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2013-09-18 09:07:44 AM  
No shiat. God is behind the flooding; those who engaged in the cloud seeding that caused the flooding were merely agents of His will.
 
2013-09-18 09:13:35 AM  
You say climate change, I say cloud seeding..  Either way, the people that Obama is supposed to be leading are to blame!
 
2013-09-18 09:28:37 AM  
If cloud seeding wasn't effective, ski resorts wouldn't spend the limited money they have seeding clouds to increase their snowfall totals during the winter.

I doubt colorado ski resorts are doing that this early in the season, though.
 
2013-09-18 09:30:20 AM  
Cloud seeding is nothing new. Water districts across the West have long been attempting to increase their yields, and Vail has been at for more than 30 years. A recent study of Vail's efforts suggest that cloud seeding has consistently increased snowfall by about 15 percent. That research encouraged the Summit County areas to get into the game this season, and also is part of Colorado's wider efforts to increase snowfall regionally.
 
2013-09-18 10:04:53 AM  
I know this one lady is %100 convinced chem trails are real, its really sad.
 
2013-09-18 10:07:00 AM  
the internet-based theory

Is that what we're calling the uninformed ramblings of some guy on internet?
 
2013-09-18 10:09:09 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No shiat. God is behind the flooding; those who engaged in the cloud seeding that caused the flooding were merely agents of His will.


Don't blame god.  It's obviously an Obama adminstration, secret muslem, false flag operation.
 
2013-09-18 10:10:55 AM  
That's what the zeppelin pilots want you to think....
 
2013-09-18 10:14:12 AM  
Hey lets try to alter the weather to benefit our specific region of the country, it's not like it's going to affect any other regions of the country.

We've had weather modification programs going since at least the mid 80s.  It's amazing how many people don't realize that, or that there are businesses that literally seed clouds.  Guess people don't look up very often.
 
2013-09-18 10:14:41 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: I know this one lady is %100 convinced chem trails are real, its really sad.


You know cloud seeding IS real, right?  I am not sold on 'chem' trails, but cloud seeding is a very well established thing.  Just making sure you knew that since it seems you are talking about something other than what this thread is about.

Oh, and various gov'ts of the world have spent a LOT of money in both weather modification and other research activities which might explain "chem" trails so it is not as crazy as you would like to believe.  Again, I am not sold on the "chem" trail theory but I have seen plenty of evidence of past military experiments that involve dispersing things in very high altitudes so it could be possible.  I just have never heard of a theory to that regard that justifies the scale and cost that many people claim is going on but that is not to say it cannot happen.
 
2013-09-18 10:16:57 AM  

SlothB77: If cloud seeding wasn't effective, ski resorts wouldn't spend the limited money they have seeding clouds to increase their snowfall totals during the winter.


Nobody is saying it's not effective.

Dummies are saying it's effective enough to cause the massive rains that hit Colorado.
 
2013-09-18 10:19:10 AM  
I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos
 
2013-09-18 10:24:09 AM  

santadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos


Noooo, not the liquor store.

/has been to said liquor store
 
2013-09-18 10:27:36 AM  

CrazyCracka420: Hey lets try to alter the weather to benefit our specific region of the country, it's not like it's going to affect any other regions of the country.

We've had weather modification programs going since at least the mid 80s.  It's amazing how many people don't realize that, or that there are businesses that literally seed clouds.  Guess people don't look up very often.


Some of the first experiments were in the 1950's and 60's.  Progress was made in the 70's and that is when many other countries got into the biz.  That is when the US and Canada made an agreement (1975) to share data about weather modification.  In 1977 a UN convention established a "Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques."

In 2005 and 2007 US congress entertained but did not pass two bills to expand weather modification and to establish a formal entity in the government to oversee such activities.  As it is now, NOAA keeps records of weather modification projects on behalf of the Secretary of Commerce per a 1971 law.

China used many different techniques during the 2008 Beijing Olympics in an attempt to prevent rain from falling during the games.
 
2013-09-18 10:28:06 AM  
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santadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos


Visited Estes Park and RMNP a couple years ago, very beautiful area, I hope it can be rebuilt, I'd love to visit the area again.
 
2013-09-18 10:33:17 AM  

Rapmaster2000: the internet-based theory

Is that what we're calling the uninformed ramblings of some guy on internet?


It used to be soapboxes on the corner, flyers on telephone poles, and pamphlets in the bus station.  Now, with the Internet, the same loonies can access a much larger audience and people act like their ramblings are something new.

The Internet didn't create the message; it just changed the exposure.
 
2013-09-18 10:34:24 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: I know this one lady is %100 convinced chem trails are real, its really sad.


Is it this lady?
=Smidge=
 
2013-09-18 10:39:33 AM  
In New Mexico we get rains every summer, we call it the monsoon. The same system has been hitting Colorado this year. I imagine it does every year. But I suppose it's easier to learn your science from the man in the foil hat.
 
2013-09-18 10:41:42 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: I know this one lady is %100 convinced chem trails are real, its really sad.


My dad's friend looked up once at a jet contrail and said, "Oh, look, they're spraying again."

Dad, just looked at him and decided not to continue the conversation.
 
2013-09-18 10:43:52 AM  
Everyone knows this was caused by airplane contrails. They put cloud seeding spray in instead of the usual mind altering drugs. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! We are through the looking glass!
 
2013-09-18 10:44:24 AM  
I would also like to note that there is no sex in the champagne room.

none.
 
2013-09-18 10:44:35 AM  
www.travelingwithmj.com

The real weather making machine has been here all along.....
 
2013-09-18 10:46:39 AM  
SHEEPLE!
 
2013-09-18 10:48:55 AM  
I don't care what caused it, what I do care about is I'm getting $1000 a week, cash, to clean up after it.
Silver lining, indeed.
 
2013-09-18 10:51:02 AM  
The system sounds similar to the one that caused flooding in southern Alberta This spring actually
 
2013-09-18 10:54:27 AM  
Is someone saying Charles Hatfield is still alive?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hatfield
 
2013-09-18 10:59:58 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No shiat. God is behind the flooding; those who engaged in the cloud seeding that caused the flooding were merely agents of His will.


Would have been nice if he would have sent his agents and rain during the forest fires
 
2013-09-18 11:18:45 AM  
Conspiracy nuts are all like "HAARP?"

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-09-18 11:20:03 AM  
False flag.
 
2013-09-18 11:22:40 AM  
Upslope weather pattern

Older residents of Colorado understand this. Older, as in lived in Colorado for more than two years.
 
2013-09-18 11:23:22 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: I know this one lady is %100 convinced chem trails are real, its really sad.


They are.  But if you stand in your back yard with a spray bottle of vinegar aiming upward at Obama's nefarious plot to control the sheeples' minds, the chemtrails will dissipate and you will have a delicious patchy brown lawn.

RON PAUL!
 
2013-09-18 11:25:48 AM  

Godscrack: [www.travelingwithmj.com image 600x465]

The real weather making machine has been here all along.....


I thought that took you to the River Tethys?
 
2013-09-18 11:33:06 AM  
Is this where I rant about libs wasting money on cloud seeding while having a perfectly good HAARP array to screw with the weather? Or am I getting my conspiracy theories screwed up again?
 
2013-09-18 11:37:48 AM  

santadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos


NOT THE LIQUOR STORE!!!11!!

lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-09-18 11:43:17 AM  

blatz514: santadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos

NOT THE LIQUOR STORE!!!11!!


You know who else likes flooding at the liquor store?
 
2013-09-18 11:52:53 AM  

Zenith: Godscrack: [www.travelingwithmj.com image 600x465]

The real weather making machine has been here all along.....

I thought that took you to the River Tethys?


investorplace.com

This one does.
 
2013-09-18 11:54:04 AM  

spunkymunky: blatz514: santadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos

NOT THE LIQUOR STORE!!!11!!

You know who else likes flooding at the liquor store?


The liquor store on higher ground?
 
2013-09-18 12:00:16 PM  
Clearly God's Wrath for the recent recall elections.
 
2013-09-18 12:05:27 PM  

r1niceboy: In New Mexico we get rains every summer, we call it the monsoon. The same system has been hitting Colorado this year. I imagine it does every year. But I suppose it's easier to learn your science from the man in the foil hat.


We get the same monsoons. This was not the same thing. It was like living in Seattle for two weeks, with occasional bouts of tropical storm type weather.
 
2013-09-18 12:11:59 PM  

dirkfunk: r1niceboy: In New Mexico we get rains every summer, we call it the monsoon. The same system has been hitting Colorado this year. I imagine it does every year. But I suppose it's easier to learn your science from the man in the foil hat.

We get the same monsoons. This was not the same thing. It was like living in Seattle for two weeks, with occasional bouts of tropical storm type weather.


We got flooding too, but we're too poor to tell anyone about it.
 
2013-09-18 12:23:45 PM  

theFword: I lsantadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos

Visited Estes Park and RMNP a couple years ago, very beautiful area, I hope it can be rebuilt, I'd love to visit the area again.


It will be fine by spring... it is just a bit of a hurdle between now and then, nothing that we cant handle.
 
2013-09-18 12:28:39 PM  

Dman33: reggaejunkiejew: I know this one lady is %100 convinced chem trails are real, its really sad.

You know cloud seeding IS real, right?  I am not sold on 'chem' trails, but cloud seeding is a very well established thing.  Just making sure you knew that since it seems you are talking about something other than what this thread is about.

Oh, and various gov'ts of the world have spent a LOT of money in both weather modification and other research activities which might explain "chem" trails so it is not as crazy as you would like to believe.  Again, I am not sold on the "chem" trail theory but I have seen plenty of evidence of past military experiments that involve dispersing things in very high altitudes so it could be possible.  I just have never heard of a theory to that regard that justifies the scale and cost that many people claim is going on but that is not to say it cannot happen.


Not just gov'ts.... here in WP, and elsewhere in CO, resorts spend a ton of money on cloud seeding to help get every bit of snow out of a cloud that they can get... it isn't that cloud seeding is a joke, it's that people who don't understand how the whole weather pattern, including wind direction and subsequent topographic lifting are just picking the dumbest conspiracy theory they can find and going with it.
 
2013-09-18 12:39:17 PM  

r1niceboy: dirkfunk: r1niceboy: In New Mexico we get rains every summer, we call it the monsoon. The same system has been hitting Colorado this year. I imagine it does every year. But I suppose it's easier to learn your science from the man in the foil hat.

We get the same monsoons. This was not the same thing. It was like living in Seattle for two weeks, with occasional bouts of tropical storm type weather.

We got flooding too, but we're too poor to tell anyone about it.


Also, CO has about 5.2 million people, we barely have over 2 million, a lot of our rain fell in un- or very sparsely populated areas.

/surprised Rio Rancho didn't wash away completely
//whole town's built on a giant farking sand dune
///with really shiatty flood control
 
2013-09-18 01:38:52 PM  

santadog: I'll tell you what caused it. 3 weeks of rain every day for hours in stead of minute like normal, and then a solid 4 days of rain all day. Those big ass dark clouds just hung stalled over Rocky Mountain National Park just dumping on the peaks. The Mountain Lakes I hike to regularly were full a week before the flood even happened. It was insane when the flood hit. I've never personally gone thru a Natural Disaster of this magnitude before. It was exciting, jaw dropping, heartbreaking to photograph, not to mention the uncertainty of what was going to happen next and where.

My Estes Park Flood Photos


Only 3 weeks? Here in ANF, it feels like we've had steady afternoon rain for months now... I'm optimistic that it means 600+ inches of snow this year because our precipitation amounts have been so ridiculous. There are massive waterfalls on Berthoud and James Peak that I've never seen before (and some rockslides subsequent to that).

Also, best of luck to ya, if you ever a place to crash up in Fraser/WP, just drop a line.
 
2013-09-18 01:53:09 PM  

firefly212: I'm optimistic that it means 600+ inches of snow this year because our precipitation amounts have been so ridiculous.


I hope you're right. Last couple of years have been meh to this sucks (at least until the big dumps in April).  We've done ok in the Indian Peaks, but around the state, not as well of late.

Glad to see santadog posting. Been thinking about you guys up there. Stay dry.
 
2013-09-18 02:11:15 PM  

zobear: firefly212: I'm optimistic that it means 600+ inches of snow this year because our precipitation amounts have been so ridiculous.

I hope you're right. Last couple of years have been meh to this sucks (at least until the big dumps in April).  We've done ok in the Indian Peaks, but around the state, not as well of late.

Glad to see santadog posting. Been thinking about you guys up there. Stay dry.


Ah snow, hope we get it this year.
Be well out there.
 
2013-09-18 02:41:27 PM  

Frantic Freddie: r1niceboy: dirkfunk: r1niceboy: In New Mexico we get rains every summer, we call it the monsoon. The same system has been hitting Colorado this year. I imagine it does every year. But I suppose it's easier to learn your science from the man in the foil hat.

We get the same monsoons. This was not the same thing. It was like living in Seattle for two weeks, with occasional bouts of tropical storm type weather.

We got flooding too, but we're too poor to tell anyone about it.

Also, CO has about 5.2 million people, we barely have over 2 million, a lot of our rain fell in un- or very sparsely populated areas.

/surprised Rio Rancho didn't wash away completely
//whole town's built on a giant farking sand dune
///with really shiatty flood control


I saw a dead rabbit being carried down Northern by a strong surge last week. I'm surprised more of Unser wasn't undermined and washed out.
 
2013-09-18 03:03:55 PM  

dirkfunk: We get the same monsoons. This was not the same thing. It was like living in Seattle for two weeks, with occasional bouts of tropical storm type weather.


Living in Seattle, I can tell you we get on average less than an inch of rain per week, and even the winter months are only 5 inches of rain per month.  It almost never rains hard here for more than about 5 minutes once a month.  We just get drizzled to death.  You want lots of rain, go talk to Hawaii, they get 5 times as much as Seattle.

That area of Colorado got as much rain per day as Seattle gets for most of the year.  For five days in a row.
 
2013-09-18 03:44:57 PM  

CrazyCracka420: Hey lets try to alter the weather to benefit our specific region of the country, it's not like it's going to affect any other regions of the country.



They don't consider balances and that what is given to one area could be taken away from another.
 
2013-09-18 04:11:24 PM  

Tsu-na-mi: Clearly God's Wrath for the recent recall elections.


Nope. He's still pissed about gay marriage and decriminalized pot. If you keep passing these liberal laws, God is going to continue with the smackdown. It's just common sense.
 
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