare to every woman they've seen.
 
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